Mini 1724: Gameboy Advance Mafia (Abandoned)

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eyo

vedith is loltown

i thought sound of silence was scummy at first, then realized they're obvtown, but then realized they're more nulltown

xtoxm is obvscum, though

VOTE: xtoxm

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anyone here play with nosferatu before? feels awkward and i have trouble reading awkward

@starbuck im whatever flavor you want me to be

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i joined this game because nintendo mostly

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(and also to win, heh)

plus the one week deadline should be a nice change of pace

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getting some bad vibes from davsto

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Oh, and I'm gonna say no to a mass claim and then hope the discussion of it dies with this page.

Just flavor seems pointless as well.

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mostly a gut churn, vedith

but to put it into words - the thing about hydras not signing sounds like something someone would say who wants to say something but couldn't think of anything else to say, or something

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not sure you're fully jiving with what im putting down but that's fair enough

ya'll played a lot together i take it?

whacha think of starbuck?

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Gonna say that "hydras please sign" is a very common sentiment. Iv'e only been in like 6 games, but every hydra in them was asked to sign.

this is why i don't like explaining gut reads, nobody ever gets it

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hey xtoxm why Aj over like any of the other 4 or 5 peeps who weren't down to claim?

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okay, davsto is probably town

really not liking a simple plans posts

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dongempire, thoughts on anyone atm?

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Yeah, I'm not interested in this mass claim idea either. AJ appears town based on the sentiment that the mass claim is a bad idea.

VOTE: Random

A bulletproof claim seems a bit out of place, especially unaccompanied by flavor text. Hence why i don't think the claim idea is worthwhile, because they break the game.

Pedit: wait, that's nacho + sonic? Fuck my life...

This is mostly the post I'm referring to. (though the other couple aren't all too impressive either) The reasoning for the Aj townread is meh. Like, easy to do as either alignment. And wasn't the only person to hold that opinion anyway.

Also don't really agree with the vote, which, is mostly null, but the reasoning makes like no sense to me. And as a whole seems kinda rushed.

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Which ones? He only has 3.

scroll down dummy

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If you could dayvig someone right now who would it be?

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Why are you bothering with such a question on page 6? You shouldn't have the kind of conviction yet to say you'd dayvig anyone.

really? cuz there's a couple people i'd totally dayvig the crap out of atm

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dayvig: grapes

wanna fight?

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Well if that dayvig goes through and grapes is town, I might lay a vote over there too. For now though, its scumlean at best.

willing to bet like, all my djinns that it's not real

why the scumlean?

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VOTE: a simple plan

this one will flip scum

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don't particularly think xtoxms scum, knuckles is more meh over scum imo

i'd really like to purge A simple plan, much more scummy

4 posts and 2 votes containing wack setup spec or surface level reasoning

like im pretty certain he's just zeroing in on easy stuff to sling dirt on

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So I've read stuff mostly. And will be free today and tomorrow so I can help us figure out a lynch.

From what I'm hearing of ASP. Doesn't sound like a bad lynch at all.

Gonna look into starbuck now and see what's going on there.

Not voting vedith today, or probably ever.

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isod starbuck and yea i could lynch that

she hasn't given any townreads, which feels pretty off

and yea i'll get flack for this but i got super beetlejuice vibes from her showing up directly after the dayvig and got a couple votes

like, it'd be another story if she had an outstanding super town catch up but it was pretty lackluster imo - just a lot of empty comments and like no hard stances taken, in particular didn't like the super waffle on ASP (who to anyone paying attention to the gamestate is pretty much the likeliest wagon to get traction right now)

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would flashwagon randommidget as well

iso is a wastleland

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Trust me, I know. I just logged on and started reading/catching up from where I left off.

that's fine and dandy; but also not the largest issue ive got with you

could you possibly go into who you think is town/scum a bit?

how good do you feel about that ASP vote?

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honestly thinking about it ASP is probably a better vig shot, as would be random but bulletproof and all that

SoS, could you go into your thoughts on starbuck? I recall you had some suspicions there but don't remember if you elaborated.

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It'd be cool if we could stay optimistic here.

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And I don't sense any real resistance to ASP, at all, though. Which worries me some. Yea I was enthusiastic about it earlier but I'm more meh on him now.

Like he hasn't even responded to the prod so it's not like he's thread dodging.

On the other hand I feel some invisible resistance to starbuck. In the form of not many peeps talking about her among other things.

VOTE: starbuck

Subject to change I guess. Like I said I'll be around. It's pretty dependent on her response to me at the end of the day, though.

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Huh. That's not the reaction I was expecting.

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You could have just asked me from the get go, though, instead of the way that you just went about it.

A bit of pressure brings out alignment. I find it plausible that someone coming off a long hiatus would retain old habits - but giving townreads is a fundamental of mafia and as town you do it almost unconsciously (or at least I do). So if you happened to roll scum your first game back that would kinda fit with how off your approach to this game has felt so far.

unfortunately I don't have the time (or desire really) to meta you to find out for certain

Sound of Silence- town
Vedith - leaning scum
Davsto - leaning scum
Aj The Epic - town

Is there more to these reads? If you've given thoughts before just link posts or w/e.

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Among what other things?

a day till deadline and the leading wagon stalls for 24 hours at two votes

and universal rabble(or at least no strong resistance) about an alternative lynch on a dude with about 4 posts

who also spookily enough hasn't gotten much headway - i think it's just there's too much -not playing the game- going on more than anything which admittedly waters that down a good bunch

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You don't need pressure to ask a question. That's what I'm saying. If you outright wanted to know where my thoughts on current players are, all you had to do was ask. Instead, you went about using it to try and garner a flimsy case on me. If you don't have the answer, and you never asked to begin with, how can I know what information that you want to see? I don't. I'm not a mind reader. So using that to try and paint me as scum is scummy in, and of, itself.

Without dwelling on the semantics of this. No, that's not what I did at all.

Thinking you're scummy for not giving any townreads up till that point in the game and then asking for your thoughts are two different things. One is pushing you and the other is trying to get a better read on you.

You don't have to explain the game to me either. I know how mafia works. I comprehend that townreads are fundamental, but just because I didn't outright list every player in the game and give my reads doesn't make me scum or scummy. There's plenty of folks who haven't done that either and I don't see you tunneling them. You didn't even look at me until my wagon started.

I'm not just gonna ignore your wagon especially with the limited options we've been given. I wanted my opinion on the record and haven't paid much attention to you up till that point cuz you've been almost a nonentity.

As for Vedith and Davsto, you can look a few posts up for my thoughts on them.

Well, vedith is probably town. Call it gut but, whatever scumtell you pulled off the wiki that you think you've got him pinned with will probably be not all that effective for him. Davsto is a claimed vig, I'm not gonna worry about sorting that slot for a while.

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No, honey, I'm saying vedith is scummy regardless of alignment.

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weeeeeeeeeeeeird

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meh

VOTE: asp

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I think that's L1 cuz it's 6 to lynch now.

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looks town driven to me (except random but that's more of a toss up than anything)

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It's a bit of a grey area if that hammer will count or not because it was a quote fail.

@mod - VC please?

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Dav why would you shoot the closest thing we have to a doc on N1?

Would be cool to figure out what happened to the scum kill. Only possibilities are No kill (seems unlikely) Fire blocked someone (possible) vedith's kill was blocked by dong (maybe, though would be a shit play on vediths part knowing a blocker is scum reading you relatively hard) scum shot random (meh probs not)

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hey xtoxm if you want a claim from me you're gonna have to get it the old fashion way - a good start would be rally some votes by making a case, you'll probably not get very far with 'gut'

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Is this game not a bastard?
My role is pretty odd, don't want to reveal how it works yet though.

your predecessor already claimed, who did your slot block?

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bring it on boys

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my townblock is dav/vedith/knuckles/xtoxm/aj

everything else is a blob of goop

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VOTE: firebringer

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your push is making me rethink my read on you a bit, xtoxm, but then again i haven't been going out of my way to be transparent this game

fire's entrance pinged me a bit - ill go into this some if people want

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What's the chance of Dav having a 3rd party type alignment? Or is this game too small for that?

terrible post, testing the waters + a bit early to be 3P specing - also don't really get how so many peeps thought the ate tantrum yesterday was town at all

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I just explained how it's a terrible post. And I don't recall making a case on you.

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Not really? Like I said I wanted to give my thoughts on your slot cuz there wasn't much time till deadline and there didn't look like we had a lot of options to lynch. You can tell the thoughts are kinda scattered.

Put it like this. When I'm 100% confident that you're scum, you'll know.

Like, I'm trying to do other things atm. You'll notice my vote isn't on you.

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For all that effort, it's hard for me to believe that you don't "recall" it.

What's your point?

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Actually dong requested vedith to be investigated, not NKed. So dong blocking there still adds up imo. There's no way to know for sure but..

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For all that effort, it's hard for me to believe that you don't "recall" it.

What's your point?

That you just denied making a case and voting me, based on that flimsiness, when you were the one who pursued it the most.

So are you calling me scum or not?

Let me know when you're ready to talk about things that actually matter.

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Point is, starbuck. You keep pushing this weird semantics angle

"Oh, you made a case on me now you've forgotten about it."

And I'll show you what a case actually looks like.

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I'm confused how knuckles would be redirected to dong, when they claimed one shot dayvig?

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ohhh

VOTE: dave

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you might be town, then

also why do ya think im hating?

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thanks!

who do you think is teh scums?

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probably, why the flying fuck does scum fake claim vig, though?

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Because people won't lynch it?
And in a game like this it's easy to have a reason why the kill didn't happen...

true

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thanks!

who do you think is teh scums?

I don't know, think its probably one of Vedith or Davsto. Not sure which atm.

well dave just got caught lying about his target, that do anything for ya?

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Are you really threatening me? That's pretty scumtastic in, and of, itself.

yea

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No more votes please. I want dave to explain what's up. Something feels off here.

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I'm a bit slow. But explain how scum having a RB would be a redemption of davsto straight up lying about who he targeted for a kill?

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Dav's play just makes so little sense as scum to me.

This is pretty much what I'm thinking. If dave is groupscum you'd have to argue he's a complete idiot.

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Gotcha.

scum try and kill knuckles + RB dave - actually makes a lot of sense

UNVOTE:

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hmm

VOTE: firebringer

his hope on to dave looks bad now, plus the "vedith or dave is scum" is fency as fuck

pedit: vedith plz stop being bad for 5 minutes

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Coming from you?

ouch

You really think that we have a Dayvig and a strongman vig?

I dunno. I'm not the mod.

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No love for my SOS crusade? Why do people think she's town?

don't have a real read there

quick iso skim impression in one word: floaty

would compromise lynch

thoughts on fire/starbuck?

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Explain what's town about being reluctant to engage up until you've got a wagon on you - tossing out a readslist with like 50 null reads and throwing up a shitton of AtE?

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Well idk about that stuff but the way he claimed is SO town. and why is he telling us about strongman if hes scum?

615 is about starbuck, i agree about dave

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davsto, who are you thinking of shooting?

why did you try and shoot vedith?

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I've been kinda thinking about Firebringers claim. If we're assuming dave was blocked by scum, then a town roleblocker seems hella inelegant.

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though the 50% to fail might of been to fix exactly that, so meh

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As much as I'd love a starbuck vig, isn't she still stumped?

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I've played with wgeurts/been in his games a lot and I don't think he would do that.

Don't think he would do what?

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you're probably the CW to firebringer tbh

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Is it wrong of me if I have reasons to call everyone town

Because that's how I feel about this game right now

yea dave please shoot this

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unfortunately, aj is town

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@mod - when is deadline?

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it's a slot that needsa purgin'

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like, they've coasted most of the game and i swear ive given my thoughts there before so..?

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one thing that's been kinda bothering me is how broken random midgets claim sounds and im not sure taking it at face value is such a smart idea - like he's basically scum by play

i still think fire's scum but i dunno, spitting out content directly before death is making me rethink a bit

starbucks role does make a bit more sense as town i guess

like i said i could compromise on SOS

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We think Dong targeted Knuckles last night, meaning he was the NK and therefore town.

Unless they just targeted Dong, then it doesn't matter who he visited.

doesn't seem like a high priority kill, though

whereas knuckles kinda was

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VOTE: SoS

honk honk

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If knuckles is a scum dayvig then fuck this game, is basically my thought on the matter.

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SoS please claim

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go ahead and put focus on me then

like, whatya wanna know? where's this read change coming from?

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Well if they're town they could have info or something? Or they have a claim that's town as fuck? I dunno.

Just saying if anyone hammers beforehand I will lynch you with prejudice tomorrow. Regardless of flip.

We've got time right?

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Dave it'd be really cool to know who you're shooting. I don't trust your judgment frankly.

And might as well strongman because we don't really need you shooting anymore anyway, just want to confirm your role.

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I don't really remember you scumreading me there but okay.

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Pretty sure scum and vigs should have much different targets in mind anyway?

Like you're losing me a bit vedith.

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Oh yeah, you didn't see my tape I sent to Vyse...
It had every single read I had.

oh.

in retrospect my push on you was legit scummy so you'd have to be p bad not to i guess :p

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No vedith I'm saying your point about scum knowing who to kill instead is bs because scum aren't going to kill scummy people because they want those people mislynched or those people are in fact scum and won't die anyway.

Vigs kill scummy people scum kill townie people. yadda yadda yadda

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Yeah but the town thought you were town.
And it's the exact same thing here. You are doing scummy things, are you the only person to not reveal?
And yet people think you are town?

so you're saying in a completely different game/playerlist i was scum and was townread a bit so here since im townread a bit then im scum?

are you really this horrible?

there's actually a good amount of people who think im scum here ftr, shows how much you're paying attention

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I don't think you understand...
It is who Dav thinks is scummy looking, not who you neither I think is scummy.
His top scummy read could be our top town read.

If he is going to shoot someone who looks scummy, why does he need to say first?

because he's outed and I don't trust his judgment because he shot at you, a townread of mine

as i said like 10 minutes ago

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I'm not telling him who to shoot. I just wanna know. If it's a terrible shot I'll let him know. If not then NBD.

There's enough meh in this game that a vig should have no issues anyway. But him shooting at you makes me wonder.

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No if it's a bad shot I'd say don't shoot that. But yea it's up to him at the end of the day I guess.

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In other news. If Fire's scum then vedith is looking like a good buddy candidate. So I guess I wouldn't mind a flip there either way, dave.

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If SoS is scum. Then fire and vedith are

probably

town. Which is the way I'm leaning atm.

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i think your 626 is weird as fuck to say for someone who never ended up voting for firebringer

actually that's not even just indicative of buddies that could also be scum trying to push a mislynch while staying off too, fuck

why are you voting me again?

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So why can't me and SoS be scum together?

i didn't say you couldn't be

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yea i get it you want a 1v1 im in the midst of isoing you and seeing if you're actually scum or not

but in the mean time let's get some reasons maybe?

starbuck you too you've been calling me scum for a while and haven't voted for me yet. how come?

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actually i'm isoing vedith and it's looking like a scum iso... i really got knock the habit of just rolling with my early gut townreads

scum bulletproof factory kinda fits with a strongman vig right?

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or a vig that if forced to use a strongman to hit scum would not be able to shoot anymore i guess

anyway, i invite you all to iso vedith

his hop on to me after voting SoS is scum hoping off the wagon to avoid being tied to a mislynch or as he said(lol) - mebbe distancing

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Well trying to find out who the vig is shooting. With a stupid reason that they might be going for someone on your town list.
Not revealing when you are basically the last person to.
Your attitude to who is scum and not scum
A lot of keeping under the radar with pointless posts.
The fact you just start to try and push me as scum even though you were town reading me until I started to say that you were scum.

none of these things are scummy though

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starbuck, you keep using the word opportunistic like lynching you would be like some kind of travesty to town or something (assuming you are town) and that i had something great to gain for compromising on a lynch with a low amount of time left in the day

your third party spec was bad at best and scummy as shit at worst. i didn't like it moreso because you pretty much asked (ie testing the waters) the game if dave could be third party when there's literally no way to tell the difference at this point. SK hunting is scummy, the tepid way you did it pinged the shit outta me.

The only thing making me think that you could possibly be this terrible and actually have a town role PM is you role. About it really. Hence why my vote isn't on you.

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(psst random why would you do that i was trying to see how many scummies i could get to vote me )

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omg you are desperate xD

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pretty sure gladiators have to target themselves and someone else

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So why did he say FB and someone else?
Does he not know his role?

oh, didn't really pay attention to that detail

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I think the fact that random has claimed unlynchable and opted to gladiate himself and someone who he's scumreading pretty hard - means he's either town or ballsy as fuck scum.

(unlynchable is just stupid for a scumrole)

I wouldn't be opposed to either proving that claim or just lynching firebringer because I still think firebringer could be scum. So it's not a bad move really.

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VOTE: fire

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hence why i said i wouldn't mind testing it - ie lynching him

but im leaning that this play makes him more town so I'd rather lynch fire

like, if you're scum and claiming unlynchable for lolz you don't put yourself in the lynchpool here, especially when you're up against some traction already

IE a against a double voter, probably some scum maybe and the numerous VIs we've got

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Tell me the fact that he did this just as grapes was starting to get pressure was just a coincidence.

Actually, don't, I won't believe it.

this is a cherry pick because SoS was at L1 or L2 so why ignore that in favor of me?

and i could give two fucks less about 2 chuckleheads/scumbutts voting me - and if random and I are buddies I trust myself to not get lynched over him because there's more support for a lynch on him than me for sure

this also assumes he's not unlynchable

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ur case is garbage and deserves to be discredited, sorry

it's basically a list of grapes did this thing i didn't like - therefore scum and im impressed at your sheer lack of filter for bad posting, frankly

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are you people serious?

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I'd much rather see a firebringer scumflip.

And it's weird how much of a landslide the vote is considering fire was at L1 for like a week.

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the majority of the townblock was already voting the person he gladiated

there's no way in hell they're scum together either

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why is random scum?

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and it doesn't worry you at all that people are sheeping you with reasoning like that

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yea let's wait until a day left to reset the vote count

like what are we even doing right now

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and if it's town then all you're doing is creating chaos and making scum harder to lynch, as if it wasn't hard enough already like ugh

im phoning it in the rest of this game fuckit

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VOTE: Firebringer.

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Seriously, it's fucking obvious scum are driving my wagon. My guess is that it is the scum that bussed fb. There is no way that the entire town decided to stop scumreading fb. And once I flip town they can easily hop back on the fb wagon for town points.

Not even that. The constituency of your wagon vs. firebringer at their peeks is vastly different.

I think like davsto is the only common name.

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yea if it means not no lynching i suppose - even though it's weird because it's probably gonna be about the same as a no lynch, except random will be more than likely town if it is

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I don't really get how that's a scum slip. Like, I mean maybe if you stretch it out to mean that he's lying about his unlynchable shot then maybe? But people kinda say 'when i flip town' all the time out of instinct and I like to actually scum hunt for real and not look for nitpicky shit like that to sling dirt with.

I've already said random has been scum by play earlier. But I still don't really think scum gladiating vs a double voter while people are all ready set to go on lynching them. Just seems like a shitty play to make.

Maybe if SoS is also scum since that was kinda just sitting at L1 when it happened but that's all just preflips.

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So if you think I'm scum with random why do you care about my opinion?

Like, your pushes have all been pretty shitty and I'm kinda still going with you're just terrible and not scum but go ahead and keep testing me.

Why does random gladiate to 'save me' when I've only got 2 votes? And SoS is at L2? How does that fit together for you?

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My goal was stop anyone else fucking with the lynch.

If this was your only worry I think you would have just hammered.

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Anyways, me Davsto and Vedith I think are conf town.

davsto is 1000% not mafia(nice shot bruh) you kinda? vedith not really, you know he buses as scum (though im leaning town but it felt really weird how he was trying super hard to tie me to randommidget as a buddy like the entirety of yesterday for pretty shit reasons)

and even an elementary inuit child could look at the final vote count and tell somethings kinda fishy, like scum bused the shit out of randommidget for some strange reason

my theory is they didn't know his red potion wouldn't end up working and were going for towncred later + no lynch and failed hard

random didn't know how gladiates work - it adds up that he wouldn't be aware that he could only use one item per phase - that's about the only thing that's making any semblance of sense to me atm

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grapes you're gonna want to fullclaim in your next post

I'm Ivan from Golden Sun. I can read peoples minds and figure out what alignment they are. And I've been informed that there's a single townsperson in the game that if investigated will turn up mafia. :/

yes im a cop now please remove your nasty votes people

-why ive been playing 'scummy'
-why ive not been transparent

and ive been kinda targeting people I'm like 65% on for town - to hopefully avoid the guilty conflict altogether
i don't think sharing results today is optimal but will if people want

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also why i wanted to know who davsto was shooting :p

I kinda thought he'd shoot SoS so no I didn't end up copping them last night thankfully.

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I was never against a random lynch.

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would flashwagon randommidget as well

iso is a wastleland

honestly thinking about it ASP is probably a better vig shot, as would be random but bulletproof and all that

SoS, could you go into your thoughts on starbuck? I recall you had some suspicions there but don't remember if you elaborated.

looks town driven to me (except random but that's more of a toss up than anything)

one thing that's been kinda bothering me is how broken random midgets claim sounds and im not sure taking it at face value is such a smart idea - like he's basically scum by play

i still think fire's scum but i dunno, spitting out content directly before death is making me rethink a bit

starbucks role does make a bit more sense as town i guess

like i said i could compromise on SOS

I think the fact that random has claimed unlynchable and opted to gladiate himself and someone who he's scumreading pretty hard - means he's either town or ballsy as fuck scum.

(unlynchable is just stupid for a scumrole)

I wouldn't be opposed to either proving that claim or just lynching firebringer because I still think firebringer could be scum. So it's not a bad move really.

This is kinda where I start to go. Oh okay Fire and random are probably not scum together. I thought they both could be scum still (and was caught in that weird limbo stage of having to pick a world) the traction that random got despite fire already being run up early threw my judgment into a wacky place. and thought fire was scummier than random after the gladiate play.

Gladiators are usually town. But after the flips I've seen this game I'm not taking roles are anything into account any longer.

Why would random as scum gladiate firebringer and make himself part of the lynchpool? It looked town to me and thus why I wanted a firebringer flip > a random one.

Now we know that he likely gladiated to save SoS who would of likely been a compromise lynch.

And literally tried to SCAPEGOAT me because I happened to get a couple votes.

if you think im buddies with that then jfc

Seriously, it's fucking obvious scum are driving my wagon. My guess is that it is the scum that bussed fb. There is no way that the entire town decided to stop scumreading fb. And once I flip town they can easily hop back on the fb wagon for town points.

Not even that. The constituency of your wagon vs. firebringer at their peeks is vastly different.

I think like davsto is the only common name.

This is still true. And supports the fact that one of them was probably scum.

I don't see why my having that thought process as town is so hard to believe.

[grapes]

Like even if you think I'm scum. We should still let me try and get one more clear. Because it's literally autowin at that point.

And scum will more than likely have to kill me. Removing a mislynch from play.

[grapes]

and im pretty sure this is the last scum anyway

VOTE: knuckles

[grapes]

If I tell you who I cleared that gives scum easy as fuck targets!

I mean if I'm getting lynched anyway then w/e fuckit. But I really, really don't think that's optimal.

Like, where are all the investigative roles? I'm like the first one to claim.

[grapes]

There's an astetic. Cop makes setup sense.

Someone please get me off fucking L1.

[grapes]

Fine. Aj and xtoxm are confirmed town.

I copped aj because his day 1 play was lurkish and lackluster. There were hints of town in there but him sidelining his vote end of day 1 did look a helluva lot like trying to stay off a mislynch wagon. And getting a result on him would save me a lot of headache.

xtoxm because I wanted to check someone off the random wagon - to gauge if scum bussed or not better and thought either I or SoS was a likely vig shot - plus, he's flopped his read on me about 4 times now and has never really gave a reason was about 45% on him for town

[grapes]

Guys Grapes is scum...
He would have said the names he investigated already otherwise.

No. I already explained why it's dumb to fucking out results. It gives scum easier time with kills. But since you guys are probably gonna lynch me anyway. There you go.

[grapes]

If it's not knuckles then it's probably vedith.

OR we were up against a 2 man scum team plus an SK. There's a pretty good reason to call everyone town. Knuckles is basically just PoE. And vedith buses as scum + the reasons he had for calling random and I buddies blatantly ignored SoS (flipped scum) which fit that profile a lot better than it did me.

I've seen him do it before. And scum probably did think the red potion woulda worked. Just calling it now. Random misread the shit out of his role PM. He even admitted it.

[grapes]

VEDITH WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK RANDOM GLADIATES AND OUTRIGHT ADMITS HE DID IT TO PROTECT ME AS SCUM BUDDIES YOU'VE SEEN MY SCUMGAME I WOULD NEVER LET STUPID SHIT LIKE THAT FLY

[grapes]

But you know I could keep you alive... so why billshit?

I don't know. And that's even more reason to not out my results yet.

One more night and this game is autowin.

Literally iso me and tell me im on a scumteam with random/SoS.

You can't because it's painfully obvious I'm not.

[grapes]

Here's what this game is looking like atm.

conftown:
grapes
xtoxm
aj
davsto - shot scum

probstown:
starbuck - don't think scum have two unlynchable roles
vedith - championed a lynch on scum (meh buses literally every game as scum, have metad)
fire - randoms hop onto him wasn't scum bussing and the later gladiate makes them likely not buddies

knuckles - ??? shot town? early distancing with SoS?

[grapes]

and yes i said early i don't think we're dealing with a scum dayvig but the roles that have flipped make me highly doubt it's a good idea to use that reasoning anymore

[grapes]

I think you're scum because your push on me as wack. You're trying to tie me together with random based on bullshit. If you're town work with me to solve the game and get your head out of your ass.

[grapes]

Why can I not think yesterday that fire was more likely scum than random? Why wouldn't I have bussed as scum? Just think for a fucking minute.

[grapes]

It's pretty fucking obvious when you read the flip and he literally said

drink red potion

in thread.

[grapes]

You're like talking to a 5 year old. Is anyone else here?

Can we not have me at L1?

[grapes]

Grapes, which order did you investigate?

aj then xto

[grapes]

reads change? like im not sure what you're getting at

[grapes]

@Grapes, do you see what I see?

not really

[grapes]

VOTE: firebringer

You believe randomidget made a gladiate between himself and a scum? You seriously, honest-to-god think that he made it so that scum literally couldn't be lynched while a large wagon was building on you, who you "know" as town?

I call bs.

i made that vote like 500 posts ago

[grapes]

Davsto read the thread dude. Aj is conftown.

[grapes]

why is knuckles conftown?

[grapes]

because if knuckles is town then dav is probably SK because there's yea there's not a lot left

also we're not lynching me dav, im town

[grapes]

Also, to reiterate: before any lynch, Starbuck MUST stump as long as it isn't mylo/lylo. Her not being apart of the living will confirm her eventually.

how?

[grapes]

Actually I think you claimed that day 2 already and I (plus everyone) sorta forgot.

Pretty sure it's just SK left, then. Because there's not a lot of options left. We should really let me cop vedith/firebringer just to be super sure, though. Like they're longshots as scum but I wouldn't bet the game on it.

Random and SoS had enough gadgets that it's plausible they're a two man team as well.

[grapes]

And I mean I guess it could be starbuck? But like her shattering and effectively hammering a buddy like that seems weird. And we can't really confirm her via stump until any potential third parties are out of the way.

[grapes]

The reason to not lynch me today is because I can get another clear. I'm a cop. It's the correct play.

Not even being biased.

[grapes]

VOTE: davsto

[grapes]

If I was scum I'd have given up by now. Like all I'm asking for is another clear. That cements a town win.

Literally nobody left can be scum. Dav is SK.

Like we're a few days from lylo, whoever taught you to lynch a claimed cop because their clears happen to be redundant taught you wrong. Literally how would I have known you guys were basically clear already anyway?

[grapes]

What do I gain from getting one more mislynch? I'm the last scum and people are breathing down my neck as it is.

Trust me I wouldn't have even bothered.

[grapes]

Game is solved anyway, though, I guess. Just wish people would realize I'm fucking obviously town.

Town:
grapes
xtoxm
aj
davsto
knuckles?

probstown
starbuck
vedith
firebringer

[grapes]

third party and town are arguably indistinguishable

[grapes]

when everything is basically town outside some tinfoil shit - that's when you start SK hunting - and it's probably the guy with a gun

[grapes]

people who aren't confirmed town by the mod

[grapes]

I guess 'not scum' would be more appropriate if we're nitpicking here

[grapes]

because nothing else really makes much sense - i can be SURE of that pretty much with

one more clear

[grapes]

you're just straight up not ready what im posting and im close to just saying fuck it

lynching you - the one person that could be third party realistically would allow us to confirm starbuck as town i can cop firebringer and likely confirm him as town

we can literally win the game by lynching you by tomorrow pretty much and you dummies wanna lynch me because lol grapes is so scummy lol xD xD xD

fuckit

im unbookmarking this thread peace

[grapes]

3rd party spec would be ew if everyone wasn't pretty clearly town numbnuts

[grapes]

kay guys i flipped town what are you lynching next?

[grapes]

kay guys i flipped town what are you lynching next?

[grapes]

fucking misrep dav i wanted you to shoot SOMETHING

SHOOTING SCUM DOESN'T CLEAR YOU AS TOWN

EVERYTHING ALIVE HAS A COMPELLING AS FUCK TOWNCASE AND OR IS CONFTOWN VIA COP CLEAR ARE YOU DAFT OR WHAT?

Like if you are sk just give up please?

[grapes]

grapes if you're town then we come back to fire/knuckles

LET ME COP FIRE THEN

[grapes]

YEA GONNA HAVE TO CALL BULLSHIT THERE DAV HOLD ON LET ME GRAB THE QUOTE

[grapes]

Is it wrong of me if I have reasons to call everyone town

Because that's how I feel about this game right now

yea dave please shoot this

[grapes]

i mean its still probably grapes, i dont think town has a cop on top of what me and aj have, and hes trying really hard to buy himself an extra day and flailing, doesn't ring town

no shit

with another clear we literally cannot lose enough we game throw brah

we should really lynch dav, though, everyone else is probably town

9-3-1 isn't balanced

[grapes]

Can I have permission not to wait for Starbuck to vote grapes? Because the more they AtE the more and more I want to vote them :/

if you want to claim scum go for it

if star doesn't stump she's scum