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↑ Zoidberg wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:Oh hi I'm not here right now
I am but a ghost
And this shall be my post
Oh I can haiku that!
Oh hi, I'm not here
Right now: I am but a ghost
This has been my post
I'm V/LA and there's nothing to say so why don't you carry on and play on this most gorgeous Day, okay?
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Have you ever seen someone vote with dice tags before? Have you seen scum do it? Have you seen town do it?
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↑ Zoidberg wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:Have you ever seen someone vote with dice tags before?
I don't recall.
What if I told you townies do it in RVS sometimes
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I'm V/LA all the way till the 12th? Does that mean I get a DRE free pass until then? What about my post made you want to vote me? Why did you pick StD for RVS? What are your thoughts on the dice and the people calling the dice suspicious?
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Explain this post (including the vote) please.
Also I thought about massclaim but the risks are too great.
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You seem to not understand something :/
Mote later but really omg
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↑ Konowa wrote:↑ Zoidberg wrote:So I hate RVS and thought I would instigate things to get the game rolling. I wanted to wagon Natirasha mostly for info, not because I find her particularly scummy, but mostly for info. I don't mind if that makes me look hella scummy and accrue a lot of votes if we get some decent info out of it. Notice how my wagon stalled? It's because there are scum on it. Probably 2, but at least one, guaranteed. They can't push the mislynch too hard or fast for fear of sticking their necks out.
This is really bothering me.
Oh, I know why! Maybe because it doesn't mention StD and the dice at all? Or maybe the fact that RVS was already over by the time he voted Nati? Or possibly it has to do with him saying he voted for info without telling us what this info is?
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↑ Zoidberg wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wolfy
(I get back home tonight)
(so then I can lurk from the comfort of my own bedroom)
Still waiting for that scolding.
Why aren't you voting MadCitrus?
I already said I was delaying the scolding (and was somewhat surprised you didn't comment on the delay).
I haven't looked too deep into him yet but so far nothing has struck me as scummy. I'll definitely go over the third party shenanigans, and I'll probably wait for him to deliver his conftown gamesolving before I pass my eternal D1 judgement.
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↑ Wolfy wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wolfy
(I get back home tonight)
(so then I can lurk from the comfort of my own bedroom)
OMGUS
shit how'd you figure out that MadCitrus is my alt
Now I'll get modkilled
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↑ MadCitrus wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:If you're going to claim or whatever, then please just do it.
Why would I claim?
I assumed that you'd be at least partially claiming during your attempt to conftown yourself. Was I wrong?
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Are you no longer afraid of a derphammer? I am. I've got stuff I want to do.
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"wtf" is the reaction your play has elicited from me so far.
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Did your reread help with anything?
I think it's interesting that his latest posting isn't factoring into your read, but I also completely see where you're coming from with his read on you.
What do you think about
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So are they townie or scummy
Also again what about my townread on you (only using stuff from before I asked, of course)?
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:
I asked you 4 times for an answer to your question. Instead of any form of acknowledgement I got dodged. Pretty sure the only questions that ultimately went unanswered were the ones to Leviathan and the one asking Wolfy if I could hug his avatar, neither of which I was really expecting an answer to. Your point seems disingenuous.
The fact that Citrus skipped addressing this is pretty telling.
I get home tonight so I can do my scolding etc. I want to see where my convo with hiplop goes but other than that, I'm pretty much almost ready for a lynch.
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Not really, but low effort bothers me in general. I'll back off for now, I guess.
I don't think the wagon was dissolving at all.
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↑ SleepyKrew wrote:Also again what about my townread on you (only using stuff from before I asked, of course)?
hiplop have you even acknowledged that I'm asking you this?
Also lol what makes you say I'm great (I'm not)?
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WALL OF SHAME*
@ika
Please do more than a dumb reaction test.
@leviathan
Please try to contribute instead of doing... whatever you're doing.
@Citrus
I actually don't want to waste time/effort/words shaming you because you'll be dead soon.
@Maestro
Please contribute. Though you haven't really been active lurking like other people, so you probably get the least SHAME. I just want more from you.
@Natirasha
You already know that I want you to contribute.
@Wolfy
You are pretty much doing the same as Natirasha please stop.
@Zoidberg
stop being scum
@ZZZX
THIS IS THE BIG ONE
First off I asked you a bunch of questions and you avoided most of them so I pointed out you avoided them and you were like "lol what questions"
They aren't hiding.
Okay but really
That thing you said you do with intentionally being scummy
Fucking stop. Right now. That is nerfing your play in games to help you in other ones. That's literally against site rules.
Your logic for tanking as town is also bad in a different way, but I'm not going to point you in the 'right' direction because it's still wrong.
This was shorter than I thought. Which I guess is a good thing? Anyway * there will be more game-relevant content stuff in my next post.
@ika
Please do more than a dumb reaction test.
@leviathan
Please try to contribute instead of doing... whatever you're doing.
@Citrus
I actually don't want to waste time/effort/words shaming you because you'll be dead soon.
@Maestro
Please contribute. Though you haven't really been active lurking like other people, so you probably get the least SHAME. I just want more from you.
@Natirasha
You already know that I want you to contribute.
@Wolfy
You are pretty much doing the same as Natirasha please stop.
@Zoidberg
stop being scum
@ZZZX
THIS IS THE BIG ONE
First off I asked you a bunch of questions and you avoided most of them so I pointed out you avoided them and you were like "lol what questions"
They aren't hiding.
Okay but really
That thing you said you do with intentionally being scummy
Fucking stop. Right now. That is nerfing your play in games to help you in other ones. That's literally against site rules.
Your logic for tanking as town is also bad in a different way, but I'm not going to point you in the 'right' direction because it's still wrong.
This was shorter than I thought. Which I guess is a good thing? Anyway * there will be more game-relevant content stuff in my next post.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:All the while Wolfy, Leviathan, and SleepyKrew have given no insight as to why they're on your wagon, which gives me pause.
? I thought it was pretty clear that I was voting him because of his self-clear/IIoA. If you didn't get that, then you could've just asked me?
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:You aren't very specific in your posts. I didn't say this specifically because I needed the clarification. I said it because it seems like a lot of the people hopped on and piggybacked from the low-hanging fruit, and regardless of MadCitrus's alignment, there's likely to be scum on his wagon (though I'm townreading most of the members of the wagon. Frustrating).
So why didn't you just ask?
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hiplop stuff:
That was the third(?) time I asked.
You were suspicious of Citrus's townread on you. I wanted/still want to know your thoughts about my townread on you. When answering, please only refer to stuff that happened before the first time I asked (340).
This is just flat-out wrong and I really want to know why you're saying this.
Even if the something is a big pile of nothing?
ika stuff:
Yeah, I'd expect you to at least put up a little fight.
The townread on me confuses me because just a few days ago, I was a null that you were wary of. The change seems sudden to me.
StD thing:
Hm?
Klazam stuff:
You're gonna have to wait because I want to build some suspense!
ZZZX unnecessary stuff I really shouldn't have to do:
PEDIT: Oh I think I understand now StD. I'll come back to it if I have any more questions but none atm. So now to build some Klazam suspense.
That was the third(?) time I asked.
You were suspicious of Citrus's townread on you. I wanted/still want to know your thoughts about my townread on you. When answering, please only refer to stuff that happened before the first time I asked (340).
This is just flat-out wrong and I really want to know why you're saying this.
Even if the something is a big pile of nothing?
ika stuff:
↑ ika wrote:
What am i suppose to say? "HEY EVERYONE DONT LYNCH HIM B/C I HAVE HIM AS TOWN B/C META?"
Really thats all i have going, everyone else seems "NO HES SCUM LYNCH"
if i start yelling in caps screaming hes town will that change everyones mind? The thing with cirtus is that hes a skilled player and knows what hes doing, he sets up small traps for scums to fall into given the time. Even if he does I know a good chunk of them so i can easily bounce back on them.
Your town b/c in GS you tries to apatise everyone, here I dont see it. Do you want em to scum read you cus i can do that
Yeah, I'd expect you to at least put up a little fight.
The townread on me confuses me because just a few days ago, I was a null that you were wary of. The change seems sudden to me.
StD thing:
↑ Save The Dragons wrote:SK: that Wall of Shame is pretty damn sweet for the most part.
Hm?
Klazam stuff:
You're gonna have to wait because I want to build some suspense!
ZZZX unnecessary stuff I really shouldn't have to do:
Spoiler: This was not hard to find
PEDIT: Oh I think I understand now StD. I'll come back to it if I have any more questions but none atm. So now to build some Klazam suspense.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:Because I didn't need the clarification? I don't care why you voted MadCitrus, I'm making a point that people jumped on that wagon with little specification as to why. Scum could easily be like "yeah, that's right!" and vote MadCitrus if he's town.
errr actually
If you didn't like people jumping on without stating reasons, then why wouldn't you ask them for their reasons?
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:In regards to that particular point I'm making, I care about the event as it happened, not why everyone did what they did.
I'm not saying "SK is scum because he hopped on this wagon with no evidence!" I'm saying "looking back at this wagon there's not a whole lot of people directly confronting MadCitrus about what's going on, and 3 people just seemed to hop on without specifying exactly why. This is worrisome because at least one of these people might be scum trying to sneak onto the wagon." You certainly don't need to say nothing to do that, in fact it might be better as scum to do what you did and use the evidence already available to jump on MadCitrus. When I'm ready to look that direction I'll be more than happy to ask questions about it. I also see no reason to ask you because your intent is clearly laid out so your answer is going to be obvious (also you've already answered during the progress of this discussion).
I agree with your Wall of Shame except for a few points that are game irrelevant.
Okay NOW I think I get it.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:
Damnit Sleepykrew you beat me to the punch. Hoping to see what he was going to say before I considered voting him.
Oh well.
Vote: Klazam
shit sorry bout that
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This is different than what ika is saying. ika's stuff is straight up meta. Also:
You can't have it both ways here.
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Thanks Thesp!
Are these contradictory?
All I could find was a Tierce nom.
No this isn't irrelevant. You brought it up and I want to get to the bottom of it. What on Earth compelled you to proclaim me as "great"?
That's nice! Why are you bringing that up?
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Klazam gets his own post!
Are these contradictory?
All I could find was a Tierce nom.
No this isn't irrelevant. You brought it up and I want to get to the bottom of it. What on Earth compelled you to proclaim me as "great"?
↑ hiplop wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:Also again what about my townread on you (only using stuff from before I asked, of course)?
hiplop have you even acknowledged that I'm asking you this?
Also lol what makes you say I'm great (I'm not)?
i started the original klazam wagon
That's nice! Why are you bringing that up?
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Klazam gets his own post!
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You are saying "ika wasn't doing meta, he's saying he knows him like I know Maestro". But you are also saying "I unvoted because Citrus's third party stuff was a homesite thing". So either it was because ika knows him, or because of homesite meta. But you're saying it was both.
But you were only suspicious of him for the third party stuff? I think that's what you said. Yeah that's definitely what you said. Additionally, if he was only a single mental scum point below ZZZX, then unvoting him and voting ZZZX doesn't even make sense.
...This really didn't need it's own post, did it? These are always grander in my head.
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Doesn't lynching him now prevent him from being lynched in LYLO? And as I've been saying, you haven't really been trying to prevent his lynch.
I'll answer Klazam stuff if anyone besides Klazam wants me to.
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Idr a Colours game, I was awful in that mini normal, and Magua did most of the work in Brightest Day.
UNVOTE:
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I have my StD again <3
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Preview edit. 528 got posted in between me starting and finishing 529, so it popped up when I hit submit and I was able to change my post.
Slightly confused sorry. Are you saying that you're voting Levi for the same reason you're now pressuring Maestro (the reason being that neither has really done anything)?
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I've got something coming up! But why are you ignoring the Klazam thing and the hiplop thing?
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↑ MadCitrus wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:So Maestro not doing anything + his previous posts is enough for you to change your vote from Levi? Does that mean that your suspicions on Levi and Maestro are (approximately) equivalent?
What? Where are you getting this?
They're both the nullest but Leviathan is more null as of that post
Yay it worked. You seem to have forgotten why you were voting levi.
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levi seriously stop you're being awful
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Again, there is plurality at deadline. But we really shouldn't wait until deadline if we don't need to.
StD, in my first game, I "slipped" that I didn't know how being scum worked. Not knowing about the scum QT was part of that slip. I was scum.
Get off the fence please; it's bad for your groin.
StD, in my first game, I "slipped" that I didn't know how being scum worked. Not knowing about the scum QT was part of that slip. I was scum.
Get off the fence please; it's bad for your groin.
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And he didn't answer this. A damning crime in and of itself.
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You're okay with the contradictory reads/vote justification?
hiplop definitely has been bugging me.
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↑ SleepyKrew wrote:↑ MadCitrus wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:So Maestro not doing anything + his previous posts is enough for you to change your vote from Levi? Does that mean that your suspicions on Levi and Maestro are (approximately) equivalent?
What? Where are you getting this?
They're both the nullest but Leviathan is more null as of that post
Yay it worked. You seem to have forgotten why you were voting levi.
UNVOTE:
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levi seriously stop you're being awful
↑ SleepyKrew wrote:I can't wait till Citrus gets to 558!
↑ MadCitrus wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:I can't wait till Citrus gets to 558!
? I don't see a question?
What about calling someone null means their voting history can't be called into question? I stated an interesting vote progression from Levi. If he flips scum, it's a decent chance it shows he's unaligned with all 3 of those players.
↑ SleepyKrew wrote:Because you voted him for being scummy and now you're calling him the nullest of the null.
This series of posts should illustrate the contradicting reasons for voting levi. I'll get the other stuff in a bit.
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Well see the L-1 vote was only recently cast. You could have voted before then!
Also "we have time left" is an awful reason not to hammer. That's only useful if there's still discussion going on. I don't see any discussion. You're certainly not doing any discussion, Wolfy. A good reason not to hammer, and the reason I haven't hammered yet, is to give hiplop a chance to claim. But that's not the reason you gave.
Also "we have time left" is an awful reason not to hammer. That's only useful if there's still discussion going on. I don't see any discussion. You're certainly not doing any discussion, Wolfy. A good reason not to hammer, and the reason I haven't hammered yet, is to give hiplop a chance to claim. But that's not the reason you gave.
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