Mini Theme 1616: Guardians of the Galaxy [STOPPED]

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Primate because dinosaurs eat primates.

Lol'd at the post restriction. Let's see, that was 300 words, so that's probably either the minimum or the maximum. Greyoot, can you post any more or less than that? Also can you vote anyone? Also, if you're encoding some sort of message, can you include 5 consecutive 'I's in your next post? I'd suggest using morse code if possible.

[Mathdino]

SOS
SOS
SOS
SOS
IF YOU FIGURED OUT WHAT THIS MEANS GOOD JOB STOP WANT TO BE MY TRANSLATOR STOP

I'll translate. If anyone wants to translate themselves, use this site to replace I with '.', Groot with ' ', and 'am' with '-'. Then just translate out of Morse Code.

[Mathdino]

I apologise if it is, but I did check the site rules and these rules beforehand and it doesn't appear to be banned, probably because of the post restriction. Your idea sounds good though.

Yo mod, is the use of code banned this game?

Edit: ninja'd

[Mathdino]

"I SPECIFICALLY CLEARED THIS WITH THE MOD. TRYING TO LIMIT MY ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE IS SCUMMY. LYNCH THE SCUM."

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

There's gotta be a way to code a translator in JavaScript or something. Regardless, I don't think making sure we're sticking to the rules is limiting your ability to communicate; nothing Lady does changes whether or not you can talk.

So I'm not sure I'm misinterpreting the game advertisement but Thanos and Ronan are in different colours, making me think we have 2 factions vs Guardians and their allies. Which pretty much makes Greyoot confirmed 'town', and would make a massflavourclaim fairly beneficial unless the scum are given fakeclaims.

Edit:

"HE HAD THE EXACT SAME THOUGHT THAT I DID. HE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR ME TO COMMUNICATE. ALSO YOU ONLY SCUMPLAIN ABOUT THIS SHIT WHEN YOU ARE SCUM. MY VOTE IS IN A GOOD PLACE."

I'm guessing Lady thinks I'm setting up for an IIoA or buddying up to you. Might as well ask.
Lady, what'd you find wrong with how I handled that?

[Mathdino]

Ah okay. I wanted to find the code because I like cryptography and his paragraph of 3 words made me chuckle. And curious. I don't expect towncred from letting the guy talk, and I fully expect to be called out if I provide nothing but translation the whole game.

I can't say I appreciate your crypticness or saying your method of communication is townier than mine. Care to elaborate on the bolded quoted section?

[Mathdino]

"AS I RECALL YOU WERE SCUM IN PICK YOUR POWER. AND WE LYNCHED THE FUCK OUT OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM. IF YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS A TOWN LANDSLIDE I COULD DEAL."

[Mathdino]

Yo, sorry, I was looking up Rhomann Dey. Somehow I find it suspicious that a character like that would have a friggin dayvig.

I didn't quite make it clear but I did want people to discuss/approve a massclaim before actually doing it because it's useless if only you and I claim. I'm not claiming yet, and if you're town and intent on killing me, do it D2; I'm not going to be strongarmed into it though.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Burgers of Llamarble

[Mathdino]

And yes, that was a softclaim.

[Mathdino]

Your setup speculation was insanely specific and the assumption that scum don't have fakeclaims seemed strange to me. Now that we have outed our character immediately, your response is to call us scum (we don't have a dayvig, we are going to get you lynched) which doesn't make sense with this post in mind.

My setup speculation was literally the first thing I thought when I saw the game ad (coloured text, kinda distracting). I made no such assumption, I said that massclaim would be good unless there were fakeclaims, and I'd appreciate everyone knowing the game's actually begun before massclaiming.

My bad on the dayvig part, thought that was just a bad fakeclaim since a minor character's safer and dayvig is good for threats.
UNVOTE: Burgers

Edit: Pretty good reason not to claim is so the scum don't kill you at night. Jussayin. The ONLY way massclaim helps us is if everyone claims and we out a scum D1 through it.

[Mathdino]

Why are you so interested in my claim specifically? I'm not claiming unless everyone agrees to or unless it's life-or-death. Your pushing claims before that happens is anti-town and at this point I'd call scummy independent of your claim.

VOTE: Burgers

[Mathdino]

Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

Stop digging this hole deeper. I'm claiming nothing.

[Mathdino]

You're right, but that's ONLY if everyone is willing to do so, and that's clearly not true. The way you're doing things, we're not outing anyone as scum.

If you're willing to claim once everyone is, say "I'm willing to claim" or something.

I'm willing to claim. or something.

[Mathdino]

Because this is a theme game and some characters are more powerful than others. I have reason to believe that the scum could figure out what I do if I claim flavour.

Stop digging this hole deeper. I'm claiming nothing.

This doesn't match with wanting a mass flavor claim
Which you did

This is the post I was referring to above.

[Mathdino]

"Flavor might reveal roles, so we shouldn't flavor claim unless we ALL do it."
Right

This also literally makes no sense in any world.

Because if not everyone's willing to do it, then we're left with a pool of people who the mafia don't know the roles of, and a pool of people the mafia could shoot based on who's is at the top of the IMDB character list.

I wasn't aware there were

always

fakeclaims in themes, which is why I left the possibility open. I didn't in any way assume there were fakeclaims, and like I said, if there are, you're seriously screwing us over right now.

Edit: I wanted a discussion of a massclaim. Quote the part where I said I wanted a massclaim to happen right now.

[Mathdino]

If you could quit your strongarming, that'd be nice. It's not convincing anyone.

You could also cut down on the tons of short posts and fluffy posts so people can actually read and post. But in this case, unlike LLD, you actually ARE cutting down on discussion and communication with your "MASSCLAIM MUST HAPPEN BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD".

Burgers is scummy and at the very least anti-town. I can forgive you misinterpreting my "assumption" but not this BS. Discuss.

[Mathdino]

I don't get why ScumMathDino'd think "I wasn't given a false claim, I'm just going to go into the thread and suggest that massclaim would break the game" then "softclaim" a couple of posts. If anything that seems the action of a scumguy that definitely has a falseclaim and wants to out power.

This is why Burgers is scum.

Lady, if you could consolidate your issues with me in one post instead of being cryptic or filling the thread with pointless or tiny triple posts, I'd be happy to talk about said dissonance.

[Mathdino]

I think that scumDino came into the thread, didn't get a false claim. He notices that Grey is confirmed town because he's already posting as Groot, mentions that everyone should flavor claim because he thinks he will have time for everyone to check in and for Aronis to send him a safe claim and it will look town in the meantime. I don't know why be would softclaim his role but not his flavor if he's afraid of outing power roles.

Man, if I wanted a fakeclaim I'd have it by now. Furthermore, as I understand it, if I asked Aronis for a safeclaim, I'd already have a flavour in mind for myself, no? I softclaimed because you asked me like 5 times why I wasn't claiming flavour.
I don't really see how the Groot thing is relevant here, sorry.

And LLD, I really don't see how a short response list would be less spammy than half the posts in this thread being unnecessary due to triple/quadruple/fluff posts. Seriously, quit that.

Edit: I count 5 fluff posts so far, including 2 that literally consist of just emoticons. Yes, they're fluffy. Literally both of the last posts of LLD and Burgers were pointless.

Edit2: Okay make that LLD's 2nd last post and Burgers's last 3 posts. Translating Greyoot in a sec.

Edit3: stahp ninjaing

[Mathdino]

THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE SO NEWBIE THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT A POST RESTRICTION WOULD MAKE ME TOWN STOP YOU ARE JUST BUDDYING ME FOR SOME GODAWFUL REASON WHILE IGNORING WHAT I SAY STOP IF I AM CONFIRMED TOWN WOULD YOU NOT BE INTERESTED IN MY OPINION STOP

SINCE WHEN DO YOU FAVOR MECHANICS AND ROLES OVER PLAY STOP YOU LYNCHED ME IN PYP FOR CORRECTLY DEDUCING THE SCUM USING MECHANICS STOP YOU ARE NOW TRYING TO DEDUCE THE SCUM USING MECHANICS PARAGRAPH THAT MAKES NO SENSE STOP YOU ARE NOT PUSHING THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE TOWN STOP YOU ARE TRYING TO REDUCE ME TO YES AND NO QUESTIONS TO SHUT ME UP STOP I DO NOT SHUT UP UNTIL SCUM IS DEAD AND THAT IS YOU LLD

[Mathdino]

If you wanted a fakeclaim, you'd have it by now. Why do you say that?

What flavor would you claim as scum? How would you know no one else had it? If it was that easy to come up with a safe claim, why does everyone claiming flavor break the game?

I say that because Aronis just posted a votecount and is clearly active. I would hope that fakeclaim requests would be pretty high on the priorities list.

Honestly? I have no idea what I'd claim. I'd find a minor role, make it VT, pray for the best, and if I was told I could, ask the mod for a role PM based on that. And it breaks the game because it immediately makes claims like that suspicious along with the possibility of counterclaims.

LLD if you want out of the game then go ahead. Your complaining atm is more annoying than the post restriction.
And Greyoot, I'm less inclined to think LLD is scum; most of her posts come off as just pissed off town. Tunneling her is pointless.

[Mathdino]

Alright, I'd claim this dude, known to me as the skinny dude with the piercings and the accent on Yondu's ship who died in the space battle.

[Mathdino]

unvote

vote: Hephaestus

Not sure if looking for attention. Why are you voting him?

[Mathdino]

I understand though I obviously don't agree. You zeroed in on the 'unless there are fakeclaims' part of my post and wanted me to claim before I had time to get a scumplan together. Also reactions I'm guessing.

[Mathdino]

Alright, I'd claim this dude, known to me as the skinny dude with the piercings and the accent on Yondu's ship who died in the space battle.

Okay so I actually read the page I linked, turns out he didn't have piercings and it was actually Saal that died in the battle. Whoops.

Grey, can you explain your current vote and quoting Primate? If you could talk it'd be easier to tell sarcasm or jokes but I'd refrain from doing that as it is.

Also, @Burgers, BBT, and LLD, can we agree to wait until the last 5 people check in before talking about massclaim again?
@SMP, heph, penny for your reads?

[Mathdino]

"I AM VOTING A PLAYER WHO POSTS ON PAGE THREE OF AN ALREADY ONGOING GAME AND SAYS NOTHING. PRIMATE POSTS FOUR TIMES BY MY COUNT THE LATEST TO TELL US HE PLANS TO SAY NOTHING FOR A WHILE MORE. WHY POST TO SAY YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO POST."

Eh, I wouldn't really see Primate saying he isn't available as a scumtell. heph, yeah, I get.
I admit I'm curious as to why SMP popped in to talk about the rules without real content and popped out.

[Mathdino]

At some point Math said that he was only suggesting we discuss a mass claim. This post doesn't really look like he wants to discuss it, it looks like he wants to jump right in. (I removed the part of the post that doesn't pertain to the mass claim)

So I'm not sure I'm misinterpreting the game advertisement but Thanos and Ronan are in different colours, making me think we have 2 factions vs Guardians and their allies. Which pretty much makes Greyoot confirmed 'town', and would make a massflavourclaim fairly beneficial unless the scum are given fakeclaims.

This is mostly because I didn't expect someone to start trying to force claims out of people with all the power of a vote and spamming the thread. As a general rule I'm not okay with claiming unless it's clear everyone else is okay with it, or if it's life-or-death. Burgers's argument as to why I'm scum because I'd be for it but don't want to claim yet is either tunneling the hell out of a perceived inconsistency that wouldn't even make sense for scum to make, or scum. I see the latter. Either way, it's anti-town as we still have people who aren't willing to claim or haven't said anything yet:

Spoiler: Claim List for Convenience

ABR
BBT
DukeC
Flames
hephaestus
kcdaspot
Primate RC'd miller, no flavour though

The ones who have claimed:
Burgers - Rhomann Dey (Ben C Reilly in the movie)
Grey - Gee, I wonder... (one of the Guardians)
LLD - Garthan Saal (British dude, Dey's friend)
SMP - Kraglin Obfontera (skinny dude without the piercings on Yondu's ship)
Reckoner - Yondu Udonta (badass blue mercenary)

LLD's ISO seems really off to me, a lot because of the "I'm very clearly town" and that 1/4 of her posts are bashing someone she doesn't find scummy, but I'm guessing that's her playstyle? If someone could check me on that that'd be great. Otherwise, I don't see Burgers-LLD as scum-scum interaction at

all

, so I'd be willing to vote LLD if it becomes clear I'm wrong about Burgers.

hephaestus, dude, don't post if you have nothing to say. heph's activity shows him posting only on odd days of October, so it could be a job that's causing that inactivity.
Everyone else I'm getting townreads from, but as always, can't really do much with 0 content from 5 players (assuming ABR's joking).

[Mathdino]

I was Star-Lord, I have the ability to steal stuff including the Infinity Stone from people, and I start with the Infinity Stone. I assumed that the scum would guess that I start with the Stone because that's actually how it happens in the movie, which is why I really really didn't want to claim unless we could catch scum with it.

I'm really curious now, what were the fakeclaims, if any? There are barely 13 characters in Guardians, let alone 13 'good guys'.

Edit: The mod decided to friggin MODKILL people instead of replacing them.
So 4 people died. Game died with it.

[Mathdino]

Were you planning on claiming, Flames? If you had, I'd prolly have given you or Grey the stone.

I forgot, I also have the ability to give people the stone at night. I'm not sure if this happens before or after NK's?

[Mathdino]

MFW THE GUY WHO HAS THE FAKECLAIM THAT I'D PICK OUT, IS ACTUALLY SCUM.

OMFG.

[Mathdino]

You know, if Kraglin was a prepared fakeclaim, then that likely means all the scum got minor characters. Which means given everyone's claim, this would've been pretty easy to break. My WC says I win when all threats to the Guardians are eliminated, so anyone who claimed one of the actual Guardians would've been conftown for me.

Yeah I'm gonna have to call this out for bad setup, sorry.

[Mathdino]

Can you post the role PMs and any other setup you were going to have?

[Mathdino]

Hah, was right about the setup speculation. And about Burgers. The game ad did kinda make it obvious who the antagonists were...

And yeah, town would've had no chance after the 2 modkills if we ended up lynching town D1.

[Mathdino]

...I just noticed there's a miller without a rolecop. Nice.

Also what was I going to be able to steal?