STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

Hm, so it looks like the only alliance left possible is mastin with the CoolDog replacement?

-Ceeb

Not bloody likely.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingoncelt replaces into the CooLDoG slot.
Please welcome Klingoncelt to the game <3

Anyway, I read as much as I could, 169 pages is kind of a lot and my eyes are getting blistered. I'll be back tomorrow, well it's already tomorrow in my time zone, so I'll be back after sunrise to finish reading and start playing.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon, why has your slot been so useless all game? :p Any questions I can answer to help you get into this game, I'm mod confirmed town so at least you know I'm not lying to you, but I could be wrong of course.

-Cerb

I have no idea what was going on with him. His instincts were off by a country mile from what I've read so far. He didn't seem to be deeply focused, that's for sure.

[Klingoncelt]

Regarding CoolDog, I'd like to ally him and get his claim...

-Cerb

-Cerb

Okay, that was Friday and it's Wednesday now, but if you're still interested I'd be happy to ally with you.

[Klingoncelt]

oh - UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

Regarding CoolDog, I'd like to ally him and get his claim...

-Cerb

-Cerb

Okay, that was Friday and it's Wednesday now, but if you're still interested I'd be happy to ally with you.

I think the Fuzzy plan is better for now. Is there a reason you won't ally with Mastin (who, btw is almost certainly town if TW flips the same scum team as the previously revealed acum.) Also, your claim should happen sooner rather than later....like flavor, at the very least.

I cannot ally with Mastin.

I want to ally with you because you're conftown. CoolDog left me with a lot of wifom that I'd much rather sort out in a smaller setting. There might be some useful info in there.

I'm Ronaldo, a human Beach City resident.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, please ally with me tomorrow, I'd like to clean up some of CoolDog's mess and figure out this game.

I'm always an easy mislynch.

[Klingoncelt]

Want me to vote for Trench or are we waiting for something?

[Klingoncelt]

(And the Mastin thing relates to an ongoing game so I can't say anything.)

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Trench Warfare

[Klingoncelt]

Well, I'm exaggerating a bit about finding the team. He could be scum, claim your town, get himself lynched, and you could still be town. We'd be down to 8 today, 7nk, 5 with 1 scum left if he sacrificed himself like so, so we'd still be one lynch off lylo. Pretty null play overall.

Klingon, you should probably claim like really.

-Cerb

I wanted to ally with you and claim at Night. I'm a bit nervous about presenting my info because it puts a bigass target on my back.

I'm a 3-shot Cop. Beach City Resident. CoolDog didn't use his 3rd shot, I'm hoping for that tonight.

Anyway, Night 1 he was allied with Frogger. He suspected Frogger, but halfway through the chat he decided that Frogger was Town. Duh. Bad instincts.

More bad instincts, he investigated Farside - Town.

He also investigated Constantine, not such bad instincts there, StC is a troll. But he's a Town troll.


So where are we?

Grapes
Klingoncelt/(CooLDoG)
Mastin2
Reasonably Rational - IS STEVEN
Sonic X
St Constantine the Hermit
Thefuzzylogic99
Xtoxm

You're Confirmed, so you're off the list.

Grapes
Klingoncelt/(CooLDoG)
Mastin2
Sonic X
St Constantine the Hermit
Thefuzzylogic99
Xtoxm

I have some suspicions, but I missed a lot, so anyway, by your POE I guess Xtoxm and Mastin2 are considered Town.

Grapes
Klingoncelt/(CooLDoG)
Sonic X
St Constantine the Hermit
Thefuzzylogic99

StC was cleared by Cop, I'm the Cop. So here's the lynch pool:

Grapes
Sonic X
Thefuzzylogic99

[Klingoncelt]

Also holy shit I didn't even realize NIC CAGE FUCKING CAME BACK TO THE GAME FULLY FUNCTIONING WTF NOW WE HAVE 2 LITERAL CONFTOWN AND 2 IMPLICIT CONFTOWN.

-Cerb

He's alive again?? And Town?? Cool!

How do treestumps come back to life?

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah, I'm really sorry about that Klingon. I was expecting fuzzy to at least carry on with the plan.

Why didn't you investigate anyone last night? That....seems really bad.

-Cerb

I wasn't sure about Mastin and Xtoxm, so I would have had to choose between 5 players. Too big a pool, I was afraid of wasting my shot.

That plus sorting out some of Frogger's chat posts with you might have helped narrow the pool.

[Klingoncelt]

But now we're down to 3, lynch 1, I'll investigate between the other 2 tonite, gg.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, Sonic today, probs Fuzzy Day 7.

BBL.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon explain your Cop role please. How does it work???

I've said all that needs to be said.

[Klingoncelt]

Would be nice of ya.

[Klingoncelt]

wait how do you know how who Cooldog investigated? I am confused

I replaced CoolDog.

[Klingoncelt]

either

a) he PM you the info which is illegal
b) Vasoon told you but than how did you know he was going to investigate Frogger but change his mind
c) you are fake claiming

none of the options are good for you.......

Varsoon told me about the 2 results.

As CoolDog's replacement I have access to his ally thread with Frogger.

I am not fakeclaiming.

[Klingoncelt]

right now I am confused as anything and I about to give up....and replace out..

[Klingoncelt]

do you think I am fake claiming??

I think you're Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

So I was thinking about this game in the shower and figured out that RR's 'tenuous link' of a player (me, or others) passing the information to Titus might be negated by just this one idea.

Firstly, we note that this entire game is built on the premise of neighborhoods. Every player can join a neighborhood every night, and all players will retain information from previous nights. This has massive town utility: Obvtown players can re-ally with each other to bounce ideas and create a strong town block. The only caveat is if a scum player sneaks into these neighborhoods, but all things considered these shifting neighborhoods based on player choice

benefit town greatly.

Secondly, there are three pre-set neighborhoods/masons in the game. The first unfortunate flips true mason flips, Ruby and Sapphire. The next botched masons-who-were-supposed-to-be-masons, vezok and beer. The last hood-that-has-a-confirmed-town-and-are-probably-masons-too, the RR hood.

This is infinitely town sided no matter what way you look at it. The reason why the first two masonries blew were simply because of bad luck and botched play. The third hood could be argued as "not a masonry", but there is actually an IC in there.

Considering the craziness of the previous scum flips (Notably, the creativity of Varsoon's flips of TW and Frogger), as well as the very specialized and tactical-for-one-purpose-only Maxwell's strongman, I suddenly realise that it is

IMPOSSIBLE

that the scumteam does not have a Neighborhood Counter. Going by the track record, and by game balance, the scumteam should have a role (yet unflipped) that could pierce these sacred sanctuaries of neighborhoods.

Currently, the only player who has claimed a neighborhood-related ability is Constantine the Bear. Then, this can go two ways (as usual).

1) Constantine is town.

Almost all of the roles in this game has a similar duplicate, some by town, some by scum. Note: Town rolecop, Scum rolecop. Day 1 Treestump, No-Alliance Treestump. Town Commuter, Scum Ascetic. Town 1 shot Roleblock, Scum Jailkeep. It is not impossible that the scum has a similar duplicate ability, but this time more scum-sided/less invasive.

I am suggesting a Neighborhood Spy, who could access/view a PT but post at your own peril!

This will serve as a counter to all the confirmed masonries in the game, as well as the semi-masonries that may occur if a clique of townblocks happen. This can reliably explain the source of TW's information.

2) Constantine is scum.

Since his role is invasive, he could not have entered our neighborhood to receive the information. However, there might be more to his role that he has not claimed. For example, he could also turn invisible for one night. Besides, by play, he is fucking scummy. He's not scumhunting and he is just plain lurking, and if you know his meta well, you will realise that Constantine is a player who sucks at being scum. Like ika. In Saki mafia, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=62582 his play was lurky, lackluster, lack of scumhunting, trolly, and he got lynched Day 1 For The Win.

Conclusion: Given the game's reliance on neighborhoods, and the three masonries, it is possible that there is a scum PR that counters them by stealing information from such hoods. This can explain everything that RR is confused about.

I (CooLDoG, actually) copped Constantine. Constantine is Town. Period.

[Klingoncelt]

I mean seriously, SCtH is very very obviously posting in other places of the site. Where is he here?

He has requested replacement in another game.

[Klingoncelt]

also I believe klingon's claim, kill him tonight instead of me, scum, pretty please.

Are you nuts??? I still have 1 shot left - but I have to ally with someone to use it. I'd like to do that tonight.

I normally don't do this, but if there's a Town Doc, please cover me tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

maybe we should ally,,,,I can cop you. If you are telling the truth that means that You and Hermit are pretty much conftown. If you want you can cop me. That's up to you . I am not going to tell you who you should cop. So how about it

I'd rather ally with RR. They're Confirmed Town and I have a bit of CoolDog's info that I'd still like to sort out, I need someone I can trust for that.

[Klingoncelt]

maybe we should ally,,,,I can cop you. If you are telling the truth that means that You and Hermit are pretty much conftown. If you want you can cop me. That's up to you . I am not going to tell you who you should cop. So how about it

Do you have to ally to use your Cop power, Fuzzy?

[Klingoncelt]

Anyone can cop me, I'm cool with that.

[Klingoncelt]

Are you nuts???

Yes

[Klingoncelt]

Im not sure how the quote relates to lie dectecting or even the cool kids but that is the heading I got

also not happening, Both me and Sonic are town, I am sure on that,

I very much doubt it.

[Klingoncelt]

Fine,,,,, ally with me tonight. Cop me if you want. I guarantee I will town. What are you afraid of... unless you are lying and know I will bust you, I dare you to ally with me tonight

Like I said I'd rather sort things out with a CONFIRMED Townie.

[Klingoncelt]

Fine,,,,, ally with me tonight. Cop me if you want. I guarantee I will town. What are you afraid of... unless you are lying and know I will bust you, I dare you to ally with me tonight

You can cop me if you like.

"I AM A BEACH CITY RESIDENT AND A COP."

Yeah, go ahead and cop that.

[Klingoncelt]

Lame role.

[Klingoncelt]

Titus would do everything in her power to clear her scumbuddies.

"O hai, dis wagon haz all townz."

Seriously. This is Titus we're talking about, do you really think it was a slip?

[Klingoncelt]

Yes, I do. Constantine's cleared by your result unless you want to start doubting that.

So that'd be Sonic and grapes.

Both of which look quite town by play.

It doesn't matter how they look. Scum's job is to look all Townie-like.

[Klingoncelt]

Who all could be GF?

[Klingoncelt]

I'll vote Sonic with you.

VOTE: Sonic X


RR, you and Fuzzy are ally-ing tonight, right?

[Klingoncelt]

Sonic is at L-1

I think.

@NicCage - Want to ally?

[Klingoncelt]

No, klingon, we will be with you.
Nic and grapes
Klingon us
Fuzzy, xtoxm, mastin, and constantine...I don't know.

Okay, cool!

[Klingoncelt]

I hate having a janitor in a game...

That said, gg, everyone!

Thanks for modding this one, Varsoon, as brief as my time here was, I had fun.

[Klingoncelt]

I hate having a janitor in a game...

That said, gg, everyone!

Thanks for modding this one, Varsoon, as brief as my time here was, I had fun.

I need to draw scum in a game with you where you actually have to hunt me.

I'll be a Vanilla Townie, I'll have you totally figured out, so Town will lynch me Day 1.

[Klingoncelt]

I hate having a janitor in a game...

That said, gg, everyone!

Thanks for modding this one, Varsoon, as brief as my time here was, I had fun.

I need to draw scum in a game with you where you actually have to hunt me.

I'll be a Vanilla Townie, I'll have you totally figured out, so Town will lynch me Day 1.

Isn't that how it goes? Remember that game where you thought I was a bomb and you and your teammate did competing miller claims and I called out your whole team and told the game exactly what was going on, and then I got lynched? What's worse is I got lynched for hammering the day before (without realizing I was hammering) because your scum partner who did the dueling miller claims thing claimed a cop guilty on our cop, whom your team had rolecopped.

And I called out the whole situation to the game. I was like "they rolecopped Shinobi, did a fake claim to get him lynched, and now they're doing counterclaims to try and clear one of themselves". I had it spot on all the way and nobody believed me. I think you guys turned those gambits into a win if I recall correctly.

Just didn't want anyone thinking you're only ever on the bad side of those situations ;p

Oh, I know. Everyone gets in that spot every so often.

It's infuriating.

I felt kind of bad for you in that game, you totally had us and we could see your frustration.

[Klingoncelt]

As a note, if you guys are really dying for another Varsoon-run game, there's a mini-theme that I /in'd to run awhile back called Suikoden U-Pick.

I'm still /in!