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Post Post #45 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:49 am

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I just noticed out host lined up everyone alphabeticly...

except this dude:

VOTE: Klazam
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Post Post #46 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:54 am

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also who would be up for a day 1 mass role call?
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Post Post #50 (isolation #2) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:17 am

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Klazam wrote:
ika wrote:also who would be up for a day 1 mass role call?


No

VOTE: ika

Why suggest it?


I almost always suggest mass rolecall day 1. Why are you against it?
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Post Post #51 (isolation #3) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:17 am

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And dont give me the "it outs the pr" shit response.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #4) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:45 pm

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Klazam wrote:prove that you do that.

A mass role claim makes the game about the role claims, and not individual play. I just got out of a game where i almost lost due to assumptions about roles warping the game. Not interested in doing that again.


no, it would be dicated eveyones actions then to find a cycle that scums cant break. Also due to the mecanic you never know if the mass claim would eb more benifical then not.

But most people have seem to be against it which makes me sad. i would expect in a game that is considered swingy would be more fun in mass role call mode
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Post Post #94 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:07 am

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MadCitrus wrote:I like you Konowa. Welcome to my secret town-block.


whats is the secret town block and why am i not in charge of it?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:11 am

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MadCitrus wrote:
ika wrote:
MadCitrus wrote:I like you Konowa. Welcome to my secret town-block.


whats is the secret town block and why am i not in charge of it?


Pertains to my role WIFOM


*activates deliberate role fishing mode*

does it require a password and how many peopl can be in it?
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Post Post #172 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:01 pm

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*takes cirtus popcorn out of microwave*

you can keep running your gambit.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:50 am

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hiplop

ika

Klazam
Konowa

leviathan93

MadCitrus

Maestro

Natirasha

Save The Dragons
SleepyKrew

Wolfy

Zoidberg

ZZZX


VOTE: ZZZX

discuss
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Post Post #210 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:45 pm

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Zoidberg wrote:VOTE: ika I see you posting in your other games, get in here and explain your damn reads.


They mean absolutly nothing. I just randomly colored them to see who would bite.

Anything else?
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Post Post #216 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:03 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:At the risk of this conversation getting pedantic,

What separated leviathan, or Maestro for that matter, from wolfy or hiplop, when you made that list?


absolutly nothing, i just decided to make colors and see who would react. give me a moment
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Post Post #218 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:14 pm

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hiplop - null he hasnt done much, im going to see if hes playing to GS game
ika - VT
Klazam -town due to reaction
Konowa - seems odd, guts say scum but i need to look further
leviathan93- town based off role read i have on him
MadCitrus - town by meta
Maestro - town, doent have the scum mindset that i look for
Natirasha - My darling, shes town
Save The Dragons - guts say town, theres something that he said that makes me think there is more then hes leading onto
SleepyKrew - hes a null i got burned from him in another game so im weary
Wolfy - gut town
Zoidberg - VT, dont think hes really a VT though, i think hes hiding something
ZZZX- theres someing about isoing him that pings me odd. consider it more gut atm but im leaning scum

p-edit: its fine im a gambler when it comes to my games. i think zoid is just confrimation biased
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Post Post #225 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:26 pm

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did i just claim? you can figure that out.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:33 pm

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ika wrote:SleepyKrew - hes a null i got burned from him in another game so im weary


basicly translaes to GS
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Post Post #236 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:22 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:Oh you did mention GS for him too. Have you compared him here/there yet? How come you're going to compare his play to that game, but I make you wary instead?


hiplop i has suspcions on but never pushed for it.

you i had as twon from your pretesetor. you read town to me as well in that game. i tend to realize the obvious when its too late. its going to take me time to compare. theres a trigger im looking for.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:24 am

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Konowa wrote:
ika wrote:They mean absolutly nothing. I just randomly colored them to see who would bite.Anything else?

Specify who bit and what it means.


Spoiler: results
ZZZX wrote:I would perfer to discuss your reasoning on this vote.


ZZZX bit the bait the most, He ignored the list but instead focused on the vote. Yes the list was pointless but the fact he went after the vote and not my list of colors means hes cares more about himself then my actal reads or anything

Konowa wrote:I agree with almost none of it. Assuming green is town, yellow is neutral, and red is scum.

Except maybe the vote, I can get behind that.


You bit it in another fashion. You took it for face vaule and just disagreed with it but parroted the vote. Your followup (here) give me town vibes. if you were to just leave this and never comeback i would of prompted you on it

Zoidberg wrote:
ika wrote:
hiplop

ika

Klazam
Konowa

leviathan93

MadCitrus

Maestro

Natirasha

Save The Dragons
SleepyKrew

Wolfy

Zoidberg

ZZZX


VOTE: ZZZX

discuss


Why is hiplop town?
Why is madcitrus town?
Why is wolfy scum?
Why am I town?


This is an odd thing, he notices my reads but ignores vote. He focus on 4 central people though. His last question gives me a sour tase due to the fact many times when scums get town read they go "why am i town" if he is to flip scum i could see one of his allies in those 4


did i miss anyone else? otherwise im goign to activly stare at the thread and wait
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Post Post #259 (isolation #16) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:41 am

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Save The Dragons wrote:Ika: do you find ZZZX to be the most scummy? Was your vote random as well?

For you Thesp,
Unvote


Vote: Maestro


At first it was, I should of done it on a green so it contridicts but after his reaction it becamse a serious one.
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Post Post #373 (isolation #17) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:35 am

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i have concluded that sleepy is town.

cirtus is still town by meta.

zoid looks like hes just jumping an easy wagon to look important and continues to attack cirtus needlessly

im on break from work and still want to lynch ZZZX for his bad reaction to my test.
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Post Post #375 (isolation #18) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:52 am

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cirtus, embrage your inner rage and let it out like i did in WH4. It makes you feel better afterwards even if they wont listen i will

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Post Post #399 (isolation #19) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:17 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:Yo ika.
How strong is your metatownread on Citrus?


seeing how i have played 2 games where he was scum, (1st called him out and then he had his team nk me, 2nd found by check but emulated my scum game)

im fairly confident in it.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #20) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:18 pm

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oh btw page top shit is awsome.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #21) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:41 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:
ika wrote:im fairly confident in it.

You're not really fighting his lynch, though.
Oh also why am I a townread?


What am i suppose to say? "HEY EVERYONE DONT LYNCH HIM B/C I HAVE HIM AS TOWN B/C META?"

Really thats all i have going, everyone else seems "NO HES SCUM LYNCH"

if i start yelling in caps screaming hes town will that change everyones mind? The thing with cirtus is that hes a skilled player and knows what hes doing, he sets up small traps for scums to fall into given the time. Even if he does I know a good chunk of them so i can easily bounce back on them.

Your town b/c in GS you tries to apatise everyone, here I dont see it. Do you want em to scum read you cus i can do that
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Post Post #407 (isolation #22) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:33 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:ika: Anything in this game that he's done that's convinced you he's town or is it all based on meta?

Klazam wrote:Ika, point out what exactly makes citrus town. I mean, explain to me how his play is his town meta.


Sigh, this is what i dont want to be doing...

Cirtus is skilled in the sense that he sets up small traps as i have already said. he is quick to catch the smallest of hints in any crumbs or anything. His early "3rd part claim" is really kinda par b/c hes looking for newb scum as well as using out hoemstie meta (on homesite we have a huge thing for 3rd party type roles).

He did an IIoA (which i still dont get), but its how he decides whos town and whos not. if you are just going to go "hurr durr scum" to him, what is he to do? hes has stated full well that everyone has their own way of scum hunting and hes doing his.

im not going to make an entire novel on him on how is play is town or how his meta is town or shit. i just know his scum plays and his town plays and right now hes doing his town play.

scum!cirtus would be more cautous around me b/c i am quick to pick up his quriks when he is. the fact hes being more carelss is a town-tell to me.

i really hate defending people in general too due to the fact i have been decived before. if i think someone is town i will say they are town but never fully defend them unless if i have mod-confrimed evidence that they are town
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Post Post #497 (isolation #23) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:36 pm

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so i come back and see 3 new pages....

i merlygalnced due to me being tired and just got off work so im going from top of head:

@SK, everyone seems gun-ho that hes scum, last time i did this on anohter site they lynched him in lylo and lsot the game. im not gonna let a reapeat of that mistake of it happen.

@STD, i dont really mean to be jerk about it but i often have trouble explaining things in a manner that ppl understand.

@klazam+everyone else, yes me and cirtus played over 3 sites so we know each other rather well.

if i missed anyhitng smoen link ill be back later
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Post Post #551 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:43 pm

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the fact you guys are still circulating around cirtus is boring me.........

doe anyone else have anything of intrest or am i just going to stand here and look pretty?
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Post Post #554 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:21 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:
ika wrote:the fact you guys are still circulating around cirtus is boring me.........

doe anyone else have anything of intrest or am i just going to stand here and look pretty?

I've got something coming up! But why are you ignoring the Klazam thing and the hiplop thing?


what the part about meta and stuff or something else?

if thats it i dont have much imput on it.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:33 pm

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Klazam wrote:i mean, i involved you. you should have some input on it


what part of it? i looked back and most of it seems to be stuff that doesnt have much.

you think player meta is not good but site meta is.

ive presented why hes town over and over and really anything i add is just the same thing just said diffrently as far as it looks liek to me my argument is not going to change anything. the last thing i guess i can ask is give him another day or something.

really i dont get what you guys are asking me to say and i feel like im just repeating myself over and over...
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Post Post #664 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:24 pm

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i just caught up and seeing how ZZZX is not going anywhere and still think cirtus is town, im going to go with the others on this

VOTE: hiplop

i looked thorugh his iso and noticed a lot of his post are very self-concis about him being town-read by others....
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Post Post #696 (isolation #28) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:00 am

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Save The Dragons wrote:Actually, there have been 3 claims so far, iirc.

ika's dream of a D1 massclaim is slowly coming to fruition.


yesssss, slowly but surely its coming together

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Post Post #702 (isolation #29) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:09 am

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SleepyKrew wrote:Oh ika did you find your trigger or whatever


for scum!cirtus? no hes yet to do it, there are other facotrs im looking for as well and he has yet to show any of them.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #30) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:17 am

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SleepyKrew wrote:For hiplop


partly, him being self concoius is more of a gernal trigger for me on anyone. also adding in the fact hes going "hey ika im town wtf" kind of thing sounds liek hes trying to grasp at someone to defend him
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Post Post #707 (isolation #31) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:30 am

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SleepyKrew wrote:But that wasn't the trigger you specifically said you'd be looking for, was it?


there are spcifics yes, but general ones also work no?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #32) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:31 am

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i can also see hiplop doign a gambit as well, but i rather wait it out
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Post Post #751 (isolation #33) » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:23 am

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shot ZZZX, you next
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Post Post #777 (isolation #34) » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:34 pm

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well im always for a mass claim i wanted it day 1 but if i am thinking about it right its not going to yeild much...
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Post Post #787 (isolation #35) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:58 am

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well i already calimed in day 1, but im VT as well, i was also somewhat expecting moutnous with everyone getting abilited each night...
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Post Post #797 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:25 am

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so i got an idea...

VOTE: no lynch

maybe there will be anohter twist thing. i feel like we arent getting anywhere
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Post Post #819 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:15 pm

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leviathan93 wrote:VOTE: IKA

he's doing what maestro did last time and pretty much lurking and he was scum. out of the four of you. my vote is here because of less content given.


ive been busy with rl tyvm, i have been out most of the day.

Wolfy wrote:feels a bit too early in the day to hammer.

@ika
What do you think? Still want to no lynch or do you want to hammer leviathan?


idc, my question is why do you want me to hammer? you could do the same.

Klazam wrote:potentially 9+ 1 shot vigs- how do you balance that with seemingly only 1 pr? adding 1 more scum might work

but your absolute confidence that theres only 1 scum left and your fucked up role claim is the reason why I'm voting you


you know this game was advertised to be considered basterdized right?

if we dont have much else to add i wouldn't mind hammering. consider it intent
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Post Post #846 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:33 am

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you called? im on break atm from work so my time is breif for now. but if you need soemthing ask
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Post Post #851 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:55 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:

ika:

Are you deadset on no-lynch? I don't really see the benefit; there's no guarantee that anything will happen tonight. If we're wrong today, we'll either be shooting each other tonight and who knows what the hell will happen, or we'll just be in lylo tomorrow like normal, thus we deny the option to take out one player from the equation. We'll have to pick from 4 instead of 3.

If we're right, we win. I like winning.


not really, while there is the possiblity nothing could happen, there is the possiblity of something happening. really im just a chance taker. if we lynch and its town we just lost another town and then if theres another kill, it lylo, if we no lynch and only single kill (assuming no crazy stuff) we are in mylo, witch is a better position imo

i do agree that right now us stalling is becoming counterproductive.
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Post Post #855 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:07 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:My bad, I'd never heard of mylo before. Even so I don't think I'm going to no-lynch, I don't really see the benefit unless we had a reason to no-lynch tomorrow as well.

ika, wolfy, who do you think the scum is?


rereading this game over:

i would say high chance of levi if not it would be in the following fo who i suspect most to least

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Post Post #856 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:08 pm

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ill give it another 24 hrs then i will hammer unless if nobody has anything else to ask/add.
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Post Post #861 (isolation #42) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:14 am

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well im goign to be out and scince nobody has said anything

VOTE: leviathan
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Post Post #867 (isolation #43) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:27 pm

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Man i was hoping for a another twist of 1 shot abilites...
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Post Post #868 (isolation #44) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:28 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:*sigh* I'm still alive, damnit.

K. Of the two of you left I know who I think it is but apparently my reads just suck so I'm going to wait a bit and try to look back at the game.

Also,

Thesp wrote:
leviathan93,
Townie
, lynched Day 2


Thesp wrote:
All pro-town players are given a 1-shot, Night-1-compulsory vigilante power.
Each pro-town player
must
send me a PM with another player's name for an intended nightkill. As long as no one stops them, the submitted player will be killed tonight.


Does townie typically mean pro-town? I try to use the word townie only when refering to vanilla, and I find it odd Thesp would refer to pro-town in one and townie in another situation.

If so, some of the flipped townies could have been power roles? I shouldn't have tried to guess the setup.


I interpreted that as town-aligned, regardless of role.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #45) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:25 pm

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VOTE: vote std

and im confident enough to hammer
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Post Post #875 (isolation #46) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:25 pm

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VOTE: std

dunno if it works but making sure
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Post Post #877 (isolation #47) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:19 pm

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Klazam wrote:Ah shit. Did i make a mistake


no. i think you did the right choice
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Post Post #880 (isolation #48) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:05 pm

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GG everyone, i kinda have a lot to say for everyone but for now a breif thing:

hiplop: i want to say your freakout help pushed your lynch
Aegor: dont remmeber much sadly will look back and say
Konowa: same as above
MadCitrus: and this is why you dont make townblocs, once scums gets in, its very easy for them to manipulate
Natirasha: not much
Riddleton: didnt get to do anything.....
SleepyKrew: tbh you were probally the only one i feared, im glad someone shot you N1
ZZZX: not too much, i woud of used the same argument as town tbh
leviathan93: nice gambit, but it backfired :(
Wolfy: yup the most obvious kill

tbh i was considering a no-kill and seeing what i could do.

if hsot donest give out maf QT i will, you will see i had this full laid out plan for lylo.

but more as people post and when im not as lazy/tired
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Post Post #884 (isolation #49) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:17 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:goddammit ika
Why did you fear me?


Also I really feel like I should give leviathan some constructive criticism but I just can't.


from day one, yours questions/approach towards me gave me an irking suspicion you suspected me. i actually killed ZZZX just to keep up my personification.

@dragon: i was afraid me killing shroom might of pointed towards me.

i was afarid of the "too town to be town" after shroom death. i was had a plan of claiming survivor and see how it ended up
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Post Post #885 (isolation #50) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:23 pm

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i will say the day 3 opening was a huge sigh of relief to me.

my mind was going (ii was at wrok)

"oh shit day open, what they doign what they doing"

*gets home and gets on computer*

dragon: suspect klazam with smaller one on me
klazam: suspect dragon with smaller one on me
me: omg yes, *stares at thread*
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Post Post #896 (isolation #51) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:56 am

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im gonna do this and respond later, m only on break from work

mafia QT:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=58661

you can see, i try to plant liek 3 steps ahead
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Post Post #899 (isolation #52) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:03 am

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Honey bee wrote:Nice setup. It's unfortunate that this can only work going into the night phase blind (and only once). but vig kills are fun =p

Good job ika.


ty, i loved this "everoyn is a vig" it was straigt up hilarious

Natirasha wrote:The setup was obviously VTs v goons once the gimmick happened. Leviathan is just really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really bad.

I was trying to policy lynch him for a reason--outside my wincon, of couse.


argubly, if people isoed you they prob would of found you and him unalgined by you pushing for PL (unless we assum bussing)

Natirasha wrote:ika carried us sorta. I know I didn't do much.


Its ok dear, next time.

MadCitrus wrote:Something was off as in, I PoE past 3 mafia lol


I know, the thing was to me is i could WK the crap out of you. The all vigs to me was "well there goes cirtus". I prob would of killed you n3 if its continues somewhat normal game b/c i would figure you would catch onto me soon
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Post Post #905 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:56 am

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Thesp wrote:



Setup


It was indeed 10 townies and 3 mafia, with no special abilities, other than the N1 mass vig, which no one was made aware of prior to the game. Role PMs were generated with code substantially similar to that in the spoiler below:


In retrospect, I wonder if I should have said "Vanilla Townie" for the roles, as that seemed a source of confusion. I may likely tweak the win condition of the town, as that seemed to give away that Mafia was the only threat to the town (though I may want that, and may make it more explicit if I do).


yes i think some people confused townie and VT, they are essenasly the same though (i call mine citizens), its more of host prefrence



The Twist and N1 Choices


Here's what happened N1, in Paint.NET form:

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There were a few kills I was surprised by, but I figured the night would be bloody. I thought Save the Dragons' choice to try and overlap kills was innovative. The thought of making all townies a 1-shot vig has been done before, but has been relatively and reasonably gamed by having everyone shoot the person below them on the list. Without warning, I was intrigued to see how people would react. I wasn't sure which side would have better odds here as the town would have 9-10 kills depending on how D1 went, but the mafia would have no power roles to work against other than N1. A good D1 from mafia would have them in the driver's seat (or even auto-winning N1), but here they took it down to the wire. I was happy with the results, as many (most?) players seemed to have enjoyed the game.


yes, i enjoyed the game fully, even though i didnt get to use the one shot vig, it was still nice to have. it was interesting to see the results :D




Replacements


I was disappointed that Zoidberg replaced out, but understanding. Actually, I thought his wagon was pretty valid until he started posting loads of content, and thought he seemed town, and was a bit surprised that he requested replacing out, but if the game's not fun for you, it's better to get out than drag everyone else down with you. I was worried that his site-leaving would make the slot seem significantly likelier as town, but his N1 death mooted that.

On the flipside, Maestro's replace out was at a dreadfully awful time. He PMed me right as it went into night, which is his right. However, what townie is going to replace out right when given a vig kill shot? (Very few, I imagine!) I would be very concerned if I had to advertise the replacement need at that moment for fear of drawing a lot of kills towards the slot! Fortunately, I already had another replacement lined up. (When I had previously advertised the replacement request for Zoidberg, I had two requests within minutes of each other.) I was then stuck with when to announce the replacement, and ultimately decided to let Riddleton (the replacement player) decide whether to announce now or after N1, and he chose immediately. In another fortunate dodge of the bullet (for me, anyway!), he was killed N1. As a general question to you, how would you have handled this? Would you have preferred me do something different?

In any case, huge thanks to both Aegor and Riddleton for replacing in quickly and being quality players for your duration. Let me know if ever you're modding something and need a replacement and I will do my best to help you out.


as my rules would be, all replacements are made public immitetly. if it was day 2 and he posted first i would be questioning it if i was town.

if you dont mind what was the reason?




The Game Itself


I must preface this by saying that my views and reads are naturally colored by the fact that I knew the alignments of all players. So, I may be horribly wrong in my perceptions simply because I knew too much to perceive it exactly as one who didn't know.

I thought the wagon on Zoidberg early was legitimate, but as he posted content, I thought he looked considerably more town-like. I thought the wagon on MadCitrus made lots of sense, and thought he did himself no favors by being very standoff-ish for much of the early game. (Note to players regarding strategy: if you do things that look scummy and get a wagon, it is silly to suggest that scum must have capitalized on this by voting you. It's hard to argue that you've drawn scum to your wagon, particularly because it's nigh impossible to tell which ones are scum
if any
. The vast majority of players on MadCitrus (save Natirasha, who was very late to the wagon) were town. hiplop was also lynched by a lot of town. Mafia primarily lurked and posted contentless posts during D1 and were allowed to do so. I think I may policy lynch lurkers/low content creators in the future in games I play in, simply because it can be effective. The nature of this particular Mafia with a Twist didn't allow that, but they didn't know that.

I still have no idea why leviathan93 claimed a power role. (Care to explain?) I didn't see the utility
even if it had succeeded
, and it stole the spotlight from other potential players. Wolfy may have gotten to hound ika if not for the attention he drew, and it lead to all three townies lynching the other town, which made D3 even harder.

I also thought Save the Dragons was the most obviously town player throughout the game, but again, this may be drastically colored by the fact that I had actual knowledge that he was town. ;) In any case, ika played well in staying out of the way of the town on this one. If it had gone the other way (with Save the Dragons choosing between ika or Klazam), I don't know if it would have been any different.


ya, my priciple as scum is if town suspects each ohter and implodes, i let them run with it. its sneaky and somewhat underhanded but its a start i will abuse. As already stated i could see levi unaligned with nait based off approach




Final Thoughts


I hope you enjoyed playing the first installment of Mafia with a Twist. I had fun watching, and I hope I was active enough with prods and votecounts to keep things moving as best I could. I am thankful for the effort of each and every one of you, as really it's the players that make a game fun or not, I just keep things moving. Thanks again, and I'll see you next time!


check pm, i loved this and would do again

p-edit: i liked how you added in right to fix votes, i am considering adding that
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