Micro 376: Chosen Mafia - Game Over = Perfect Town Win

[T S O]

UNVOTE:

^ I endorse this product and service

~AP

OMG AP!! Play league with me later!!

So, you didn't know AP was on, yet he just happened to be on the account immediately after you posted ...?

What?

[T S O]

Do you think it was a coincidence?

[T S O]

Do you think it was a complete coincidence that the series of events occured:

Head 1 of the hydra posts.
Head 2 posts less than a minute later.
Head 1 expresses surprise.

Do you think it just so happened that the two of them randomly came on within a minute of each other?

What is your opinion on post #13?

[T S O]

It just feels rather jarring.

[T S O]

I'd like to call it a scumtell to get us out of RVS but I think I'd expect better of a hydra containing Pig.

[T S O]

(and ETL, didn't know before)

[T S O]

That's just weird, then.

[T S O]

Why did you egopost if your hydra is in the game and you'd already seen the hydra post?

[T S O]

You know what TSO stands for? the scum, obviously!

Close, very close, but not quite.

[T S O]

I also don't understand how #23 could work save for hopelessly naive mafia, but whatever.

[T S O]

GG is town and TSO is annoyingly scummy so far.
VOTE: TSO

Please elaborate, your cases are so usually top-class and your history of reading me so often correct that I'm particularly excited to hear you've formed a scumread on me.

It's also a bit disturbing that you called me scum, GG called me Town, and then you immediately accepted this without pushing your read. Why?

[T S O]

So, what you're saying is, you think I'm Scum, but you have no problems with other players completely disagreeing with that, you're not seeking to either change their opinion or have them change yours, and also you can't actually articulate why you think I'm scum.

And you wonder why I'm so often derisive to you.

[T S O]

I have a theory where if I constantly point it out he may actually correct it.

[T S O]

This question about "who would YOU veto gaiz" is really bad and has no advantages.

[T S O]

Its not. Once we get a few flips you will see how good it is

What part of the plan gets better when we get flips?

Also you are not in a leading position this game e.g. revolution
Explain

This game is 3 pages old, perhaps.

I have a theory where if I constantly point it out he may actually correct it.

good luck with that! lmao... I have given up on trying to change anyone. And he's not as terrible as some.

I agree with that, but at the same time, you never know. You can't expect people to improve if they don't know what they're doing wrong.

This question about "who would YOU veto gaiz" is really bad and has no advantages.

meh. I wouldn't say it's really bad, and I wouldn't say it has no advantages, but I would say that the manner in which he went about it is not the usual useless question type thing he does as scum (see Organic Chemistry).

I've never seen ZZZX as scum, but my townmeta of him consists of semi-paranoid irrational posts with a big dollop of confidence (see: Revolution Mafia).

I've got a fairly decent townread on him at the moment for the fact that he seems interested in the answers, rather than just making town noises. Know what I mean?

I think so too, but I'm not as sure as you are.

[T S O]

I think I do, it's just really bad and illogical.

I don't want to respond to it until it's at least coherent, however.

[T S O]

oh there we go.

Flubber, what would you grade your reading comprehension out of 10?

[T S O]

no, but it's always welcome to hear, ETL!

[T S O]

At all.

[T S O]

I mean, you seem to be accusing me of pushing ZZZX's lynch, but I haven't called ZZZX scum once in the whole game.

[T S O]

The mistake you're making is thinking I'm trying to get ZZZX to perform a certain action in this game. I'm trying to get ZZZX to become a better player by constantly pointing out flaws of his in every game. I'm not trying to manipulate him. I'm trying to better him.

In this game, he

a) Scumread me
b) Couldn't explain why
c) Was okay with others townreading me, while maintaining his own scumread

despite misreading me in our last game together, where he was the sole town player scumreading me in the entire game. These are my issues with him so far. They're not indicative of him being scum, and I never claimed they were - but I'll still point them out.

[T S O]

have you ever managed to get me lynched

the last time you tried it, you just died in the night.

[T S O]

My point is, that I've played with you twice, called you scum twice, and you were scum twice. It's not like I get into a town-v-town catfight. It's just me reading you correctly.

[T S O]

That's true, but I most certainly would have got you lynched in Revolution Mafia.

[T S O]

it really wasn't a misrep.

us talking about this is pretty useless, but fwiw, you can attack me if you want; I'm sure I can handle it.

[T S O]

I can see Josh, I don't see Flubber.

[T S O]

and ZZZX is chosen.

THIS PINGS MY SCUMDAAAAAAARS

if I am ever lynched and was choosen lynch this thing.

What possible reason would scum-Flubbernugget have to say this?

[T S O]

If Flutter flips scum I'd be looking at myself as Chosen, actually.

[T S O]

Aren't you still calling me scum?

I mean, I don't think a Flubber-TSO team is -at all- likely, but you seem to think it is.

[T S O]

Unvote
Vote: Josh_B

I don't really see the other two.

[T S O]

(and yes, by the way, that's not just a statement; I'd like an explanation)

[T S O]

Aren't you still calling me scum?

I mean, I don't think a Flubber-TSO team is -at all- likely, but you seem to think it is.

Why is a TSO-Flubber scum-team so unlikely?

I obviously know I'm Town.

Aside from that, Flubber's entrance of calling me scum, wildly misinterpreting my posts and then backing down is so blatantly not-partner.

Unvote
Vote: Josh_B

I don't really see the other two.

So because someone says 'Hey, scum is x,y or z' you feel the need to vote one of those three choices? You can't make your mind up for yourself?

I didn't like Josh.
GG didn't like Josh either.
I voted Josh, because he is really the only person I'm scumreading atm (excluding you).

What part of this do you feel is problematic?

You don't think scum exists outside of those three people?

I specifically said I did not think the other two were scum - so yes, it seems fairly obvious I do.

[T S O]

I really, really dislike 142.

[T S O]

out of the game for a second, how do you access sitechat? do you need privileges?

[T S O]

Josh-BBT scumteam?

[T S O]

I disliked your first post a lot.
I also disliked your second post a lot.

You seem to be chainsawing me for voting Josh.
Hence, a Josh-BBT scumteam is my best guess right now.

Do you have an issue with the logic I'm using?

[T S O]

Of course not. I have no problem with being questioned; however, the manner in which you did it is the problem.

[T S O]

The manner in which you did it has nothing to do with your playstyle; rather, your alignment is what I'm calling into question.

[T S O]

what's your opinion on BBT

[T S O]

That's completely untrue.

Perhaps your playstyle is unusually scummy in my eyes, but I think you're scum here. I like you as a person.

[T S O]

I, too, hope you boys didn't draw scum.

That would, indeed, suck for you.

[T S O]

It kinda saddens me I'm not scum with LC, but hey.

[T S O]

It kinda saddens me I'm not scum with LC, but hey.

So who

are

you scum with?

ETL

oh god did you forget your role pm AGAIN etl???

[T S O]

what are your thoughts on bbt? do you think it was a chainsaw defence? a white knight? something else?

[T S O]

I was calling Josh scum.

BBT came in and attacked me for voting Josh.

It begins at post #142.

[T S O]

Why are you independently scumreading BBT?

[T S O]

well, yeah, I guess we just view the posts completely differently so.

what part of my TSO-Flubber explanation did you have a problem with again?

I looked at it again - I still don't see what you say you see.

[T S O]

fwiw I don't agree with you saying I was sheeping you; to be blunt, I'm not even townreading you, so I fail to see why I'd sheep anyone who I don't think is heavily town - but I can see how it comes off that I was.

[T S O]

The point is that the response is null because of this.

Except that wasn't what you actually said, ETL.

TSO's response could easily be interpreted as scummy,

since it inherently comes off as defensive and distance-y

but being that it was prompted by BBT, I'm inclined to disregard the answer entirely.

[T S O]

Because you're asking a retarded question which I already answered perhaps.

[T S O]

It's like you have this problem where you physically cannot understand very simple logic.

[T S O]

TSO - I don't think you understand what I'm saying. It LOOKS scummy, but it ISN'T ACTUALLY.

Instead of insulting my reading ability, please try improving yours. I'll use the Socratic method to do this.

Why did you feel it looked scummy?

[T S O]

Whoa, what is going on here? Since when was I defending JB?

Since you came in and attacked me straight after I had began to attack him.

Clearly, if you felt JB was a good vote, you would not have done this.

You don't have an opinion on JB, or on anyone, but you're still trying to tell me it was a bad vote.

That's absolutely disgusting logic.

Spoiler: What BBT actually said

So because someone says 'Hey, scum is

x,y or z

' you feel the need to vote

one of those three choices

? You can't make your mind up for yourself? You don't think scum exists

outside of those three people?

If you're scum-reading me, why are you happy to go with what seems to be

other people's choices

of a lynch as opposed to your own? You should try to think independently, otherwise, you look like scum. You're welcome.

a) vote within those three choices

It's very cute that you're able to use bolded text, but next time, try using it on something relevant.

(note: I do not consider bullshit rhetoric and you bolding misleading phrases to be relevant)

Note the use of plurals. This would imply that had TSO voted for JB, ZZZX or FN I would have asked the same question. I thought my stance on the situation and the direction my questioning was coming from was fairly obvious, my bad, it clearly wasn't.

Yeah, I'm not going to let you pull this either.

There is no proof that you would have done this, other than your word. It's literally unprovable. Let's go on hard facts here. The hard fact in this case is that you had a problem with me voting Josh. You dressed it up as having a problem with me voting, but your real problem was with me voting Josh. So don't try to pretend you were being openhanded - no you weren't.

I mean, at first I thought this was some sort of reaction test you were trying but I'm beginning to think you're purposefully trying to misrepresent my posts.

How the fuck could you think this was a reaction test?

Also, I'm not satisfied.

Why exactly did you feel the need to;

a) vote within those three choices
b) vote there and then

This is why, in my opinion, you either can't read or haven't done so yet. I explained this to you before but you managed to miss it. Let's try again.

I did not "feel the need to vote within those three choices." I already had a scumread on Josh. This is documented. This was not a "best of bad choices" pick. This was me, at the time, picking my #1 scumread, and voting him. I was not voting within a group of choices.

I was voting a scumread.

Do you understand this complicated statement?

[T S O]

Holycrap TSO, are you serious?

If you don't want me to imply that you aren't reading, don't ask me questions I've already answered.

No, really, I am. You feel you're right - I feel I'm right. This method will prove one of us right. I'd prefer to settle this. Maybe it's me.

[T S O]

of course you can! flitter was just a time where my irl life was very very messed up and I vented my anger where I could; online.

[T S O]

You could have voted in 138 if you thought he was scum. But you did it in 140.

So, is this really the great and magical conclusion?

[T S O]

go on, then, lay out the whole cake in a post.

you've been talking about doing it for a while, so I'm sure it will be quite damning.

[T S O]

TSO - my intention was never to insult you but I am having a really hard time understanding what your confusion is and I don't know how else to explain it any better.

My problem, to sum it up, is that I feel that even though you justified the statement with "inherently it looks scummy" I still feel you -also- thought it was a poor answer, regardless of the stupidity of the question.

I'll admit I could be wrong here, but that was just how I saw it.

[T S O]

wait please tell me #226 isn't your case

don't make my opinion of you degrade even further!

[T S O]

Because I wanted to know why specifically you thought the answer was bad and it felt like you were kinda snaking out of it.

[T S O]

well, your pov was wrong.

[T S O]

how does your townread on me magically fluctuate to scum

was it because I said your slot wasn't town?

Votecount 1.10:

Josh_B - [2] - Guilty Gunsmith, T S O
T S O - [2] - ZZZX, BlueBloodedToffee
ZZZX - [1] - Corrino

Not voting - [4] - awestfie, Flubbernugget, Josh_B, Heartless

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)

[T S O]

Personally, I think you are taking pages out of my scumbook and just being an argumentative scumbag for the sake of being an argumentative scumbag right now.

It's great that you do this and all, but I don't model my scumplay on yours and being argumentative is specifically a hallmark of my towngame, and you know this, seeing as we had a huge argument in 2014.

[T S O]

^ Is that directed at me?

No, its because you engaged EtL in a non-argument over nonsense and smoked up the thread with it. Plus I think you and JoshB make sense as a scumteam, so Im packaging that up and shipping it.

directed at your slot.

why exactly would I argue over nonsense as scum and not town?

and how does me and Josh make sense as a scumteam?

[T S O]

show me where I've done, specifically I, TSO, have done this, without Josh initiating it.

[T S O]

this is such an awful argument, wow, I don't know why I'm even responding other than to humour you, but I may as well.

[T S O]

that is such shitty logic

[T S O]

anyway off you go and make this magical "tso-scum-with-josh-because-bussing-plus-historytalk" even though I have never. ever. bussed once. in my history of scumplay. unless it was a foregone conclusion.

I'll wait.

[T S O]

lmfao

you found nothing, didn't you

[T S O]

Here's your logic:

Josh is talking about out-of-game stuff with TSO.
Josh always initiates this.

Therefore, TSO is scum with Josh.

[T S O]

The only conclusion you can draw out of that is that Josh is scum - but then again, you're just trying to fit TSO-scum into your arguments no matter what, and doing a shitty job of it.

[T S O]

so why exactly am I scum again

just summarise it

[T S O]

jesus ap, you're fucking terrible. straight up.

I've heard a lot of things about you, I was excited to play with you in 2014, you were shit in 2014, I took it as a once-off, but you're even worse here.

[T S O]

I mean, that might hurt, but your logic is just so bad it absolutely has to be said. sorry, but I don't think it's false.

[T S O]

It's not a personal attack, it's my personal opinion saying AP cannot read me for his shit.

[T S O]

Which is completely true, ETL, so don't attempt to say I insulted him. He can't read me. At all.

[T S O]

oh please, you're calling me scum for no reason, it's not a policy lynch.

[T S O]

I didn't make a sweeping evaluation of his skill, I made a sweeping evaluation of his skill in relation to me. It clearly fucking says it.

[T S O]

ehh

[T S O]

shit

[T S O]

right so I highly doubt anyone's actually going to believe this, least of all AP.

but in my anger at typing the post I meant to say "AP is fucking terrible at reading me" and I posted "AP is fucking terrible" instead.

This was not what was meant, and I thought that AP and ETL were completely overreacting, but I realise why now.

I appreciate no-one will believe this, because I know I wouldn't, but I would admit if I actually meant what I said - and for once, I didn't.

[T S O]

My god, TSO needs to be lynched post-haste. Whenever you guys come around to it, we can get this scumlynch kicked off.

GGO turned me to a null read or idk and TSO became one of his scum reads? what a quick change.
I want both of thier heads on a wall. I hear a bus gone wrong.

I smell it in my bones.

this is not a bus. no. bad. wrong. no bus.

[T S O]

I initially thought TSO's frustration here was a genuine town frustration; despite it being incredibly immature and out-right rude. Problem with it is, if you read the two posts before it; it almost feels like the frustration came out of absolutely no where; almost as if, it was forced.

But, if you made a huge effort to go back about 2 posts, you would see me becoming progressively angrier.

Wow, that was pretty difficult!

[T S O]

Nah, those posts were nothing compared to the frustration is 267, that's why I ignored them. You're getting mad over someone who's potentially misreading you which is incredibly silly. Stop being a dick.

What?

You said my anger was faked because it didn't have any run-up, I showed the run-up, and you replied with nonsense?

[T S O]

well, in terms of player-player, I'd love to work with you, but my problem is I still kinda think you're scum.

[T S O]

what the fuck does 305 even mean

[T S O]

it would be great, though, if you'd stop posting your weird passive-aggressive bull for a while.

see, I can do it too!

[T S O]

not ZZZX.

Flubber's weird attack on me straight away for nothing.

[T S O]

not ZZZX.

Flubber's weird attack on me straight away for nothing.

But you don't think he's scum?

I have so many other scumreads, he's really not a priority.

[T S O]

anti what's your read on gg?

[T S O]

ETL is pretty damn town

really?

[T S O]

you might have guessed this, ETL, but it was a doubtful response, not a ecstatic question

[T S O]

ETL is pretty damn town

really?

let me ask you something. who are you not scumreading?

zzzx is my only confident townread. yes, really.

you/lc/awf are lower-level townreads.

so, bbt/gg/jb/fn, yeah.

why do you think etl's town again?

[T S O]

you might have guessed this, ETL, but it was a doubtful response, not a ecstatic question

I don't really care. I know what I am. I know what I'll flip. I know how it will make you look when I do. So keep on with your.. whatever you're doing, cuz it sure as hell isn't scum hunting. One town read... lol

ETL

p-edit: what he said.

let me just bold something for you in nice big writing

[T S O]

you/lc/awf are

lower-level townreads.

lower-level townreads

[T S O]

because

1) she's actively scumhunting
2) she's grabbing my shirtcollar and pulling me into the game instead of shoving me away

see: dark age of the law for what i'm talking about

now. you tell me. why is she scummy?

because she hasn't done anything yet I don't think is easily fakeable as scum.

I didn't like her trajectory on #142 (I didn't like it, I didn't like it, oh wait I like it). I didn't like that she still said she was scumreading BBT on gut when there were a lot of relevant things he'd done I felt were alignment-telling and she said they weren't scummy while still maintaining a scumread. it's hard to explain, but it was almost like she was disagreeing for the sake of it.
I don't understand their trajectory on me (probtown, town, town, scum, confscum) either. ETL did the exact same thing as me, yet I was called scum for it, which should have triggered a bell in AP's mind (town did this, he did the same, this tells me something).
I think AP's hyperactivity is a bit too much.
I hate posts like #332 because it feels like ETL is using "let's sync up" as an excuse to drop towntells and get away with it.
The earnest tone in which she says a lot of things straight reminds me of me in 536 - I hate saying that, but it's the only comparison I have.

[T S O]

don't bother.

[T S O]

@ anti: honestly thinking the same thing re TSO.

can you please stop trying to pretend you think I'm scum in any way

at least admit your intentions.

[T S O]

Hey TSO.

You're bad at reading me. Anti isn't. If you're town and you think he's town, you might want to work with him on it instead of fumbling around about us.

And by the way, strong town to town to maybe scum to strong scum, is a pretty damn natural progression, I'd say.

ETL

Hey ETL.

You and AP are bad at reading me. Sthar isn't. If you're town and you think he's town, you might want to work with him on it instead of fumbling around about me.

TSO

[T S O]

maybe that was why I said directly. fucking. after. that I hated the comparison????

[T S O]

why are you wasting your time talking with me if all you're interested in is selective quoting and sniping? you and ap can do it on sitechat and I won't have to put up with it. win-win.

[T S O]

you've got no logic and a grudge.

ftfy

[T S O]

why am I scum

I've asked this about 10 times

[T S O]

I'm not answering any questions until you state why exactly you're scumreading me.

It's pathetic that GG is trying to skate around the fact they have nothing by refusing to talk to me. Pathetic.

[T S O]

It's pathetic that GG is trying to skate around the fact they have nothing by refusing to talk to me.

No, I'm refusing to talk to you because you are toxic and I'd rather not have to read any more of your posts than is necessary.

and that's great, but you still haven't explained why you think I'm scum and your refrain of "I hate you" when I ask you for it is wearing reaaal thin.

[T S O]

you know TSO, you could quit being an inflammatory asshole for the sake of being an inflammatory asshole (which i've

seen

you use to advance a scum win condition before) and actually, you know, give some solid scumreads.

oh please

you don't know my scum meta, anti. I've imploded as town 2-3 times and I've faked it as scum once in LyLo and the day before. Not on page 1.

[T S O]

And I explained why I thought GG was scum and you just gave me this bull about page numbers. I told you not to bother because I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain a scumread when your mindset is so against it you refused to even try to find it.

it's not like you'd scumread etl anyway, anti.

[T S O]

p-edit: Very briefly, I

have

had you, swifty, ZZZX and BBT as town. TSO and LC as scum. Flubber/Josh as maybes/unknowns.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[T S O]

And I explained why I thought GG was scum and you just gave me this bull about page numbers. I told you not to bother because I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain a scumread when your mindset is so against it you refused to even try to find it.

it's not like you'd scumread etl anyway, anti.

If you want to talk over the top bitterness, I see a lot coming from TSO for not much reason.

Yeah, let's not address any of the issues I bring up, but flip it back on me! Woo-hoo!

p-edit: Very briefly, I

have

had you, swifty, ZZZX and BBT as town. TSO and LC as scum. Flubber/Josh as maybes/unknowns.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

What is this post for? I don't get it. Since AngryPidgeon's talked quite a bit about Flubbernugget being scum, why are you taking one of ETL's lines out of context and trying to make it look like a contradiction?

-TTH

Because the evolution of ETL's read was her calling herself retarded.

[T S O]

I'm hard scumreading Josh and I'm townreading Flubbernugget.

Yay for unpopular reads!

[T S O]

if anyone can summarise why they do not think Josh is scum, that would be great.

[T S O]

Why do you need them to post content before you vote ...?

[T S O]

I think Sthar's laziness is town.

[T S O]

I'm still calling BBT/JB scumteam.

[T S O]

You might have guessed this, but I don't agree with the LC scumread and I won't support the vote.

[T S O]

I'm fully aware Sthar and Jingle are both cunning enough to emotionally manipulate me by defending me, by the way. It doesn't change my view.

[T S O]

It also disturbs me that awestfie was waiting to move on LC. If LC is Chosen, awestfie's scum.

[T S O]

TSO i dont understand what you are doing.

Hmm?

[T S O]

1. Guilty Gunsmith (AngryPidgeon + EspeciallyTheLies) - ns
2. BlueBloodedToffee - ns
3. Lying Cat - nt
4. awestfie - n
5. Josh_B - s
6. Flubbernugget - nt
7. ZZZX - t
8. Heartless - nt
9. T S O - t

[T S O]

My last few posts were me ...giving my opinion on a flashwagon which sucks?

[T S O]

Like, my biggest issue with your last post is making the assumption that swifty was "waiting to jump in LC" when the progression is pretty easy to see and she's actively scum hunting. Like, the natural read here should be if LC flips chosen, that WE are scum, not her. So this is why I say I dont understand what you're doing because nothing you post makes sense to me.

ETL

there's no progression at all.

[T S O]

"I want to hear from LC before I vote."
"I hate your catch-up post."
"blah"
"bleh"
"vote: lc look guys I got scum"

Votecount 1.23

Flubbernugget - [2] - Heartless, Josh_B
T S O - [2] - ZZZX, BlueBloodedToffee
Lying Cat - [2] - awestfie, Guilty Gunsmith
Josh_B - [1] - T S O
Guilty Gunsmith - [1] - Lying Cat

Not voting - [1] - Flubbernugget

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)

[T S O]

how do you go from null to scum on one post? when your read progression is mainly based on inactivity? when sthar and jingle don't even have a history of inactive scumgames?

[T S O]

Why do you have so many nullish reads? What's the hangup? You're usually pretty assertive.

I agree. I don't know, really. As either alignment, I form a lot of reads early, but I can't do it this game.

Pedit: a flash wagon of two votes? and what?

Quickwagon is maybe a better word.

Pedit: what? Wait to hear from LC. Hear from LC. Hate LC post. Vote. That doesn't look normal to you?

Not really, no. On the outside, maybe, but I can't help but get the feeling he was ready to attack LC and got his opportunity.

Pedit: what??? Street racers to name one. Faith plus one is another. I could go find others but I'm mobile.

afaik he was decently active in Faith Plus One.

[T S O]

do you fancy Jingle?

[T S O]

I think Josh is scum.

You think Josh is scum.

There's a natural follow-up to this.

[T S O]

You're so opportunistic.

You vote me and call me obvscum, my wagon dies, you white knight one wagon and then you immediately jump on the other?

[T S O]

I still maintain it's Josh/BBT over Flubber/BBT.

[T S O]

fair enough I guess.

unvote
vote: bbt

[T S O]

>anti sorts the game
>etl says stop.

[T S O]

"I developed scumreads on both Josh and TSO. I knew they couldn't be scum together, though, so I

began to talk to both of them and did my best to determine which one of them was scum

voteparked on TSO for ages, before I

sorted TSO as town/scum

voted Josh

sorted Josh as town/scum

opportunistically voted some other person after they called me scum."

How are you not voting this guy, ETL?

[T S O]

Don't you ever fucking speak to Sthar like that again.

[T S O]

Sthar, I don't think GG is really viable today.

I'm also more sold on Josh/BBT anyway.

[T S O]

tth who are you scumreading?

[T S O]

ETL and AP don't talk to me for ages, call me toxic, blah blah.
Sthar calls them out for overreacting.
ETL immediately asks me to talk to her.

I don't get it, bluntly.

[T S O]

Are you a Jester?

[T S O]

@Heartless, I'm actually fine with my vote. It's these two votes that I'm concerned about...

Lying Cat - [2] - Guilty Gunsmith, awestfie
BlueBloodedToffee - [2] - Heartless, T S O

Translation: I have a problem with any wagon larger than 1.

Especialy considering that there are so many Vote Kangaroos.

Translation: I have a kangaroo fetish.

Guilty Gunsmith, you are probably the chief. It took me a while to get it, but I think I'm going to jump off of any wagon that grows past two. At least for D1, and probably for D2. We can't no lynch, but I can un-voat.

Translation: I am not allowed to be on wagons with more than two votes for the first two days.

I thought I got the game at first, but then I was like ok, I guess, I have to vote someone, and now I'm like, no I really don't. As long as the vote count stays low, I'm good. 3 votes are probably enough to lynch. Unless it's scum, and then they get a 2 vote boost on whoever they want. I probably won't be upvoting anyone past the highest number of votes, and I'm probably going to stay vote parked for the rest of the phase, unless it becomes more obvious that someone is scum.

Translation: I have finally learned how to play Mafia. Votepark every day, and if the largest wagon is at L-4, putting it or any other wagon to L-3 is tantamount to idiocy. Scum have superpowers called "2 vote boost."

@mod How will you decide plurality if two people have the same number of votes? If you send it to Random.org, Will players be included who have had the most total votes against them, the highest number of votes at thread closing, or the highest number of votes gained? [/bold]

Translation: I'm advocating not reaching a majority.

[T S O]

I think your case is good, I like it a lot and agree with it a lot, but my view is going to be "great" and anti's is going to be "not great." you know that.

[T S O]

And 696 is the first post I've really liked from GG this game.

Votecount 1.28

Lying Cat - [2] - Guilty Gunsmith, awestfie
BlueBloodedToffee - [2] - Heartless, T S O
Flubbernugget - [1] - Josh_B
T S O - [1] - ZZZX
Guilty Gunsmith - [1] - Lying Cat
Heartless - [1] - BlueBloodedToffee
awestfie - [1] - Flubbernugget

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)

[T S O]

I don't think I really gave you shit, ETL.

[T S O]

anyway this is kinda awkward.

I still want BBT dead.

[T S O]

you are so cool

you really don't give a fuck

I wish I was like you

not giving a fuck about anything

change my profile picture to a girl with a fag

don't give a fuck like

ever

[T S O]

if you think she's wrong, doing nothing seems like a great option.

[T S O]

Yep.

[T S O]

how bout bbt

[T S O]

Who's GG's partner again?

[T S O]

What's your stance on GG vs LC again, BBT?

[T S O]

where did that come from

[T S O]

can you take a look at the game

[T S O]

I definitely didn't understand your tone there.

[T S O]

My townreads have all but degraded at this stage - I hope to God there's a 1-shot Vig in this set-up.

[T S O]

ETL I was about to post that I don't think you're scum, remembered everyone said you can fake rage in Faith Plus One, meta'd you, found Dark Age of the Law, found a shit load of similarities.

thoughts?

[T S O]

Vote: Guilty Gunsmith

[T S O]

I have consistently tried to talk to you and the only thing you ever did was rebuke me. I haven't got sthar's back. I've been paranoid of LC all day.

[T S O]

I still am not sure you're scum. The way you pushed me was absolute trash and LC called you out correctly on it. However, your play has somewhat mitigated this.

[T S O]

Now you can go rebuke me.

[T S O]

ETL I was about to post that I don't think you're scum, remembered everyone said you can fake rage in Faith Plus One, meta'd you, found Dark Age of the Law, found a shit load of similarities.

thoughts?

You're asking me what I think about you using shitty meta?



I don't really give a shit. Do it to it, brother.

[T S O]

Unvote
Vote: BBT

[T S O]

I am going to admit I am absolutely fucked. I have no townreads except maybe awestfie. None.

[T S O]

And I, while not really wanting to lynch GG today, don't support an LC lynch today.

[T S O]

I am, however, perfectly willing to champion your wagon, BBT.

[T S O]

I was sold on Josh/BBT a while ago. I could maybe do that.

I still believe there's scum in Josh/BBT.

[T S O]

I agree, to an extent, but some things make me doubt my read. Here, for example, instead of defending himself and preventing his lynch, he's still trying to figure stuff out.

[T S O]

Vote: Flubbernugget

[T S O]

Lying Cat is not going to happen; a Flubbernugget claim is not going to happen; hammer, do not wait.

[T S O]

I will be absolutely flabbergasted if this is scum, by the way.

[T S O]

I've been somehow manipulated into not having a chance to vote -any- wagon I support and I need to re-read the last few pages to understand why.

[T S O]

good luck, town. I believe in you.

[T S O]

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS

[T S O]

love you all xx

sorry for my mediocreness here.

[T S O]

TSO - I'm sorry I picked on you. I just needed to figure you out. I'm sorry you died instead of us.

did you pick on me?

I don't think you did.

[T S O]

Thanks, Wicked!