Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

[tn5421]

/7 8 9

[tn5421]

*eats varsoon*

7 8 9

[tn5421]

Ah.
I have been eaten.
This was not my goal, not my goal at all.

But I will continue to operate -from within you-.

Don't worry, we (my roommates) have wifi.

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You guys have no idea how jelly I am of that pieguy + GIF hydra.
;_;

I am beyond jealous.

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wait wtf am I doing

there's no nati in this game

VOTE: notsci

NotScience, are you drunk?

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I came back to the site hoping to roll a scumgame with this one, but I'm town here.
It's probably karma.

1) Karma is the biggest bitch.

2) This seems to be a strange thing to say

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GIF and Pieguy will forever be farther than arms reach from me. I respect and adore them so much, but to them I am just scummy flaker shitlord Varsoon

in love with his senpai

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If you underestimate a player, you give them leeway to destroy you.

Words to live by.

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Spoiler:

I'm jealous.

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Bins/Titus/(tn/bert) scumteam

later nerds

Then why are you not voting any of them you cheeky scumfuck

-Cirno

>Has scumreads
>Doesn't vote them
>Scumreads someone that literally hasn't even posted yet
>ishygddt

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Wow. Four pages while I am in bed. You said nothing and have not got out of RVS. Plus I cannot be Great Justice because Bert did not vote me. So sad

NS, how can you have a scumread on me before I post?

VOTE: The Bulge

I am also confused.

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Sakura, why do you think NS was run up so quick but the game is stillbehaving like RVS for the most part?

Because people don't seem to want to analyse or question? That's my guess.

Preference for spam? If you don't question, you don't have to consider hard questions. At least, that's my take on it.

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i haven't even read yet, i just flipped through the pages and saw you boasting your dick size

will read up later
busing watching arrested development (y)

I think he was talking about his hair :3

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Because 2hu

loli 2hus

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hey bitmap rvs is over

WAIT TN IS IN THIS GAME

RVS is never over.

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Is it possible to literally scumread an entire game?

Because you are making me wish it was, @all

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(dont say because im scum or i will nk you)

probs scum <3

[tn5421]

I wanna vote tn. that wall has literally nothing of substance in it

-Rumia

The game is still in RVS and yet you accuse ME of not having substance?

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tn what the hell are you trying to accomplish with anything in that wall? I'm used to you providing content when you're town. that wall has 0.

-Rumia

It was a generic catchup post that I started thinking there was content.

There wasn't.

So I winged it. See above.

[tn5421]

I'm not sure what exactly I can do and I'm not really that motivated right now. I'll be back to post something before this time tomorrow, flashlynch me if im not

[tn5421]

how does this fit into your meta view of tn?

I don't think i've ever played with tn? and if i did it was probably in an osu!mafia game that i probably don't remember, around the time he appeared i was dissapearing, so if you have meta of him let me know.

We played in Chaos in Dummyville.

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What do you think of what we've heard from bins all game

Cutesy defense or actually trying

Ehhh neither tbh, i just feel lots of fluff and a bit of content every here and there, like sparkles of spices in the middle of a sugar-like ISO. Oh wait... guess that makes it the former.

That is basically the entire game so far, lots of fluff with occasional hidden content.

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I personally didnt like his cherrypichking

where was he cherrypicking? I can't find it

-Rumia

It's a typical notscience play, point out shit and then not back it up.

I did cherrypick my catchup post because I was trying to get up-to-date and most stuff so far doesn't really warrant a personal response.

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I personally didnt like his cherrypichking

where was he cherrypicking? I can't find it

-Rumia

he evidently went through the game, selecting quotes, and those were the ones he selected

I'm not even sure this is really a game of Mafia yet.

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like srsly how to you have the patience to go back and briiiing the fluff forward so you can rejoin it

It's hard.
I want to start reading a new fanfic today and this is taking fucking foreveeeeeer.

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Ah yeah i forgot about that game (considering i suicided killing CBot in the middle of D1.)

More like you were beaten to death by the spoon army.

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you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person. although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

By that logic, the very existience of this game is scummy because there is nothing of real substance here.

So now it seems like YOU are cherrypicking.

Which is it?

[tn5421]

you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person. although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

I'm thinking is more of the "He selectively grabbed fluff post quotes and avoided the content ones then decided to complain about the lack of content"

Lol, you say that like this game has content.

Fucking hilarious.

[tn5421]

How the fuck is bins at L-2?

Does anyone have non-RVS reasons for voting her?

[tn5421]

>Redirects me to "read the thread"
>Avoids interacting
>posts a passive-aggressive complaint about not providing content
>refusal to link to where content actually happened rather than the summary of it happening

[tn5421]

If you aren't actually interested in playing with me, then give me one good reason why I shouldn't replace out now so I don't have to deal with your bullshit.

[tn5421]

Ok, so you aren't actually interested in pointing out where content happened.

I'm going to take that as you attempting to paint me as scum.

[tn5421]

Isoing for summaries, brb

[tn5421]

FLUFFLINE INCOMING:

So apparently someone thought it was a bright idea to not include a thread link /confirm or whatever.

Bins/Titus/(tn/bert) scumteam

later nerds

Ok cool guess i'm conftown now then.
notty's being obvtown.
pieguy's being scum

Vote: Team 9

OMGUS... Oh wait but i shouldn't be posting incriminating evidence...
OH DAMN GUESS YOU GOT ME!

On other news I'm thinking that using the same strategy as the previous game of this that i played, could work out.

112 (outside-of-game-link)

Off-Topic: Notty you forgot to tell me your steam...

P-Edit: Yes, the cop claimed by being idiot on that game so i had to come up with a way to try to sync up the docs.
P-Edit2: What.

There are so many good avatars this game. I am pleased.

Define: Good Avatar.
What's your read on PieInFreezer?

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(almost-content)

I dunno I found him opening with a vote and asking me if i'm town kinda awkward, I'd think pie would omit the "Are you town?" part and just wait for a reaction, It maaay be a bit of a stretch, but that's what I'm going with for the time being.

RVS Meta-ing.

Pie- I don't think he sounds like he's spent all of pregame spamming the scum QT

Elaborate?

Varsoon- I'll probably reevaluate this later but I haven't hated what he's posted

Why put him as town with a "prob will reevaluate later"?

bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

What. (Also why didn't Bins comment on this?)

Baffled by early-game bullshit (to be completely fair, im still baffled at why they're taking this seriously)

I'm questioning your logic because I don't get your reasoning.

Always a good thing to do, I guess.

bins started spamming it because I caught her

no i was just confused about the massive hydra

also i'm about as fluffy as you on a sunday morning
and it's all your fault

Well you could start by fixing that.
Unless you're scum then you can start by dying so we can get a head start.

and you didn't see "are you town" as an invitation to work together?

cos that's what it was

Nope I didn't, when i think of reach outs i think of like a paragraph or a wall text like the stuff i once said to town where i was hard defending scumcho or when i reached out to notty in touhou upick 2, Not just a simple "Are you town?" there's no emotion in that to be reach out.

Opinion!posting, kinda content.

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MORE FLUFF:

People that i'm going to have trouble sorting out: Varsoon, Titus.
Probably

That sounds pretty effective.

The only issue i see with it is that by the time you sort her, she's kind of... dead but I suppose to each their own.

Sakura, why do you think NS was run up so quick but the game is stillbehaving like RVS for the most part?

Because people don't seem to want to analyse or question? That's my guess.

No its because notsci huge wagon on early d1 is nothing unusual.

It doesnt seem that normal to me, why did you decide to vote there instead of leaving your partner's vote on me who was clearly waiting for me to react?

Unvote
Vote: notty

There he's at L-1 can we drop the RVS now?

Unvote
Vote: Team 9

Tbh i find you harder to read than pieguy GiF

I'm falling for an obvious trap ain't i

Unvote
Vote: Bins

Also GiF Most AltSlippery Player of the game. (MAP) oh hey that sounds... cool i guess.

Can't say I'm not interested in the wagon, so might as well...

P-Edit: Pieguy, GiF, ffery, hanasawa?

lolwut

Why do you have 9 heads

lmfao

Me, pieguy, natirasha, hanasawa, fery, kuribo, nacho, thenewearth, and Varsoon for future member :3

-C

I guess Apocalypse has some competition.

Oh. How do I know this isn't one of scum-Gif's tricks to buddy me like Scum gif always does?

Leap of Faith obviously.

You mean Leap of Fate right?

hey bitmap rvs is over

"Help me Bitmap!"

For some reason this made me picture Bins going "TATSUKETE! EIRIIIN!!!!"

(Oh also, thank you for reminding me of mutiny on pieguy)

You're really gonna do it aren't you

The fuck happened to this game

-Rumia

I Happened.

Because ns is obvtown.

MAN WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME

Because i am here and scum shall fear my wrath!

Or so i would like to say... but I'm not always right sooooo

Let me help you:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32374
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44023

Totally relevant.

No you're supposed to link the IOSYS one, people are supposed to work hard to find the original.

(attitude is scummy)

its more because im wondering why the fuck when i play a game with you someone says "he's obvtown"

Because he's obvtown! What don't you get from that.

lol my first scumgame was more like me being derp, dat nostalgia.

this is indeed kind of a stretch, but that's not the point. why was your response to my reach out to alienate yourself from me right from the get go? this is not what I was expecting from you, especially given you told me you really wanted to play another game with me.

I didn't see it as a reach out, i saw it as a "OMG PIEGUY'S BEING WEIRD" kind of stuff.

ITT: pieguy actually makes me feel bad for voting him...

how was it not obvious it was a reach out? what did you think I was going for instead?

Well i don't know, I'd expect a reach out to be a "Let's work together and beat the crap out of scum!" instead of a "Here let me vote you and ask you if you're town".

Tho it is true that i actually wanted to play together with you and this is what i do, now i feel bad

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SERIOUS-ISH POSTS INCOMING:

Nope I didn't, when i think of reach outs i think of like a paragraph or a wall text like the stuff i once said to town where i was hard defending scumcho or when i reached out to notty in touhou upick 2, Not just a simple "Are you town?" there's no emotion in that to be reach out.

what's your current thoughts on tn?

-Rumia

My current thoughts is that I didn't like his wall. Nor the fact that he ended the wall with no conclusions but with a joke.

There weren't really any conclusions to be made other than the fact that this game is a mockery of Mafia.

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The game is still in RVS and yet you accuse ME of not having substance?

It isn't a question of whether the game is in RVS or not, it's a question of whether YOU are in RVS or not, because most people clearly aren't.

>blames me for being in rvs mode on my first post in the game

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What do you think of what we've heard from bins all game

Cutesy defense or actually trying

Ehhh neither tbh, i just feel lots of fluff and a bit of content every here and there, like sparkles of spices in the middle of a sugar-like ISO. Oh wait... guess that makes it the former.

Everyone else is doing exactly the same fucking thing. Why single out Bins?

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And evidently decides to joke towards Bins statements, which is making me think that both are teammates and now Bins is trying to distance...

Mind backing this up with proof?

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you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person. although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

I'm thinking is more of the "He selectively grabbed fluff post quotes and avoided the content ones then decided to complain about the lack of content"

There wasn't really any serious content to grab.
Like I said earlier, this is a mockery of what Mafia is supposed to be.

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How the fuck is bins at L-2?

Does anyone have non-RVS reasons for voting her?

We've already pointed out several non RVS reasons, go back and read.

And yet you don't cite or link to them, leading me to believe you WANT your few points to be lost in the mire of bullshit.

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Also does anyone else find it odd that tn complains about the lack of content and he doesn't generate any?

Does anyone find it odd that you're voting me for asking you to clarify where this content is?

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If you aren't actually interested in playing with me, then give me one good reason why I shouldn't replace out now so I don't have to deal with your bullshit.

Here's a reason:

Unvote
Vote: tn

Now there's actual pressure on you. Oh, and so you don't misunderstand it as RVS

THIS IS A SERIOUS VOTE

Wow, this is like what, your third serious post this game? Congratulations, we might be actually playing mafia by page 50.

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Ok, so you aren't actually interested in pointing out where content happened.

I'm going to take that as you attempting to paint me as scum.

pieguy already pointed it out, it isn't our job to link you when you can just read, heck you can even comment on the things he mentioned, yet you decide to take this stance.

I asked you for a link. You refuse to provide a link.
Do you know who else denies information to the public?
Scum.

Team 9 ISO next.

[tn5421]

RVS (excused fluffposting):

vote: Sakura

thx a lot for making me join a game when I shouldn't be signing up for any games. are you town?

-Rumia

dayvig: Varsoon

-Rumia

I shall try. however I have literally 0 motivation for mafia atm, so I don't have any confidence

are you obvtown yet?

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FLUFFPOSTING:

It should be a sin to dream this big.

no comment to me dayvigging you?

this is supposed to be war

-Rumia

and they prob have a QT spy too. even though it's still a bastard role

who's the scumvig who can also become a 2nd godfather if he wants?

-Rumia

no shit. I'm still fucking mad at that setup. especially after you all lolkilled me N1

and we were totally gonna make the longest masonry ever, until that happened. I still haven't seen anyone break 300 like we did that quickly \o/

-Rumia

the best part about that mason QT was how we posted so quickly we got the post numbers to desync

I still haven't been able to do that anywhere else

I legit thought we'd break 1000 posts if we were able to keep going

is that serious?

either way, I am offended you don't trust me when we've cleaned house together previously

-Rumia

You may clean houses, but I clean toilets. I can see you're full of shit from a mile away.

serious or not serious?

bc I am actually at least somewhat serious. or semi-serious, anyway

-Rumia

got anything better then, Varsoon god-of-mafia-sama?

same with you Gaiden

top

Then why are you not voting any of them you cheeky scumfuck

-Cirno

Mostly fluff. Notscience is noncommittal as always.

The moment he reaches L-1.

-C

I'm pretty sure you're scum.

Pretty sure I'm not.
(Note to self: kill Bitmap n1 silently)

Good Avatars are avatars that I like.
GuyInPie is currently null.
Though I have Pie in the permanent "Paranoia Zone".

And that's why I'm here for, right?
I'm easy as hell to read if you know what to look for.

Sakura, why do you think NS was run up so quick but the game is stillbehaving like RVS for the most part?

Because people don't seem to want to analyse or question? That's my guess.

No its because notsci huge wagon on early d1 is nothing unusual.

-C

If it's not unusual why did you have to say so?

hi guys

--Mystia

Varsoon is a charming guy and pie suck at making a good RVS vote.

Oh hi fery it's about time you chime in

>implying rulebreaking

To be fair, I appreciate being the third wheel so I can drop in whenever I feel.

-M

>rulebreaking

sorry that was too many caps, people will realize I'm not ffery.

Pie's way too srs to make the best random vote.
The list of head is in the OP.

We're Cirno, Rumia and Mystia at the moment!

But don't tell Feirei that!

I'm the long-lost third member tee hee hee.

-M

(Plus fery and kuribo)

(Plus fery and kuribo)

Right, sorry, forgot them.

But seriously, I have a varying degrees of townreads on Dave guy, flubber, notsci, and Titus.

P-Edit: when I'm in hydra, people tend to not read me and try to read my hydra partner instead (without much accuracy), so that's my first "hi guys I exist too" post.

Most of this is fluff, but includes some reads. 1/10 effort.

Tbh, with this playerlist, it's not a surprise if the RVS reaches 15+ pages

You mean the fact that you're in the playerlist?

You should be grateful that I'm even posting at this point because that's not what I promised with pie when we hydra'd. I was supposed to be at the background and let pieguy do all the work.

-C

Serious about what?

Exactly.

Tbh i find you harder to read than pieguy GiF

But what about me?

-M

*banhammer*

Dammit mystia

Dammit Cirno!

The mod has banished me to the Shadow Realm!

Goodbye woooorrrrrrrlllllldddddd!

-M

;-;

-C

VOTE: Bins

asfsafsafsafsafhadh aetsaf sadfas

No it's MVP for most visageous player. (Is visageous even a word?)

Which one?
This one or MVP?

Because this one technically has 9 heads while MVP is only 3.

-C

lolwut

Why do you have 9 heads

lmfao

Me, pieguy, natirasha, hanasawa, fery, kuribo, nacho, thenewearth, and Varsoon for future member :3

-C

Currently only 2. Third one has posted but he was banished into the shadow realm.

-C

As I said, third head posted.

P-Edit: yes.

Varsoon's town.
You touch him, I cast Icicle Fall ~Easy~ on you.

-C

No pie is Rumia.

Mystia was... someone else lol

Oh. How do I know this isn't one of scum-Gif's tricks to buddy me like Scum gif always does?

Leap of Faith obviously.

hey bitmap rvs is over

"Help me Bitmap!"

Yeah I fucked up that vote because I misspelled "leap of faith".
But I was too late when I realized that.
(Oh also, thank you for reminding me of mutiny on pieguy)

The fuck happened to this game

-Rumia

@270 : Excluded because of video.

a

Let me introduce you to notsci's scumgame...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=28540

/runs

-C

and I don't like the way flubber jumped onto that wagon either

-Rumia

Fluff. Why don't you like the way Flubber joined a wagon?

Well i don't know, I'd expect a reach out to be a "Let's work together and beat the crap out of scum!" instead of a "Here let me vote you and ask you if you're town".

and you didn't see "are you town" as an invitation to work together?

cos that's what it was

-Rumia

I wanna vote tn. that wall has literally nothing of substance in it

-Rumia

So does 90% of your post history, as evidenced by this post.

2

macho

doctors

I personally didnt like his cherrypichking

where was he cherrypicking? I can't find it

-Rumia

Like the only thing i remember of him related to mafia is him linking an ongoing mafia game on irc mafia and me getting mad about it and that's about it...

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?auth ... 8&t=199573

not too focused on it bc #lolmeta, but there it is

it's literally right above you

-Rumia

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ALT-SLIPPING:

VOTE: Bins

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ACTUAL CONTENT (now with 100% orange juice):

legit townread on dave

discuss

-Rumia

I'm null.

do you think a newb scum who almost certainly is in his 1st game would post smth like this:

Feel free to post incriminating evidence so that I may use it against you later.

immediately when the game starts?

rather, the entire opening came across as open in a way that gave me town vibes. it's possible but it seems unlikely a newb scum could fake that right off the bat.

get on my level n00b

He/She could have hundreds of games of offsite experience. You're the fool if you don't take every player seriously, at least until they prove you shouldn't.

Notscience wagon is hot.
I'm not getting any answer to my question and notsci is bouncing around into conversations without dedicating heavily to them.
Then again, that's fairly null. Still, it's a good excuse to park a vote and squeeze a guy.

since when was not answering a question that's not supposed to be serious a good excuse for squeezing a guy?

also I'm not sure what you even mean by the 2nd point. where is NS doing that?

-Rumia

That's notscience being notscience as far as anyone can tell.

@ 83: Too big to quote, but extension of above quote.

why?

Gut.
And my gutread on Varsoon is never wrong.

-C

That was when I tried to logic-read you~

Always mix the two. Best results.

After those two games I learned that my gut read is far more superior to my logic read.

@255 Naked votes are not okay.

RECAP OF PREVIOUS EVENTS SO FAR BECAUSE I'M A NICE GUY

- Wild "Mystia" appears and soon shunned to shadow realm.
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VOTE: Bins

WAGON HO

But seriously, she's scum

But notsci, you lovable piece of town you, why is she scum?

Because she's avoided talking about anything and is avoiding the thread

and she insulted my honor

But on a more serious note, townreading atm-

Pie- I don't think he sounds like he's spent all of pregame spamming the scum QT

Varsoon- I'll probably reevaluate this later but I haven't hated what he's posted

dave- Because gif said so and pie seemed town so he gets to be town

bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

-

bulge- Because obv is bins is scum he is town

What. (Also why didn't Bins comment on this?)

-

(because it's a joke and i just laughed)

-*ppl votes Bins*

-*shit happens*

You're welcome.

Halfass recap, better than nothing i guess.

I have NS and dave as town. my original dave townread was kind of a bullshit reaching reason in order to try and get the game away from RVS, but both me and GIF liked his 3rd post. Sakura is null-town, but there was smth that pinged me:

I dunno I found him opening with a vote and asking me if i'm town kinda awkward, I'd think pie would omit the "Are you town?" part and just wait for a reaction, It maaay be a bit of a stretch, but that's what I'm going with for the time being.

this is indeed kind of a stretch, but that's not the point. why was your response to my reach out to alienate yourself from me right from the get go? this is not what I was expecting from you, especially given you told me you really wanted to play another game with me.

-Rumia

Oh my god actual analysis?
As noted by Sakura earlier, it's because of HOW you reached out; it looks noeffort/scum rather than town.

I didn't see it as a reach out, i saw it as a "OMG PIEGUY'S BEING WEIRD" kind of stuff.

how was it not obvious it was a reach out? what did you think I was going for instead?

-Rumia

Laziness would be my assumption.

tn what the hell are you trying to accomplish with anything in that wall? I'm used to you providing content when you're town. that wall has 0.

-Rumia

You're not exactly innocent yourself. Your post history is 85-90% fluff.

Nope I didn't, when i think of reach outs i think of like a paragraph or a wall text like the stuff i once said to town where i was hard defending scumcho or when i reached out to notty in touhou upick 2, Not just a simple "Are you town?" there's no emotion in that to be reach out.

what's your current thoughts on tn?

-Rumia

Sure, have someone else do your thinking for you so you can get back to fluffposting. I don't see how people see this and don't think "scum".

The game is still in RVS and yet you accuse ME of not having substance?

there are several things that have happened that aren't RVS

-Sakura's scum read on me
-Bins wagon and the way various ppl interacted with it
-most of the ppl have legitimate content
-our reads are all serious

so, try again

-Rumia

thispost.dll

My current thoughts is that I didn't like his wall. Nor the fact that he ended the wall with no conclusions but with a joke.

how does this fit into your meta view of tn?

I hate to bring up #lolmeta but, iirc, when tn's been town previously he's had no problem spinning content out of RVS and trying to drive the game forward. the exact opposite of this game where he seems to be content with having no content and floating along (not to mention, he completely missed everything that actually did happen).

This game has less content than a grocery cart with $20 worth of groceries in it. I'm not the best at creating something from nothing.

you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person.

although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

By that logic, the very existience of this game is scummy because there is nothing of real substance here.

So now it seems like YOU are cherrypicking.

Which is it?

there are several things that have happened that aren't RVS

-Sakura's scum read on me
-Bins wagon and the way various ppl interacted with it
-most of the ppl have legitimate content
-our reads are all serious

try again

-Rumia

Leaving this here for when you inevitably bitch at me for posting content.

Also does anyone else find it odd that tn complains about the lack of content and he doesn't generate any?

^this

-Rumia

nvm tn might be town. I'd rather give him some room for now

@tn:

you've already got a summary of a lot of the content that happened. do you have any comments about any of it?

-Rumia

Flip-flopping your read because you've pissed me off enough that replacing out seems to be a decent option.

nvm tn might be town. I'd rather give him some room for now

@tn:

you've already got a summary of a lot of the content that happened. do you have any comments about any of it?

-Rumia

Here, this post.



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[tn5421]

121 isn't fluff is stating that i have trouble reading those 2.

Doesn't warrant its own post.

124 is sarcasm poking at Gaiden's idea of sorting Titus.

Doesn't warrant its own post.

126 is explaining said sarcasm.

See above

130 is me explaining something?.

Might have miscategorized that. You comment that the game is in RVS and do nothing to get it out of that, however.

133 me questioning GiF

put it there because unproductive wifom

151 me getting mad at people being still on RVS so i ended it.

Which did a whole lot of nothing to improve the quality of this game.

186 is me voting for scum bins.

I disagree on your read and the reasoning included in the post (which i read as fluff)

190 is me explaining said vote.

"I might as well". Please, I know you can play better than that. Fucking awful reasoning for non-RVS (As you claim)

263 is me stating a read.

Everyone says that everywhere, I considered it fluff/meme bullshit

271 is me helping support my read on notty.

didn't follow the links, also fuck meta

273 this is fluff, but im surprised you find that as a scummy attitude lol.

How the fuck are people supposed to learn about new things with people intentionally misdirecting them?

289 me telling pie why i didnt see his post as a reachout.

While I agree with the point, it looks/looked reactionary when I was scanning your ISO. Context would probably have helped.

296 further explanation.

There weren't really any conclusions to be made other than the fact that this game is a mockery of Mafia.

I'm starting to think the issue here is your perception of fluff.

The issue here is the lack of seriousness in this game.

>blames me for being in rvs mode on my first post in the game

I was already seriously voting pieguy when i entered the game and had a legit townread on notty, why do you think you can't do the same?

Because for me the game just started an hour or so ago.

Everyone else is doing exactly the same fucking thing. Why single out Bins?

The only people I see that still aren't being serious are you, Bins and flaffy or whatever, that's 3 and we have a scumteam of 3 this game, SURPRISE!.

Wow, 3 townies dead, scum must love having you essentially on their side.

Mind backing this up with proof?

You made a post about scumreading bins joke or not, yet you didn't vote her, and then when we pointed it out she immediately proceeded to scumreading you.

I don't scumread bins, your intentional misunderstanding is not my problem.

There wasn't really any serious content to grab.
Like I said earlier, this is a mockery of what Mafia is supposed to be.

Not really, i'm still not seeing why you see all that as fluff, as I guessed earlier, I'm starting to think the issue is your perception of fluff.

We'll see.

And yet you don't cite or link to them, leading me to believe you WANT your few points to be lost in the mire of bullshit.

Not really? they are easy to find, my ISO has very few fluff and I've already pointed out why your perception of fluff is farfetched.

And yet over 50% of your posts are fluff with less than 10% content.

Wow, this is like what, your third serious post this game? Congratulations, we might be actually playing mafia by page 50.

I am playing mafia, what game are you playing? Maybe i need to pot "SERIOUS POST" in bold on every post i'm not fluffing for you to realize people are playing the game except you?

Doing that only convinces me more that you truly aren't serious about playing.

I asked you for a link. You refuse to provide a link.
Do you know who else denies information to the public?
Scum.

Pieguy showed you the road, it's your choice to walk it or not.

And why should I take explicit information denial as anything but a scum-motivated action?

[tn5421]

do you think tn-scum would get visibly frustrated enough with you to consider replacing out?

After I got banned for doing stuff like that?

tn!any-alignment is frustrated enough to replace out.

[tn5421]

Sakura, we did this in Dummyville, it ended with you shooting Caligno (who was town)

[tn5421]

Re: Your wall to team 9
So you find his posts wrt talking with me about the reach out ok, but you call my responses that i (and apparently you) was calling him out for fluff? WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN.

I think i broke my internal filter halfway thru and said 'FUCK IT PUT IT HERE'

I actually am on your side of the whole 'reachout' thing, Team 9 could have put a lot more effort into it, which you would know if you read my replies to Team 9.

[tn5421]

_Open 569_ + _Wall Wars_ = _Yet another Setsuen wallpost_.

[tn5421]

Considering that unlike you, I've already been playing seriously from the start, and when you came in you had no intention whatsoever to move the game away from such "RVS" as you call it. Hipocrisy.

Wrong, I didn't really intend to do so right now, I was going to wait until tonight to do so. Why, you ask? So I had time to calm down and not rage@thethread.

I'm also reading your post as "I don't want you to be able to respond properly so I can call you scum" because of the way you formatted it.
If you have a problem with this, stop making it hard to tell at a glance which each comment is pointing to.

[tn5421]

If I have to do this to reply to you, you're clearly looking for an excuse to scumread me ()

For non-image-viewers, that's me using my double monitor to figure out what the fuck sakura is replying to.

Replies incoming.

[tn5421]

Doesn't warrant its own post.

Why not?

Doesn't warrant its own post.

Why not?

See above

Why not?

Because you can put them all together and then you won't be literally spamming.

Might have miscategorized that. You comment that the game is in RVS and do nothing to get it out of that, however.

Considering that unlike you, I've already been playing seriously from the start, and when you came in you had no intention whatsoever to move the game away from such "RVS" as you call it. Hipocrisy.

Already answered. Also you can't spell for shit. Hypocrisy.

put it there because unproductive wifom

What makes you feel that way? And why is it unproductive? Why is it wifom?

"It doesn't seem normal to me" barely counts as reasoning.

Which did a whole lot of nothing to improve the quality of this game.

It stopped the headless chickens that wanted to not post content because notty hadn't reached L-1.

I would say that no, it didn't actually accomplish that goal, but at least you tried. That's more than I can say for most.

I disagree on your read and the reasoning included in the post (which i read as fluff)

It's still a read and a reasoning, whether you agree with my read or not doesn't make the post fluff, instead you could have spend your time explaining why you disagree with it.

"Im falling for an obvious trap. Add otherwise naked vote without explanation."

"I might as well". Please, I know you can play better than that. Fucking awful reasoning for non-RVS (As you claim)

So is me pursuing a lynch and see how it ends "bad play"? And why do you categorize "bad play" = "fluff"? Still it's content, regardless of where you liked what was posted or not, your reluctance to analyse or question said content and instead dismiss it as fluff, is more eyebrow rising tho.

You didn't give reasoning for bins vote, as proven by my reply above.

Everyone says that everywhere, I considered it fluff/meme bullshit

What gave you this impression?

Every game I've ever been in where notscience is also a player OR replacement has followed the "oh ns isn't serious, obvtown" pattern

didn't follow the links, also fuck meta

So your logic is that you dont like meta = meta related posts are fluff? Sorry but nope. Try again.

No, you did an IIoA post. Why don't YOU try again?

How the fuck are people supposed to learn about new things with people intentionally misdirecting them?

What makes you think im intentionally misdirecting them when i was obviously commenting on GiF's video of posting an old touhou song?

Your attitude in doing so reveals that you don't care that he is intentionally misdirecting people, which is IRLscummy/not exactly game relevant.

While I agree with the point, it looks/looked reactionary when I was scanning your ISO. Context would probably have helped.

So in turn you didn't actually read the thread... GOOD JOB! I did read the fucking thread.

Please invent more talking points.

The issue here is the lack of seriousness in this game.

If you see that as an issue, what are YOU doing to fix it?

Wallposting.

Because for me the game just started an hour or so ago.

Well that was your choice, not mine.

You call sleep a choice? Are you fucking serious?

Wow, 3 townies dead, scum must love having you essentially on their side.

While i was being snarky with that response, what makes you so confident that both Bins and Flaffy are town?

Because historically your reads are unreliable on day one. inb4 meta hate (chaos in dummyville) is my source.

And yet over 50% of your posts are fluff with less than 10% content.

As much as you want to call them fluff doesn't make them so.

Just because your posts contain approximately 10% content doesn't mean your posts have a lot of content when the other 90% is fluff.

Doing that only convinces me more that you truly aren't serious about playing.

No, im just calling you out on the irony that the only post that i said "SERIOUS VOTE" you deemed as serious, which is laughable and funny.

No, if you actually read my reply you would see that I do not, in fact, believe you were serious about it. That would actually take a 5th grader's level of English comprehension, however. Something you don't always seem to possess.

And why should I take explicit information denial as anything but a scum-motivated action?

Because it is assume you've read the thread, and should've reached the same conclusion wrt the ammount of fluff on it as everyone else if you actually did, but since you didn't it is assume that you're just scum skimming through the thread and want people to do the legwork for you.

I asked you for relevant links to what you were talking about and you didn't provide. It's clear from me ISOing you that you were hoping to hide your hypocrisy in calling others out on fluffposting from me when you did so.

[tn5421]

also lol @ finding it hard which point is a reply to when i replied to them in the exact same order that they appeared *shrug*

You intentionally didn't include the source post.

VOTE: Sakura Hana

[tn5421]

so, can someone tell me why Bert just voted me and ran off again?

Because its less damning than the other events that have taken place so far.

I will make a note of this, however. It IS suspicious, after all.

[tn5421]

For someone who plays on IRC you sure have a weird issue with people posting 1 liners

THIS ISNT FUCKING IRC

If you don't have the time to write relatively decent posts you NEVER should have started playing forum!mafia/stopped playing irc!mafia.

The End.

[tn5421]

Lemme ask a question

What do you "play"?

Forum Mafia
IRC Mafia
Skype Mafia
100% Orange Juice (Still 100% mad about bitmap beating me :<)
Dota 2
League of Legends
Mass Effect 1/2
Osu!
CounterStrike:GlobalOffensive
HAWKEN
Final Fantasy 1-10
Audiosurf
Defender's Quest: Valley of the Forgotten
Path of Exile
Civilization 5
Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Terraria
SMITE
Visual Novels (too many to name)
The Binding of Isaac
FTL: Faster Than Light
Ys I & II
Dungeon Defenders
Killing Floor
Saints Row The Third
Starcraft II
and other stuff i've forgotten over the past decade or so

[tn5421]

hey tn

Sure, have someone else do your thinking for you so you can get back to fluffposting. I don't see how people see this and don't think "scum".

1. we're not fluffposting at this point. everything after 295 that you pointed out was serious.
2. what's the scum motivation in fluff posting? I can see scum hiding behind it, but we have a shitton of content. like, do you apparently think we're scum who's deliberately fluff posting for whatever reason?
3. why do you think we're letting someone else do our thinking for us? if you were reading the thread (or even our ISO in any depth), you would know that I

just posted my thoughts on you right before asking Sakura.

also, fluff posting isn't alignment indicative, even if it pisses you off.

I don't see the need to respond to the rest of the post bc it doesn't look like you thought through it at all, so this is as much of a reach out as you'll get from me. if you're town, you're on the wrong track.

-Rumia

One of your heads admitted to extending RVS for no reason at all, so yes, I'm accusing you of fluffposting more than necessary.
One medium content post does not excuse dozens of fluffposts. Yes you did make a halfass post right before I ISO'd Sakura, and if you were paying any attention at all you'd see that I replied to it.

[tn5421]

I want you to know that I replaced out of Micro 333 due to fluffposting on behalf of Marquis.

If you think I'm joking, I'm not.

I wouldn't have even played this game if I wasn't explicitly asked to by the mod.

[tn5421]

Oh shit, 443 was supposed to have the link.

Here it is.
( http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=50093 )

[tn5421]

Is this really necessary?

[tn5421]

Bins + notscience, I'm looking at you here.

[tn5421]

My hydra with Bert is Perpetual Nonsense. it is quite fluffy.

Do you mean Perpetually Nonsensical? ( http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=23837 )

[tn5421]

Because you can put them all together and then you won't be literally spamming.

Not really? I post stuff as It goes through my head, I don't wait for it, besides Gaiden commented between those 2 posts, why do you call it spamming?

Because it is.

Already answered. Also you can't spell for shit. Hypocrisy.

Already answered? really? Then you're going to have to show me exactly how that post is me doing nothing to get out of it, because i see it otherwise. And idc if i can't spell?

So you ignored me answering this question, which was the question directly above this one in 409

Why don't you ISO the thread?

"It doesn't seem normal to me" barely counts as reasoning.

It's me taking a stance, the post is still not fluff, regardless of you thinking that it has no reasoning, "not seeming normal" obviously means it's something "abnormal" or something "out of the ordinary", yet you obviously decide to ignore this fact.

And yet you never explain why you believe this to be so.

I would say that no, it didn't actually accomplish that goal, but at least you tried. That's more than I can say for most.

Ok so we can now agree that, It was my intention to get people to stop being in RVS, so why is it a fluff post?

I made a couple of mistakes with my categorization, because I didn't proofread. I apologize.

"Im falling for an obvious trap. Add otherwise naked vote without explanation."

And who would react to such post and in what way? Town or Scum?

Scum generally have to fabricate reasons for votes they want taken seriously.

You didn't give reasoning for bins vote, as proven by my reply above.

My reasoning was well explained, I wanted to pursue the wagon further and see where it went, it just happened to land on scum.

No, you didn't really give any.

Every game I've ever been in where notscience is also a player OR replacement has followed the "oh ns isn't serious, obvtown" pattern

But I only say that when I'm townreading notty, there are times when I dont townread him right off the bat, there are times where i rethink that read, it's still a stance, whether you think it's a meme or not (Well it might be considering Mistakes Upick, but oh well details)

See below point, don't think this needs seperate responses anymore since basically the same point now.

No, you did an IIoA post. Why don't YOU try again?

So me showing notty's scum games to show that this isn't his scum meta is IIoA? since when?

Because all you did was link his scumgames without saying what he did that made you decide he wasn't scum. Lots of unoriginal content with no input from you = the very definition of IIoA

Your attitude in doing so reveals that you don't care that he is intentionally misdirecting people, which is IRLscummy/not exactly game relevant.

What makes you think that someone posting a song is misdirecting people... srsly?

It's not the posting of the song, it's your attitude towards "making people search for the original". I want to clarify that this point has nothing to do with the game.

Please invent more talking points.

No comment, you're already falling over your own guilt.

>no comment
>proceeds to comment
Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Wallposting.

So your idea for a fix is to post a contentless wall where all you do is complain about people and not do anything to fix it?

Are you saying that we aren't posting content?

You call sleep a choice? Are you fucking serious?

It was your choice to call everything fluff and not take part in the game whether it was 1 hour or 10 days ago that you started playing it, it doesnt matter.

This game came out of confirmation while I was asleep. Are you really going continue to argue this point with me?

Because historically your reads are unreliable on day one. inb4 meta hate (chaos in dummyville) is my source.

So am I scum, or town with bad reads, pick a side already. Also my reads aren't right all the time, im just calling out on the fact that the only people who had done nothing this game at this point were those 3, since you're calling out on people who've done nothing this game as scum and this game has 3 scum, guess what conclusion did i come to.

If you are town, your reads are bad. If you are scum, your reads are (intentionally) bad.

Just because your posts contain approximately 10% content doesn't mean your posts have a lot of content when the other 90% is fluff.

As I said, your definition of content is apparently everything that YOU don't like so... *shrug*. If you don't want to analyze content you don't like and dismiss it as fluff that's your issue, not mine.

"lol bins" doesn't count as content, I don't care how you frame it.

No, if you actually read my reply you would see that I do not, in fact, believe you were serious about it. That would actually take a 5th grader's level of English comprehension, however. Something you don't always seem to possess.

Yet you don't seem to comprehend that fluff =/= posts you dont like.

And yet you still failed to accurately reply to my points in places. You also failed to notice that I did mention I miscategorized because I didn't proof check my own writing. But keep clinging to your intentional misunderstanding if it makes you feel better.

I asked you for relevant links to what you were talking about and you didn't provide. It's clear from me ISOing you that you were hoping to hide your hypocrisy in calling others out on fluffposting from me when you did so.

I've already debunked all your "Fluff posting" theories, which means you're only matching posts to make them fit to your fluff posting that you were complaining about initially, and the only way you're keeping this act up is to make people think that you really thought those posts were fluff.

And you still continue to ignore or misconstrue my counterpoints. It's clear you didn't completely read any of my replies.

also lol @ finding it hard which point is a reply to when i replied to them in the exact same order that they appeared *shrug*

You intentionally didn't include the source post.

VOTE: Sakura Hana

I highlight to quote the relevant questions or parts of posts I'm answering, it's your choice to do things that way and people can easily follow post links to know where they lead, heck to answer your first wall where you ISO'd me i had to work with 2 tabs on my browser and i'm not complaining about it.

ITT: Look at how tn will complain about me "misleading people by not completely quoting his wall" again.

You didn't highlight anything. I had to search the thread to even figure out what you were even talking about. As I said before, only scum have things to hide from town, and you certainly act like you have something to hide.

[tn5421]

"FUCK YOU ALL, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT I'M NOT LYING -Self-Hammer-"

ftr This actually happened
And it's one of the reasons i've been pursuing change since then.

You self-hammer as town.
Are we in the same reality right now?
In what world is self-hammering as town a good thing?

[tn5421]

If you don't have the time to write relatively decent posts you NEVER should have started playing forum!mafia/stopped playing irc!mafia.

So I heard that the playstyle attack should be returned with a playstyle attack.

I was lynched as town for my playstyle.
I'm still a bit salty about it.

[tn5421]

you and I must have different definitions of cherrypicking. mine is when someone selectively applies logic to one person but not another person. although I do agree the lack of of anything substantial is scummy

-Rumia

I'm thinking is more of the "He selectively grabbed fluff post quotes and avoided the content ones then decided to complain about the lack of content"

I read this as a personal challenge. I think I've proved my point.

[tn5421]

Yeah, but before would lead me to things like early claims, self voting and self hammering, which dont help town at all, or the worst of all, replace outs which ended up in being the reason for me being banned. So still wasn't good, and I'm nice as long as people don't pull out BS cases which enjoy ripping apart (like tn's)

P-Edit: @Bins: They became more town, and tbf, i felt bad about ignoring pieguy's reachout.
P-Edit2: @tn: Before i reply to that, have you ever tried highlight a portion of text with your mouse and clicking the quote button on that window? That's what i do to reply to stuff, it's easier than quoting the whole thing and cutting irrelevant parts of questions not directed at me, etc. When you post stuff with your replies inside of it, it makes it harder for me to reply without highlighting, because this ignores formatting.

I have multiquote disabled because it seems to result in posts being formatted like this:

person a said stuff

person a said stuff

person a said stuff

person a said stuff

person a said stuff

person a said stuff

person a said stuff

(actual content here)

And that is the saga of multi-quote being disabled. I have some examples in my earlier games that I can link if you want proof.

[tn5421]

I'm still a bit salty about it.

You should've been. That was my second policy lynch ever.
While I appreciate that you're trying to fix that, being an elitist is no way to fix any playstyle, ever.

I was making an observation. You guys called me out. I backed it up with facts (this game, not the osu game).
I'm not sure if you've even replied to my wall toward you yet, I'll look and get back to it if you did.

[tn5421]

About the osu game, I LOL'd when you guys assumed that "get on what what you're going to do anyway" was a scumclaim.

You (assumed town at the time)had already decided that I was scum and nothing I said would have cleared me.
I was doing my best to bait the scum into quickhammering me so town would get suspicious of them.

@notscience: No, that's detailing the misfunction of Q+ on my system. It does that to me when I try to use it.

[tn5421]

Because it is.

It seems like you're running out of ammo, no need to comment on this.

If you say so.

So you ignored me answering this question, which was the question directly above this one in 409 Why don't you ISO the thread?

Why didn't YOU read the thread? Still blatantly ignoring my replies to you?

What am I, Setsuen?

And yet you never explain why you believe this to be so.

But you never asked, instead you dismissed it as a fluff post, once again.

Why do I need to have asked for you to explain your reasoning?

I made a couple of mistakes with my categorization, because I didn't proofread. I apologize.

Ok... except your whole "ISO of me" is just a big mistake in categorization

It may have been at that. I was really mad IRL when I made this list.

Scum generally have to fabricate reasons for votes they want taken seriously.

Scum generally have to poke holes in other people's arguments, oh wait but that's what I'm doing! MAYBE I AM SCUM WITH A TOWN ROLE PM! Bzzzt! If you think i'm fabricating a reason, you'd think i'd do better than that, so why dont you like that vote?

I've told you already that you aren't backing it up with reasons. At least, reasons that aren't "lol bins is scummy".

No, you didn't really give any.

Ok Let's see:

Can't say I'm not interested in the wagon

, so might as well...

Proved wrong, next!

Whatever this is on its own does not qualify as a reason. Maybe you should provide context?

Because all you did was link his scumgames without saying what he did that made you decide he wasn't scum. Lots of unoriginal content with no input from you = the very definition of IIoA

But someone did ask for his scumgames? or did you forget to read again.

If you can prove this, I'll let this point go.

It's not the posting of the song, it's your attitude towards "making people search for the original". I want to clarify that this point has nothing to do with the game.

The original was the one that was posted, so 1) how am i making people search for the original and 2) Why would people go and search for a certain song just because I commented on it and 3) Why is it bad that people have a life outside of a mafia thread where perhaps they are interested in listening to a certain song? and 4) Why am i scum for that?

Please continue to ignore that I said this isn't an in-game issue. With that being said, your attitude in not sharing the information you have at your disposal when asked is scummy, and not in a "you got a scum role pm" way, in a "you're a (expletive)" way

>no comment
>proceeds to comment
Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

No Comment.

Ok.

Are you saying that we aren't posting content?

303 wasn't content.

Neither is 246

This game came out of confirmation while I was asleep. Are you really going continue to argue this point with me?

But that's not the point i'm arguing? the point i'm arguing is that you came into this game doing nothing while complaining about others doing nothing, being late or soon to the game has no excuse for this.

This has absolutely no relevance to your previous argument on the subject, so I'm going to assume you're BSing this at this point.

If you are town, your reads are bad. If you are scum, your reads are (intentionally) bad.

And you focus on this instead of on the fact that my reads were a copy/paste of notty's? Why aren't you calling him out on it then? Why aren't you even noticing what's going on in the game (Tho notty's a townread of me and I agree with his reads, but the fact that you dont look like you're actually paying attention to what your main scumread is going bothers me)

notscience knows what I think of his reads.

"lol bins" doesn't count as content, I don't care how you frame it.

Whoever said that?

You implied this in 186

And yet you still failed to accurately reply to my points in places. You also failed to notice that I did mention I miscategorized because I didn't proof check my own writing. But keep clinging to your intentional misunderstanding if it makes you feel better.

Except if you were really scumhunting instead of falsely accusing someone of being scum you would've actually read the thread instead of quoting a bunch of posts and call them "fluff" to fit your reasoning, normally town comes with the reasoning from reading the thread, scum makes a reasoning and makes their posts fit such reasoning.

Are you still harping on about this after I've already explained? Simply don't respond to me again if you're serious about this so we can all get back to scumhunting instead of you deliberately pissing me off / generating walls

so scum have an excuse to lurk it out.

(and this is assuming you aren't scum yourself, which I'm not convinced of

AT ALL

.

And you still continue to ignore or misconstrue my counterpoints. It's clear you didn't completely read any of my replies.

While it's clear you haven't read the thread.

Stop harping on this point, I think I've read the thread more than everyone except for possibly the moderator at this point.

You didn't highlight anything. I had to search the thread to even figure out what you were even talking about. As I said before, only scum have things to hide from town, and you certainly act like you have something to hide.

I've already explained this before replying to everything. But i'm not talking about "multi quote" im talking about "quote" why did you assume it was the former instead of trying what i told you? And why is that it is my style of quoting things on MS for like forever makes me scum?

"I've already explained this"
If you want to deliberately ignore things I have said, that is your perogative. But every time you do you lose more and more credibility.

For anyone that doesn't get the reference:

Welcome to Mismatched Flavor Mafia!

You are Setsuen (Vanilla Townie).

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"LOL NO. Based on CB's playingstyle D1 I expected that he was "telling the truth"on his post of how he won when "his scumbuddy got lynched D1"assuming that this is true, CB D1 playstyle was being survivalistic(stopped arguing with me because of scum points), getting an easy lynch(me) AND preventing association with the Myth. With this you're off the list so overall there only Sakura,Leader & DD left.

Sakura is suspicious because DD nicely answered all her questions. HOWEVER, CB placed her down as the 2nd most scummiest(we all know CB needed 2mislynch at D3 & 4 to win). So it will depend on whether CB actually even scum readed Sakura AT ALL on D2. Her 180turn..I still don't believe that that was true ESPECIALLY since I think it was after CB's post stating that he was earning scumpoints? It DOESN'T help matters at all that CB said that Myth is likely to be on Nav's wagon than mine. Excluding me, Sakura is the ONLY person who was on my wagon D1. Add that 180turn in and things looks bad for her.

Leader is suspicious. CB only practically went for Leader only ONCE the entire D1. The oh I didn't see that Leader claimed PR could have been faked D2. Since D2 is a possible day where CB decided to change his style a little(Stopped going for me D2 & possibly try to disassociate himself from the Myth) At the same time, CB DID go for Leader & kevin for starting the Nav wagon.

DD is suspicious because CB literally speed town-readed DD. Then proceeded to NEVER question DD at all. This feels like disassociation. At the same time, DD post don't have any inconsistencies NOR anything to point her out as scum unlike Leader's roleclaim & Sakura's 180turn.

Now we all know that GIF & Irre HAVE to be town. So it MIGHT be possible that CB is trynig to associate town with each other or something. I know I'm town, so if Gumcia is town it's possible that he did somewhat associate town with each other. If this was the case, Leader is the Myth. There's the possibility that he placed Scum with one of the town too which might explain why Dake & Sakura are suspecting each other.

Well this kind of makes DD suspicious unless CB is bussing......... but we all know from D1 that he wasn't bussing anyone since he was basically only attacking me <.< teh only bus he could have made, would be on his D3 reads. Which is why we must search for... who became from pro-town to scum/ scum to pro-town.(from D1 - D3)

tl:dr- Sakura & Leader are both suspicious because of their actions(Late roleclaim, 180Turn), DD is suspicious because CB never even tried to go for him and instead, stayed as far away from DD as much as possible.

Also, Based on the order of who voted in the Irre lynch, there's only two option. Myth joined last, Sakura/Leader OR Myth just decided to sit back and watch town fumble DD. The 2nd option is... well less possible. The probability of the 2nd one happening is the probability of Leader being Myth because 3PRs got killed in a row(kevin and Nav did not say they were PR so basically all NK) the chances of Leader being myth might well be = chances of 3PRs getting killed in 3consecutive night which is=3/8(excluding me because I was obv VT)*2/8(Nav possible scum got lynched)*1/7(kevin got lynched). I would say that the chances of that is pretty low.

Sakura is the MOST suspicious one right now, followed by Leader then DD. I might move Gumica back up the scum list if I ever get the feeling that CB was bussing somehow...... but since Nav(most likely scum) got lynched D1 I have no idea how to determine if CB ever adopted the bussing scheme."

-Setsuen, in Lupus in Tabula. All in one post.

lolSetsuen

Just like all other normal players, you get the vote and stuff.

You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.

[tn5421]

Bulge

Who's this guy?

Also I had a feeling that Bert doesn't care about Bins

The Bulge is a modding alt of DonJosh.

[tn5421]

Wait a minute.
Is anyone townreading Bins in this game?

TN said the wagon was bad but idk what the read is.

I'm moderately scumreading Sakura and I'm null-slightlyleaningtown on Bins.

[tn5421]

Like for the first time in a long time, I REALLY WANT TO DEFEND MYSELF. But you guys are seriously not giving me as single thing to defend against.

Exactly my point of contention with this entire game.

[tn5421]

Scum
Sakura

Null
notscience
Varsoon
Flubber
bitmap
(anyone not explicitly mentioned)

Slightly Town
Bins
Team 9

[tn5421]

On the other hand, Team 9, your vote on bins is why my townread on you is weak.

@sakura: I am voting for my scumread.

[tn5421]

Scum
Sakura

If I say "Hey I can read Sakura much better than you do and I say she's town so kindly back off and sheep me or I will use my 'Icicle Fall -Easy-' on you", will that change your mind?

Because I'm very good at pointing out TvT and TvS.

P-Edit: What's the point of me moving my vote when pieguy's gonna put it back in? We need to get together and consolidate before we move our vote. I already have someone in mind.

-C

No. Sakura accused me of not participating, and continues to do so.

She's asking for me to death tunnel.

[tn5421]

@543 You've made it abundantly clear that you aren't really reading my replies when they stray outside of your agenda, so you can forget me replying to your walls until you stop.

[tn5421]

@543 You've made it abundantly clear that you aren't really reading my replies when they stray outside of your agenda, so you can forget me replying to your walls until you stop.

Read: "I can't counter her points anymore because she's right"

You want me to help you distract others from scumhunting, so you bait me with this.

No.

[tn5421]

@Sakura:
Bins wasn't asking for links to scumgames in 267. she stated that she was "reading notscience scum games". No mention of needing help to find them.
I'll take that as a freudian slip.

I shouldn't have to ask you to explain your reasoning for you to post your reasoning. Withholding information is primarily scum-motivated.

Thanks for misconstruing once more. I was angry when I made that list so things didn't get sorted into that list correctly. No more, no less. Then again, you need me to look scummy, don't you?

I still have yet to see your reasoning on Bins. Link to a post if you aren't lying.

At this point, you're making it impossible to focus on anyone else. Which is why nothing else is getting done.

[tn5421]

I still have no idea what I did to start this wagon on me.

I explained it before, you did nothing, never did anything, that's why the wagon started.

Finally you explain this. It only took 300 posts or so.

[tn5421]

btw I agree with GIF. Sakura is 99% town and anyone who thinks otherwise should just sheep us.

-Rumia

Anyone who disagrees with you should sheep you? :S It's shit like this that makes me think you are scum. You lack anything close to logical consistency.

Sakura is obviously town, but no one should sheep because they DISAGREE.

Are you even paying attention to the game, Titus?

[tn5421]

@Sakura:
Bins wasn't asking for links to scumgames in 267. she stated that she was "reading notscience scum games". No mention of needing help to find them.
I'll take that as a freudian slip.

Well I helped her find them because she wanted them.

She never asked for your help, and I dare you to link to a post proving otherwise

I shouldn't have to ask you to explain your reasoning for you to post your reasoning. Withholding information is primarily scum-motivated.

Really? I could've sworn im town and doing it this game... WHAT A SHOCK!

I highly doubt you got a Town Role PM. And if you did, you should start acting like it.

Thanks for misconstruing once more. I was angry when I made that list so things didn't get sorted into that list correctly. No more, no less. Then again, you need me to look scummy, don't you?

I did tell you, you're either wrong or scum, which one is it? because it's clear the only player here who's believing you is Bins who's also being pegged as scum by me, so excuse me if i have a hard time believing you're not buddies.

You obviously need me to look scummy, are you even trying to back up your argument with logic anymore or are you just AtEing?

I still have yet to see your reasoning on Bins. Link to a post if you aren't lying.

i havent really done anything yet

And that's why you're being wagoned!!

(except youre wrong)

This statement makes me rethink everything you've done in this game!!!!

If you'll notice, I commented on this in-thread already. Keep proving that you don't

really

read the thread.

At this point, you're making it impossible to focus on anyone else. Which is why nothing else is getting done.

It is not my problem if you're not looking at anyone else, unlike you, i am, and my ISO shows that, if you can't maybe you need to look again at the "how to be town when i'm scum" manual.

You're voting bins for a nonsense reason, and that's the only other person you've looked at other than notscience, which happened during rvs.

[tn5421]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=175

LIKE SERIOUSLY
LOOK AT THIS WAGON

I thought it was a fucking joke wagon.

That was my first serious vote.

And it wasn't because you didn't do anything.
It was more of because I didn't like the way you laughed off notsci's scumread on you.

notsci likes to joke around a lot. not sure if this is relevant.

[tn5421]

This is boring.

*grabs notscience*

Drink with me. It helps with back pain!

It'll make things interesting. We can dance on the table and call random people scum to get reads. You go first.

I don't get to drink for another few hours. I have to drive somewhere. Once I do that, I can drink.

Tonight will be my first-ever debut of drunkish!TN, the last time I drank anything was pre-mafia me.

[tn5421]

ITT: People think that people have to explain their votes in the post they make them.

ITT: People that love to disguise the reasons they are voting someone by not including it in the post they use to vote.

[tn5421]

Because I felt like your first reaction to the wagon was to play the cutesy defense instead of trying to convince me it was bad

It was an RVS wagon at the time, why does it matter?

[tn5421]

Hey GIF

Do you remember what you told me about how you used to get Saki lynched?

I'm really fighting the urge to use that here.

Are you claiming a trust tell?

You know that's illegal right?

[tn5421]

Hey GIF

Do you remember

what you told me

about how you used to get Saki lynched?

I'm really fighting the urge

to use that here

.

Bolded the parts I'm talking about, notscience.

[tn5421]

Ok pie let's do this

Unvote
Vote: Titus

Bins eyebrow raise is justified and titus is doing actions that dont make sense for a townie to be doing.

Other than "talk to me", I'm not sure what you mean.

[tn5421]

Wow bulge, bins is talking to you.

clearly bulge is scum. /s

[tn5421]

Tn why the fuck are you voting SH?

Read the thread

[tn5421]

Did you fuckers really make 29 pages of fluff? I'll read this shit tomorrow.

Yes, they really did. There are some walls though.

[tn5421]

I was still seeing RVS until my shakeup. I was and still am annoyed at the fluff.

Not dis shitto agen...

What shit? What do you think of tn?

You see, the whole argument with tn can be summed up to him saying the whole game was fluff while there was content to be analyzed then not showing any analysis or intent of moving on from said thing, He showed a lot of posts of mine calling them fluff which i rebutted, then he rebutted again, then i rebutted his rebutal, and so on...

Most of which are fluff, and I've commented on ones that aren't.

Did you fuckers really make 29 pages of fluff? I'll read this shit tomorrow.

tn went on a rampage

We all told him to stop

Bruce Banner becomes The Hulk.

Tn why the fuck are you voting SH?

Read the thread

I am not reading inline quotes where I cannot tell who is talking.

And yet he believes that i should reply in the exact same way instead of taking his statements out of the quote and replying myself...

You deliberately skewed the context.

[tn5421]

SH, do you think tn is obscuring himself by hiding his reads in walls that are hard to comprehend?

This is exactly what Sakura is doing. She said to post content so I did and now she's mad that I'm posting content.

[tn5421]

VOTE: tn

wagon hoooooooo

Do you have any unique reads, wagons, votes, or anything this game, or are you just sheeping everyone?

[tn5421]

I've said I wanted you dead most of the game

But nope, I'm completely sheeping this game!

Can you quote or post tag where you said it?

[tn5421]

top

no fluff pls

[tn5421]

Bins/Titus/(tn/bert) scumteam

later nerds

I'm derping?

I'm derping from NS. It's infectious.
ahhh-choo.

Leads a wagon on a lurker and respond with fluff at him. Um. Yeah.

It wasn't that fluffly. They were geniune questions.

And seriously, NS does that to me. c;

<3

FWiw even if you aren't scum TN and Flubber still are

I told you guys

tn/bins/flubber scumteam

this game is e z

Me?

An underage minor drink?

Prepostorous

I already think Bins is scum

The only thing I'm trying to decide now is if I want tn blood because he's being elitist or if it's because he's spent so much time trying to create noise and look busy.

pedit-

hmm.

VOTE: tn

wagon hoooooooo

So you scumread me before I even came back to do anything but confirm?
617 is the only post where you even give any explanation, so do you want to elaborate on that or what?

[tn5421]

Also i'm not a fan of tn's "Quotes or it didnt happen" logic. If we know it happened why would we lie about it? He can just go and read the thread instead of making assumptions that are goign to be rejected because of stuff that was said ages ago that he didn't read.

Players like you will twist what I'm saying unless everything is quoted, and you expect me to leave myself open to it?

[tn5421]

Nope

Because unlike sakura I'm not falling for your bait (<3 Sakura)

Please continue not linking to the post you are referring to.

[tn5421]

Tn, Sakura diesn't twist shit ever. That's more my job.

Curious, why haven't you called me out for a blatant chainsaw? Calling me scum is the rage.

Because that's part and parcel Titus as far as I can tell.

It's something that just happens.

Like a hurricane.

No sense being mad at it.

[tn5421]

I wasn't aware that I had signed up for a marathon game. This is extremely tiring. I'm honestly considering never playing again.

[tn5421]

The point is, Sakura has no right to tell me that I'm not active or that I'm not reading the game. If she can't accept that, too bad.

[tn5421]

782 refers to tn policied game.

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/234651

[tn5421]

There were 12 pages of posts when I came in, tell me how that isn't fast paced. Most games don't see 30+ pages in one real world day.

Hold the fucking phone. Did you really just say that I didn't even read the posts that I quoted?

Really?

Because that invalidates the rest of your argument right there.

[tn5421]

>Redirects me to "read the thread"
>Avoids interacting
>posts a passive-aggressive complaint about not providing content
>refusal to link to where content actually happened rather than the summary of it happening

I just want to be clear that you're still doing this despite me proving to you over and over that I have in fact read the

FUCKING

thread.

[tn5421]

Isoing for summaries, brb

Of course my replies aren't necessarily in context, I TOLD YOU THAT I WAS DOING AN ISO.

[tn5421]

Scum
Sakura

Null
notscience
Varsoon
Flubber
bitmap
(anyone not explicitly mentioned)

Slightly Town
Bins
Team 9

Feel free to ignore that I posted a readlist earlier if you want.

[tn5421]

Funnily enough, I townread all of your scumreads.

You must be scum.

-C

0 fucks given

Good. The game is started. Anyone RVSing from here (seriously) gets a death tunnel.

this is forced as fuck

like I know it's Titus, but fucking really? this seems more like moonlogic more for the sake of moonlogic, as opposed to actually believing the game didn't start until now.

-Rumia

-1 fucks given

Then again its a hydra so, you know, hard to read. That's why I'm leaning town rather than having a stronger townread. Team 9's motivations aren't totally clear to me.

[tn5421]

Funnily enough, I townread all of your scumreads.

You must be scum.

-C

0 fucks given

Good. The game is started. Anyone RVSing from here (seriously) gets a death tunnel.

this is forced as fuck

like I know it's Titus, but fucking really? this seems more like moonlogic more for the sake of moonlogic, as opposed to actually believing the game didn't start until now.

-Rumia

-1 fucks given

Then again its a hydra so, you know, hard to read. That's why I'm leaning town rather than having a stronger townread. Team 9's motivations aren't totally clear to me.

You obviously had some fucks given on those posts since they were worth mentioning.



-C

I meant that 'you' gave 0 fucks.

[tn5421]

Tn. Gun to your head. Who is the scum team if Sakura is town?

Bulge probably scum. Flubber maybe scum. You maybe scum.

[tn5421]

I'm legit pissed that tn's being obvscum and no one even cares about lynching him, my townread on pieguy's suffering because of that hard defense of him

That's probably the confbias talking.

I meant that 'you' gave 0 fucks.

But if I have given 0 fucks would I post that at all?
You thinking that I'm diligent enough to do that is silly.

-C

I WAS TRYING TO IMPLY THAT YOU DIDNT CARE WHAT OTHERS THOUGHT OF YOU.

GOSH. 3meen5me

[tn5421]

17 pages in.

Man wtf.

I feel like reading through the game won't do me any good, honestly. I'll do a couple ISOs later.

LITERALLY FUCKING THIS

[tn5421]

Tn. Gun to your head. Who is the scum team if Sakura is town?

Bulge probably scum.

Flubber maybe scum. You maybe scum.

why the fk

Considering this game so far, laying low is the best plan for scum while everyone else tears each other apart.

[tn5421]

And that's the first thing I agree coming from tn!

What are you even talking about?

[tn5421]

I don't give a shit if you townread me. I care about catching scum. I can be wrong from time to time. That is why I don't tunnel rapidlym

What are your scumreads again? tn, team 9 and who else?

Ha, nice try. Why don't you

try

isoing

the

thread

?

[tn5421]

"Why dont you try isoing the thread, since it's clear that you didn't read. Otherwise you would know his reads"

[tn5421]

Bulge isn't V/LA enough if he can commit beetlejuice tell.

I've seen him on once or twice and wanted to see if I'd get his attention. I did.
I think he's deliberately lurking it out. I don't know what his V/LA status was earlier today though.

I think you're scummy based on your minimizing your contact with others in this game so far. 853, 788, 715; but on the other hand 701 and 753 keep it from being a strong read.
Titus is scummy in every role except Innocent Child.

[tn5421]

This game depresses me.

Lot of town are gonna fight against each other until everyone is exhausted and apathetic.
Scum's gonna steamrolling this game from D3.
We'll die n1 so we won't be able to save this game.

It's just that this sucks that despite I can see everything coming, I can't do shit about it.

Currently i just want tn dead regardless of alignment, i'm way too pissed at his scumpainting to even care.

Death Tunnel for Cutie

See Also:

Is it possible to WotC someone after the game started?

No.

Yes, it's called a lynch.

You know what's even more depressing?
I correctly guessed every one of your moves at skype.

Claiming outside communication?

[tn5421]

eh?

He's tunneling so hard into his tvt I feel like he has to come up with really quick reads for the sake of not having anything other than his back and forth. Either that or my brain went numb through the whole back and forth and I completely missed his reads. I'm gonna have to check my pillow for excessive drool and then get back to you on that one.

Oh, okay, I thought you meant he was tunneling hard on Bulge.

My brain went numb too, it's not just you.

[tn5421]

i am the easiest person to read in skype mafia.

What exactly was the point of mentioning this in a 30+ page game?

We aren't in RVS anymore.

ppe @titus: That depends on how long you're left alive. It starts a like 2-3 and goes up by 1 every day you live.

[tn5421]

Claiming outside communication?

Yes. With pieguy.

Oh, NVM then.

For some reason I thought you meant out-of-hydra.

[tn5421]

holy shit. someone just acknowledged me.

oog:
I'll be your senpai~

ig:
So what do you think about the current state of the game, namely the high frequency of posts and the main reads/wagons?

[tn5421]

I have to go pick someone up from work in......5 minutes or so.
Direct any questions now or they won't get answered until I'm back.

[tn5421]

I'm just upset that Flubber doesn't think I can handle the cover of a death metal album.

Metalheads are pretty nice as long as you don't do one of two things:

1) Mosh with them (unless you get hurt, they don't care/mosh hard)
2) Insult their taste in music

[tn5421]

@Titus: Considering that startfromtheheart, bitmap, the bulge, davesaz, and MVP (whoever that is) have less than 10 posts, there's not much I can do. That's an entire scum team and then some.

[tn5421]

Or maybe tn's just seeking revenge for me reporting him for linking an ongoing game once upon a long time ago...

No, I reported Cabd for talking about ongoing games and called it a day.

[tn5421]

VOTE: Bins

[tn5421]

VOTE: Bins

Oh, I see.

[tn5421]

Leaving to get my friend from work. Can finally drink when I get back.

I blame you Sakura. You're driving me to drink and we're not even married. Gosh.

[tn5421]

Oh my god, people stopped posting 5 times a minute?

Is this real life?

[tn5421]

Ok, good, since it's not revenge i can add you to my blacklist with no regrets if you're town this game.

So you're literally going to blacklist me because of the way I play?

[tn5421]

Of those three I've only ever played with Wake.

Any reason they all start with W?

[tn5421]

dkun got me suspended from Osu!forum for 42 hours for calling him out on his bullshit.

He got fucking butthurt about me calling him on talking about an ongoing game he was dead in (irc!mafia) so he blanked my signature and completely forum banned me

[tn5421]

He completely forum banned me without chance of appeal for HIS OWN breaking of HIS rules, ask me if I give a shit.

(protip: I don't)

[tn5421]

[tn5421]

He thinks he's completely blocked me from appealing my ban to others. He has another thing coming if he think he can abuse his power enough to stop me from relaying this message everywhere.

[tn5421]

I'm just glad the game isn't flooding anymore. It's hard to keep up with even when motivated to do so.

[tn5421]

TOWNBLOC ADD TEAM 9
TOWNBLOD REMOVE THE BULGE

[tn5421]

ONE WISHES THAT HE COULD REMOVE BOTH THE BULGE AND NOTSCIENCE FROM CONSIDERATION.

ONE PERSON CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

HOW WELL ARE YOU DOING PLAYING FROM MY STOMACH, AND HOW THE

FUCK

ARE YOU LISTENING TO MUSIC IN THERE?!

[tn5421]

OH RIGHT I ALMOSTFORGOT

CURRENT BLOC STANDINGS:
TEAM 9: 4point
BINS: -1point
THE BULGE: -1point

[tn5421]

Reason why:

NS

NS is Nobody Special.

ns is notscience.

Or, you could say that notscience is nobody special.

[tn5421]

like he hasn't even done anything yet

That's at least 70% of the problem.

like he hasn't even done anything yet

Why does someone have to do something to be scum? by this logic someone can get a scum role PM, do nothing and coast to end game. Did you forget that doing nothing was the reason the wagon on you started?

I think bins did in fact forget that. She sure doesn't seem to have understood earlier.

SH, how do you feel about X's wall? I agree with somethings (Flubber you and ns) but disagree with others. Do you think he's the kind to sponteanously readwall?

That read was pretty quick too? Preplanned conclusions or is it paranoia?

I was extremely stoked to play my first game; this looks to be similar. Leaning town on it as long as he doesn't disappear and not come back.

No. If I was doing that here, I would force people to choose SH or TN while egging them on. Wake was particularly vulnerable as he was throwing a hissy fit. Wake shutting up was best. Instead, I appeased him.Chaos in the name of peace is the staple. It allowed me to lynch an uncced pr in Wake.

There are a lot of posts here with me sitting back until obvscum show up. See Open 512.

Are you blatantly calling me Wake now?

I can only wish I held some of the medical certifications he has. Even though I assume you're talking about my play.

[tn5421]

VOTE: SXTLHGaiden

I'd love to hear you talk more....

[tn5421]

VOTE: SXTLHGaiden

I'd love to hear you talk more....

The heavens have parted...but why them and not bulge?

Bulge isn't here to pressure. Gaiden is.

i'm guessing for the reason everyone always votes me at this point in time:
hyper active lurking

It's because you're lurking in a 750-1000 post-per-RLday game.

What are you talking about gaiden my vote ain't no hate
it's all about love and motivation!

Or dare I say......

moevation

.

[tn5421]

Page 48 on day one within 2 real life days.

lol

[tn5421]

His GIF spam is hilarious

He done outdid GIF himself

Yeah

????

I'm going to pretend you didn't say that.

I'm having decaf candy cane green tea from trader joe's

you weren't supposed to put any extra flavors in your green tea ;w;

-Rumia

I've never had anything except the crap 'sweet tea' they serve in the South in the US.

[tn5421]

mostly it is cause he is taking a strategy that I proposed due to a certain lack of reading and claiming it was antitown to discuss it, even though it pretty much reduces to follow the cop.
He didn't even note that I didn't see the macho part.
it seems he his trying to give credence to a vote that otherwise he wouldn't have. I am always a low hanging fruit though...

To be fair, the whole point of this setup is making follow the cop impossible / prevent doctors from working together.

This is why if sakura says i'm town, i treat myself as conftown.
if she says i'm scum, you should lynch me. And if i flip town on top of that, lynch sakura.

What the hell am I reading here?

And actually argues in my favour (but not TN's, sorry TN).

Bins and TN have been largely made up of the same people.

Why are you apologizing to TN? Like shit you are saying, well I cannot be lynched so sorry you gotra go.

Is this a joke?

I'm trying to sort TN now by actually reading his wallposts.

YOU FOOL

I am beyond tempted to scream "YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD"

the fun part was that he picked your iso for fluff, sakura.
as opposed to mine.
my iso had infinitely more fluff.

You also had like 2 posts at the time if I remember right.

I'm also voting you currently, which I can't say for Sakura. At least she is putting in some fucking effort to make this a game rather than letting it remain just another spamfest.

And the one thing bothering me is that GiF's going "Sakura's pride was hurt, ergo her case is bollocks" as a reason to townread tn.

Actually the reason I'm town reading tn is bc he was basically doing the exact same thing you have been.

I did get some positive things from our little fight. I'm pretty sure that Sakura is town.

I have not townread tn at all. I started his first wagon and I have stated tn is likely scum but I want start dead bc I am more confident in that flip. If deadline was close, I would be moving to tn. It is not so I just implore you to look at start's ISO. No context.

This is not how you interact with your scumreads:

Tn. Gun to your head. Who is the scum team if Sakura is town?

However i guess it is true that you're not townreading him:

How the hell are you town reading tn

Guess I was wrong then.

Yeah that is. I wanted SH v TN to wind down if I was wrong. That's a post trying to dissolve the conflict to steer convo elsewhere.

Gun to your head is precisely how to sort and get info from scum.

Gee I'm lynching you, finsl reads plz rarely works.

You have no idea how strong my temptation was to be all like

"How are you doing to shoot me if you

don't have any hands

"

First matrix movie is still one of my favorites today.

Pagetop

I am making a conscious effort to show up on my mobile often

Hi.

This is somewhere near the middle of the page.
You may have screwed up trying to pagetop in a page/hour game.

The difference between your case and my case is that you looked at the words while I looked at the motivations.

What makes you think i haven't looked at the motivations? His clear motivation is getting a mislynch through so he has to scumpaint everything i say.

You've been completely ignoring me since then, actually.

~~~~ (hours later)

(Also strictly speaking, tn posted the whole thing in this thread so technically it can be relevant to this game.)

And anyways why are you taking stuff that happened outside of the game as a way for you to further push your idea?

The same way how we're allowed to use the opinions posted on MD to call out a player.

Doesn't that ammount to outside of game communication? I remember wake being called out for stuff like that when he posted such things in MD.

What are you guys talking about?

I asked mith about it. He said it's a fair game.

*so confused*

[tn5421]

Make that tn prodded too.

[2:38:34 AM] Feirei: you haz prod

[tn5421]

What did bulge do besides be afk for most of the game?

[tn5421]

I guess I could put it another way.

Why should I be voting The Bulge over SXTLHGaiden?

[tn5421]

WHY THE HELL WOULD SCUMBERT PROTECT SCUMBULGE IN THAT MANNER

Setting up for a future fake claim maybe.
Trying to make town not want to lynch him.
Setting up for a way that if he's at L-1 and claims PR so that he's more believable.
Need any more reasons?

I'm a VT

Like Bert umprompted claims VT and you both decide to not only ignore it but fill the thread with fluff.

Because you said the lack of thereof made you think that 1542 wasn't justified.

Clearly the lack of interference changed your mind about 1542.

Pick one. Did I say it, or is it an assumption?

yolo intentionally bad logic ahoy
it fits right in with this thread
im almost convinced that i should just start shitposting to fit in

Like normally when I think I'm tunneling to hard I always stop and think if there's any other possibility.
But this shit is too blatant that even I'm going pieguy on him

GIFFY, now with 30% more pieguy rage.

~~~~

• blatant misreps around every corner
  
• avoiding questions/refusing to provide proof
  
• jumping to conclusions (confbias)
  
• distancing between heads

Why are people still townreading Team 9?

You aren't?

If you need explanation about why it's a

town-tell

, I think that when one head is messing up, the other head (as scum) will try to distance and not draw attention to it. Calling out your hydra partner on their shit is town behaviour, because it means you have nothing to be afraid of.

~~~~

GUYS STOP

BULGE IS TOWN

Bulge is scum. You his scumbuddy / bae?

The funny thing is how you go out of your way to explain why you didn't say said something, instead of just admiting you said it and proceed from another angle, the former is more likely to come from desperate scum to paint someone else as scum.
notty and Bins agreeing with you is heavily disturbing.

Something is way fucked if I'm agreeing with Sakura about something in-game.

1803 (reference)

[tn5421]

Bulge is scum. You his scumbuddy / bae?

wagon Bulge with us and we'll make great things happen

-Rumia

Give me your honest opinion on S (too many letters) Gaiden and I'll consider it.

[tn5421]

Oh yeah

Sakura and the Team 9 hydra are tunneling bulge

forgot that tidbit

It's ok though Team 9's tunneling was justified!

>justified

1) Links to the post that proves it is, in fact, justified without sarcasm.
2) Justin Timberlake - Justified

VOTE: The_Bulge

[tn5421]

the post that comes back THE MOST in this push is that god damned post

Now you're not even speaking English.

STOP USING THAT POST AS EVIDENCE

Disregarding evidence is pretty scummy.

You know what? Yes. Yes, I blatantly contradicted myself over and over. Yes, my scum case against Team 9 is based on the fact that they are committing

town

tells because I am an absolute idiot at this game. Yes, you all had it right. Lynch me.

Thanks for no longer accusing us of misquoting you when quotes weren't edited ever.

1947 sums it up far better than I'll ever be able to.

[tn5421]

Titus has IRL problems right now.

[tn5421]

Wait what?

im calling out the scum team right now.

22 scum
team 9 scum
tn(5421) prob last scum

i refuse to vote bins

Ika hates numbers.
Discuss.

2 out of 3 are divisible by 3 (9/3=3, 5+4+2+1=12&12/3=4)
He's as racist against 3 as I am.

[tn5421]

@NS:

*hug*

Sorry for my part in this mess.

[tn5421]

If DOC 1 ever dies, then DOC 2 starts protecting the cop and the cop stops announcing his cop targets.
EZ PZ.

That won't work.

When Doc 1 dies, cop becomes macho.

Well you had 22 scum with an associate to us. You should probably start over on reading them.

if 22 will read the entire game and give me a solid town/scum list, then i might reconsider.

Says the guy ignoring our posts and calling us scum without so much as a single one of our posts.

The whole argument is stupid and ika is quickly burning through my townread on sakura.

That's not going to help when tn/Gaiden/dave inevitably flake and/or replace out.

I'm actually keeping up with the game though, unlike Gaiden.

I still have no idea who dave is.

[tn5421]

I just got told

A) I should look for cute boys instead of girls

B) that maybe I just attract lesbians

i'm kinda curious about the context.

For the first part, my friend said maybe that's why i don't have a girlfriend

Second was when I said most of the people I know that came here are lesbian

Same friend said both things

was this a good friend?

Yeah

She's one of the lesbians I know

She said I could be part of the gay crew

Fluffposting extrordinaire.

This is basically an overview of Gaiden's activity.

[tn5421]

Totally serious note that I must get out due to the serious nature of this particular game.

Gaiden I trust your reads fully. I have developed a newfound respect for your calm-as-a-possum demeanor and mafia wit. It is startling how much you influence mafia games.

I am 100% serious.

Your sarcasm is a bit obvious.

(I also like how SXTLHGaiden seems to be putting forth some minimal effort into the game with my vote there.)

Gaiden's style is based on being a man of few words, and thus the illusion of "minimal effort." It's his mojo.

Protip: It's not an illusion.

Summary of 2655: "lol omgus with walls"

HOW ABOUT THIS: IS HIS MINDSET TOWN?

NO.
He relies on semantics on everything to "disproves that he's scum" not "prove he's town".
When not being attacked, he have been laid back not doing jack shit.

IS THIS MINDSET TOWN?

fuckidy fuck
fuck
dhsaidhaslkd sajdwq nksaxm,z.

TN, are you scumreading Gaiden? Please, I can't remember.

I'm annoyed at all of the people that should be contributing but are only fluffposting, and Gaiden is one of them.
If we can't decide on a scumlynch we should at least lynch one of the fluffers.

Yeah, I think it's best I tone down my postings. Getting back to basics here.

Is it a coincidence that tn5421 showed up just today, and that now a wagon is beginning to form? Or are my eyes deceiving me

I just woke up not too long ago.
I didn't even know a wagon had formed until i caught up with where my posts were made.

can we lynch tn? and sort you guys out tommorow?

Are you ever going to explain why you want me dead?

[tn5421]

BOTH OF YOU SHUT UP AND LETS GO AT TN INSTEAD. IT CAN BE SORTED OUT OVER N1

TN is town.
ISO me to find me explaining about how Sakura/TN wall war have been TvT. It's in page 1 of my ISO, past the middle of the page.

I don't think ika is interested in a logical discussion. I really wish we had Sakura back.

[tn5421]

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

Where is the 'case' that you have presented then?

[tn5421]

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

Where is the 'case' that you have presented then?

i am ignoring you untill further notice.

also if either bulge or t9 come out here and bicker again i will pull out the ultimate anti-town thing: outing the cop

Read: "I have no reason to scumread you so I'm going to be extremely anti-town and shut down discussion in the hopes of getting others to agree with me"

tn5421 - Scum.
SXTLHGaiden - Town.
startfromtheheart - Town.
22 - Scum.
ika - Town.
Thesp - Town.
The Bulge - Town.
Team 9 - Scum.
davesaz - Scum.
Flubbernugget - Scum.
notscience - Town.
Bins - Town.

At least, where I stand now.
T9 will figure itself out.

Do you have any explanation for why you're scumreading me or are you just going with the flow here and mimicking other reads?

The fact that you're townreading ika is setting off a lot of alarms for me.

[tn5421]

@Varsoon: Or are you going to 'ignore' me now too?

[tn5421]

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

[tn5421]

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

lol gl with that

Someone explain to me how refusing to interact with other players is town-motivated.

[tn5421]

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

to add on, the dicussion thats going on is anti-town. hence i can cut the crap of it. i dont like to be this far of anti-town but if needed to get ppl to shut up and quit having a pissing fight i will do so

really i hate being this kind of guy but if it will get ppl to do stuff then i will

p-edit: it makes ppl stop having dicussions about roles

This is a fucking open game.
Why do you want to out PRs so much?

[tn5421]

My town-read on IKA is largely based on my town-read for Sakura.

Plus, I don't think IKA's acting as scummy as people are painting him to be.

He's trying to out PRs and is refusing to interact with certain players and refuses to answer questions.

really i want to have a relaxed game but with all the shit that flew around was annoying and stupid.

real talk: i hate being the anti-town, i ahte making people replace out, i came in to play and try to settle the shitstorm.

it dieed out and i want it to stay that way but people are still too "piss fight" so i figured if we just have every role out in public it gets settled

"blah blah im trying to look town while explicitly performing anti-town actions like outing all prs in an open setup"

[tn5421]

Are people really letting ika get away with pushing for a DAY 1 MASSCLAIM

WHY IS NOBODY QUESTIONING THIS?

(this is me questioning it. ika, talk)

He'll just 'ignore' you too.

[tn5421]

Are people really letting ika get away with pushing for a DAY 1 MASSCLAIM

WHY IS NOBODY QUESTIONING THIS?

bulge, seriously read the thread

pedit: tn seriously im being for real, i dont want to do it. but if this is how its going to get the day going i will

pedit 2: nobody questions it b/c we already have an outed doc.

IM TRYING TO GET EVERYONE ONTO THE SAME FUCKIGN PAGE BUT IF THATS A HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM I MIGHT AS WELL JSUT DO THAT TO GET EVERYONE UP TO FUCKIGN SPEED

You singlehandedly took my townread of Sakura and turned it into my strongest scumread in this entire fucking game.

Congratulations.

[tn5421]

ive given you my real talk, if you cant accept it then i dont know what can

You proceeded to be literally the biggest hypocrite in all of MS with the possible exception of Marquis.

You have failed to respond to ANYTHING that I have asked you and are bullheadedly proceeding to out all town prs despite MULTIPLE people telling you to fucking stop.

You can take your real talk somewhere the fuck else, because we don't want any of it if your last 10 posts are indicative of your 'real talk'.

[tn5421]

Here, I made it easy for you:

Spoiler: Quote Walls

Totally serious note that I must get out due to the serious nature of this particular game.

Gaiden I trust your reads fully. I have developed a newfound respect for your calm-as-a-possum demeanor and mafia wit. It is startling how much you influence mafia games.

I am 100% serious.

Your sarcasm is a bit obvious.

(I also like how SXTLHGaiden seems to be putting forth some minimal effort into the game with my vote there.)

Gaiden's style is based on being a man of few words, and thus the illusion of "minimal effort." It's his mojo.

Protip: It's not an illusion.

Summary of 2655: "lol omgus with walls"

HOW ABOUT THIS: IS HIS MINDSET TOWN?

NO.
He relies on semantics on everything to "disproves that he's scum" not "prove he's town".
When not being attacked, he have been laid back not doing jack shit.

IS THIS MINDSET TOWN?

fuckidy fuck
fuck
dhsaidhaslkd sajdwq nksaxm,z.

TN, are you scumreading Gaiden? Please, I can't remember.

I'm annoyed at all of the people that should be contributing but are only fluffposting, and Gaiden is one of them.
If we can't decide on a scumlynch we should at least lynch one of the fluffers.

Yeah, I think it's best I tone down my postings. Getting back to basics here.

Is it a coincidence that tn5421 showed up just today, and that now a wagon is beginning to form? Or are my eyes deceiving me

I just woke up not too long ago.
I didn't even know a wagon had formed until i caught up with where my posts were made.

can we lynch tn? and sort you guys out tommorow?

Are you ever going to explain why you want me dead?

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

Where is the 'case' that you have presented then?

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

Where is the 'case' that you have presented then?

i am ignoring you untill further notice.

also if either bulge or t9 come out here and bicker again i will pull out the ultimate anti-town thing: outing the cop

Read: "I have no reason to scumread you so I'm going to be extremely anti-town and shut down discussion in the hopes of getting others to agree with me"

tn5421 - Scum.
SXTLHGaiden - Town.
startfromtheheart - Town.
22 - Scum.
ika - Town.
Thesp - Town.
The Bulge - Town.
Team 9 - Scum.
davesaz - Scum.
Flubbernugget - Scum.
notscience - Town.
Bins - Town.

At least, where I stand now.
T9 will figure itself out.

Do you have any explanation for why you're scumreading me or are you just going with the flow here and mimicking other reads?

The fact that you're townreading ika is setting off a lot of alarms for me.

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

lol gl with that

Someone explain to me how refusing to interact with other players is town-motivated.

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

to add on, the dicussion thats going on is anti-town. hence i can cut the crap of it. i dont like to be this far of anti-town but if needed to get ppl to shut up and quit having a pissing fight i will do so

really i hate being this kind of guy but if it will get ppl to do stuff then i will

p-edit: it makes ppl stop having dicussions about roles

This is a fucking open game.
Why do you want to out PRs so much?

My town-read on IKA is largely based on my town-read for Sakura.

Plus, I don't think IKA's acting as scummy as people are painting him to be.

He's trying to out PRs and is refusing to interact with certain players and refuses to answer questions.

really i want to have a relaxed game but with all the shit that flew around was annoying and stupid.

real talk: i hate being the anti-town, i ahte making people replace out, i came in to play and try to settle the shitstorm.

it dieed out and i want it to stay that way but people are still too "piss fight" so i figured if we just have every role out in public it gets settled

"blah blah im trying to look town while explicitly performing anti-town actions like outing all prs in an open setup"

Are people really letting ika get away with pushing for a DAY 1 MASSCLAIM

WHY IS NOBODY QUESTIONING THIS?

bulge, seriously read the thread

pedit: tn seriously im being for real, i dont want to do it. but if this is how its going to get the day going i will

pedit 2: nobody questions it b/c we already have an outed doc.

IM TRYING TO GET EVERYONE ONTO THE SAME FUCKIGN PAGE BUT IF THATS A HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM I MIGHT AS WELL JSUT DO THAT TO GET EVERYONE UP TO FUCKIGN SPEED

You singlehandedly took my townread of Sakura and turned it into my strongest scumread in this entire fucking game.

Congratulations.

ive given you my real talk, if you cant accept it then i dont know what can

You proceeded to be literally the biggest hypocrite in all of MS with the possible exception of Marquis.

You have failed to respond to ANYTHING that I have asked you and are bullheadedly proceeding to out all town prs despite MULTIPLE people telling you to fucking stop.

You can take your real talk somewhere the fuck else, because we don't want any of it if your last 10 posts are indicative of your 'real talk'.

[tn5421]

He refuses to explain his 'case', he refuses to link to it, he refuses to interact with me in any meaningful way, he claims he knows who all the PRs are (2793, where he explcitly calls for a massclaim)

really i want to have a relaxed game but with all the shit that flew around was annoying and stupid.

real talk: i hate being the anti-town, i ahte making people replace out, i came in to play and try to settle the shitstorm.

it dieed out and i want it to stay that way but people are still too "piss fight" so i figured

if we just have every role out in public it gets settled

[tn5421]

Refuses to interact with me:

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

Where is the 'case' that you have presented then?

i am ignoring you untill further notice.

also if either bulge or t9 come out here and bicker again i will pull out the ultimate anti-town thing: outing the cop

~~~~

Start of his push:

know what fuck you guys lets to this then

VOTE: tn

buldge read the damn game. they claimed doc. they have a deathwish on their head alredy if they live we turbo-lynch

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

~~~~

Refusal to link:

im shutting it down so people shut the fuck up

VOTE: Ika

Putting my vote where my new strongest scumread is.

Please continue shutting down discussion and forcing more people to replace out though.

lol gl with that

~~~~

Claims to know who the PRs are:

given the fact im subconsouly aware of the tinyest hints of anyones role makes me all the more annnoyed

~~~~

Outing PRs:

just an announcement when we do cop claims d2 it is to be your first post

WHILE I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTOIN:

Do a read list of the players

It doesnt have to be some fucking novel, but just stae them why. I dont want to hear any bickering on a persons reads either.

I will start:

22/tn/flubber are my suspects for their general posting and the case i haev presented.

i could see a wird chance of bins being scum as well

Where is the 'case' that you have presented then?

i am ignoring you untill further notice.

also if either bulge or t9 come out here and bicker again i will pull out the ultimate anti-town thing: outing the cop

[tn5421]

I have only one question for you, ika.

Who are your scumbuddies?

[tn5421]

HA fucking HA.

Good luck with that.

[tn5421]

So notty is sitting here calling ika town while he threatens to out all of the PRs and blatantly refuses to actually play the game with us.

[tn5421]

How about this:

Give me one good reason that I shouldn't replace out of this game myself.

[tn5421]

ika is a joke.

[tn5421]

Maybe he should stop fucking ignoring me first.

[tn5421]

the joke is fine. im being more on the serious side of me trying to figure out the damn game...

if we want to troll further i can do that easy.

p-edit: what varsoon said. look at thig game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=58466

it was me and sevral other who pushed titus to nearly replacing out and she was town. compare her to any scum game and tell me if you have ever seen that?

tn: im on the brink of exploding at you. i answered every question you asked. just stop.

You've answered almost nothing and have blatantly stated that you're ignoring me.

Maybe you should stop fucking lying and then getting mad that you're being called on it if you want me to stop.

[tn5421]

VOTE: thesp

i am not stating why. at this point i want the lynch for an entirely different reason

More blatant antitown play?

Do you even have a reason to vote anyone or are you just making things up as you go?

Fluffposting extrordinaire.

This is basically an overview of Gaiden's activity.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING.
STOP.
FUCKING STOP.
STOP IT.

OR I WILL FIND YOU AND SCREAM IN YOUR FACE UNTIL YOUR FUCKING HEAD EXPLODES FROM THE PRESSURE OF THE SOUND WAVES.

FUCKING. KNOCK. THIS. SHIT. OFF.

*Runs naked screaming through the night foaming at the mouth*

If you're so intent on protecting Gaiden, why don't you show me at least 3 examples of Gaiden attempting to further his/her wincon?

[tn5421]

tn one question: if i answer my reaosn on thesp vote will you leav me be im already broken from this game.

I can only promise that I'll leave it be until IRL tomorrow (the 4th of september, after sunrise, aka 10 hours) if you do.

[tn5421]

Aw. I made it too late for hugs.


Got a lot to do today, but I have been thinking about IKA's stance on using our PRs and how to break the system. Here's my two cents:

Cop claims cop AND claims the target he will cop.
One doctor protects the cop, the other doctor protects the cop's target.
If the cop's target is a doctor, that doctor protects the cop if we can figure out a system to do so without outting the docs.
The issue that arises is doctor confusion (obviously, we can't have doctors both hitting the same guy, right?).
So what we do to solve this is by assigning numbers. There will be DOCTOR 1 and DOCTOR 2.
DOCTOR 1 will be the doctor who's username is alphabetically earlier.
DOCTOR 2 will be the doctor who's username is alphabetically later.
DOC 1 will always protect the cop.
DOC 2 will always protect the cop's target.
If the cop's target is DOC 2, then DOC 2 keeps his stupid mouth shut and protects someone else at random (unless there's some way to do this without outting who the docs are).
In this way, scum is forced to try to kill out of our Doctors and ALWAYS has to burn through AT LEAST 2 kills before the cop can be killed, and that's if they get REALLY LUCKY.

Think this could work?

1: One of our doctors outed, so unless it's a fakeclaim this is doomed to fail after one day.
2: It becomes a decision of do we risk the cop on guessing if Team9 faked
3: I'm definitely saving this strategy for the next time I play this setup.

[tn5421]

*hugs varsoon*

@ika: Fair enough. I won't even mention you again (after this post) until I log in to my PC tomorrow.

[tn5421]

I think our current plan is:
Cop never full-claims unless he's at L-1 or he gets a guilty and any wagon other than the guilty hits L-1 or a wagon on one of his innos hits L-1. (subject to change)
At Daystart, we all claim a cop result in-thread. This way, if our cop dies, we can ISO hip for all his results.
Doctors protect folks.

Basically, cop only outs if town is about to fuck up, right?

[tn5421]

@Varsoon: How do you plan to get everyone to agree to fake results to hide the real cop? Especially since scum will want to manipulate the 'posting results' to determine which one of us is the cop.

[tn5421]

VOTE: thesp

i am not stating why. at this point i want the lynch for an entirely different reason

More blatant antitown play?

Do you even have a reason to vote anyone or are you just making things up as you go?

Fluffposting extrordinaire.

This is basically an overview of Gaiden's activity.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING.
STOP.
FUCKING STOP.
STOP IT.

OR I WILL FIND YOU AND SCREAM IN YOUR FACE UNTIL YOUR FUCKING HEAD EXPLODES FROM THE PRESSURE OF THE SOUND WAVES.

FUCKING. KNOCK. THIS. SHIT. OFF.

*Runs naked screaming through the night foaming at the mouth*

If you're so intent on protecting Gaiden, why don't you show me at least 3 examples of Gaiden attempting to further his/her wincon?

STOP BITCHING ABOUT FLUFF. FUCKING STOP. YOU'RE NOT FURTHERING YOURS EITHER. Or at least stop furthering it at a planck length per eternity.

I'm going to take this as "shut up because I said so, also I am completely incapable of doing what you asked because no evidence exists."

[tn5421]

Cop only reveals to stop wagons on innos until cop has at least 2 guilties, then?

[tn5421]

As in if our cop gets an inno, but through PoE he's one of the only people who is correct, scum kills him and we have no info

The chances of 4/8 people being wrong on their innos when we should have, at worst, 8 innocent players alive are incredibly slim. Each player who is claiming an Inno has, at worst, a 3/10 chance of being wrong. Sounds big.
The chances of two players being wrong on their innos is 9/100
The chances of three players being wrong on their innos is 27/1000


How do you suggest the cop manages to share info with town without scum being wise to who the cop is?

3 scum, 10 town. Everyone is still alive because day one.


From a town perspective:
Inno has 1/4 (3/12) chance of being incorrect and 3/4 (9/12) chance of being correct.
Guilty has 1/4 (3/12) chance of being correct and 3/4 (9/12) chance of being incorrect.
13 total players - self|confirmed town = 12 possible!scum.

From a scum perspective:
Any claim has a 100% chance of being as accurate as scum want it to be since all scum know who all other scum are.

The best chance to obfuscate the real cop for the longest time possible is to fake innos as long as you can and hope you don't inno the scum.
If Team 9 dies tonight and isn't a doctor, then this plan's success chance is increased, assuming the cop isn't killed (or lynched)

[tn5421]

Why is team 9 self-voting?

[tn5421]

Mod ill.quote it later so pls lemme.post a bit

let me explain to u a thing

[tn5421]

I figured out who it was that was posting "tn" all the time where it seemed to be directed at Team 9. It was ika. I originally thought Sakura was scum from some statements which read like "Team 9 is town and I support Team 9 so I'm town too, and you have to go along with the PoE because we're town". I could go quote those, and probably will, but I wanted to write this down while I'm thinking about it.

After all the replacement activity, ika was all over Team 9 and didn't really let up during all the cop claim discussion. I can quote that too. Plus a bunch of "shut down discussion" posting which I kinda ignored at the time as replace-in ranting but in hindsight looks very anti-town -- discussion and lynching someone is town's only weapon.

VOTE: ika

I'm just glad I'm not the only person that noticed.

... wagon?

I'll probably hop somewhere else but I haven't finished reading up.

I'm currently in a lot of pain because I pulled something in my leg... but actually, that will maybe mean I'll be confined to a chair and can actually get to looking more indepth.

How are you reading Titus' replace out, Grey? Scummy or just null or don't wanna look at that?

I think I was pretty clear Titus was scummy. I'm not going to attack Thesp on the failings of Titus, because first Thesp can just hide behind "I don't know what my replacement is doing" and second people forget who replaced who.

As for the replacement? Titus likes playing mafia, specifically she likes playing mafia as town.

Really? The way I hear it from her, she likes to be scum.

[tn5421]

Bins: Why are you scumreading me, bins?

[tn5421]

Bins: Why are you scumreading me, bins?

Because PoE is a magical thing plus you're scummy sometimes and that makes me sad.

Where am I scummy? Mind showing me where you feel I'm acting scummy?

[tn5421]

The basic summary of events is that either Varsoon is cop and Dave is scum; or Dave is town and Varsoon is scum.

This does leave out a few explanations, such as:

1) Varsoon is trolling Mina and everyone that agrees with her (fakeclaiming cop/guilty as town)
2) They could both be scum together
3) There is a possibility they are both town and Varsoon is the cop.

[tn5421]

varsoon is probably town, he brought a lot of needless attention to himself too, a town monsoon varsoon baboon

The basic summary of events is that either Varsoon is cop and Dave is scum; or Dave is town and Varsoon is scum.

This does leave out a few explanations, such as:

1) Varsoon is trolling Mina and everyone that agrees with her (fakeclaiming cop/guilty as town)
2) They could both be scum together
3) There is a possibility they are both town and Varsoon is the cop.

since day opened this is your post. you giving me the "whichever way the wind is blowin, ill follow suit" vibe by not latching onto a suspect, what's up with that

Sakura replaced out.
Titus replaced out.
Nobody REALLY wants to lynch bulge.

How about a fuck you.

[tn5421]

What if the person I investigated flipped already?

I can go with this, though.
VOTE: Dave

Pretty sure this says that he investigated Team 9, not Dave.

[tn5421]

The wagon literally dissembled after that.

[tn5421]

I just noticed that GreyICE has never really pushed me for information, just assumed I'm scummy.

TL;DR GreyICE has never even once given a reason for scumreading me. Proof below.


Based on:

2826, 2857, 2961, 2965, 2978, 3027, 3187, 3215, 3253, 3255

TN is such an unbelievably excellent vote from the last post alone. (TN: No reason is ever given)

Now let me read, plox.

Fuck though, TN is like a bank made out of banks stacked on top of banks. He's the federal reserve of scumminess.

Tempted to lynch Team 9 to slow down the rate of posting in this thread. Or any of the spammers really.

Bulge is town, but if people don't start slowing down and modering themselves, I want to lynch him anyway. Here's a guide.

TN or Thesp... hmmm...

Vote: Thesp

There's a few other people I should give a crap about, but w/e.

Double dog dare you to find a single thing that wasn't opportunistic finger pointing, setup discussion, general philosophy winges, or random "my thoughts about events on the past few pages". What does that say? Is he smart enough to have insights on player's mentalities? Or is he too stupid to have that insight? Or is he just finding it really hard to do actual analysis of a player for some reason?

while I have Thesp's slot as mostly null, I disagree with your reasoning here

for one Thesp has already said he has a bunch of townreads, but isn't elaborating on them. it is possible he's scum using this as a preemptive excuse for not having to elaborate on anything, but as long as his explanation checks out, I don't think this is a good angle to push. do you disagree?

second, if he was looking for an opportunistic lynch, his switch off the Bulge doesn't make sense imo. he unvoted Bulge bc "it doesn't look like Bulge will get lynched today". now that I'm looking at it again, his switch came, iirc, before most of the ppl had unvoted the Bulge.

My feeling on the Bulge wagon, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that people were voting for the Bulge because people were voting for the Bulge. I saw more descriptions of the wagon as a "leftover" wagon than I did of "this is scummy, we must murder this post haste". It's damn hard for scum to stay on a predecessor wagon - if nothing else it looks scummy. If you want to say the bulge wagon died because of anyone, it died because of notscience. Thesp actually came in AFTER not science started pushing the wagon away and tried to Kickstart the wagon, on the basis of "noncontributions" (which seems to be his new defining mantra - apparently all this scumhunting shit has gone out the window, and Thesp lynches based on post count and post length (

the only explanation for him not being on TN's ass, besides the fact they're currently sharing a QT and shit

)

Look at this post!

The Bulge isn't going to be lynched today. Looking at the people not on the wagon, enough have expressed disinterest in the wagon (or active opposition) that it can't make.

UNVOTE: The Bulge
VOTE: SXTLHGaiden

I want real pressure on the people who are deliberately not providing content. I would happily move my vote to startfromtheheart (

especially

if it puts an end to the posting diarrhoea).

He admits the reason he has for not pushing the wagon is that it can't happen! He wasn't instrumental to it collapsing, he just moved his vote because he wants a lynch on a "lurker" (The Bulge and Gaiden are town, by the by)

Please, you've admitted I'm a good scumhunter. You had a town read on my predecessor. Can I snow a town? Sure, but I can't snow my predecessor's ISO.

Why is this guy town? Look at that post. LOOK AT THAT POST!

Is this the question you're referring to? If it is, I suppose I don't know what you're looking for in the question. I've seen scum fake paranoia (I was fooled by it once pretty hard fo' sho'), and there's certainly legitimate paranoia. If that's not the question you want answered, I don't know what you're looking for - could you restate it?

Ooh, can I do question and answer?

Did tn post before the game started in the QT, or are you flying completely blind on your partner's motivations?

If you want to go after non-contributors, where is

Davesaz

on this radar? The man has done literally nothing. Why does he get a pass? Is it because he's your scumbuddy? Because the man is fucking obvious.

If you wanted to name your scumteam, would it be "Captain Obvious and the Obviousteers" or "Oh my fucking god why did I replace in"?

I've noticed this a couple of times and wanted to get clarification. Are you talking about tn(4digit number) or Team 9? Because at least once it looked like you meant T9 and wrote tn. The question comes up because tn(numbers) posts are a bit more rare than Team 9.

Oh, sorry! Didn't mean to be confusing, it's tn numbers. I usually call Team 9 either Team 9, "that hydra" or "oh god not again".

So you're adapting pretty well to MS I see, even though you're 2014. First scum game? It's not bad at all.[/quote]

Why Varsoon wagon?

I love the idea of lynching Thesp. Barring that, I like the idea of lynching TN.

I'm not sold on this Varsoon wagon in the least.

Also Varsoon if you investigated TN or Bulge then I love you

Just so we can stop arguing about those two

The basic summary of events is that either Varsoon is cop and Dave is scum; or Dave is town and Varsoon is scum.

This does leave out a few explanations, such as:

1) Varsoon is trolling Mina and everyone that agrees with her (fakeclaiming cop/guilty as town)
2) They could both be scum together
3) There is a possibility they are both town and Varsoon is the cop.

The actual fuck

You know, that question is actually fairly relevant on day 1. 3 scum and all. Not good to tunnel.

My primary scum read? He's dead, bins. My name leads the wagon. Mafia goon. Dave is number two.

Number three is TN, you, and flubber, in roughly that order. The bulge is a ringer, if only because I'm not sure on Titus. Would she have replaced out because the town wouldn't bus a scumbuddy with her? It seems unlikely. Maybe if she hates the bulge on a personal level, but my bet is, from previous experience, is that is the voice of someone angry that the town won't listen and lynch a scummy townie. I don't think she has the mastermind complex (aka Fate complex) where she wants to bus on day 1 and lead the town to ruin.

That and I don't find the bulge's play that scummy, just excessively poor. So yes, TN, you, flubber.

Oh wait, Titus' final cry was for TN. She did bulge/bins/start/tn. Scum tends to RVS scum much more often than statistically likely (fun facts, kids!) so... Hmmm... Thesp was hard on for bulge though. Meh, prolly flubber, neither Thesp nor Titus wanted to kill him even though his ISO is a radioactive wasteland of dead puppies and broken dreams.

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TN, when it's time for you to die, townies will have all the reasons they ever need to vote for you (not that they need much convincing, your wagon has never been short of people). Today is Dave's day. Don't take away his spot in the limelight.

By the by, I find it interesting that you place a higher priority on defending yourself from a person

who is not even voting for you or attempting to lynch you today

than you do on finding scum to vote for. We just got a day 1 scum lynch in. Any townie would know that a day 2 scum lynch means this game is nigh-impossible for scum to win. And here you are... vote on no one... defending yourself...

Que que?

So basically you still literally have no proof of any kind.

VOTE: davesaz

Someone hammer this shit.

[tn5421]

You've never stated any kind of case against me or any reason for voting me at all. I don't know why you seem to think this will fly in a non-newbie game.

[tn5421]

Quite frankly I don't really care anymore, do what you want.

[tn5421]

I don't.

VOTE: tn5421

See ya space cowboy

[tn5421]

Being the Last scum at L-1 and having no choice but to get lynched and replacing out instead... it's like what.

#LostRespect

I apologize for picking a fight with you. >~<

[tn5421]

So bins becomes a pseudo-modkilled neutral survivor postgame because cheating>

K