STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

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My role is pretty cool.
I have less cell service than I though so I doubt I'll be able to post much for the first week. I'll do my best.

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Y'all better not be paired off when I get back and leave me without an alliance.

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Hi. I feel sort of guilty being away right now. Consider me a sleeper who comes in ablazing half way through the day.

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I'm back, but I'm in a really shitty mood so I don't feel like doing much. Anything interesting or noteworthy happen yet?

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Huh. I got confused about who made post 544. I'm glad it's not you Farside.

Bugger off Reasonable. I'm not lying about my real life so I could lurk. Is that really honestly what you thought I was doing?

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That post still rubs me the wrong way, even if you meant it to just be a wink. I was originally upset at Farside because I thought she respected me more than that, but then I read the rest of the page and checked the quote and learned she didn't even say it.

Tell me which part you are most interested in getting my thoughts. It might be helpful to get an entirely fresh perspective on something before I read through the game.
My main thought right now though is I can understand why there's a wagon on you right now.

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My main thought right now though is I can understand why there's a wagon on you right now.

Keep making posts with lines like this and I'm going to actually have a day one scum read.

Keep using dishonest language like

EbWoP: #168 is the post that Flum appears to be pretending to be offended by, not the #160 I mistakenly put in in the prior post.

and I'm going to have a day one scum read too.


I like Vezok's vote on Mastin at the beginning. lol
Beer seems to be mainly trolling this game, and from what I know about town Vezok, he would get frustrated with it, so Vezok is probably town. This is probably the most proactive and useful I've ever seen Vezok.
Beer was null when he was being all gambity and trolly, I really don't know how to read those types of players yet, but I definitely did not like the one head calling the other head bad and scummy. Was Marq the only person to find this suspicious?

Marq, what would you say if I said I now know how to read you, and how nervous are you now?

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Marq, what would you say if I said I now know how to read you, and how nervous are you now?

MARQ, DON'T IGNORE ME YOU NINNY.

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Marq, what would you say if I said I now know how to read you, and how nervous are you now?

MARQ, DON'T IGNORE ME YOU NINNY.

:*(

Don't be sad. I only call people I like ninny's.
But what would you say?

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Mastin becomes conftown at day 3? I don't know why she'd claim that, but Day 3 is such a nice number so I believe her. Also because that would be a really dumb lie if she's scum, and I don't think Mastin is that dumb.

Sonic, you're being really weird and creepy this game. I want ZZZX to post more before I comment on him.

Fuzzy is reminding me of the scum fuzzy from my second newbie game. (I forget which one, it's in my wiki.) He just seems to be going too into detail about everything, and being unnaturally careful. I should check one of his town games.

Marq still hasn't answered my question.

WTF Ika? Why does this happen in so many games with you.

Bin's paranoia of being buddied by everyone seems town. I think scum Bins would be taking advantage of it instead of shying away.

Varsoon is pretty obvscum at this point.

Those are all the ones I feel like reading at the moment.

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4 days left? The first phase just seemed to zip right by for some strange reason. hehe.
Who wants to ally with me tonight? I need someone. I've never been in a neighborhood before and it sounds fun. Maybe someone super special will hood with me eventually.

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Marquis is wrong I dont post fluff as scum....... Flume is correct as far as being super cautious as scum. Am I playing my normal town game.....No. am I playing my scum game.... thats also a no. I was really tempted to just lurk until everything passed by.but not my style .

What is your normal town game, and how is it different from this game?

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@Vezok, what's your current thought on Beer right now?
I read Radmann and didn't notice anything particularly noteworthy. Is there a case I can read?

i would lynch bins right now actually
but fuzzy is better

Interesting. Willing to say why? And do you change your avatar every day?

Ew, I didn't realize there were only 4 more days. Why is radmann scummy exactly? I read his ISO and I'm still not getting it. I know people have stated their reasons in the past but I forgot them and don't feel like looking.

lol, this is basically what I'm feeling.
town points for National Treasure guy.

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Please tell me why you're scum reading Radman. I'm too lazy right now to look for cases.

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Radman

Radman's scum read consists of many small things that indicate he may be scum, I'll be going over them and explaining them here.
To start with in his post 111 he says he's willing to ally with anyone, really town should be focusing on allying with town. This is a weak tell I'll admit, however I wanted it mentioned.
Later in that same post he throws shade onto Mastin, yet does not actually vote. Taking a look at his post count reveals he's a newer player and throwing shade onto people yet not committing to a push is something newish scum seem to love doing.
There's the same none commitment to his reads in 161, they are full of "I'm not sure" or "something feels weird". Yet he doesn't actually full out say "x is town/scum". Why would this be scummy play?
Well not committing to a read makes it easier for you to change your reads along with the crowd, it is often accompanied with opportunistic voting.
167 is him continuing to throw shade over mastin yet he still doesn't vote.

Interestingly enough he's completely forgotten his mastin read now. He's changed to asking questions which look useful but actually hold no worth.

Then there's his most recent post:
"Or maybe I'm scum like you said"
That one line is so off it's unbelievable. He's also just OMGUS'ing coolDog without actually committing to a push on him. Showing he's very aware of what people think of him and his continuation of him having fluid reads.

Pr-edit:
Why the fuck do you not vote any of your scum reads yet you vote the one you thought could be town?

Thank you.
I don't think wishing to ally with anyone is scummy. I don't care all that much who I ally with. Ideally someone who's active though. If I ally with scum that would actually be pretty cool. The saying goes, keep you friends close and your enemies closer.
Throwing shade on Mastin who's alignment will be made clear eventually anyway is a little odd I guess. It's really annoying he site flaked

Fluminator you're town right? Down to alliance?

Yea! Sure! Let's do it.

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VOTE: Beer
Out of the current 3 big wagons, the main one I'd be happy with is RR.
But I really didn't like the Beer scum reading the other head move. Let's see if we can get something going.
Fuzzy is acting the same still, although I did like his vote on someone other than his counterwagons. It's not a survivalist vote which I'd expect from scum-fuzzy.

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P-edit: Why RR Fluminator?

RR uses manipulative language, isn't doing much scum hunting and instead spending long posts talking about other things, and after a wagon was on them both heads have started lurking it out.
When I said I was suspicious of them earlier, they responded with:

@Flum - Are you trying to provoke me to respond harshly to you?

Uhh, no? It's quite the reaction for being scum read though.

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1) No lynch
Hope that we get info from the mafia kill tonight
2) Lynch Fuzzy
I am not a big fan of this option
3) lynch RR
less in favor as RR is a better town so far and at this point would be more helpful to the town
4) lynch Rand
this seems to be the lesser of the evil/

Discuss.
Looking at you Flum.

Oh. Lol.
Hey Fuzzy, why didn't you consider a new wagon at that time, and why did you just change your mind?

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I'll ally with you in real life. Oh wait.

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That's kind of cute. A double voter allying with a no voter. Now they can share.

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If you don't have an alliance yet, get one quick.

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Which head of the beer was that? It didn't seem like either of the other two heads.

Hey Beer, what's your thought on your wagon? You didn't even seem to notice you're the most likely lynch today?

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Page top again. I'm on a roll!

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I'm sticking with my initial read on this one. This third head has looked a bit better, but why aren't the other heads even posting right now when they're about to be lynched? Are they really just letting you do all the work?
I wouldn't really want a vote switch onto Bull anyway. I've seen Ika lurk as town before too and I wouldn't want to lynch off that. Especially now that he replaced out.
Sorry Beer if you're town.

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Marq is dead? I guess that's good timing for him. R.I.P. Marq.
Cheet is dead too? Too bad, he was looking forward to this game.

So we can only vote between Frogger and Sonic today?

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Also Sonic. Why'd you just ditch ZZZX like that. Please stay with him. Would ZZZX approve of your target?

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Aren't fake claims a thing?

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Also, what was the point of that Sonic?

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I'm pretty certain that's a bad idea to be lynching based off flavor. I agree that Steven is definitely town, but beyond that we can't make any assumptions. Mass claiming would easily backfire.

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(Would be the perfect chance to explain why I'm conftown on D3, too.)

Please don't tell me this means you are who I think you are.

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I get bored reading 1v1s so let me just see if I understand.
Frogger and Sonic are going against each other. Sonic uses a gladiator almost right off the bat in the day. It doesn't work because Frogger is ascetic. Sonic is pissed.
And then the large neigborhood (Mine and Grape's party is where it's at though) had Bins join in and they don't like that.

Bins still seemed town to me day 1.
VOTE: Fuzzy
I don't feel like sorting Frogger or Sonic right now.

Pedit. Oh good. I look forward to Zzzx's catch-up.

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Having second thoughts on Hermit slot. In hindsight, the reason Bins may have been paranoid about all the buddying wasn't because she was town, but because she was mildly creeped out by it.
I still think Fuzzy is the best lynch for now. How all the pressure on him has been diverted is a bit odd to me.

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I don't see anything town from sonic, ric is a scum read, nic cage is lurking scum, I keep going back and forth with my read on cooldog.
Flum sounds bored to tears every time he post

Help motivate me please.

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Flum, what do you think of Hermit?

Thinking again, he's back to town. His threat was pretty unsmart, but I've spectated a game Constantine was in before, and it seems to be his personality. There is actually one thing that interests me. Do the players get told they are vanillaized? Because if they don't, then scum-Constantine never would have admitted to nuking them. His change of mind, editing the PM, and thinking he'd be killed over it seems pretty town to me. It could be some gambit, but it would be rather unnecessary.

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Are day viggers usually town?

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Also where did Grapes go? Our topic has been pretty quiet lately.

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Good job getting the win xtom. I was rooting specifically for you.
Fantastic game you made Varsoon. The fact that such a crazy power role heavy game made it to lylo is impressive.
Still probably not signing up for a large game again though. Lol. Sticking with the shorter ones. Thanks to Xtom for filling in.

When Rational caught a link between Sonic and Titus I was like "ooohhhh crap" and truly thought town had it won at that point.

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The scum topic is 75 pages. Holy crap.
You guys should definitely edit out the posts you don't want so you can release the strictly strategic stuff in there.