Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Mac]

confirm

[Mac]

VOTE: Shakira

[Mac]

my hips told me too

[Mac]

and yeah, sure, page 4 i have decided to bus shakira

you got me

good job!

[Mac]

vezok is not part of my banter, i am a one man show!

[Mac]

tere replaces pirate mollie. welcome!

one awesome lady replaced by another

Isn't that because Tere is apparently effectively a mollie-alt?

nononono!

tere nice 100% <3

mollie nice 25%

mollie is 100% nice. take that back!

Cheeky scum who didn't know how else to respond. This type of sarcastic comment is much more in line with scum's first instincts than town's.

We've moved on from our policy lynch onto a wonderful scum lynch! Yay!

what a load of tripe. have you ever thought a sarcastic opening comment and joke might be more indicative of the type of person I am rather than the alignment?

also, vezok being so angry comes across as being fake.
he should stop doing that.

that's twice i've also thought this. the man needs to chill out.

do scum have daytalk? this feels like it could be a warning to vezok but meeeeh.

Mac wagon doesn't really cut it for me. It still seems like shakira is the likelier scum with a mac scumbuddy.

ehhh what? haven't you just said my wagon isn't good and then that i am still likely scum?

or am i misinterpreting that.

Initial response was offhand comment shaking it off, second response was a scum "just in case" damage control post that, while it tries to keep the tone light and sarcastic, its own existence shows scum instinctively taking vezok's post seriously to curb early suspicion out of necessity.

it's a joke. the joke gets lost if i say it and then make a snarky reply in the same breath. there is no afterthough, there is no "just in case", there is no damage control.

just some poor comedy. i'm sorry if that offends you.

i'll be back later.

[Mac]

A man should take advantage of a young woman!

VOTE: jaqen

A man is taking advantage of naught; the vote isn't random. This slot is found scum and is needing a quick death. Simple as that.

I am heading out for weekend V/LA soonish but can a man explain why he feels that slot is found scum? Because it's not a strong town read but I am getting a slight town read on that slot personally - I thought his response to Ank at 148 looked relaxed, his demotivation at 151 looked genuine, and I liked his probing of Shakira at 160 and of Wickedestjr at 176.

What are you seeing that I am not seeing?

Leaning scum. I agree with your point w.r.t. his sarcasm and also got a bad feeling from reading his last post.

cool. what about my last post gave you this 'bad feeling' that you speak of? I feel like I shouldn't need to really ask for this, but whatever.

VOTE: mac

if he flips scum cerberus just failed at chainsawing

associations before a flip, good stuff. where are you at if (when) I flip town? what is cerberus doing then?


p:edit Hi Mac!

[Mac]

I don't see how someone could have a townread on Mac. Tere, you related it to Pokemon but Mac's posting in pokemon was a little quiet until the game picked off. I don't see a post you could have used to relate the two games together yet.

this is a fair assessment and interesting in terms of what tere sees here that opposes pokemon

[Mac]

So it's more likely Mac lacked your self restraint as scum, who should be watching every single thing they said, than that he(?) is town and speaking without concern for creating a "townie" persona?

whilst this was and still is the case, I have explained it was a joke. it was a joke I'd make whether I was either alignment so it's really not something to be crying about.

[*quotes my reasons while simultaneously ignoring them*]

So it's more likely Mac lacked your self restraint as scum, who should be watching every single thing they said, than that he(?) is town and speaking without concern for creating a "townie" persona?

No.

Scum hate being scumread for dumb reasons, and earlygame dumb/seemingly-unsupported scumreads. These are universal. Yes, town can hate that too, but they are also likely to just not care significantly more often than scum.

However, instinctive/basic scumplay is to try and shut early suspicion down quickly for obvious reasons (part of a more detailed explanation is because you don't want to have that kind of unnecessary baggage to carry on fighting against, but again, should be obvious reasons).

Here's how it went down:

91 is vezok making a(n oddly angry) remark about Mac bussing us.

92 is a regular flippant "lol fuck you idc" response. This would have resulted in me having a null to nulltown read on Mac had he left it at that.

However, his followup to that in 93 is massively scummy. It's scum making a damage control post, in case his 92 hadn't sufficiently handwaved away attention, or in case people would react negatively to 92's fluff-like dismissal of vezok's 91. (Imagine a celebrity actually taking the time to address a particular piece of tabloid gossip instead of ignoring it as usual - why even bother, unless that specific rumor actually has something true to it/worries you?) This was completely unnecessary for him to do as town, while him as scum had ample reason to make that post (again, damage control just in case vezok's suspicion there escalated or caught on to others).

already explained. 92 is not an idc post, it's a joke. 93 is an idc post. if i really gave a shit about what vezok said, I would've ignored it since, you know, it was an utterly ridiculous suggestion.

I'm not sure you are scum but you are overcomplicating something so simple to suit your view that I am scum doing X because I'm... panicking about a shitty accusation 4 pages in?

you've literally just watched my scum game; what similarities are you seeing between pokemon and here?

i am wondering why cerberus is hard defending me though. whilst i don't think my originally posting was as bad as is being made out, i don't think it warrants this level of defending that i am being blessed with

hi tere!!

Vezok / Mac interactions are weird.

there's only really been one interaction between us. what was weird about it? although, i would've agreed if you'd just said "vezok is being weird" because this super aggressive start looks super aggressively fake

this post was supposed to be my #248 but using multiple tabs caught up on me. my mistake!

[Mac]

probably not going to be around for the weekend but that could always change

[Mac]

Saw Mac's responses. Pretty much amounts to "but it wasn't". Still wanting that Mac lynch. Only 12 pages in but with this much resistance is gross too.

Yeah, and I asked you one or two questions as well. So either you saw and ignored them or you didn't really need them.

And yeah, it amounted to "it wasn't" or whatever you say. You can call a cat a dog as much as you want, doesn't make it a dog.

[Mac]

id like to hear why you find cerberus scummy

[Mac]

tere

do you see what I think I see in these latest metal sonic posts?

[Mac]

im behind alot, but i have a day off on thursday to crack at this.

One thing i am interested in is mastin's read on me. What is going on there?

[Mac]

UNVOTE:

i'm about to catchup so i'll see where my vote lands after that. from my very brief skimming i haven't liked the metal sonic half of sonic boom (not read titus' posts and to be honest, i'm not sure i'll get a read off titus) mainly because from when he tried to convince everyone to vote zzzx, it reminded me of metal sonic from the pokemon upick we just played. i don't know how much faith i have in my own read though, since this would involve ms playing the same way with two of his scumbuddies from pokepick. meh. we'll see where i end up in an hour or so.

[Mac]

Shakira, nope, thanks for playing.

You complain that the Mac wagon has so much resistance, but look at the icky counterwagon forming. Yeah, on us.

Follow your conclusions to the end.

haha.

using the fact you are being wagoned as reasons for you being town. that is absolutely awful.

I think I like cerberus for town. he seems quite agreeable, and i don't think that is coming from new-to-the-board scum. he doesn't seem afraid to question people either.

Oh, and before we get any farther:

@Ika- In this game, more than others, I will treat quickhammering as a scumclaim. The inventors have to give away their items during the day, which means that ending the day early can only hurt town. You can have the hammer. Sure. But we need to have at least 24 hours warning before the end of the day phase, and I'd prefer the day to last at least 10 days even if we catch scum to give the inventors time to decide their targets.

I suppose that isn't only important to ika, but hey. :shrug: It seem's super important with him in the game.

I'm basing this on being an inventor last game (haha, I won the game for town) and majiffy's hammer on day 4 or whatever. Super frustrating, and I doubt anti will be that nice twice.

what happened wrt majiffy/anti?

also, 413 looks town. it wasn't something i had considered either, so thank you for pointing that out.

i can help tere!

in pokemon, you were not *obvious scum*

I'm confused; are you calling me scum? because about five pages back you were townreading me and i hadn't really posted since then soooo??

i'm not sure i like the man trying to twist gorkington's replace out as something scum would do.

Gork replaced out of most his games, though. Something personal. It's probably best we respect that and not talk about it!

I'm going to not be around today. Mobile posting rn.

I will agree with that

feel like this is a bit of a backtrack from "gorkington's replace out is kinda scummy" to "well, maybe we shouldn't talk about it." it's completely possible you realise this fact as either alignment and are just doing the right thing, but worth keeping an eye on.

Feels like the post was meant to come across as pleasant / casual / avoid making a big splash. Maybe that’s your usual communication style, idk, but it seemed conveniently different from the sarcastic/defensive post that earned you your bandwagon. e.g. “just some poor comedy. i’m sorry if that offends you.” and the wishy-washy “this feels like it could be a warning to vezok but meeeeh.”

that is my posting style. as is the shit sarcasm.

Actually Mac can go in the slight town lean pile. Just realized something important...

Ok now Gnight for real.

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tere

do you see what I think I see in these latest metal sonic posts?

not sure, possibly, brain is swiss cheese at mo because reasons.

I didn't much like the response to my question about why he had two different reads on Ank in the same post but town metal does bullshit ATE too.

i remember sonic cheerleading for someone's lynch in upick like he was here, but i may be misremembering. the appealing to everyone to vote zzzx really made me think that sonic might be scum.

I agree that gorkingtons replace out looks scummier than most. I'm not sure thats enough for me to want his head, though?

why are there two avatarless people now nnooo

can someone explain cerb!!

What is this? This bugs me hard. Seems like fake frustration that got added so the post wouldn't be small.

unvote
vote bins

I scum read both 541 and 510

bins gets demoted to null

this conclusion about bins doesn't really make sense given the posts you've quoted? can you go in depth about it?

can't say i'm a fan of flubbernugget at the moment, despite the absolutely fantastic username.

i'm also fairly confident that zzzx is town from the baxk and forth with sonic.

false alarm. Zzzx is town.

Thanks for participating in the reaction test Vezok. You're town too

Yay, 2 strong townreads?

what was town about vezok during the exchange?

Oh boy I'm getting scum read over rvs again

go me

now

this

looks like sarcastic scum

Flum: I think I can agree with you there. I'm not a very big fan of Jaqen's scumreads.

3rded.

Jaqen's scumreads look bad.

and not just the reason that i'm on them.

it just looks too easy

Then lynch a man and prove his thoughts genuine so they can be sheeped.

you know genuine doesn't make them right, don't you? I mean, if you flip town we'll have your reads to work with but a townflip doesn't suddenly make you an absolutely scum finding genius.

your scumread on bins based on gorkington's replace out is SO bad - gorkington may have had personal issues, why does this make him scum? like seriously jaqen, you should never read someone based on a replace out.

[Mac]

this post bothers me? I didn't understrand sonic wagon until here. sets me off a lot.

VOTE: sonic

what about it?

what a horrible vote

[Mac]

you know genuine doesn't make them right, don't you? I mean, if you flip town we'll have your reads to work with but a townflip doesn't suddenly make you an absolutely scum finding genius.

your scumread on bins based on gorkington's replace out is SO bad - gorkington may have had personal issues, why does this make him scum? like seriously jaqen, you should never read someone based on a replace out.

A man is often catching out multiple scum D1 and you are knkwing this full well. And yet every game a man is playing with you, you go on to call his reads shit (in one way or another) and refuse to follow the lead because you yourself don't understand how to do that and are usually lynching some town instead. How about THIS GAME you reflect on a man's history of such and follow his lead instead of being a herpaderp do your own thing.

Also, if this one is town, why are you boiling down a man's reasons to scum read Bins to only Girkington's replace out when that clearly isn't the case?

if I recall correctly, we've played one game together? and I was in a hydra, and that was around the time I had RL issues and left the site. i'm not sure how i'm supposed to know or treat you as a scumhunting god, feel free to tell me otherwise.

if you give me a game where you called out every single member of scum during day one, I will sheep you and vote bins with you. and i thought that was your reasoning for voting bins, until now?

[Mac]

Ill pull stuff out of mac's quote on a computer if I remember

For now I don't see a lot of proactive content in it though

still waiting for this

[Mac]

^^ low hanging fruit w/ no vote

could be confbias on my part tho

er,what?

[Mac]

ohhh you're waynegg? that makes sense.

vote: hiplop

i'm going my own way just now pending bins' response to you, but i do see your more recent points about her having some sound reasoning behind them.

[Mac]

Half of the post is a point that doesn't actually exist. >.> so I don't see you can say it had "backing", Mac.

how is it being zzzx and not titus a "fatal error" ? jaqen's point still stands - there's been plenty time to get a read off zzzx. id bet a large portion of the playerlist has so far, why will it take you five more days?

[Mac]

ohhh you're waynegg? that makes sense.

vote: hiplop

i'm going my own way just now pending bins' response to you, but i do see your more recent points about her having some sound reasoning behind them.

Mental Note: Mac will vote here but not Cerb.

what?

[Mac]

i think cerberus is town and any wagon that is on him is a pretty easy option. he seems to have a habit of overcomplicating a simple message he is trying to say and it looks really fluffy. his reasons for changing jaqen from town to nulltown above seem genuine as well. few other points that off the top of my head i can't remember right now.

[Mac]

me, but I really shouldn't be.

V/LA til Monday morning, Anti. Get well soon!

[Mac]

V/LA forever. I have real life guys. I can't be bothered to read a game I signed up for. /s

This is why I miss the BAM ruleset.

Fuck off. Weekends are a time for me to spend with my family and friends, not a game on the internet. No need to be such a condescending dickhead about it.

[Mac]

Sorry. Been a week without much internet access, and I'll be having less for the weekend still.
I re-read hiplop's iso and he seems opportunistic. I like him more for scum than Sonic right now.

-flum

i think, given the reasons behind this hiplop vote (it came in the next post) were that he was opportunistic and the wagon that had already been forming on hiplop, that this vote itself is also opportunistic and shit and making me wonder whether it's scum on town opportunism, scum on scum opportunism or just pure lazy town.

Unexpected loss of internet access; will try to have things fixed by tomorrow. Sorry!

Flum is going to be gone for the weekend.

VOTE: Sonic Boom

Last time I checked, Titus was still scum.

aaaand this looks like a super backtrack because of the bad vote above.

Vote: Shakira Confirmed

#924 looks like some really good analysis from the jingle head of lying cat; happy to say there are town for now at least.

^^ low hanging fruit w/ no vote

could be confbias on my part tho

er,what?

Ill pull stuff out of mac's quote on a computer if I remember

For now I don't see a lot of proactive content in it though

still waiting for this

If you don't see anything by Monday you can use this for a scum case on me <3

it's now tuesday, and i'm pretty sure you haven't posted any you scumfuck!!!

(note: since my humour has already been dismissed in this game, this

is

a joke and i don't really care about your lack of whateveritis you were gona do to me - it's wrong anyway)

ehhhhhh

from 950-960, hiplop's points about tere were meh at best but tere's response was absolutely awful on the other hand. they make a smidgeon of sense but i'm not sure (given my experience with scumtere) that this is indicative of her scum game. i can see why hiplop may think that though.

My town and scum game is quite different and that's easy to find out with basic ISO research. I think they saw join date and thought they would be pushing lynchbait. Bad bad choice.

this is stretching the truth to fit your read on hiplop. not everyone finds a scumread and metas them to see how they act - to conclude that hiplop is pushing you because of your join date is nonsense.

for what it's worth, i'm not overjoyed by hiplop but i have moved my vote from him and onto shakira for reasons outlined above.

I am also noting that hiplop didn't join the Sonic and Bins counterwagons, but instead tried to manufacture a completely new one. Useful data if hiplop flips scum.

Wicked, I'd love you to do a reread and so on and hear your thoughts!

i see town intents behind this. i think the chances of hiplop, sonic boom and bins all being scum are slim as fuck and the fact hiplop chose to ignore both of those in favour of a fresh wagon does not particularly scream scum motivated to me.

Hmm. After isoing, no objection to a hiplop flip, I don't have any partocjlar town feelings about him and the pace at which this jas developed when compared to the other wagons makes me more comfortable with this.

VOTE: hiplop

If my counting was correct,

L-2

why does the pace of the wagon indicate scum, and why does "no particular town feelings" mean hiplop is scum and not null?

#1019 from bins was good. i want more from her like that. do we think we can give bins more space here and graciously receive more good posting in return?

Hiplop is mega desperate for a cw.

Interestingly won't sheep the sonic wagon

>desperate for a counterwagon
>won't vote the two big wagons either side of him

something doesn't add up.

[Mac]

I don't like this part at all. I can't put it into words, but I this rubs me the wrong way. I think it's the tone and the fact that she calls both hiplop and shakira town or scum. I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say.

i for one also have no idea what you're trying to say?

[Mac]

ive been prodded. Unfortunately about to crack on with a heave weekend of work, so im gonna

v/la til monday

. Will do my best to get on but no promises

[Mac]

my two scents on mastin:

probtown for now, but i'd love for her to go into more detail on her read on me. < in anything goes, mastin townread me strongly until day 5/6 and managed to mislynch me despite the fact i was confirmed as not doing the kill.

that also still remains one of the most frustrating yet incredible (in terms of how mastin and katsuki won that game) plays i've seen on site.

[Mac]

i'm wary of mastin, to sum up the purpose of that post.

[Mac]

this game makes me want to weep.

has mastin explained her supertown read on me yet?

[Mac]

I am having so much fun not lynching hiplop.

This game is the best.

Also everyone who scumreads sonic boom is bad at mafia and should learn to play.

whenever i read that last line in a game of mafia, i always cringe. sadly, it comes from stupid town alot of the time.

sigh. my heads not really in this game, i just kinda wanna get the day over at this point

[Mac]

i didn't realise it had been ages since i posted. hi! i will catch up tonight or tomorrow

[Mac]

prod received, but i cant post til tomorrow night. Sorry guys!