Micro 376: Chosen Mafia - Game Over = Perfect Town Win

[TellTaleHeart]

My townread on awestfie was very much shaken by her latest series of posts.

-TTH

[TellTaleHeart]

I haven't given much thought to Flubber no, paid more attention to the wagon on him.

You can't be serious. That read was the linchpin of your argument that we were scum, but now we're hearing that you haven't given much thought to Flubber himself?

Unbelievable

[TellTaleHeart]

I feel like AP is the only one reading the same thread I am.

-TTH

[TellTaleHeart]

Man, Z', you are posting up a storm all over the site but here! Golly!

No etL is right though you are totally town.

You are incorrigible, AP.

ETL, is there any plausible reason why ZZZX would be specifically avoiding this game? And avoiding me when I'm specifically trying to have a conversation with him? I still have yet to hear why BBT or AP are scumreads, though I do see that ZZZX is monitoring our activity enough to get onto Antihero about signing his posts.

-TTH

[TellTaleHeart]

Like, you and TTH want me to talk and then ignore me when I do.

Here's my problem with the Josh case.

You say that the end-of-day "vanity wagon" is a scummy association. But I say there's another reasonable explanation for that. Over most of the course of the day, Flubbernugget repeatedly criticizes Josh but his vote never actually ends up on Josh. He knew the votecount here; he knew good and well his vote wasn't on Josh. It wasn't just on a whim. It wasn't "just because". It was a deliberate and calculated move. Every time he logged on and made a post in this game, he kept his vote off Josh

and he wanted it that way.

Why?

I think the most direct and reasonable explanation is that he didn't want his fingerprints on the wagon. And the most likely reason for that is that Josh is chosen. If Flubber were bussing, wouldn't he be OK with having his fingerprints all over the wagon? Isn't the idea behind bussing in the first place to have the vote there so that when the partner flips, the scum gets towncred?

What's your thought on that sthar?

[TellTaleHeart]

Antihero and AP keep dredging up insane paranoia about me, and when I handhold AP, Anti sees it as a scumtell. I'm clearly and demonstrably town, but you all keep getting paranoid anyway. It's like you're trying to read my slot with Guyett meta for some insane reason.

The only thing I'm second guessing with

you

is that you're townreading my half of the hydra for my push on Flubber and you're acting like Antihero is somehow suspect even though Antihero was the main force behind our Flubber attack yesterday. I kind of feel like you're subtly pushing a wedge between Anti and me and it just troubles me a little and gives me some paranoia about you.

Don't shut down on me because of it, though. You seem to be convinced Josh is the answer, but neither I nor Anti do. (I'm not appealing to authority here either, if you think that's what I'm doing. I know how much of a lummox Antihero can be....)

Nothing I've seen from ZZZX made me change my opinion of him. He used behavior from

one

previous game (kind of a small sample size) for the BBT read and then suddenly goes back on it without much explanation to pursue Josh, who is a townread of mine. His recent activity is raising more questions then it's answering. It seems the only adjective we're getting for describing reads is "weird" and that doesn't really mean anything to me.

Let's talk about Guilty Gunsmith since that seems to be an issue with you, sthar.

The only two things that really get me are:
*ETL's first conversation with Anti about Flubber starting around post 409. With the goggles of retrospect (knowing Flubber really was scum), there's visible scum motivation for shutting Antihero down.
*Any of AngryPidgeon's activity starting at post 997. Reading his activity is like being in the back seat of a car driven by a crazy person. I have no idea where I'm going.

With that said, I'd like to refer you back to the post I linked earlier. Post 782

In order for this post to have been made by scum, it requires one of a couple things to be true. (1) ETL didn't count on any momentum picking up on the wagon or (2) she thought Flubbernugget was such an obstruction to her winning the game that she thought the towncred from the bus would be worth it. (1) is kind of silly given how both Antihero

and

I were scumreading Flubber at the time and you already said you'd be willing to vote them. (2) is also pretty implausible given that a better way to advance a scum win condition would have been to leave the vote on BBT and let someone else (probably us) take the fall for the ensuing townflip. It's not like Flubbernugget's lynch was inevitable; he could have easily avoided the Day 1 lynch if Guilty Gunsmith didn't get the ball rolling.

What's you take on any of that sthar?

[TellTaleHeart]

I'm glad to have been the 3rd wheel to the Antihero-ETL steamroll.

I apologize for cluttering up the discussion with all the wrongness.

[TellTaleHeart]

No he can't. He's terrified I'll beat him up. Also, I do what I want.

Looks like you'll have to deliver your own swift kicks to the balls, Anti.

That would actually probably make a pretty good business.

"Tired of having to kick people in the balls yourself? Want to kick someone's balls but they're

on the other side of the country

? Introducing Antihero's Swift Kick to the Balls Delivery Service! Simply place your order and we'll dispatch a master martial artist to kick your recipient in the junk within 2 days guaranteed! Satisfaction or your money back. Call now and we'll throw in a free eye-gouging!"

Someone on Kickstarter would probably be crazy enough to give this money.