Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

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vote cdb

too legit to quit

thanks for the day start pm, prozac, really useful

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Oh dude, I totally left Nexus off my list.

Old school? I'm not old school.

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unvote

Will be back soon x x x

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vote catboi

This feels right. He says he's a cocky bastard as scum but there's a far bit of posturing going on in this game so far.

Will add more thoughts later. Writing a book review rn.

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I'm still voting reck. Said post 93 felt like he was overexplaining his vote, his responses since then haven't looked town

don't really know how 93 is overexplaining his vote. seems a weak reason to me.

anyway bbiab

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i think your avatar is gay as heck

Thanks~

vote catboi

This feels right. He says he's a cocky bastard as scum but there's a far bit of posturing going on in this game so far.

Will add more thoughts later. Writing a book review rn.

Lol nope

Yeah alright then.

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unvote

clearly just me that thinks the posturing is coming from scum.

will post thoughts this evening.

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because meta is bad

See, when I say this, I get called bad. (In other games)

Explain, oh wise and wonderful BBM/Zito combo so as I can use it too!

TOO MANY POSTS BTW SO I'M GETTING A BIT BEHIND.

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reading now. up to p7 and angry at myself for removing my catboi vote


can genuinely see catboi+spiffeh scumteam and it's really worrying me.

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me = dickhead

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ow sc's opening posts are bad.

marquis ++ (thumbsup)

spiffeh no

cdb your vote on mollie is bad

currently don't like notscience

ckd do u liek 2 buddy?

i like blackberry

marquis ++++++++++
i don't like catboi's posts as i already said so i can see his spiffeh vote as a scumbuddyvote

spiffeh only caring about 1 thing is bad

NOTSCIENCE FUCK OFF

literlaly notscience is telling people to do things or die but has done fuck all imo

catboi on the SC wagon - HEY I HAVE OPINIONS BUT NOT REALLY SRY

srsly the catboixspiffeh reactions seem really forced

i still think notscience is worst, actually

vote notscience

also suspish of catboi and spiffeh. ONLY AT P13 THOUGH.

Gotta go make dinner bbiab

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oh isn't it meant to be coloned

vote: notscience

lol

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ckd is currently ++

I think Davsto is frustrated town who can't get a handle on it - i know that feel.

town - davsto, ckd, mattp, reck

scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

everyone else i am RUMINATING <-good word on whilst stuffing my fat face.

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And seriously, where the seven hells is Reck? You've got to have some input at this point, love.

please don't do this.

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I don't like this sudden consensus of people scum reading pirate mollie btw

get out

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it's more the fact it's a shitty post.

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Guys let's just wagon AJ he only cares about his own well being.

pls pls pls

Also I skimmed the last four pages really hard

piss off with this

<3

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hhmm, there is a distinct possibility that starbuck and I have different interpretations of "interactions" cos I don't count the fluff. I still say she is reading the game on a surface level.

That might just be arising from a difference in perception is the thing. Like I said I don't agree with most of her conclusions but it does feel like a real attempt to read the game.

unvote

clearly just me that thinks the posturing is coming from scum.

will post thoughts this evening.

I'm bugged by how Nexus just abandoned this vote on me. Like it's just, "oh okay no one will follow me". He didn't react to my later posts, he didn't question others, or seem to react when marquis explained his read of me. It just looks like he backed down because no one was following him and that doesn't seem like a town thing to do.

Which part wasn't meta-based? From what I read he was saying "I expect town!Mollie to do X but in this game she did Y so I think she's scum" which is like core meta gameplay. What am I missing.

Meh. I was not happy with how Mollie took one thing CDB said (I always scumread her), while CDB actually linked to some posts, explained how her reasoning/reactions seemed off. Like, it seemed like she ignored all the actual analyses from CDB. Bad job of explaining from me.

Kind of agree with this post. Don't know what to make of a lot of what she posts, CDB's analysis toward his scumreads looked good, her response seems to be trying to draw him out over something oddly nitpicky

Honestly this was me half-reading the game in a pathetic attempt to keep up. I didn't want me vote sat there doing nowt, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.

This post is probably your best one of the game, so yeah.

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Like I actually despise "I'll do this later" posts because it lets scum skate by as townies focus on others and forget about the guy avoiding the thread.

false, i've seen it as both shitty town and shitty scum doing it. this is just a random anecdote to try and pin it on a poor guy who's obviously struggling to keep up - just like a lot of the thread, ffs.

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I think I have a decent idea of the game now, I've sorta slipped in. I'll try and be more town, but ya know.

VOTE: AJ I'm not liking him much.

GODDAMNIT DAVSTO

THIS IS A BAD VOTE/REASON

He's the leading wagon so you just *happen* to find a reason to vote him. That's a shit reason. GET IN THE SEA (and also out of my town reads)

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Davsto you admit yourself that you haven't been acting too town-like and then are suspicious when people want to vote you for it?

DO SOMETHING PLEASE

Nonono

People voting me? Fine. Loads of people going "who's in for a Davsto lynch" "man I want to vote Davsto" "hm who else would vote Davsto?" "are people agreeing with me on Davsto?" whilst I have a total of zero votes on me? Ew.

this however is a good point so gg

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caught up:

town - ckd, mattp (he is much better than sc and i don't think replace out is suspish - been burned by that before), reck, zzito
probtown - aj, bbm
mid - others (i can't read cdb for shit so don't wait for my read on him)
maybscum - mollie i guess if i'm following reck?
scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

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also, prior warning:

vla tomorrow for definite, got parent's evening. possibly v/la for the weekend, as may have ~lovelife~ things to deal with

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Might have to try a little harder than a naked vote if you want to get a wagon on me nexus

will do

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actually i don't know if you're town anymore mollie and i'm scared of that. i revisited the reasons for your scummy nomination and i'm. ugh

ckd
notty
spiffeh
catboi

is my concrete bloc atm.

also, as a fan of egosearching:

ow sc's opening posts are bad.

marquis ++ (thumbsup)

spiffeh no

cdb your vote on mollie is bad

currently don't like notscience

ckd do u liek 2 buddy?

i like blackberry

marquis ++++++++++
i don't like catboi's posts as i already said so i can see his spiffeh vote as a scumbuddyvote

spiffeh only caring about 1 thing is bad

NOTSCIENCE FUCK OFF

literlaly notscience is telling people to do things or die but has done fuck all imo

catboi on the SC wagon - HEY I HAVE OPINIONS BUT NOT REALLY SRY

srsly the catboixspiffeh reactions seem really forced

i still think notscience is worst, actually

vote notscience

also suspish of catboi and spiffeh. ONLY AT P13 THOUGH.

Gotta go make dinner bbiab

why am i here twice and super strongly "+++++++++++++++++++++++++"

ckd is currently ++

I think Davsto is frustrated town who can't get a handle on it - i know that feel.

town - davsto, ckd, mattp, reck

scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

everyone else i am RUMINATING <-good word on whilst stuffing my fat face.

caught up:

town - ckd, mattp (he is much better than sc and i don't think replace out is suspish - been burned by that before), reck, zzito
probtown - aj, bbm
mid - others (i can't read cdb for shit so don't wait for my read on him)
maybscum - mollie i guess if i'm following reck?
scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

but not in either of these

how do you forget me

back then i was not only super town but also super imposing

how ((

dunno tbh. clearly you weren't super memorable the last few posts

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mid - others (i can't read cdb for shit so don't wait for my read on him)

Perhaps if you could read, it'd be useful, huh?

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CBD can read me really well. I can't read him at all. I'm constantly paranoid about him town reading me, but similarly he hasn't done enough this day for me to have any idea of his alignment.

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actually i don't know if you're town anymore mollie and i'm scared of that. i revisited the reasons for your scummy nomination and i'm. ugh

I suspect that I will get lynched for a while after that game.

just at least give me time to sort some things out, that is all I ask and weave a bit more cohesion cos right now there is none. then you can get weird on me if you want.

eta: hey nexus why did you leave cdb off of your list?

where's the first time? I just looked in your iso and couldn't see it.

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caught up:

town - ckd, mattp (he is much better than sc and i don't think replace out is suspish - been burned by that before), reck, zzito
probtown - aj, bbm

mid - others (i can't read cdb for shit so don't wait for my read on him)

maybscum - mollie i guess if i'm following reck?
scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

huh

this isn't a question.

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also pretty self-explanatory. look in our most recent game together - I spent the entire game paranoid despite the fact he was townreading me.

I can't read him for shit.

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don't ignore me nexus, this is the second time that I am asking.

asking implies a question. that means you need a question mark. if you want a response, punctuate correctly, k?

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actually i don't know if you're town anymore mollie and i'm scared of that. i revisited the reasons for your scummy nomination and i'm. ugh

I suspect that I will get lynched for a while after that game.

just at least give me time to sort some things out, that is all I ask and weave a bit more cohesion cos right now there is none. then you can get weird on me if you want.

eta: hey nexus why did you leave cdb off of your list?

also I literally didn't leave him off my list. I even mentioned him in my list. I said I couldn't read him, in the literal list that I literally wrote. that's the opposite of leaving him off my list. If I was to leave him off the list, I would have just written "others." but obviously I know you all wanted to know my read on him. so I told people my read. I can't read him.

k?

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he had 30 posts and yet not a great deal of substance fmpov. interesting.

right - work time. see you later praitymoly

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I'm always uncomfortable when CDB says he town reads me as heavily as he has today. Like I said yesterday, I need to re-read properly - my head isn't really in a good place at the minute so the re-read keeps falling further and further down my list of priorities.

Sorry!

Yes.

Basically I'm paranoid about everything. I'm paranoid about the fact you're still alive. I'm paranoid about the fact CDB is still hard townreading me, although the fact he's kept it up to today makes me slightly less paranoid.

I need to do a genuine, honest to god re-read, and I will do it on Saturday.

cdb was literally kept alive until the last day in this game because despite the fact he was basically conftown I still wouldn't believe it and it was scum's best chance of winning.

I am the worst at reading CDB and it pisses me off no end because he's the best at reading me. So there you go.

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I'm always uncomfortable when CDB says he town reads me as heavily as he has today. Like I said yesterday, I need to re-read properly - my head isn't really in a good place at the minute so the re-read keeps falling further and further down my list of priorities.

Sorry!

Yes.

Basically I'm paranoid about everything. I'm paranoid about the fact you're still alive. I'm paranoid about the fact CDB is still hard townreading me, although the fact he's kept it up to today makes me slightly less paranoid.

I need to do a genuine, honest to god re-read, and I will do it on Saturday.

cdb was literally kept alive until the last day in this game because despite the fact he was basically conftown I still wouldn't believe it and it was scum's best chance of winning.

I am the worst at reading CDB and it pisses me off no end because he's the best at reading me. So there you go.

ohhhhh what game was that? can you link it plz?

UK Scummer Meet Invitational - click one of the two post links in the quotes! Or here

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...brilliant

here

As a note: I was also really paranoid about & so either of them being kept alive would have been an issue. basically I'm bad at this game.

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None of these wagons interest me.

The most likely looking ones from "who on it are the towniest" are Davsto and Mollie, but I'm convinced that Davsto is town.

Also, fuck shit bollocks wank cunt arse twat.

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Also, fuck shit bollocks wank cunt arse twat.

I have a book that may interest you.

woosh

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I think Davsto is frustrated town who can't get a handle on it - i know that feel.

Also his latest posts seems like him getting a handle on it but being very bad at the game.

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There are far too many people doing fuck all.

This is super shit.

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I mean, why just him? Why not me, Davsto, AJ, MattP or myko, all of whom aren't on the big wagons?

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Why are all my scumspects replacing out

Because people don't like being caught.

Re: nexus, in spirit I was on the AJ wagon. Could also join mollies. No interest in davsto at all, I think he's town. Matt could go either way.

4 days, eh? Guess I

vote: mollie

These two statements don't tally up. If you think that Spiffeh's scumspects are correct, because they replaced out (so, AJ and SC's slots), why are you voting mollie's slot?

Fixed quote tag - Prozac

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There are far too many people doing fuck all.

This is super shit.

I apologize for doing fuck all. This game has been a sea of meta and emotion thus far and I don't get anything from those.

I like your notscience vote but I don't think that's happening today barring magical mafia fairy miracles. Where else are you willing to go?

Could probably go for Matt or AJ if someone shows me a particularly compelling case - I definitely don't think Davsto is scum, and not particularly set on mollie, either.

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genuinely didn't realise it's been three days since i last posted. sry.

is half term tomorrow so can look in depth later =)

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huh.

maybe notty is town. that's a ballache.

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guys i think cdb might be scum.

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guys i think cdb might be scum.

say more words

literally just had the realisation after reading scot's post about his shitty vote on him, to be fair.

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guys i think cdb might be scum.

say more words

literally just had the realisation after reading scot's post about his shitty vote on him, to be fair.

arrite


oh look Davsto woke up again, look at that

I mean, Davsto is still probably town. Terrible at the game, but town. Probably be best if he stopped posting.

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spiff - i genuinely see a lot of my own shitty town play in davsto's shitty town play.

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I want to flake but I really shouldn't.

I'll try and get caught up by the weekend - if I haven't, I will let someone less useless play.

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davsto, stop being a dickhead, for fuck sake.

vote: channeldelibird

More tomorrow!

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also, that was directed to like two pages ago, before I'd read anything else.

Davsto is stupid!town, but he's town. CDB is probably scum. I'll go into detail tomorrow, but his 'case' on scot from ages ago was pretty suspect, and the stuff he's done since isn't particularly convincing.

Still got BBM as firm town in my head.

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Please stop posting. I really hate that you're going to be lynched for basically behaving like a prick, when you're so obviously town to my stupid eyes.

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It's to do with the fact that your Day 1 play and most of your Day 2 play, up until the acting like a dickhead part, is similar to how I feel when I'm disillusioned town struggling to get into the game.

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You are literally acting like a dickhead. It is entirely necessary. Posting via gifs is helping no-one.

No, I don't assume it, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

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*unnecessary.

I'm done discussing it with you. I'm not going to vote you, so don't worry about it.

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I've already explained why i think you're town, and I've suggested that you stop acting like you are, because I can see why people will want to lynch you.

i'm more interested in lynching CDB, so am trying to get my thoughts into a coherent order. If you stopped posting shit that's irrelevant, you won't get lynched.

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Genuinely sorry. I injured my knee on Saturday and have been laid up not really able to pay much attention which is the opposite of what I wanted to do.

Am on a train for 2hrs tomorrow so will try and get the game re-read then.

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unvote

Maybe my CDB case wasn't as solid as I thought. Fuck my ass.

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having the same issues that i have with cdb in every game we play.

i assume that because he's calling me town he's scum. except then he acts like town. and i get all confused and muddled.

as for the re-read - davsto still town. Espeonage slot i don't like having re-read on AJ. notscience is probably town due to yesterday, sadly. Myko's slot I'm unsure as - leaning closer to scum than town. ckd, spiffeh and Bins really not liking but idk why.

zito+bbm+reck are definitely a townbloc I can get behind.

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i forgot my ipad so was reading on my shitty phone screen and i'm pissed off at myself for it.

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having the same issues that i have with cdb in every game we play.

i assume that because he's calling me town he's scum. except then he acts like town. and i get all confused and muddled.

as for the re-read - davsto still town. Espeonage slot i don't like having re-read on AJ. notscience is probably town due to yesterday, sadly. Myko's slot I'm unsure as - leaning closer to scum than town. ckd, spiffeh and Bins really not liking but idk why.

zito+bbm+reck are definitely a townbloc I can get behind.

scot read, go

o scot is town for his cdb post that made me think cdb is scum.

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also don't know what to think about mollie. at all.

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also don't know what to think about mollie. at all.

Nexus' reread checks out

i mean, i can't really remember that many games i've played with her, particularly not recently - possibly red wedding and i was just absolute dog shit in that game.

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why is the town bloc imploding

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is it espe you like for scum or is it the aj stuff?

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righto. will read again what star said.

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that's just myko

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I imagine not in the slightest, but he's going to have fun with our reactions.

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hammertime?

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isn't hider like a really obvious scum fakeclaim or am I making that up?

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isn't hider like a really obvious scum fakeclaim or am I making that up?

In any game but pbt yeah

pbt?

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vote: Bins

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VOTE: Bins

DO YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD OF DONE THAT

AS SCUM

THINK LOGICALLY. BUD.

ESPE WAS DEAD I'M NOT THAT BAD AT THE GAME I WOULD OF SHUT MY MOUTH.

bad argument is bad

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WHAT THE FUCK

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how stupid. i was the worst for voting for both days ffs.

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stop being knobs ffs

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thanks to whoever took my vote. it's killed all interest i had in the game.

will try and get back into it at the weekend.

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Didn't you barely vote anyway?

I'm a ditherer

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Bins.

Possibly KMD - still on the fence with CDB's play - sadly his flaking is non-alignment indicative.

Then idk - ckd by POE maybe?

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i mean, the shift in kmd's read could be to do with the fact that cdb basically wasn't reading the game, so was just pulling reads out of his arse, in a vain attempt to stay relevant before succumbing to the inevitable pressure of the lure of the cadbury's flake.

as for me not voting mattp - i thought notscience was scum and matt was the counterwagon. i was wrong.

aj/espe i was coming round to but then by the time i got into it he made his badclaim and was lynched.

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I thought we had established notty as town as he was the counterwagon to Matt on D1?

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i think i'll do notty/nexus/ckd today


exam now will think about it more after

Keeping your options open. I like it.

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Spoiler: Nexus

ow sc's opening posts are bad.

marquis ++ (thumbsup)

spiffeh no

cdb your vote on mollie is bad

currently don't like notscience

ckd do u liek 2 buddy?

i like blackberry

marquis ++++++++++
i don't like catboi's posts as i already said so i can see his spiffeh vote as a scumbuddyvote

spiffeh only caring about 1 thing is bad

NOTSCIENCE FUCK OFF

literlaly notscience is telling people to do things or die but has done fuck all imo

catboi on the SC wagon - HEY I HAVE OPINIONS BUT NOT REALLY SRY

srsly the catboixspiffeh reactions seem really forced

i still think notscience is worst, actually

vote notscience

also suspish of catboi and spiffeh. ONLY AT P13 THOUGH.

Gotta go make dinner bbiab

Says that SC's opening posts were bad but then spends the rest of this catch up discrediting the ones most vocal about SC's scumminess.

because i thought they were scummy. hindsight is 20/20

ckd is currently ++

I think Davsto is frustrated town who can't get a handle on it - i know that feel.

town - davsto, ckd, mattp, reck

scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

everyone else i am RUMINATING <-good word on whilst stuffing my fat face.

Calls MattP town despite the only comment he ever made about that slot was something negative about SC.

Hindsight 20/20

I think I have a decent idea of the game now, I've sorta slipped in. I'll try and be more town, but ya know.

VOTE: AJ I'm not liking him much.

GODDAMNIT DAVSTO

THIS IS A BAD VOTE/REASON

He's the leading wagon so you just *happen* to find a reason to vote him. That's a shit reason. GET IN THE SEA (and also out of my town reads)

Freaks out at an AJ vote (although I remember hating this vote too so this is meh)

AKA I AGREE WITH THIS REASON BUT BECAUSE I'M TUNNELING, AND IT COMES FROM SOMEONE ELSE, THEY ARE SCUM. good posting

CBD can read me really well. I can't read him at all. I'm constantly paranoid about him town reading me, but similarly he hasn't done enough this day for me to have any idea of his alignment.

I am the worst at reading CDB and it pisses me off no end because he's the best at reading me. So there you go.

guys i think cdb might be scum.

Contradictory statements (I don't think this is that scummy on its own but still worth noting)

Espeonage slot i don't like having re-read on AJ.

This I really hate especially after he had AJ as a consistent town read on Day 1 and he got all over me and catboi for our arguments with AJ.

shit it's almost as if my re-read changed my mind.

I think Nexus is scum. His ISO is pretty barren overall and his early unexplained town reads of AJ and SC/discredits of myself and catboi look like scum defending his buddies. I also don't like how he just hopped on the Bins bash-train today with barely any precedent. If we're lynching based on associations with flipped scum I think Nexus is the best choice.

Bins by PoE as i already stated.

cherrypicking is cool.

've spent most of the game checked out and probably should've replaced out but nevermind. SC/Matt fooled me, and aj/espe didn't but then the hammer had happened before i got back into the game. so shoot me.

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also i responded inside the quote sardonically because that's the kind of guy i am.

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7 quotes is cherry picking is it not?

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didn't dispute that. was asked a question. i answered it.

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I am bad at this game. I never try to argue the opposite.

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7 quotes is cherry picking is it not?

so when you think someone is scum, how do you post quotes that prove your point? You cant dismiss his whole case by saying "cherry picking". That is like a murderer who been caught on camera killing someone saying, "why are you just using pictures of the murder? I was there earlier NOT killing anyone, cherry picking!!!!"

I didn't dismiss his case just on the basis of cherrypicking. I responded to each of his points.

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mollie and reck put your cocks away, ffs.

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v/la until Monday. Sorry - Parent's Evening then away for the weekend.

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mod: do i have my vote again today?

i am so bad at this game. current position:

def town - BBM, scot, davsto
Prob town - mollie
Mayb town - reck possibly starbuck
PoE probably therefore scum - Bins, maybe notscience again?

ckd idk.

Urghh

mod: why is catboi still on the players alive list in the OP?

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you genuinely think I'm an SK?

i would LOVE to be an SK.

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was ist das?

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nexus plz vote bins. she is clearly scftwr here

itrustu

vote: Bins

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davsto as an sk.

i don't think i can remember playing any games with an sk, so the obvtown stuff might make sense? idk

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oh i lie

i played with an SK in Modern Family Mafia and lost as scum because it was a bullshit role

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but i usually die early so the SK normally passes me by

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how so?

is it better to lynch the last scum or the sk, then?

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do u want me 2 hammer

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vote: Titus

Will not vote BBM, scot or mollie today.

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Fuck

@mod put that in a spoiler tag, would you kindly?

Anyway, I think I got it done, think I fixed all the little glitches (changes in how players were referred to, gdi). Only took 20 mins. Much better than manual, eh?

So what do we learn from thsi shit?

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No, I understand that it's a VCA, but what's the point?

Most players left are experienced enough to know that VCAs happen, and so would do their best to buck the trends and not actually fall into the trap. It's a stupid waste of time.

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You can manipulate it any way you want to suit what you want. I could say that mollie was on all three scum lynches, therefore was turbo bussing to ride the town cred (possible). I could also say that BBM was the mislynch wagon, and only joined the Espe wagon when he fucked up his fakeclaim, therefore he's scum.

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dav r u an sk

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I don't really understand why Titus is continuing to post after requesting replacement. It's pretty piss poor form and the mod should do something about it.

Could be persuaded onto Notty. Need to doublecheck what stopped me the other Day - I think it was the counterwagon to scum thing though.

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I don't really understand why Titus is continuing to post after requesting replacement. It's pretty piss poor form and the mod should do something about it.

Could be persuaded onto Notty. Need to doublecheck what stopped me the other Day - I think it was the counterwagon to scum thing though.

The mod doesn't have a problem here. I was pretty clear with what I was doing.

Why not call a spade a spade and say you want me silenced because I suspect you?

I want you silenced because you're talking shit. If you are replacing out, fuck off. If you aren't, then stay and play.

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I've already explained my issues with your VCA. I cannot be bothered to interact with you anymore.

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Okay Prozac. Apologies.

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@Dave, They don't sit on a wagon

by themselves

they need a townbeard. Me.

I know how scum act.

Scum is in Nexus You and Reck.
Long shots Starbuck and scotmany.

Everyone else is conftown.

VCA ANALYSIS TIME:

WOULD ALL THREE PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK OF SCUM ACTUALLY BE ON YOUR WAGON?

VOTE NOW:

YES

NO

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Official Vote Count

Titus

(3):

Nexus, Davsto, xRECKONERx

notscience

(2):

scotmany12, pirate mollie

xRECKONERx

(1):

Starbuck

Davsto

(1): Titus

Not Voting

(2):

notscience, Flameaxe

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

BY JOVE I'VE CRACKED IT.

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@Dave, They don't sit on a wagon

by themselves

they need a townbeard. Me.

I know how scum act.

Scum is in Nexus [Davsto] and Reck.

Long shots Starbuck and scotmany.

Everyone else is conftown.

Official Vote Count

Titus

(3):

Nexus, Davsto, xRECKONERx

notscience

(2): scotmany12, pirate mollie

xRECKONERx

(1): Starbuck

Davsto

(1): Titus

Not Voting

(2): notscience, Flameaxe

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

wow isn't that convenient

It's almost as if I pointed it out a few posts earlier.

Come on darling, you're exposing our secrets.

[Nexus]

You are literally skimming the thread to see mention of yourself and that's all you care about.

BB pls try harder to be less scummy. I've spent too much time defending u for you to betray me now.

[Nexus]

also v/la from now until Monday.

[Nexus]

I will not vote scot, I don't think.

I would be inclined to vote Nero first, then Davsto.

[Nexus]

Titus was town and its not like the slots role has changed so....

have you guys claimed yet?

well, she wasn't. she was bullshitting about vca for her entire time here. sit down.

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plus Bins was not town in the slightest.

[Nexus]

I didn't call you stupid?

I can read my PM as well. What's your point? Bins and Titus did not act remotely town. You haven't acted particularly town. You're obnoxious, sure.

[Nexus]

voted for BBM when he was obvtown, for one.

mislynched a townie for two.

[Nexus]

What, you mean of the two people who flipped last night?

[Nexus]

well, one yesterday day and then last night.

[Nexus]

bbm was obvtown for the entire game.

[Nexus]

Kaye Hillier. Lonely accountant.

NEXT.

[Nexus]

husband died 10 years ago. been working in our accountancy firm. decided to take first holiday in 10 years.

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The grander point is that I think he's being incredibly dense here. His points that I am scummy for mislynching town and voted for "obvious town" don't come from a town player with 5 years of experience on this site. These are bullshit pressure points that lack any kind of depth whatever.

I'll give it one more try. Nexus was defending Dav all game, why does it raise no red flags that he's suddenly ok with lynching him?

I was calling Davsto baby by saying BB.

Process of Elimination. I am convinced that reck and scot are town. It's either you or Davsto.

What's so hard to understand?

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You know how the game is 191 pages long, right?

There are 4766 posts in these 191 pages.

There are 5 players left. I know I'm town. I'm willing to bet that scot is definitely town because that's the strongest belief I've had all game, all the way back to his case on CDB ages ago. I'm also willing to bet reck is town due to mollie interactions.

That leaves two - you and Davsto. Davsto was acting scummier on the last Day than he had all game. Your slot has been scummy all game, and you're misrepping me saying "BB" in response to Davsto, as a joking way of calling him baby, that I was calling Flameaxe scum.

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YOUR SLOT IS SCUM BECAUSE TITUS AND BINS WERE SCUM.

YOU ASKED ME TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU DID THAT WAS SCUMMY. I GAVE TWO EXAMPLES. DON'T BE SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT.

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having the same issues that i have with cdb in every game we play.

i assume that because he's calling me town he's scum. except then he acts like town. and i get all confused and muddled.

as for the re-read - davsto still town. Espeonage slot i don't like having re-read on AJ. notscience is probably town due to yesterday, sadly. Myko's slot I'm unsure as - leaning closer to scum than town. ckd, spiffeh and Bins really not liking but idk why.

zito+bbm+reck are definitely a townbloc I can get behind.

vote: Bins

VOTE: Bins

DO YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD OF DONE THAT

AS SCUM

THINK LOGICALLY. BUD.

ESPE WAS DEAD I'M NOT THAT BAD AT THE GAME I WOULD OF SHUT MY MOUTH.

bad argument is bad

Bins.

Possibly KMD - still on the fence with CDB's play - sadly his flaking is non-alignment indicative.

Then idk - ckd by POE maybe?

i think i'll do notty/nexus/ckd today


exam now will think about it more after

Keeping your options open. I like it.

Spoiler: Nexus

ow sc's opening posts are bad.

marquis ++ (thumbsup)

spiffeh no

cdb your vote on mollie is bad

currently don't like notscience

ckd do u liek 2 buddy?

i like blackberry

marquis ++++++++++
i don't like catboi's posts as i already said so i can see his spiffeh vote as a scumbuddyvote

spiffeh only caring about 1 thing is bad

NOTSCIENCE FUCK OFF

literlaly notscience is telling people to do things or die but has done fuck all imo

catboi on the SC wagon - HEY I HAVE OPINIONS BUT NOT REALLY SRY

srsly the catboixspiffeh reactions seem really forced

i still think notscience is worst, actually

vote notscience

also suspish of catboi and spiffeh. ONLY AT P13 THOUGH.

Gotta go make dinner bbiab

Says that SC's opening posts were bad but then spends the rest of this catch up discrediting the ones most vocal about SC's scumminess.

because i thought they were scummy. hindsight is 20/20

ckd is currently ++

I think Davsto is frustrated town who can't get a handle on it - i know that feel.

town - davsto, ckd, mattp, reck

scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

everyone else i am RUMINATING <-good word on whilst stuffing my fat face.

Calls MattP town despite the only comment he ever made about that slot was something negative about SC.

Hindsight 20/20

I think I have a decent idea of the game now, I've sorta slipped in. I'll try and be more town, but ya know.

VOTE: AJ I'm not liking him much.

GODDAMNIT DAVSTO

THIS IS A BAD VOTE/REASON

He's the leading wagon so you just *happen* to find a reason to vote him. That's a shit reason. GET IN THE SEA (and also out of my town reads)

Freaks out at an AJ vote (although I remember hating this vote too so this is meh)

AKA I AGREE WITH THIS REASON BUT BECAUSE I'M TUNNELING, AND IT COMES FROM SOMEONE ELSE, THEY ARE SCUM. good posting

CBD can read me really well. I can't read him at all. I'm constantly paranoid about him town reading me, but similarly he hasn't done enough this day for me to have any idea of his alignment.

I am the worst at reading CDB and it pisses me off no end because he's the best at reading me. So there you go.

guys i think cdb might be scum.

Contradictory statements (I don't think this is that scummy on its own but still worth noting)

Espeonage slot i don't like having re-read on AJ.

This I really hate especially after he had AJ as a consistent town read on Day 1 and he got all over me and catboi for our arguments with AJ.

shit it's almost as if my re-read changed my mind.

I think Nexus is scum. His ISO is pretty barren overall and his early unexplained town reads of AJ and SC/discredits of myself and catboi look like scum defending his buddies. I also don't like how he just hopped on the Bins bash-train today with barely any precedent. If we're lynching based on associations with flipped scum I think Nexus is the best choice.

Bins by PoE as i already stated.

cherrypicking is cool.

've spent most of the game checked out and probably should've replaced out but nevermind. SC/Matt fooled me, and aj/espe didn't but then the hammer had happened before i got back into the game. so shoot me.

mod: do i have my vote again today?

i am so bad at this game. current position:

def town - BBM, scot, davsto
Prob town - mollie
Mayb town - reck possibly starbuck
PoE probably therefore scum - Bins, maybe notscience again?

ckd idk.

Urghh

mod: why is catboi still on the players alive list in the OP?

nexus plz vote bins. she is clearly scftwr here

itrustu

vote: Bins

vote: Titus

Will not vote BBM, scot or mollie today.

It's almost as if I've suspected your slot for the entire game.

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AND NO ONE WITH 5 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WOULD SIT THERE AND CLAIM THAT VOTING TOWN IS SCUMMY.

+ you've been sitting there and voting and pushing town all game. Why is it scummy for me to do that but not scummy for you?

Have you ever played with Titus before?

1. OK.
2. I didn't say it wasn't - you can have your opinion.
3. I don't think so? I know she's quite obnoxious to play with, so I generally avoid her I think?

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The last few games I've played have either been UK Meet invitationals, a couple of mini themes, and a couple of large themes, and from a cursory glance I've never played with her.

[Nexus]

Doesn't mean it's Town.

I've already explained why it's easily faked. You can draw whatever conclusions you want from VCA because you can interpret it how you want to suit your case.

Which I've already said. Repeatedly.

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It's the same argument for meta being bad - stuff can be faked.

[Nexus]

Have you not read the thread?

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Official Vote Count

Titus

(3):

Nexus, Davsto, xRECKONERx

notscience

(2):

scotmany12, pirate mollie

xRECKONERx

(1):

Starbuck

Davsto

(1): Titus

Not Voting

(2):

notscience, Flameaxe

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

BY JOVE I'VE CRACKED IT.

@Dave, They don't sit on a wagon

by themselves

they need a townbeard. Me.

I know how scum act.

Scum is in Nexus You and Reck.
Long shots Starbuck and scotmany.

Everyone else is conftown.

VCA ANALYSIS TIME:

WOULD ALL THREE PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK OF SCUM ACTUALLY BE ON YOUR WAGON?

VOTE NOW:

YES

NO

I've already explained my issues with your VCA. I cannot be bothered to interact with you anymore.

You can manipulate it any way you want to suit what you want. I could say that mollie was on all three scum lynches, therefore was turbo bussing to ride the town cred (possible). I could also say that BBM was the mislynch wagon, and only joined the Espe wagon when he fucked up his fakeclaim, therefore he's scum.

No, I understand that it's a VCA, but what's the point?

Most players left are experienced enough to know that VCAs happen, and so would do their best to buck the trends and not actually fall into the trap. It's a stupid waste of time.

Fuck

@mod put that in a spoiler tag, would you kindly?

Anyway, I think I got it done, think I fixed all the little glitches (changes in how players were referred to, gdi). Only took 20 mins. Much better than manual, eh?

So what do we learn from thsi shit?

The VCA itself is fine. You colour in the names in pretty colours ezpz.

The conclusions you draw are entirely up to you, however.

Example:

Player 1 (3-LYNCHED) - Player 2, Player 3, Player 5
Player 5 (2) - Player 1, Player 4

We know Player 1 flipped town.

I know that I'm Player 4, and therefore Town.

So - conclusions that could be drawn:

Player 5 is scum because Player 1's wagon was a counterwagon, and he hammered it. Fine.
Player 2 is scum because they started the counterwagon
Player 3 is scum because they put Player 1 at L-1 for no real reason
Player 4 is scum because they stayed off the wagon since they knew it was a mislynch.

ALL OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE.

Player 4 has been on two mislynches, and three scum lynches - turbo bussing or unlucky town?

Player 2 has been on no lynches except for the counter wagon - lurking scum or bad town?

Player 3 has been the second vote on every single major wagon - opportunistic scum, or ok town?

The conclusions drawn can entirely suit your argument. If I want to get Player 4 lynched - I say they're turbo bussing and give the three scum lynches as evidence. If I want to get Player 2 lynched, I say they're lurking scum. Etc. etc.

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There's also a separate issue about Davsto doing the VCA in an attempt to ingratiate himself with Titus, but that's something for another argument.

[Nexus]

Now I'm going to work.

I want to see what reck and scot feel about stuff.

[Nexus]

Don't forget that Espe fucked up his claim so doesn't necessarily mean he was bussed - i would've agreed with you if the last three votes were different.

[Nexus]

Are you definitely ruling out an SK?

[Nexus]

uh. hello?

[Nexus]

vote: Nero Cain

[Nexus]

unvote

wait a sec.

[Nexus]

Has everyone claimed yet? Because I'm starting to get worried about the lack of a claimed source of the extra kills.

What exactly were you expecting?

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because only the sith deal in absolutes.

i would argue losing my vote and saying what the fuck isn't really an overreaction? I didn't particularly expect it and also expected to be notified via PM, not in thread.

All VCA is bullshit. It just cemented my scum read on the slot. I've never been one for VCA. As I've said repeatedly.

as for Dav - it's ultimately down to both PoE, since i'm sure reck/scot are townier, and the fact that there must be something behind the fact he had a massive wagon eventually.

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as for espe - he was at l-1 when i made the post about a hider - i wasn't just going to lolhammer it - look at reck's reaction to the hammer - he was on the same page as me in wanting to discuss it before the hammer.

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The way he acted towards CDB is what makes him town.

I genuinely have no idea how to act around SKs. I think I've been in one game with a bullshit SK otherwise I have little to no experience with them.

You are being incredibly dense here. I'm not re-explaining myself to you again.

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I mean, I've made my positions clear.

vote: Nero Cain

[Nexus]

Does Davsto not hammering me confirm him as town or as scum not wanting to risk losing in endgame?

HMMM.

More than one kill on Nights 2 and 5. That throws out my idea of an odd night or delayed SK. I don't know.

[Nexus]

vote scotmany

[Nexus]

vote: scotmany

We'll see what happens.

[Nexus]

No-one should reveal anything 'til Prozac posts.

[Nexus]

Sorry Scot. You deserved the win.

Sorry for being a bad player whilst my team imploded. I feel I played ok after about day 4.

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I mean, Titus, you were 100% correct.

Which is why I had to discredit your VCA as bullshit. Which it still is. It can still be manipulated, just like meta.

[Nexus]

Release the scum QT as much as you want.

WRT not speaking in the scum QT - at the point where espe replaced in, it was basically the end of days. I figured if I ignored and forgot about the scum QT, I wouldn't do anything incriminating during the day.

I should've carried on bussing the shit out of CDB, but he complained so I backed off - really that should've cost me big.

Nero - you were 100% accurate, and I was very impressed.

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i really enjoyed the last three days of the game.