Micro 379: Forest Fire Arsonist (Game Over)

[Marquis]

yeah i need to trim my alt list because i'm getting too lazy to change logins so i might as well cut this obvious one loose

@mod: replace tree with marquis

to prove it i will make tree's avatar dance

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god bless u old friend

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anyway notscience is scum and we all know it

can we hammer now

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Feels like a typical ns pl by people who dont play with him much

It's led by Mala, me, and Bins.

Bullshit.

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the case is: we know him
the case is: we know he's scum

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...

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I'm trying not to and I'm reading him off of your read
pretty sure I've already said that

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idk.

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VOTE: majiffy

forgot I shouldn't be taking him-town for granted, read his ISO, looks a lot like his scumgame

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ns sheep me

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ijustwantudead

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you heard the man mala lynch him

pedit yeah idk whats going on

why cant i poe micros its so hard

[Marquis]

I think Mala's ambivalence is a towntell ftr

[Marquis]

because it matches up almost exactly with how I feel about my reads right now

[Marquis]

oh everyone's hedging

how appropriate for this theme

[Marquis]

mayb a bit too suburban tho

[Marquis]

oh are ns and mala involved??

i didnt know that

[Marquis]

sigh

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vote jiffy

and hydra with me

[Marquis]

im sad

[Marquis]

jiffy is scum

trust me ns I may or may not have a cop guilty

[Marquis]

he waited for people's further opinions on mala before full on gunning for a mala lynch

I don't see town majiffy replacing in and judging the gamestate, namely other players' reads, in that way while holding the tunneling back a bit to try and look like a voice of reason

[Marquis]

not to mention after first seeing something he apparently thought was really scummy from mala, he took forever to commit to it when the wagon wasn't even at l-1/2

that's not town majiffy

[Marquis]

no

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hey bins and pants

the wagon you're on isn't happening

do something town

[Marquis]

well it's not.

take a look at yourself too. you're not exactly a "would not lynch" in anyone's list

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bins put him at l-1 plstynottytoo

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how kind of u to respond

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too kind

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I don't see why scum majiffy comes in and defends me when I was a surefire mislynch

if you're town he gets to sit on your stump

[Marquis]

can we just lynch majiffy I really do just want to progress the state of this game in a timely fashion for once please

[Marquis]

with 21 hours left I really would like to have the lynch finished tonight instead of at an awkward time tomorrow when it's unnecessary

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frankly dr pants i do not care about your reads right now because i want this lynch to happen 100% 100%

[Marquis]

my eyes hurt and my soul hurts

perhaps my inclination to not read a single read you have said is the direct result of me getting only one hour of sleep last night

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ns' stumping response looks a hell of a lot more genuine than majiffy's for one thing and it's easy to track his followup thoughts from a town perspective

[Marquis]

but that's what i've been doing this whole game and i'm town

VOTE: ns

[Marquis]

ns is independent of majiffy

[Marquis]

i thought i was right on majiffy

obviously i wasn't

pants those posts were me saying to you "you're the only one on that wagon and deadline is close" i haven't had any particularly strong/existent townread on ns since earlygame

[Marquis]

you found it then
I didn't think town Majiffy would forget about his vote like that, it seemed like an act / so far removed from what i remember of his towngame and votes going with reads really strongly

[Marquis]

sorry jiffy at least we know you're town now yayyyyyy

i want to townread mala because the way she's acting about her scumreads is exactly how i'm feeling about them- so ambivalent and it's really hard to secure good reads in this game as opposed to what i'm used to :/

[Marquis]

Majiffy knows I'm town; he received my friendly neighbor message last night, right?

[Marquis]

I think I can see Bins being scum now actually

mostly due to not remembering a single thing she's done

[Marquis]

yeah, i think i'm town

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sure give me until tomorrow to figure out which mislynches i can get on which days

[Marquis]

sorry that was uncalled for. i'm in a fuck-everything-especially-complex-roots-and-mislynches mood tonight
i'm going to try and do a full iso reread and give reads by tomorrow night / wednesday morning

[Marquis]

watch out guys i have a nasty habit of selfhammering as town

ill bbl but in the meantime! dont vote me if you dont want a town selfhammer ;]]

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also I find that scum like to hide in RVS, so I like targeting those making cheeky comments and such

hence why I said one of ns/Bulge is scum

since no one is discussing

I was just gonna wait and see if anyone else saw where I was coming from, but now I don't really care about those two unless you can convince me you're not scum

and no because no one discussed it and I'm a little preoccupied at the moment so I'm not sure I care about ns/Bulge. neither of you really commenting is a nulltell at best.

Hedging on notscience and The Bulge, between "one is scum" and "I don't care"/potentially "null".

Bulge's post reads kind of oddly to me actually, right after I posted that

not sure if it's a playstyle thing and it's independent of Pants being scummy; don't think someone would react like that when I'm pressuring his buddy? especially deflecting onto himself? the last point is also valid in itself as well.

eh. I dunno. mental note for later I guess.

The Bulge read changes slightly. Nothing big.
But the way he explains it is hedging again, and he doesn't give a clear statement as to his thoughts on Bulge.

if Pants is scum, my pressure should be enough to keep him on his toes for a bit. worst-case, if I get lynched later on because of my interactions with him, he'll be suspected heavier when I flip town.

that said, Pant's comment above on why my post was scummy, where he focuses on lack of vote and doesn't realize I'm asking a separate question while also beginning scumhunting/discussion-prompting, is giving me some townvibes. enough to pull me off him and stop tunneling for a bit. I can always vote him later.

vote The Bulge

Hedging on Pants, in the first paragraph he explains Pants as scum and in the second he says townvibes. No clear statement/conclusion.

actually I think I played with Mala-scum once

hard to say if this is the same Mala (I don't remember things well, nor do I go back to past games for meta) since IIRC she was super busy with work and stuff, but despite her feeling off and while I agree with Pants saying she doesn't stand out... she could be town?

...

I quick-ISO'd Bins and Bulge and think Bins is town and Bulge looks better on a re-read for some reason?

Hedging on Mala big time. No strong commitment for a lot of reads, particularly this one.
Is still hedging on Bulge read.

unvote
Vote: BBT

first person to scream OMGUS gets a cookie.

Unrelated to the rest, but reads as self-aware scum.

tree is ~townvibes~ for some of his non-spammy statements (and even the spam feels slightly townie for some raisin). Bins is also town on gut, already talked about Bulge and Pants... but again, I don't have a concrete townread and I'm probably wrong and the mod is probably laughing at my terribleness.

... bleh, maybe maru's a better lynch today tbh but the way BBT's phrased his accusations towards me (see: most of 346) rub me the wrong way. it's the whole buzzwords thing all over again, instead in a more jumping-to-conclusions phrasing way and I want it dead. also we get pretty much no info from a Maru lynch if we assume either lynch is a scum lynch because he hasn't done diddly.

Hedging on BBT before his likely lynch and townflip.
In a related way, he's hedging on Maru as a counter to BBT.
Again, lots of talk about reads, but he keeps talking back and forth about them and it not only seems purposely confusing as to where he stands, but as scum how it looks like a lot of content in general obscures how he's avoiding taking a stronger position.

mala, I may be biased because I think tree is pretty town but seriously, buddying ns this hard is making me really want to lynch you

Continuing to say things about possible Mala scum but never following up on it, just making sure she remains lynchable.

also 419 and 421 seem like a slip?

we can lynch mala for hammering and generally being abrasive/super-buddying ns, but only the first is a valid point and I would

think

that scum wouldn't make such a blatantly scummy hammer but w/e

Hedging on the reasons themselves for Maru being scum, hedging on Mala, etc...

well, my gut is saying tree is town, because as I said, I'm assuming we're on the same page logic-wise. it's possible we could not be and tree's just being vague-scum but I cant shake my bias. so on paper he's null-scum, by gut he's town/null-town.

Finally trying to start and go back on his long townread on me.

Idk about you guys, but reading through his whole ISO myself, I can't help but think it's a lot of scum trying not to commit strongly to too many townreads or scumreads so he can vote town without taking much heat for it. What I quoted isn't the whole thing, but just scroll through his posts for yourself and I'm pretty sure you'll see what I'm seeing here.

I like Pie's response a bit, but I also don't like his attempts to explain away certain parts of his ISO that were, in fact, hedging. Just because you admit to it for one post doesn't mean other just as bad instances of it aren't the same thing- hedging.

VOTE: notscience

Mala is a very strong townread here. I can see notscience as scum and I trust her ability to read him.

u guys im pretty sure tree is town

[Marquis]

what does tree being town have to do with marquis selfhammering

mutually exclusive

[Marquis]

or perhaps not

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sorry guys im not really in a mafia mood today especially not a fight off a mislynch mood : (
things happebn

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im not going to selfhammer as town this time because ive learned that no matter how bad a situation looks and no matter how impossible it seems not to stop a lynch

people will always blame everything on selfvoting ignoring the context

there is always a way out!!!

[Marquis]

VOTE: bulge

[Marquis]

why do you keep saying its lylo
like i wanna say only scum is that aware of the gamestate and potential future but

[Marquis]

oh

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wow

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maybe you guys shouldn't lynch me then
that would be bad

i also don't see bins doing her hard defense of bulge or hard attack on bulge things that she always does as town which means there is scum between them

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or maybe majiffy/bbt got inflammeateated,
hm
idk
i'll selfhammer if nothing else happens in like 24 hours, i'm going to have the smash demo by then and don't want to have to listen to this any longer

i mean like
pie keeps saying "marquis has to be scum" in every post
given there's absolutely no opposition to my lynch
who exactly are you trying to convince now?

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if i call the scumteam can i win on my own??

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maybe ... pie/bulge?? that's what my gut is telling me rn i think

[Marquis]

well good luck you guys

hopefully i played active/town enough early on to get doused in gasoline

probably the only hope right now, pie was right at least that the chances of a doc protect saving this game are abysmally low

[Marquis]

scum can still douse stumps i thought?

tbh it doesn't matter bc they wouldn't do it, especially with bbt and his whole "fk u guys im outtie" thingy

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LOL

thats a good one bro

*fistpump** chyeah

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lol

so i have no out then man

the game is stalling, you're pretty much the only one who keeps posting content (thinking, thinking, ok fine u can be town and scum................. bulge/bins? bulge/bins yea we got this guys)

everyone is becoming less into the game

why shouldn't i just selfhammer right after you're done with your reads and bring the game to night

given you've all made your minds up already, i'd rather spectate the gamble earlier than later

[Marquis]

if i was scum i'd probably claim firefighter right now i think

but i'm not sure
maybe i'd hesitate

[Marquis]

if i havent claimed firefighter by post 1075 im town dont worry about it

[Marquis]

micc says i can't post gay porn to pass the time
sad

[Marquis]

that's like a really hard question man there's like 4 of them I think....... tho mayb put heir brains count as 1 all together?? yea mayb

Bulge/Bins

this is probably it
I'm doing all the things that she usually town reads me for and yet... Nothing :/

[Marquis]

i'd rather you hammer than selfhammer and get yelled at for no reason afterward, so thanks bae <3

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I don't understand the lack of opposition

lol tho

just

lol

I mean come on

what do you

think

it means

still for the record even I don't understand how the wagon jumped to L-1 so quickly

I just remember something along the lines of "here is a post showing that marquis posted fluff" -> "he must be scum, confirmed scum, omg kill it!!"

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posting because i can

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jiffy talk to me pls

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:k

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VOTE: pie

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(btw, yes I know assuming someone is scum before going into reasoning is fallacious logic, I'm using it as theory/thinking aloud type stuff)

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HURT: mala

[Marquis]

i don't explicitly think you're scum

i just find it funny how yesterday almost all of your scumhunting was associative and contingent on my scumflip

not to say it's a bad thing to keep doing as your are in this kind of lylo

but right now as much as i want to say "just lynch mala" i'll just sit back here and *popcornchips*

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Mala/Marq
Marq/Pants

u forgot those

[Marquis]

so unprettyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Marquis]

frankly speaking I don't think bin's scumgame is this good.

[Marquis]

i'm willing to lend my voice to a mala lynch given that majiffy takes all potential blame in the event of a townflip

[Marquis]

wait

notty is scum

he's in lylo

but it's been 4 days

and he hasn't caused a town loss yet

o m g

[Marquis]

bins u should selfvote

confirm urself as town

[Marquis]

i hope u know ilu and i think ur town

[Marquis]

natis comment rly got to me

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so glad im conftown heeeeee

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burn me

make me even more conftown

[Marquis]

did u know the arsonists can prime each other

that would be so killer to watch

[Marquis]

what are you talking about

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sorry sorry!

cho told me to say it ^x^

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so much mean ;~;

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(i think bins is town)

(i'm being "mean" to you because i think you're scum and i think you fucking tricked me and i hate myself and slightly you for that)

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u must be scum then

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ebwop @ pants

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ok.

[SERIOUSTALK]

bins.

ns.

vote pants right now.

u can blame me if he's town.

the truth is: i am suddenly very damn sure that pants is scum, and since you're both here, it's just convenient.

blame it on me if it's a loss. but i think the mala/ns talk today is draining everyone's hearts and brains out. and it's getting mean (soz). and today needs to end.

that means a pants lynch, who lurked and still lurks and tries to keep him out of all equations.

[/SERIOUSTALK]

i love all of you <3 <3

[Marquis]

i have a major townread on bins.

right now i'm willing to chance notty's emotions being town-driven.

the mala/pie mess is like i cast my fishing rod with the word "TOWNREADS" painted on it in big yellow letters into the middle of that looney tunes tasmanian devil tornado thingy. it's fucked up and i'm not touching it anymore.

but pants is the odd man out. i think the situation today comes down to him being scum

interesting thing to note is that while it's happened to me for every1 else here, i have never once gotten the feeling of a sense of urgency from him.

plz lynch pants, and asap bc the game and the forest is dying.

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that's what u address

o k

o. k.



kill it.

[Marquis]

bins vote pants

bby u can blame it all. on. meeee

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i

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pie if you're town jfc

I'm treating u as confscum from now on

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EBWOP EVERY SINGLE POST MAKES ME WANT PANTS DEAD

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VOTE: NS VOTE:

just vote pants again and F5 madly

[Marquis]

VOTE: ns

Policy

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NS WELL IT'S ME AND PANTS, LOOK I'M HELPING BY BUSSING

lol






I agree

[Marquis]

u almost won mayb

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ok then unvote, pie

pedit no, unvote

[Marquis]

and now vote the person who you just said should be confscum to u

[Marquis]

pie if you're town you had better stay up in case of bins/pants

however I don't think it is

[Marquis]

fyi we're still lynching pants today

[Marquis]

not hammering

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bins isn't scum with pie or mala or ns

bins prob isn't scum in general

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VOTE: mala

[Marquis]

just hammer pants

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please

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idk

lynch mala maybe

[Marquis]

you know I'm pretty sure it's you and pants

you know that right

[Marquis]

snub