Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[Andrius]

/confirm

Not at all pleased ZZZX is in the game but PLUM shines like a Silmaril in the darkness. <3

[Andrius]

Vote: ZZZX

Not at all RVS. This is a policy lynch. Basically for Pathfinder Mafia and I have it on good authority that Pathfinder Mafia was not a unique occurrence.

Good to dance with you again, ika.

[Andrius]

We had the option? I vaguely remember seeing something about WISDOM but don't recall if it was this game or elsewhere.
I basically signed up after Plum, and then didn't do anything on-site until tonight.

[Andrius]

@MS: Again, I was off-site pretty much after signing up. So I missed that window.

[Andrius]

Andrius, tell us: who are the players in this game are you most familiar with? Who do you make it a higher priority to sort first? And how good/accurate are you at sorting those players?

Plum, hands down.
singer, you, and mollie round out the list.

Basically those people. Plum is highest priority.

I recall being fairly able to read Plum, and she was the same with me. I can only recall one game where we were of the same alignment though (Blackest Night, if you ignore me being culted).
singer isn't too difficult to read. mollie isn't either(?) but I generally rely on Nacho for that one.

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hi andy!

Hello!

also we are town this time and you will probs be able to spot the difference in my approach compared to cotw or mebbe you will be 1 of those pple who never figure me out. we will see I guess.

Don't forget Spring Waltz! But I generally did rely on Nacho to read you for me so yeah I'll play this one by ear and see how you shake out.

[Andrius]

when he announced a policy lynch on zzzx lol.

anyway, this is RQS/RVS! chill gal lol

Uh no I legitimately want something done about him, or at least make it known that there are people who want things done about him. This will not turn into a repeat performance ala Pathfinder Mafia and I will not tolerate the usual from him.

ika's pick on singer was good IMO.

Obligatory: am annoyed by policy lynch being brought up, even though it's not alignment-indicative - well, no, especially because it isn't. We're not going there because it is void of information. Now that's out of the way.

And I would not be doing my due diligence in defense of the land if I failed to point out a problem.

Pretty excited for singer as well and she addressed a couple things very well.

I like Plum’s take on policy lynch, it is my own view. I’d rather take a replace or force replace over PL any day.

ZZZX has a self-policy or something where he will not replace out. I tried moving him to replace out in Pathfinder and it didn't work. So I stabbed him out instead.

I have no clue what their playstyle is but this is game and it can get a bit rough, if you don’t like roughness then leave players who do like it\engage in it or don’t mind alone or change your approach to them. If you poke a tiger with a stick and it bites your head off then you’re the imbecile not the tiger.

I think most of this is irrelevant as regardless of what animal you wish to classify ZZZX as he will be sleeping for most of the game and cannot be roused. He plays the game on his own terms and cannot be moved by others. My experience has been one of frustration on our parts which ultimately ended in me stabbing him out in the night.

We are so not in RQS.

1. Warmth.
2. Plum. The efficacy of describing her meta is hampered by the fact we have not played together for years and/or multiple hiatuses have lapsed and people change. I know her as a person which is arguably more useful than meta itself.
3. You. Why RQS at this stage when discussion has already been fueled? Why not Questions about current discussion?

so far I was having really harsh time issues, If ya wanted me out you could have asked me and I wouldnt have minded. But since stuff is already done let be nice to each others mkay? Also I do think we did play another game where i did fine together (maybe?) but... yea
--reading on

Pathfinder is the only

complete

game I know of.

when he announced a policy lynch on zzzx lol.

^ and thats how I get a big town read on him, and a lesser town read on you

Surprised you didnt defend me a bit a friend tho

How is me wanting you dead a town-tell? Out of curiosity.

[Andrius]

@Andy...I haven't had great experiences with ZZZX, either. In the game I played with him, he didn't claim beloved princess until he got rung up on like D4, and scum kept him alive for the win on D6. In another I saw him claim that he was useless early game, but "wait until late game, I really shine then!" It's not like I'm thrilled to play with someone who makes calculatedly bad choices as town, but what do you expect to "be done" about ZZZX? I'm not opposed to policy lynches in large games, because numbers imply town can recover from a mislynch, but in a smaller game you can't just use that as an opportunity to "teach someone a lesson" in the ways they suck as a mafia player.

I do think this makes you more town, though, since I think scum are more likely to ignore him until they're forced to bus, or allow him to stay alive for mislynch fodder later (or to just make the wrong decision in lylo as he's bound to do).

He made a big deal about how he plays to win LyLo and didn't really do reads or anything productive at all the game leading up to his death. I just did not get the impression that he was a team player and I haven't heard any good things about his play.

I do think this makes you more town, though, since I think scum are more likely to ignore him until they're forced to bus, or allow him to stay alive for mislynch fodder later (or to just make the wrong decision in lylo as he's bound to do).

I wasn't quite expecting this but ok I understand where you're coming from at least.
I was expecting some sort of 'low-hanging fruit' argument but it seems on one here has a problem with his play/him besides us.

(Andrius, I'm amused that this game's elements roughly correspond to Arda's thematic elements).

I had not noticed that. Color me intrigued.

Andrius - fine, consider me duly informed that ZZZX is someone you feel strongly enough about to pursue this and will keep in mind your presumed strong opinion that he might be a major detriment to the Town regardless of alignment. Now let's do stuff that is related to alignment.

Of course.

You really think so?

On second thought, no. I didn't really notice the lone confirm as a thing until ika said something about it - but singer has not been shy or withholding at all so. Definitely not a big deal.
Furthermore I don't think it has a particular bearing on her alignment.

what, specifically, did singer address well?

I liked her responses regarding Grib and mollie - its very singer of her and I can see her train of thought so to speak? Does that make sense? I won't claim to know her very well but we've played some rather invovled games together and I know her a bit outside of mafia games enough; I digress - those were good thoughts that I thought appropriate and agreed with.

Grib is on the radar.
Yukari hasn't posted anything of merit(?).

[Andrius]

I liked the way she immediately came out pushing her out the gate and I can see what she was picking up on.

Right - I know mollie well enough and I think singer is AT THE LEAST pressuring her to see if the whole 'sort out the easy reads' is contrived or not. Sincere or not.
Grib has pinged the radar - I would put them in the scum part of a reads list at present but I will re-read him and the singer/mollie thing later with the goal of clarity - I want to re-connect with those events after taking a break from my initial reaction to as to hopefully not poison the well before I drink.

[Andrius]

If you’re town answer, if you don’t answer vig gets a nice clear headshot

Don't like the way you said this. Vig isn't even in the list of roles given in the setup.

Also this was pretty terrible.

[Andrius]

c)

This is not the extent of the set-up. There will be roles that are not explicitly stated here.

[Andrius]

c)

This is not the extent of the set-up. There will be roles that are not explicitly stated here.

Please read our first post. Used to matrix6, this setup is very new and strange to us, which is why we asked for clarification.

tl;dr There are roles that are guaranteed to be in the setup (like VTs) that don't appear in the Pools.

[Andrius]

I've basically been V/LA since Wednesday but didn't realize that I would have no desire to be on-site at all during Vacation. Anywho, I'm leaving again, as I am going through another struggle and I must sort out my life again.

I request replacement.

Pax vobiscum.

-Andy

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Last reads list from where I left off:

Plum is town.
I have no reason to doubt Bookitty.
Did not get around to re-reading mollie/singer.
singer was leaning town though.
Grib is leaning scum.
ika town.
ZZZX town.

Pax vobiscum.