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↑ Zoidberg wrote:↑ leviathan93 wrote:you know. would people believe me if I said zoidberg was town?
Who's scum?
I lied. =P you are.
VOTE: zoidberg
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this actually seems like an incredibly scummy post.
more for the fact that i should be more appropriately put in a null position for people than scum. =/
I have not been in the thread enough for there to be a likely "scum" read on me with any valid proof other than the fact that i'm lurking intentionally for everyone to see.
to be tossed in as possible scum with no basis is more like an easy way for me to get intentionally mislynched with a scum backing.
just saying. =P
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don't what? =P make a case why y'all shouldn't lynch me? =P
not gonna happen bucko!!
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yes, and i haven't been here so i'm throwing my thoughts as well into the pile and agreeing with them. =P
therefore zoidberg now augor or whatever is now town. for the most part. and thus scum should be looked elsewhere.
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THIS post specifically just bugs me.
that and a lot of posts before that he does. just look up him individually and read his posts in order. It just sounds almost "too helpful but not" he says good advice, but it doesn't seem to be much.
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citrus could be scum, but i believe his claim and if he is lynched and he flips town I believe we should completely look at what he has to say and go back to analyze it more.
if he flips scum, i would assume he was trying to distance himself from his scum buddies but i really honestly doubt that. =P
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:I kind of feel like hiplop's first posts were made in an attempt to appear helpful. Very little, if any of hiplop's posts have made me go "Yeah! That right there! That's the stuff!"
Regarding ZZZX, in my mind it's not really much different from Nati's lack of commitment...or Wolfy's underwhelming presence...or Levi's underwhelming presence...or Konowa's disappearance...or Maestro's lack of doing anything at all...
Id like to say I was pretty present! =D I have a strong presence. people know i'm here!
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↑ Klazam wrote:Huh. I dont think its good anymore. Isoreads strip certain things of context. I thought i was seeing the flip on town/scum that hip was talking about but when i just read citrus, i don't see it anymore.. Ok... Hm. Does his earlier posting outweigh that vote? Ill think about that for now. I go to dinner then working rest of night.
Re: konowa- im talking about his earlierposts- feels p town- putting pressure where it was warranted and such. I don't know.
Std- dont you see zzzx's lack of commitment?
duh fuck is with this post? =P you are against hiplop lynch and now you just change? =P lol!!
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:↑ leviathan93 wrote:Honestly a hammer should happen. like now.
No. A claim first.
unless its a power role theres literally no point to his claim...
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↑ SleepyKrew wrote:leviathan93, how have I not heard of you before?
lol. idk. =P I just play odd games here or there. =)
been to a meet up. i prefer playing in person than online.
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↑ Klazam wrote:↑ SleepyKrew wrote:leviathan93, how have I not heard of you before?
I played with him.
He was even more useless than he was here, and he still managed to glom on scum before i did. Hes better this game.
haha! every one says i'm useless. =) its my charm!
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:Well this is an interesting mechanic. I like it. It's good to be alive, I guess
I wish I had done something different with my shot though, but hindsight, eh. I'm guessing from here on out it's just a normal game, but who knows. Maybe we get to shoot each other some more!
I picked MadCitrus. My confidence is pretty shot.
I tried to tell y'all he wasn't scum. =P
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:Cuz you are?
I tried to pick someone who I thought might get targeted by other people. Also knowing his alignment should be helpful for going back to his wagon and seeing the progression. I honestly was still on the fence about him and I took a long time deciding who to shoot but eventually I figured he would be a good choice.
ya caught me!
why would it help it if he was targeted by other people?
I had a good feeling he was town and that it almost would have been better to have him alive then dead.
though you are right. it IS good to know his alignment and will be helpful to look back. I even thought about killing him just to make sure he was town, but i felt that would have been anti-town because I was town-reading someone I wanted to shoot.
I ended up shooting konowa because I had nothing of real worth on him and he was null. seemed to want to stay out of the spot light. unlike the battle between citrus and whoever we lynched. it was town against town and scum stayed back to watch one of them die.
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well, i don't like the fact that two people shot zzzx. its totally possible to happen, but the fact that they would still be alive just weirds me out for some reason. either one may be scum.
i would see that wolfy seems suspicious, but the fact that he shot nati a mafia makes me think hes town.
I think we can all agree that there is probably only one of us left as scum.
and unless we all agree on a mass claim i'd rather not.
i would see that wolfy seems suspicious, but the fact that he shot nati a mafia makes me think hes town.
I think we can all agree that there is probably only one of us left as scum.
and unless we all agree on a mass claim i'd rather not.
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how did we still have 3 to lynch?
there are still going to be killed during then night.
theres 4 town left and 1 scum.
if we mislynch there are going to be 2 town and 1 scum left.
but fine. I'll claim.
i'm a paranoid doctor. I switch off either killing or protecting someone during the night. first night I got two kills because of the random "everyone town gets a kill". if I live to this night than I get to protect someone.
there are still going to be killed during then night.
theres 4 town left and 1 scum.
if we mislynch there are going to be 2 town and 1 scum left.
but fine. I'll claim.
i'm a paranoid doctor. I switch off either killing or protecting someone during the night. first night I got two kills because of the random "everyone town gets a kill". if I live to this night than I get to protect someone.
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because I wanted to be sure. i don't like people fooling me and at least not being a little bit aware of it.
I shot two town last night. but at least other people got scum.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:I am a vanilla townie.
I thought this was a mountainous game. Everyone who is a vanilla townie would have one more piece of information (that they themselves were also a townie) but the scum don't have this, thus they could believe there were power roles.
I believe that scum might have wanted to claim a power role.
Levi's claim is unverifiable.
There's also only one way to know this for certain.
Very suspicious of Levi right now.
how is there no way to know this for certain? =P
I'm pretty sure we DO know that.
there were 13 of us. 2 scum are dead. there are usually 3 scum in a game of 13 to keep things balanced, plus with me being able to kill AND heal it gives a helpful chance to scum if I choose wrong which I did twice night 1.
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duhh my claim is unverifiable. i killed two people and everyone else is dead. =P all of your guys' claims of who you shot is unverifiable as well. should I be suspicious of y'all too? Of course I am.
I would also like to note that there probably may have been even MORE double shootings of people shooting the same person.
I would also like to note that there probably may have been even MORE double shootings of people shooting the same person.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:Also this is bugging me:
Paranoid Doctor
Paranoid Doctor: This doctor not only protects his patient but he also roleblocks him. See also: Jailkeeper.
Was your kill compulsory?
it was not compulsory. I switch off with getting a kill and protecting someone. I have never seen this role before and i just assumed it was what the twist was and that other people had similar powers. Judging by the fact that everyone else seems to be just vanilla leaves this very weird for me.
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↑ Klazam wrote:↑ leviathan93 wrote:↑ Save The Dragons wrote:Also this is bugging me:
Paranoid Doctor
Paranoid Doctor: This doctor not only protects his patient but he also roleblocks him. See also: Jailkeeper.
Was your kill compulsory?
it was not compulsory. I switch off with getting a kill and protecting someone. I have never seen this role before and i just assumed it was what the twist was and that other people had similar powers. Judging by the fact that everyone else seems to be just vanilla leaves this very weird for me.
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well according to you, there are 2 scum left so of course they would want a no lynch.
Nope, dont twist my words. I said that 2 scum was possible too.
i'm not twisting your words. =P but there is no way in hell that two scum left is possible.
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because my confidence about the fact that there is only ONE scum left makes you think its me? =P
so if i'm telling the truth. you think lynching me will win you the game for town? =P
thats the best logic ever. =P
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:Levi why did you decide to claim first?
↑ leviathan93 wrote:again. i will iterate this again and again. =P when i die and flip. lynch someone on my wagon.
Which one and why?
Because I thought it over and the fact there there are 5 of us and I really believe there is only 1 scum left makes this situation really in towns favor.
I was not the first to claim and everyone was claiming vanilla. so either some people are lying or I was literally the only pr in this set up.
and since its bastardized my ability makes pure sense. especially only having one of them. I am a vigilante and doctor at the same time. but only one of them per night. the fact that I can kill IS why I believe there is only 3 scum in this setup because I could fail and keep killing town like any vigilante could.
there would not NEED to be more than 3 scum.
and I don't know. Klazam's either being stupid or just trying really hard to push my lynch because he's scum and he sees an opportunity so he's taking it.
however, i kind of want to believe that hes town. leaving scum in STD, Wolfy, or IKA.
if I get lynched and klazam and 2 others are on my wagon. I want the next days lynches to be between the 2 and not on klazam.
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well, that seems suspicious now doesn't it?
1. town wouldn't want to lynch me. (I know the rest of town doesn't KNOW i'm town, but if in a hypothetical situation y'all knew i was town, you wouldn't want to lynch me)
2. therefore. only scum wants to lynch me.
3. i find it highly unlikely that all three town think i'm scum and are on the wagon.
4. I believe it is EXTREMELY likely that scum is pushing for my lynch to happen as it is probably the only way to save themselves and they fear my protection ability tonight.
5. therefore if you are town. I hope you are not on my wagon right now. or hammer me if you are town.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:↑ leviathan93 wrote:I was not the first to claim and everyone was claiming vanilla. so either some people are lying or I was literally the only pr in this set up.
ika claimed D1 unprompted.
You claimed 781.
Wolfy claimed 783
Klazam claimed 784
ika reiterated 787
STD claimed 788
Everyone claimed vanilla after you claimed.
Don't dodge my question. Who do you think the scum is and why?
you don't know me. and because you don't know me. you also don't realize that i don't scum hunt.
I town hunt.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:↑ leviathan93 wrote:I was not the first to claim and everyone was claiming vanilla. so either some people are lying or I was literally the only pr in this set up.
ika claimed D1 unprompted.
You claimed 781.
Wolfy claimed 783
Klazam claimed 784
ika reiterated 787
STD claimed 788
Everyone claimed vanilla after you claimed.
Don't dodge my question. Who do you think the scum is and why?
hmm. i guess I was the first to claim. wow. i thought i wasn't. oh well. I've already stated why I claimed. I thought it was a good idea because I believe there are 4 town and 1 scum left.
if claiming the only power role and claiming first really is something that causes people to fucking lynch town then WOW stupidity MUST be a thing here...
but whatever.
you will see soon enough how wrong y'all are.
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paranoid doctor. =/
you may either kill or protect someone during the night (this ability switches off depending on which one you use first) I chose to have two kills night 1 when I also got the "all townies get a kill"
honestly y'all should believe i'm town specifically for that fact alone. but whatever.
you may either kill or protect someone during the night (this ability switches off depending on which one you use first) I chose to have two kills night 1 when I also got the "all townies get a kill"
honestly y'all should believe i'm town specifically for that fact alone. but whatever.
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↑ Save The Dragons wrote:You had a choice to protect people N1 when thousands of shots were flying by and thought "eh, even though I town hunt, I haven't found any, so I might as well shoot some more?"
yes. I wanted more people dead because I just figured people would shoot the same and not have many people die.
also WHO would I have protected? i had no clue who WAS innocent so I decided I had a better chance to shoot mafia than I did protecting someone.
yes I failed twice with the killing of two town members. but now there are five of us. I know i'm town. so I have 4 people left to choose from and I have a good feeling 3 are town so I feel I can protect town this night.
even though it won't matter and I'll die anyway but yeah.
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1. i'm glad i'm still alive
2. i would assume randomly that both would be town which would leave you and STD to be scum.
3. I feel if either are scum. it would of made it obvious to the two townies on my wagon who the scum was.
4. i also would believe that scum is playing it super safe BECAUSE they know they are the last one left.
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lol. the only reason people are leaning me being the last scum is because i'm the "odd man out".
everyone else is the same and looks the same. So to all of y'all, everyone except me looks null.
This makes it so that because i'm the odd man out regardless of what alignment I may look to people. y'all want me to lynched.
That's how this game works. That's how scum pushes for mislynches in this game. and that is EXACTLY what is going on here.
but don't take my word for it. =P lynch me and find out.
If it were up to me, Id lynch one of the people who would look the same. In my mind we only have 1 scum left and 4 townies so we at least have two days left to lynch. and if we get scum in that time then town wins! yay! =D =D
because of this. if y'all are SO sure that I am scum. please lynch someone else today and y'all can lynch me tomorrow and I will not put up a fight. and then apparently town will win because apparently "I'm the last scum left" =P
I just want y'all to see what happens during the night before y'all make a judgment on me.
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↑ Klazam wrote:VOTE: levithan
Yeah.
Just wanted to see how std responded.
I think this is a good place for the vote. 2scum is pretty damn unlikey because no hammers on either of the 3 "wagons"
So yeah, we have 1 more day, and i want levi gone because his claim doesnt mesh with everything else, really.
really? because you think my claim is bad? =/
you literally would just kill one of the biggest protectors of town JUST because you think it fits
and THEN taking the chance that you can find scum with ONE chance LEFT?!!?!?!?!?!?
thats the best logic ever. =/