Mini 1724: Gameboy Advance Mafia (Abandoned)

[Firebringer]

Hey guys!

Whats up?

So haven't read everything but I gather Xtoxm and Davsto are town.
Vedith likely BP town, but have to ISO him a little more.

[Firebringer]

If Vedith doesn't say Hi to me in the next few minutes he is scum for being rude to me.

.....

[Firebringer]

Is this game not a bastard?
My role is pretty odd, don't want to reveal how it works yet though.

[Firebringer]

Okay then, someone is lying.
That is good at narrowing stuff down.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: firebringer

your push is making me rethink my read on you a bit, xtoxm, but then again i haven't been going out of my way to be transparent this game

fire's entrance pinged me a bit - ill go into this some if people want

I did not block anyone for your information.

Stop hating on me cause I am special ;(

[Firebringer]

you might be town, then

also why do ya think im hating?

It was a joke. Not to be taken serious.

I know you aint a hater grapes

[Firebringer]

thanks!

who do you think is teh scums?

I don't know, think its probably one of Vedith or Davsto. Not sure which atm.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Davsto
So there you go..

[Firebringer]

I used AB ability last night to make myself a double voter.
Phone posting wll post my full role later.

[Firebringer]

So why did you not advise at the time? It was pretty obvious that we would notice...

It wasn't like I was intentionally hiding it.
I just didn't mention.

Omission of facts is not same thing as lying.

[Firebringer]

Okay I am Trainer Brendan.
I have Mudkip as my pokemon.

I have 3 moves:
Mud Slap-Basically chance percentage of roleblocking a player.
Sword Dance-Gives me two votes for next day.
And XXXX (Not Revealing this because reasons)

[Firebringer]

Also mudkip can't learn swords dance.

Well it can in my role pm lol.

[Firebringer]

Did you role block dave?

No, I did not.
I used Sword Dance to have more votes.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: firebringer
I've played with wgeurts/been in his games a lot and I don't think he would do that. Also your role kind of seems like a governor.
Why did you think double vote was more useful than a roleblock?

I hadn't read up on the thread yet, so I would be roleblocking without reads.
Which is just randomly roleblocking a player that could or not be scum.
Would you have perferred that?

Cause I thought it was anti town to do so.

[Firebringer]

I'm sure if you had asked the backup mod for a day to read through the game to give yourself some steady footing they would have let it happen.

Why did you not ask?

I never give indepth analysis on my reads anyways, so holding up the game for everyone else isn't my style.

[Firebringer]

1) Asks for full role pm
2) Player Then gives almost all of role pm but hides part because mafia would want it.
3) Votes him without giving reasons.

All seems legit.

[Firebringer]

That's a really horrible answer, especially when placing into an in-depth power role like you have.

Sorry that I don't play how you do.
I can figure out alignments and reads as game progresses and I personally interact with players than just reading other peoples interactions better anyways.

[Firebringer]

Well Pepto lied, I don't know what else to tell you.

[Firebringer]

Lol at random midget asking for me to randomly block a person.

[Firebringer]

I didn't realize I was at L-2.
Thats shit.

Try better at scumhunting guys. It ain't me.

Jesus.

[Firebringer]

my vote is to random or FB today. One of them is scum.

You hurt my feelings with this statement ;(

[Firebringer]

Yeah you hurt my feelings by night killing me in that mini. I was going to lynch you, too

Well thats why I NK you.

YOU WERE ON TO ME!

[Firebringer]

But i'd like to point out that Fire has a crappy claim, has done no scumhunting since replacing and his wagon fell apart for no real reason.

Wait, I am at L-2. How did my wagon fall apart?

And you are right, I haven't done any scumhunting.
I rather standby read and comment when players address me.

If you think my lack of scumhunting makes me scummy so be it.

[Firebringer]

Hey wgeurts you apparently fucked up and gave me Sword Dance which makes no sense because I guess Mudkip can't learn that shit.

Get your shit fixed you.

[Firebringer]

You know... I'm guessing you don't play much pokemon.

No. I haven't played it in years.
You guys could be lying to me for all I know.

[Firebringer]

Ok,even if the mod did make an error, and the claim is real.

Why is Fire town?

Xtoxm, how am I not town.

Look at my avatar and say with a straight face:
"Fire is scum"

And even I will be convinced and self vote.

[Firebringer]

We aren't. There's also many sites that allow you to access move databases for pokemon. My hesitation is I don't think it's fake because you'd at least the the common decency to look up moves mudkip has (and the fact that swords dance is a +2 attack stage move DOES FIT, but isn't commonly known that it's 2 stages increase lends credence to this).

Its really really about laziness. lol

[Firebringer]

I am sorry about being lazy this game, is there anyone specifically you guys want me to look at and ISO and give an analysis off of?

Judging s ofar by interactions:
Aj is Null
Xtoxm is Town
Vedith likely Town? Not sure
Dav is likely scum.

[Firebringer]

I am playing in this game, right now.

[Firebringer]

Randommidget looks suspicious, but I am not ready to call him scum. Just Scum Leaning
Knuckles is horrible town. His focus on me is almost tunneling at this point.
Grapes is likely town? At least Town leaning.

[Firebringer]

Starbuck i have no good opinion on. I guess Town? For Now?

[Firebringer]

Do you have any questions for me? Anything I can address in particular?

What you think of Sound of Silence?

[Firebringer]

Hey grapes, since you are here.

What are your thoughts on Sound of Silence?

Cause I have such a Null read on that it scares me.

[Firebringer]

it's a slot that needsa purgin'

Okay....

[Firebringer]

I don't know if you said that, I have yet to ISO you, but you have given me a town vibe since I subbed in.

I went through Sound of Silence and their was nothing to read there.

[Firebringer]

I'm tempted to vote Firebringer now. Thinking about it, that double vote putting me at L-1 with his full knowledge and not declaring it is horrifically scummy.

lol dav, you are so god damn scummy.

Pointing out stupid stuff and calling it scummy.
I never was trying to hide it, I just forgot to mention it.

[Firebringer]

No, I am not saying its a good excuse. I am saying it really doesn't matter either way. You guys would find out either way if I said nothing (which is what happened) or I said something.

[Firebringer]

VC 2.05

Davsto (3):

Vedith, Firebringer, Firebringer

Firebringer (5):

grapes, Xtoxm, Knuckles, randommidget, Davsto

randomidget (2):

Starbuck, Aj The Epic

Not Voting:

Sound of Silence, Peptobislawl

With 11 votes, 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2015-10-20 14:01:13)

I demand you take 2 votes off because of good behavior.

I have been a very very good boy mod.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, what are your thoughts about how day 1 unfolded?

How mad would you be if I said I still haven't read most of it?

I read like 1-5 then was like "this is boring" stopped and isod you and thought "well their is nothing here to see and that makes me worried"

Went through Dav and he seems to be clinging to what I call "easy targets" which is just easy people to push because they do obviously anti town moves.

So yeah. Thats what I think.

[Firebringer]

No.
Are you serious?

[Firebringer]

7 to lynch wtf?

2 more votes on fire pls.

I expect an apology after this game for your mislynch push right now.

[Firebringer]

no chance, you're refusing to read the game, don't give a shit if you flip town doing that, you deserve the noose

And people call me anti town lol

[Firebringer]

did you somehow interpret that comment to mean i'm townreading you?

What?
Stop inferring shit.

if you're town and you don't want to play: replace out.

otherwise i'll assume you're doing nothing because you're scum

I am playing.
Stop asking me to replace out, you are pissing me off.

[Firebringer]

I read like 1-5 then was like "this is boring" stopped

this does not constitute playing the game

I am actually reading whole thread right now.
Its a shit storm the whole lot of it.

And since this game is about posting and finding reads, the fact that I am posting and engaging with ANYONE means. That I am playing the game.

You have to redefine "not playing" to constitute my actions to fit your stupid definition.

[Firebringer]

2 things:
I am not providing an analysis of everyone.

I will give you my thoughts. On everyone.
That means it could be simply "This guy is scum. End of story" or "This person is town for X, Y, Z"

[Firebringer]

I read up to Day 2.

Thoughts:
Sound of Silence is scummy. Not aligned with Knuckles, their interactions seemed very unaligned.
I think Knuckles could be scum though if SoS is not.
Randommidget I have no opinion on. Someone says they could be scum, I could see it. But honestly think SoS has higher chance of flipping scum.
Starbucks also looks bad based on voting behavior and just posts from Day 1. one of the posts struck me as espcially scummy, the one where asked if it was okay to do something without looking opportunistic.

Anyways, everyone else is town.

Except Aj. That guy is null to me.
But Town Leaning.

[Firebringer]

Starbuck's role sounds very likely town. Do you agree?

We think Dong targeted Knuckles last night, meaning he was the NK and therefore town.

Would this info have an effect on your top 3 scum?

I am not willing to strike out anyone as scum or town based on role due to the what I know so far of this game.

It seems quasi bastard complete role madness. I wouldn't put any stock into the roles.

It would only change my slight doubt of SoS to be more affirmed if this is true about Knuckles.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Sound of Silence
There put my money where my mouth is.

Not like anyone will follow me though.

[Firebringer]

Really?
Randommidget, you are so god damn stupid.

VOTE: Randommidget

Thats 2 votes already on you.

[Firebringer]

[quote="In post 940, Sound of Silence"][/quote]
I am kinda leaning on that at the moment, but w/e.

I want you dead. You are biggest scum read for me.

[Firebringer]

I am kinda leaning on that at the moment, but w/e.

I want you dead. You are biggest scum read for me.

[Firebringer]

I believe that was hammer.

For the record, what bugged me is that he'd drunk red potion in 933, but earlier on had claimed Ganondorf, which seemed out of line with flavour.

It is not hammer, if I counted right it should be L-1.

[Firebringer]

You realize your challenge was just as anti town as possible?
Like if you are legit town, that was one of the worst challenges ever.

You just limited it to two town.

[Firebringer]

So random decideds to limit all votes on everyone but me and him. Doesn't even vote me.

Really?

[Firebringer]

Why would Random be lynch immune? That makes zero sense for gladiator role mechanic.

It would be like a day vig mechanic basically....

[Firebringer]

I don't believe that claim by him at all.

[Firebringer]

So I went to roleblock Sound of Silence.
Was pretty sure he was scum.

Guess he went for kill?

Davsto shoot SoS?

Anyways, me Davsto and Vedith I think are conf town.

[Firebringer]

I guess Xtoxm can also be in the town block. Pretty sure he is town too.

[Firebringer]

I can apply some pressure to grapes,
VOTE: Grapes

Start talking, buddy!

[Firebringer]

Aj is downright lying about what I did N1.
I already said i used sword dance to get a extra vote instead of try to roleblock.

Also I never said any of my abilities were 1 time use.
So many lies.

[Firebringer]

grapes if you're town then we come back to fire/knuckles

how in the hell is it me?
I roleblocked my ally, and was challenged gladiator with him?
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!!!!!

[Firebringer]

Wait hold up hold up.

How in the hell do you know I used my night action to get double votes again?

[Firebringer]

Then how can it be me?

If i used a night action for double votes (which I did)

I can't also kill, you just said that in your openning post.

[Firebringer]

Its Starbuck or Aj.

Need to reread through stuff.

[Firebringer]

Its Starbuck or Aj.

Need to reread through stuff.

You fail at this game, if you think it was me.

Then I fail.
I am good with failing, you can only succeed if you try.

[Firebringer]

Welcome Nachomamma, how you doing?

[Firebringer]

Presumably the same as he was the last day phase

(Knuckles = Sonic/Nacho hydra)

Well apparently I don't pay attention.

Thanks for making me look stupid though Davsto.
You remember I have two votes, eh?

[Firebringer]

So let me get this straight:

If It can't possibly be Aj
Or Starbucks
Or me.

Then its Davsto or Nacho?

What? How?

[Firebringer]

welp you know where my heart lies

Vote: Firebringer

Sounds good.

[Firebringer]

I used roleblock on SoS the night before >.>

[Firebringer]

you used a 50% roleblcok
vedith was a BP giver/doctor who was shot last night

But I couldn't use my night action to get double votes last night and kill.
You not see that?

Unless you are saying I am a SK or theres 4 scum in this 13 player game.

[Firebringer]

4 mafia I should say.

[Firebringer]

SoS submitted the kill

SoS was dead last night, are you not even reading?

[Firebringer]

OH WOW SoS WASN'T ALIVE LAST NIGHT

Thats what I have been saying >.>

[Firebringer]

Why didn't you try to block the last scum last night?

I wasn't sure who was scum >.>
After grapes I didn't know who to block.

[Firebringer]

I thought have two extra votes would be more useful and I thought chances of me getting killed were low.

[Firebringer]

useful how?

Two conf town votes.

[Firebringer]

My third ability is Protect which I can use to block any actions used on me.

[Firebringer]

do you see a flaw in the plan i presented?

What plan?

[Firebringer]

Why?
And no.

Why would I agree to plan where I get lynched?

[Firebringer]

Do you not understand any of these clears or do you believe the logic in clearing any of them is faulty?

I see it, I just don't agree with lynching me.
I am town yo.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Davsto
Its either Nacho or Davsto, right?

This must be it?

[Firebringer]

I am so confused by your two arguments.

[Firebringer]

How do we know Fire's double vote is an action? How do we know it isn't just even-day double voter?

Problem with this whole "ooh look at all these confirmed towns" is that you're not considering little things. How are these people considered confirmed town but not me, who literally brought up a dead Mafia.

Nice try Davsto, but alas you fail.
It is a night action, and you killed Vedith last night.

Admit it and be purged.

[Firebringer]

Unless we assume my 50% block on SoS succeeded then it would have to be Nacho, correct?

We have had exactly 1 kill every night.

Everyone needs to claim their roleblocks and kills.

[Firebringer]

I haven't read back through the latest, but I don't think scum would have killed Vedith. He was pretty scummy in my eyes.

Wasn't he pretty much conf town by the way he voted up Random?

I mean, I guess he could have bussed, but I wanted him in my town block.

I didn't see him as scummy at all.

[Firebringer]

Fine

VOTE: Nachoman

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Nachomamma8

Corrected so no one yells at me.

[Firebringer]

I think he means kill but I am blocking actions on me.

[Firebringer]

You can try to kill me I might be lying

The game could be over though so let's wait on that for awhile

[Firebringer]

strongman shot him.

He said he used his one shot

[Firebringer]

Well, I am blocking night actions on me. WOOT!

[Firebringer]

but then you won't get your doublevote and win

I don't need them.

[Firebringer]

i mean
i don't want to help the scum win but you know you do right

Role PM still says "Town"

So....yeah. No.

[Firebringer]

oh you're not claiming scum

Even if i was, why would I?

[Firebringer]

Naah, I am immortal town.

I almost think you are going to flip scum though.
That you are just fucking with us for no reason.

[Firebringer]

Then perhaps I am going to allow Davsto to shoot me, while I try to gain more votes.
If I live, Davsto didn't try to shoot me.
If I die, you guys can stop being stupid about calling me scum.

[Firebringer]

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?

Game ended? No satisfaction!!

Well, I am recording this as a town win on my records

[Firebringer]

You can't stop me!!!! lol

[Firebringer]

How would that not make you a suspect?
Like seriously.