Mini 1724: Gameboy Advance Mafia (Abandoned)

[Aj The Epic]

Well the most important person is here. /confirm

VOTE: xtoxm

[Aj The Epic]

mostly a gut churn, vedith

but to put it into words - the thing about hydras not signing sounds like something someone would say who wants to say something but couldn't think of anything else to say, or something

Yeah I ask this in basically every game. It's more so I can keep track of who everyone else is talking about once I get used to who is in what hydra.

Shall we massclaim?

Fonic JoaT 1-shot Cop 1-shot Jailkeeper Conditional Innocent Child.

Next.

4 shot sleeping god. My list of abilities ranges from sending everyone a video of spooky scary skeletons to becoming a bomb upon death and killing everyone on my wagon. Overall my role is very balanced, if not a bit weak.

[Aj The Epic]

are we actually claiming or bullshitting for keks

I mean, you can wait until you get a random video to know for sure

No one gets dreaming god in a balanced game. Keks have been had.

[Aj The Epic]

I for one think massclaiming here is a terrible idea and am not going to partake.

[Aj The Epic]

Lol I already have my vote on scum it appears.

Yes, let's out a bunch of roles and we might not have some sort of protective role so scum and just making a list of who they want to kill first. Absolutely nonsense. Flavor claiming is worthless because there are hundreds of characters to choose from in any game uncontested so why even bother?

[Aj The Epic]

SoS do you see this attempt at massclaim as scum fishing?

[Aj The Epic]

So now that we've gathered that this massclaim was a bad idea and that it has just killed off our activity, can we at least go after the guy who just fished out half the roles for scum?

[Aj The Epic]

So you have a scumlean on him on page 5, probably no other scum leans, he's only at 3 out of 7 votes and you feel the need to not vote?

Why? There's little reason to keep your vote on vedith and NOT vote for xtoxm.

[Aj The Epic]

All it takes is for scum to lie a little about one part of a non-investigative role and to all of the sudden be able to destroy all that theory crafting. And it still gives them a lot of unneeded information.

[Aj The Epic]

Why are you bothering with such a question on page 6? You shouldn't have the kind of conviction yet to say you'd dayvig anyone.

[Aj The Epic]

That's not a town mentality.

[Aj The Epic]

Xtoxm and Vedith riding the easy wagon to lynching.

[Aj The Epic]

Really? Are you sure you're not just playing the "Everyone is scum" card yourself? You've managed to call everyone involved scum.

[Aj The Epic]

Aunt Jemina, you could be anyone mafia by Jasont

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24130

Scum RB got pressured, got claims, stayed alive and won game.

[Aj The Epic]

@AJ: Your suspicion and play so far is completely surface-level; I tend to view you as a bit of a deeper thinker than that, though. Have any reads that might excite me a little more? Also don't really think it's the request for massclaim that made the thread inactive, it was no one commenting on reads from it. Don't you have anything deeper than "xtoxm is trying to out roles, is scum"?

I've taken a year and a half off, give me some time to relearn the game.

Davesto is my second scumread, as I stated before. He managed to take a question about whether he thought a wagon or xtoxm was scummy and came up with both being scummy.

[Aj The Epic]

Your first attempt (MS) was terrible. I don't doubt it, I just don't think claiming is necessary.

[Aj The Epic]

Ok so before this bites me in the ass, I may have made up every part of my roleclaim, the massclaim idea was more to try and get discussion rolling cus we seemed to be stalled in RVS - I'm not actually sure if anyone has claimed truthfully?

... Oh that's not troubling in the slightest.

Nacho, the second line in my post about the vig was to you: I don't doubt it, I think claiming is unnecessary. I have no further opinion on it. And having dayvig capabilities, it's provable.

[Aj The Epic]

And my quote got misconstrued. it's xtoxm's, why nachos is still there I have no idea.

[Aj The Epic]

Xtoxm and Vedith riding the easy wagon to lynching.

QFT

Davsto's 110 and 112 feel slighty white-knighty to me. First, he says that he dislikes the way Xtoxm went about conducting the massclaim and sticks to a scumlean. Then he distances himself from that by saying that he sees the votes on Xtoxm as an easy and scum-driven wagon.

So which is it, Davsto? Are the folks voting for Xtoxm scummy or is Xtoxm, himself, scummy?

Both can be scummy at once.

The thing itself was scummy - yes - but not scummy enough for me to vote. The fact that people jumped on it and went "so scummy" reads as opportunism over genuine, to an extent.

Look at all these people davesto is willing to lynch.

[Aj The Epic]

Wondering why AJ told me to give him more time to remember how to scum hunt when he seems pretty sure in his scum hunting so far.

Let's just say this is not the only game I'm struggling in.

In the first completed game I have back as a replacement, i fucked up lylo and lynched a vi. The other replacement game, I came in, took charge and we ended up lynching some VI on a scum hammer. I got nk'd off and town just lost all motivation to post. My confidence so far is not producing results, but it's the style I've been choosing for lower-activity games.

P-edit: Are you reading, Nacho? I stated the vig claim is provable so I REALLY don't give a fuck about it.

[Aj The Epic]

What, 4 people? In a game where 3 are scum? If anything, an expansion is in order.

Five people.
Xtoxm (3): Aj The Epic, Starbuck, A Simple Plan
+Xtoxm and Vedith.

No town reads.

I don't think anyone is really scum for it (hence my lack of a vote), but I'm definitely not townreading anyone for it.

Sure, he has five "leans", no official town reads and no one he feels comfortable voting for.

VOTE: davesto

Purging of lurkers is something that I always support.

PSHHH
Maybe let the vigs do it. We have two claimed vigs, and while davesto may easily be lying about it ('parts of the roles I'd rather scum not know' but still claims) we can still just rely on them to do it and actually do real scum hunting here so our wagons aren't complete mockeries to reflect on because PLs

[Aj The Epic]

...Okay, I'm getting super passive-aggressive again. Someone needs to teach me the correct level for these games after.

[Aj The Epic]

Knuckles what are you seeing in davesto?

[Aj The Epic]

Fucking world's cheesiest line ever.

[Aj The Epic]

You know, its role madness and scum are most likely going to have some fake claim. Hunting off of roles is going to get nowhere (See: nacho).

SoS we were talking about scum initiating a mass claim. Nacho wanted me to point a game out where they did. My example was Aunt Jemina who had a role blocker claim and ran with it. Town lost off of it, they just started picking roles.

If we're relying on Davesto to prove himself via vigging tonight, that's fine. But I do not see anything from his play that indicates town.

Dongmire jumping in and asking if sane scum would do it is also not rational. It was floated out as a question on policy, not a normal fish. People responding to it were not smart because town has reasonably gained absolutely nothing from this scenario. And, is it that surprising? A good setup shouldn't give the town an inherent advantage by simply mass claiming.

Lastly, bask in the glory of Xtoxm saying Starbuck's post isn't terrible probably SOLELY off the fact starbuck unvoted him.

[Aj The Epic]

The unvote. I'm betting it's the unvote.

[Aj The Epic]

What? I mean, I'm being honest. xtoxm has literally no other reason to think the posts turned around other than starbuck hopped off his wagon.

[Aj The Epic]

Pedit: Your rhetoric is boring. Fuck off.

Least my rhetoric doesn't out half the game's roles.

[Aj The Epic]

Dear Diary,

It's page 18 and I've just figured out who ASP is. I've been checking behind my back to make sure this ASP hasn't been stalking me. Every day I feel like there's someone called ASP but there isn't. My psychologist said I was just crazy, but she also said I was crazy for playing an online game centered around lying... Well she lies about me being crazy so I see no issue.

I will proceed to find out what exactly this lynch is going to do for us and why this ASP person and starbucks seem to be perfect substitutes.

[Aj The Epic]

Not joining a wagon you're on. And trust me, tomorrow there will be nowhere for you to hide.

[Aj The Epic]

Hey randommidget, do you have ANYTHING to say on the gamestate?

VOTE: random

Because you're iso is pretty barren of anything useful.

[Aj The Epic]

Davesto, who did you shoot?

[Aj The Epic]

Okay look, lets just say I can give something out which I also have. Lets just say, Random wouldn't need one at this stage apparently... Unless we think 2 of each role with a modification?

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah, I'm considering that too. The issue is, a vigilante should really read up on their target to make sure it's the correct decision.

Then again, Knuckles kill was just as uninformed.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Dave

Pretty sure Dong stated he wanted a NK on Vedith. vedith wasn't rb'd and I have reason to believe that knuckles was the one redirected.

[Aj The Epic]

Actually dong requested vedith to be investigated, not NKed. So dong blocking there still adds up imo. There's no way to know for sure but..

You're still ignoring the second part of my post.

[Aj The Epic]

No, Dong forced all actions at knuckles to him.

[Aj The Epic]

UNVOTE:

[Aj The Epic]

A Simple Plan (6): Davsto, Xtoxm, randomidget, Vedith, grapes, Knuckles

Guessing at least one scum here.

I'm okay with an ASP lynch early on, he's basically a huge lurker from what I've seen and I'd rather get that out of the way sooner than at LYLO and fuck up everything. Probably a good idea for a compromise lynch if we haven't decided on scum by the end of the day.

So dave's vote... I have an issue with this. Dave is a VIG, who can KILL LURKERS and that's actually one of the better functions of a vig early. Him wanting to waste a lynch on a lurker is concerning, to say the least. Says nothing more about it anywhere, no real reasoning.

Xtoxm largely settled on ASP after Starbuck treestumped.

No one should be not voting at this point.

You're goddamn right.
VOTE: A simple plan
Quick request: try to lynch me rather than vig me. If you try and lynch me I can prove my claim to be true.

This is lurking scum.


I don't know Vedith's reason. He stated early in the thread ASP's inactivity was a null tell but still ended up voting after Startbucks stumped.

Eh. Actually, I probably have too many townreads, will hammer unless ASP decides to answer my question soonish.

I don't think Kunkles is scum but damn... He was reading ASP as town all day and just decided to vote.

Grapes doesn't ever express fully. States Starbucks has some resistance, hops votes. Stumps, hops right back. I could see this as possible scum.

If there's some reason Davesto isn't scum, it's grapes and random.

[Aj The Epic]

So then we take Random who never tried any other vote but this one and honestly wouldn't have been around to care no-lynch or not.

[Aj The Epic]

Did you role block dave?

[Aj The Epic]

Also mudkip can't learn swords dance.

[Aj The Epic]

I think we should be lynching him by tomorrow. But today, I think Firebringer needs to get strung up and Dave needs to prove he is actually a vig tonight.

[Aj The Epic]

no, it really isn't.

[Aj The Epic]

my vote is to random or FB today. One of them is scum.

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah you hurt my feelings by night killing me in that mini. I was going to lynch you, too

[Aj The Epic]

I'm not one to talk about fake claiming as alignment indicative (i do it as town,scum,third party...) but a super defensive role as the one random has seems... unreasonable to exist. You can reflect actions and absorb shots?

A.) Have you used your reflection?
B.) Why did you claim unlynchable?

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah I'm tempted to say a reflector is a confirmed scum claim. Can redirect anything from him but NKs, and almost only shows up as a scum role.

[Aj The Epic]

Can you explain your tendency to stump, starbuck?

[Aj The Epic]

You're telling me a reflector, a role that solely makes it so that investigative/protective roles do not touch the user, is town? It's almost like a self-busser.

More importantly, nothing random has done demonstrates the role should be town.

[Aj The Epic]

Anyone else think it was weird how quickly people piled onto my wagon?
I will gladiate today if people are seriously considering lynching me, but I'd rather not as it is 1-shot. If I did I would probably do firebringer and aj/SOS.
Also my reflector reflects NKs.

This guy isn't town, let's be real.

Yeah I'm tempted to say a reflector is a confirmed scum claim. Can redirect anything from him but NKs, and almost only shows up as a scum role.

^3rd scum

And your reads have sucked this entire game. What the hell happened to the nacho I remember?

[Aj The Epic]

And your reads have sucked this entire game. What the hell happened to the nacho I remember?

?

You vigged on like page 7 and hit a lurker. I don't mind it if you were vigging specifically for lurkers but you seemed convinced was scum. But you thought the role was scummy. Your read on Random is pretty inexplicable because you simply planted him as town and left him there. And all game long you've had this issue with me but you've done nothing to address it. No votes, and the time you spent talking to me should've resulted in one or a read change. Instead you settled for a lynch when I know damn well you could've driven a wagon way earlier. This isn't what I expect from you.

can confirm aj is town

Who is the last scum?

How about we find the first scum. Which is Firebringer or Random. Or both. Both of their roles are suspect (in fact, Reflector only shows up as a scum role when I searched it) but random has nothing in this game thread that shows me he's town. My issue with the Firebringer wagon is random is on it.

@entire game: Is there anything in your PM that doesn't match lore correctly?

Also, Dave's stopped shot is still inexplicable.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Randommidget

[Aj The Epic]

You know... I'm guessing you don't play much pokemon.

[Aj The Epic]

We aren't. There's also many sites that allow you to access move databases for pokemon. My hesitation is I don't think it's fake because you'd at least the the common decency to look up moves mudkip has (and the fact that swords dance is a +2 attack stage move DOES FIT, but isn't commonly known that it's 2 stages increase lends credence to this).

[Aj The Epic]

I voted RandomMidget last page, mod

[Aj The Epic]

VC 2.06

Not Voting:

Sound of Silence, Peptobislawl, Aj The Epic, Starbuck, randomidget, Davsto, Knuckles, Xtoxm, grapes, Vedith, Firebringer, Firebringer

With 11 votes, 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2015-10-20 14:01:13)

You may only vote for randomidget or Firebringer!

That was a fucking awful play by randommidget. Sorry, you die for it.

VOTE: Randomidget

Don't interrupt town's choice.

[Aj The Epic]

Technically they're both my scum reads, but random's play is counter-intuitive to town. He literally stopped a lynch the vast majority of the town bloc wanted.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: randomidget

Jesus christ stop resetting votes. It DID reset last time and how did you actually think that stumping now would help?

[Aj The Epic]

Okay so who did you cop? Obviously you've been copping town.

One moment. I have a suspicion scum in that gladiate voted firebringer first and jumped ship. It's pretty obvious that Random flipping scum at that point was confirming SoS so any scum would've tried to at least push a Fire lynch first.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: fire

and if it's town then all you're doing is creating chaos and making scum harder to lynch, as if it wasn't hard enough already like ugh

im phoning it in the rest of this game fuckit

VOTE: Firebringer.

Heh. I should read better. Grapes and SoS were the only ones completely against it for as long as they could be.

VOTE: grapes

[Aj The Epic]

Grapes, who HAVE you cleared.

Also Starbucks is 100% town. Just thinking about it, 2 scum down and dead in N2 which means one left. Starbucks is dead until D3 so if she was scum, she couldn't shatter.

[Aj The Epic]

Fine. Aj and xtoxm are confirmed town.

I copped aj because his day 1 play was lurkish and lackluster. There were hints of town in there but him sidelining his vote end of day 1 did look a helluva lot like trying to stay off a mislynch wagon. And getting a result on him would save me a lot of headache.

xtoxm because I wanted to check someone off the random wagon - to gauge if scum bussed or not better and thought either I or SoS was a likely vig shot - plus, he's flopped his read on me about 4 times now and has never really gave a reason was about 45% on him for town

Heh... Me, 'lurkerish' d1... If I was lurking, I would've actively 'lurked'.

xtoxm also was confirmed before you copped him. If you didn't notice a change in behavior around him, you're kinda missing the boat.

If it's not grapes the only people it can be is knuckles and fire. I discussed this with xtoxm already, but I could've seen a gambit played out to confirm at least one as town. I wanted to check Fire last night but my role doesn't allow it at the moment.

Let's do some math: 3 or 4 scum. (admittance, I don't know the standard scum amount for a 13 man game). 8 alive, 1 or 2 remaining scum. GRAPES CANNOT GET A GUILTY ON TOWN ANYMORE. The role that should've caused that was dongmire's Kefka Palazzo character. If she gets a guilty that flips town, she is instant mafia.

The issue is, if 2 of 6 remain as scum we can't afford two mislynches. (because this results in 2 NK's, 4 dead and game). However, we also know Vedith is most likely town: he crushed the unlynchable move by randommidget and cost scum two slots. I think the gambit is too insane at that point for Vedith to play it. He would at least let one townie get killed, hiding the blue potion, and then lead a revenge lynch on random.

UNVOTE:

We're still in a precarious position due to nacho's initial shot. My suggestion is as follows: We don't CARE for Grapes' cop. Knuckles dies. If nacho isn't scum, and if Fire can roleblock again: he roleblocks Grapes tonight. If a kill goes through anyways, we lynch firebringer. If not, we lynch grapes.

VOTE: Knuckles

[Aj The Epic]

vedith exactly what can you do again?

[Aj The Epic]

I'm a doc and I give BP to people

What was the blue potion

[Aj The Epic]

I toyed with that idea, actually, that scum would just gambit on one confirmed town.

[Aj The Epic]

Uh wait ignore my vote on knuckles I was bleeding from the brain.

UNVOTE:

[Aj The Epic]

Okay, Firebringer, you role blocked dave night 1. Why?

[Aj The Epic]

I read the second action and knew my action went through. Read up to 'beat the living daylights out of them' and thought it was their NK.

Also kinda a mis-thought by myself because fire already claimed a sort of JOAT.

I'm really only seeing this between fire/grapes.

[Aj The Epic]

Didn't read SoS' role pm all the way though. Saw the second Night action and figured that that was the RB of the role. However, my own action went through night 1 (as did dong's, which is why I was having a slight issue with Knuckles voting, forgot about that part).

I had assumed Fire was a multi-shot RB but he's a 1 shot JOAT so we don't have that again.

Also, thinking of it, this makes FIRE likely to be town. This is because SCUM would've dropped SoS' global role block ability last night expecting the dave vig and would've taken a free NK, forced the lynch during the day and at least expanded the amount of days they could get out of it.

Knuckles, Dave, Xtoxm, Starbuck (as long as she keeps stumping), myself are basically confirmed town at this point.
Fire/vedith are pretty close.

I only say they aren't confirmed because this could be some insane gambit that just wifom'd the entire game by fire doing everything contradictory to how a flailing scumteam should've been playing. Same to vedith.

The only one left is grapes...

[Aj The Epic]

Also, to reiterate: before any lynch, Starbuck MUST stump as long as it isn't mylo/lylo. Her not being apart of the living will confirm her eventually.

[Aj The Epic]

L-2

[Aj The Epic]

Let's put this out there: Xtoxm targeted Knuckles night one, was redirected to Dong. I forget what exactly his role does, but this was what told me that Knuckles was the one targeted. Also, from my ability (I talk to someone to join my neighborhood: Limit 2 people (myself included). If scum, I die. If town, they join me), I know he's town. So basically, scum tried to NK knuckles night 1 and dong had them redirected. Scum has no knowledge of this specific redirect so they're not playing a super-weird gambit here.

I re-read the neighborhood after voting knuckles because I felt an inkling I was doing something stupid.

[Aj The Epic]

Also, to reiterate: before any lynch, Starbuck MUST stump as long as it isn't mylo/lylo. Her not being apart of the living will confirm her eventually.

how?

Because if scum is 'dead' even as a treestump as the last alive, town wins.

[Aj The Epic]

Still not seeing any reason to not lynch you today and then if you aren't scum flip dave tomorrow.

[Aj The Epic]

It's not really the correct play. We have a claimed vig in the open and an openly claimed cop who admits a guilty can come up on towns, even though we have no Miller. It's written in right now that you could use this as an excuse to get a townie lynched. The vig/sk has smited scum already. The cop has too irrelevant town cops and SOMEHOW figured you would cop me N1 because i was lurking.

The correct play here would be to string you up.

[Aj The Epic]

I'm not assuming 2 scum.

[Aj The Epic]

I'm just reading "smited" as "killed all of them". Is this me being stupid again?

Killed/Smited used interchangeably.


Grapes, if we have an SK, why other than dave has their been no factional kills besides mafia? And if you're assuming this, why is dave in your town pile?

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah and then dave beat me to it.

[Aj The Epic]

But you're arguing only third party left so what's the probtown category for?

[Aj The Epic]

Not a fan of AtE. For the most part, I'm converting back to my old ways of Mafia where AtE is just a policy lynch at some level if it's to avoid a lynch or doesn't feel perfectly genuine. Not a slight at Grapes, just not something I'm going to put up with.

[Aj The Epic]

dong targeted knuckles N1. this also means knuckles was roleblocked a night a scumkill happened. SOS we know blocked Dav. So the only way for knuckles to be scum is if random made the N1 kill.

Nah, scum can generally do both

As for not using the global last night, something tells me Fire might've just won precedence on the list of actions.

[Aj The Epic]

Aj is downright lying about what I did N1.
I already said i used sword dance to get a extra vote instead of try to roleblock.

Also I never said any of my abilities were 1 time use.
So many lies.

I had assumed Fire was a multi-shot RB but he's a 1 shot JOAT so we don't have that again.

Also, thinking of it, this makes FIRE likely to be town. This is because SCUM would've dropped SoS' global role block ability last night expecting the dave vig and would've taken a free NK, forced the lynch during the day and at least expanded the amount of days they could get out of it.

[Aj The Epic]

but SOS not using the global last night still means the remaining scum had something more important to use

So global RB would happen before individual role block?

[Aj The Epic]

Xtoxm and I talked and we were concluding:

The night SoS died, she attempted the NK. We know they can't use both an action and NK the same night.
This means her other scum has something more important that the global role block to fulfill that night.
Out of the roles remaining, firebringer seems to be the most likely partner. Knuckles role feels too baren but unless he's an SK we don't feel that slot is scum.

Davesto is the obvious one to be making kills if we can't determine it otherwise. However, 2 mafia seem far too little an amount.

Therefore, it's my belief that the d2 gambit was to clear one scum absolutely from lynching regardless of cost. I think at this point it's safe to assume Starbuck as town and Xtox/Myself are confirmed. Firebringer AGAIN has double votes so this is another dangerous day to lynch anyone else.

[Aj The Epic]

bar some crazy gambit where dave shoots sos as scum... Which would also explain the one nk, but doesn't explain lack global RB when Dave has claimed his role is unaffected. Unless Fire's shot beats out global rb...

And you have two votes in note voting. EZPZ

[Aj The Epic]

Well I guess the question is:

Dave, did you make the NK?

[Aj The Epic]

Lol I have a cop claim for me. Starbuck wasn't even alive to make a kill. Keep trying though.

[Aj The Epic]

Dave, you realize admitting to a night kill doesn't mean you're scum, right?

[Aj The Epic]

I doubt any passive abilities exist in this game. To touch base, there's been none so far. At this point I'm assuming town fire.

[Aj The Epic]

Nosferatu Kefka Palazzo - Obliterated Day 1
A Simple Plan Pete - Lynched Day 1

Dongempire Yoshi - Killed Night 1

randomidget Link - Lynched Day 2

Sound of Silence Astro Boy - Killed Night 2

grapes Ivan - Lynched Day 3

Vedith CO Andy - Killed Night 3

There's actually no proof Dave isn't scum...

[Aj The Epic]

Yes there is. He killed SOS. You are not selling me that he NKed his fucking scumbuddy to cover up an awful D1 claim as group scum. Not happening.

Except the fact that if dave didn't do it we'd have an immediate and definite issue with dave. There's also the fact that on no night has two kills gone through and I'm not putting it past scum to make a gambit like that when SoS was confirmed going to die.

[Aj The Epic]

And we still can't explain the redirect logic if nacho is scum. You CAN'T sell me scum trying to self kill night 1 and I'm not sold that they wanted Dong over someone else like, Idk, a vig.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Nachomomma

I guess it really doesn't matter, though, since we can finish off the other tonight.

[Aj The Epic]

This is essentially L-1 by the way.

[Aj The Epic]

We're getting close to not being able to afford it. It could be four people dead if we completely miss everything (Starbuck, Nacho, Dave, scumkill all die). Starbuck comes back for four alive, one of you and I remain, firebringer remains. At that point, you pray to god fire doesn't have double and just kill him.

[Aj The Epic]

Actually no. If we miss everything and starbuck is town, Fire/survivor you and me creates a scum win.

[Aj The Epic]

Actually

Fire can't both block actions at him and have double votes.

Checkmate atheists.

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah, tbh that gambit made more sense in my head than fire being scum...

[Aj The Epic]

I was confirmed town so I don't understand how you expect to push my lynch?

[Aj The Epic]

In your defense, you were dead if that didn't happen. Even then, I wasn't convinced.

Also, Xtoxm and I had a neighborhood. It was going to be more difficult than that especially with the consistent 1 kill a night pattern.

[Aj The Epic]

Random, you got lynched because you derailed a town wagon. And really, your move almost cost your team the game in one move.

[Aj The Epic]

Interesting scum chat.

The issue I see is that we had THREE suspects: Dave, Nacho, Fire. We got into mylo safely with only one alive. Xtoxm had basically no doubt I was town (we had a neighborhood and had been discussing theories the entire time) and I believe he also put in a vig shot at fire (picked from Nacho?) so we were securing fire to die to win that game. You would've had to pull off something masterful to have convinced Xtoxm of me being scum after the n1 neighbor + cop clear.