Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

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VCA time.

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Titus replaces Bins, please welcome them warmly.

are you being srs

cos she made a big stink about blacklisting me

things are about to get very ugly

Didn't check the player list. My bad there.

VCA says you're town, so I will leave or hammer as you want.

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Not a full one, but I can eyeball it fast. You repeatedly countering scum and voting scum suggests you are town. Reck is prob town. You both are on myko.

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Not a full one, but I can eyeball it fast. You repeatedly countering scum and voting scum suggests you are town. Reck is prob town. You both are on myko.

how did you...eyeball it exactly?

did you iso prozack?

so you saw my name and what was your reaction? cos you blacklisted me. and I was very happy with that.

Yup. ISO porochaz. Remember scum names. Counters. Etc.

My thought was oh shit when I saw your name.

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so in 14 minutes you read prozack's entire iso and took in where and when votes were moved and I am magically town from this?

did you look at every player individually?

why did you decide to stay in the game when you saw my name?

Magically town, nope. But yes I can determine you are town.

Nope, just poro's ISO.

I decided to ask you because I don like subbing out immediately on subbing in for something I should have checked.

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Ok looks like I will need to do a full vca today.

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Starbuck, can you color all the VCs for me?

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If you're planning on doing them all manually, I'll take the load off your back and do it in ~15 minutes.

Thanks. I got a cold so can't get to my pc.

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1.9 Bins, Flameaxe and Mollie are all likely town. Bins because it's remote that three scums all counterwagon the same player.

One of Starbuck or Reck is scum max.

1.15, wagon on Davesto counters scum. Either Davesto or scotmany likely scum.

1.19 notty is likely town.

2.02, CDB caught and bussing here? Or is Dave scum? Scotmany townbeard?

Nexus Davesto Reck..

That's where scum should be.

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VOTE: Nexus

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Mollie thoughts on my pool?

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What do you think of my lynchpool Flameaxe?

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Who is that too?

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Join me on Nexus?

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Mod: Replace me. I will post until you can find a replacement.

@Mollie I absolutely am sorry for subbing in. It was my oversight.

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Nexus is likely scum. Starbuck looks like a townbeard in the VCA.

Please someone engage me.

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Townbeard? That's a new word.

Yeah it's my way of stating a townie that defends scum and votes town constantly. The best example is still the first. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkahabahn. The guy always voted town on like day 8.

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I'm also in a minor freakout over the lovers still being alive if you're both town, because if that shit lasts until LYLO or near-LYLO then we're in a really shitty situation.

Agreed. Do you think it would be worth it to lynch mollie or I today to prevent that outcome?

I don't want that outcome, but I would rather have us dealt with right now than further down the road when it is detrimental.

Not particularly as I think Mollie's town. Ask me if Nexus and Reck flip town.

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Starbuck, frankly I don't give a damn on the words said but the votes placed. VCA can narrow me down to a pool, provided no biases or faulty setup spec enter. I haven't read anything.

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No. I do want to talk. You misunderstand. The why is charisma. Who votes who and when tells the story.

There are only a handful of people who can be scum based on my methods. I do want feedback as I am pretty sure the last scum is in the pool I outlined.

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I put little stock in the why but sometimes it is the sole piece of evidence we got.

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I view Day 1 as a necessary evil. The charisma based logic doesn't always work but it always leaves data that can be analyzedm

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ckd is currently ++

I think Davsto is frustrated town who can't get a handle on it - i know that feel.

town - davsto, ckd, mattp, reck

scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

everyone else i am RUMINATING <-good word on whilst stuffing my fat face.

caught up:

town - ckd, mattp (he is much better than sc and i don't think replace out is suspish - been burned by that before), reck, zzito
probtown - aj, bbm
mid - others (i can't read cdb for shit so don't wait for my read on him)
maybscum - mollie i guess if i'm following reck?
scum - notscience, spiffeh, catboi

None of these wagons interest me. (Context:Pirate Mollie, Davesto, MattP, AJ, Flameaxe,notty).

The most likely looking ones from "who on it are the towniest" are Davsto and Mollie, but I'm convinced that Davsto is town.

Also, fuck shit bollocks wank cunt arse twat.

Their investigation lead to some hidden threatening e-mails. Explaining that if he didn't pay a ransom, then his family would be hurt. It turned out that Derek had owed someone a lot of money. He had turned to the drug trade to try and make the money quickly.

Votecount 1.14

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Davsto - 4 - Papa Zito, Scotmany, Bins, ckd
Pirate Mollie -3 - CDB, Starbuck, Reck
MattP - 3 - Flameaxe, Spiffeh, Marquis
AJ - 3 - Davsto, catboi, MattP
Flameaxe - 2 - AJ the Epic, mykonian
notscience - 1 - Nexus

Not voting - 2 - Mollie, notscience,

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-10-23 14:00:00)

Nexus is V/LA until Monday
Zito is V/LA this weekend

Looking at Nexus's history, it's tellingthat he objected to all the wagons in 1.14.

Davesto he is buddying. MattP and AJ are scum. AJ is already voting the Flameaxe wagon. MattP is bussing AJ.

I don't particularly care why Nexus is objecting (but his ISO doesn't really support it). The mere fact he was objecting to all the wagons with two scum.

There just was no good place for scum.

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No. I do want to talk. You misunderstand. The why is charisma. Who votes who and when tells the story.

There are only a handful of people who can be scum based on my methods. I do want feedback as I am pretty sure the last scum is in the pool I outlined.

Okay. Here's my feedback. Your analysis is hardly an analysis. It is void of any actual analysis and substance. You claimed to have looked at votecounts, then without any explanation, gave us a list of who you think might be scum. It's like you just picked names out of a hat.

Nah, my VCA is analysis.

Being the counter to scum makes someone more likely to be town. Rather than dismissing something because it's VCA, you could realize there's analysis in there or *gasp* explain your read on Nexus.

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Lucy basically maimed her brother, her parents disowned her and she grew more angrier by the day. To summarise.

Votecount 2.15

Espeonage (9): Davsto, Papa Zito, Starbuck, scotmany12, xRECKONERx, catboi, pirate mollie, mykonian, Flameaxe
ChannelDelibird (3): notscience, Spiffeh, curiouskarmadog
scotmany12 (1): ChannelDelibird
Starbuck (1): Espeonage
Davsto (1): Bins

Not Voting (1): Nexus

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Thats lynch.

Flip incoming.

I am aware that Nexus lost his vote. Serious question. Why would scum remove the one guy or voting scum at the end of the day? Nexus hasn't done shit according to the votes history.

I once beat a game while being voteless scum in 4p lylo after having a role that cced my buddy. So yeah, setup spec sucks.

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KMD wasn't the only scum. The other scum would pick someone actually worthy to steal a vote from. Nexus isn't it. Someone doesn't have to lose their vote due to a thief. It can be a natural part of a role.

Just because you ignore my VCA explanation doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Most everyone is duh common sense cleared but my pool due to being counters to scum wagons. 1.9 and 1.14 literally tell the story o most of the game.

If you're big on the why, why is Nexus town? No setup spec.

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1.9 Bins, Flameaxe and Mollie are all likely town. Bins because it's remote that three scums all counterwagon the same player.

One of Starbuck or Reck is scum max.

1.15, wagon on Davesto counters scum. Either Davesto or scotmany likely scum.

1.19 notty is likely town.

2.02, CDB caught and bussing here? Or is Dave scum? Scotmany townbeard?

Nexus Davesto Reck..

That's where scum should be.

This is your entire VCA, along with your other posts about Nexus. There is nothing there. At all. We are in day fucking four, and your big analyses is to focus on 5 vote counts throughout day 1 and 2? Fuck you.

You're just dismissing this out of hand. Bins is town because scums don't counter the same player. [analysis] Flameaxe and PM counter scum thus likely town. [analysis] you should be able to look at the VCs and determine how I got there. It takes less energy than bitching that analysis isn't real. Analysis can be concise.

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I am aware that Nexus lost his vote. Serious question. Why would scum remove the one guy or voting scum at the end of the day? Nexus hasn't done shit according to the votes history.

I once beat a game while being voteless scum in 4p lylo after having a role that cced my buddy. So yeah, setup spec sucks.

nexus was making noises about cdb so it is entirely possible that either cdb had to put the action in the day before or that kmd was following up on cdb's play in order to look consistent. which sort of fits a scum MO.

if we don't have an sk then the zito and spiffy nks point to dave I think. so do the early nks if the nks are being based off of the ability to put forth analysis in a lengthy comprehensible way. I am talking about marquis and catboi.

which wld explain why I am still alive cos all any1 is gonna get from me is "they feel this way inside my head" altho i maintain that lynching kmd for not seeing any star wars movies was entirely valid.

I don't see SK viable. I could compromise on Dave and put Nexus in as another townbeard. Given Nexus's aborted busses throught the game and his pushes on town, I prefer him much more.

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VOTE: Davesto

That last post is terrible on its own. Narrowing my pool to 3 players is NOT "seeing what sticks". Second, you should be familiar enough with my VCA to know this.

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Let's look at 1.15 who was the scum on the wagon? The wagon on you looks pretty town.

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I'm just being obnoxious for the hell of it.


You haven't brought me much joy. Who do you think is scum?

well i don'T know who I Think is the last scum... Um... See... (titus because bins srsly)

Let's look at 1.15 who was the scum on the wagon? The wagon on you looks pretty town.

Well Bins for a start

So u think the flameaxe wagon was fully composed of scum? When one could vote mollie instead?

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I think titus is town.

I think this needs to happen and it is a weird thing

VOTE: notscience

Cannot do that

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I'm just being obnoxious for the hell of it.


You haven't brought me much joy. Who do you think is scum?

well i don'T know who I Think is the last scum... Um... See... (titus because bins srsly)

Let's look at 1.15 who was the scum on the wagon? The wagon on you looks pretty town.

Well Bins for a start

So u think the flameaxe wagon was fully composed of scum? When one could vote mollie instead?

It's funny because the last time this logic was used all of the scum

were

on the wagon, so I hope you don't mind if I, you know, disregard it.

Which game?

Second, three scum wouldn't sit on sit on a wagon by themselves.

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I mean if we're gonna go with VCA then I can throw out that even at the height of my wagon (looking at the VCs of course, there might be some that I miss), not a single flipped scum has voted for me? Meaning that, if I am scum, I wasn't bussed. At all. For the entire game.

That's a pretty strong indication you would be the vote thief then. Why wouldn't scum want to vote you if town?

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I don't really understand why Titus is continuing to post after requesting replacement. It's pretty piss poor form and the mod should do something about it.

Could be persuaded onto Notty. Need to doublecheck what stopped me the other Day - I think it was the counterwagon to scum thing though.

The mod doesn't have a problem here. I was pretty clear with what I was doing.

Why not call a spade a spade and say you want me silenced because I suspect you?

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titus you're embarrassing yourself stahp

Care to actually say something other than I'm embarrassing myself because you disagree with my reads?

You're town but you're not being helpful.

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@Dave, They don't sit on a wagon

by themselves

they need a townbeard. Me.

I know how scum act.

Scum is in Nexus You and Reck.
Long shots Starbuck and scotmany.

Everyone else is conftown.

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I would vote Aj over Davsto. I think Davsto's narrative for his disinterest in the game is genuine, whereas Aj is actively avoiding contribution to most aspects of the games but providing disingenuous and over-defensive reasoning for doing so.

You think matt would include both of his scum buddies in this post titus? (Once again you would have saw this had you read the game).

Also, nexus had his vote stolen. By scum most likely. Just stop.

If Davesto is the vote thief that makes sense. Vote goon over PR.

Second, I just finished a game where I was scum that had their vote lost permanently at day 5. Nexus losing his vote for a day as scum isn't impossible.

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Votecount 1.13

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Davsto - 4 - Papa Zito, Scotmany, Bins, ckd
Pirate Mollie -3 - CDB, Starbuck, Reck
MattP - 3 - Flameaxe, Spiffeh, Marquis
Flameaxe - 3 - MattP, AJ the Epic, mykonian
AJ - 2 - Davsto, catboi
notscience - 1 - Nexus

Not voting - 2 - Mollie, notscience,

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-10-23 14:00:00)

Nexus is V/LA until Monday
Zito is V/LA this weekend

This was the VC at the time. I'm inferring MattP read Mollie as town. He's commenting on which wagons he'd vote for.

If Dave is town, why wouldn't MattP want to vote him over AJ. What scum says gee I will vote town over my buddy, particularly when there's already scum voting there?

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@Dave, They don't sit on a wagon

by themselves

they need a townbeard. Me.

I know how scum act.

Scum is in Nexus You and Reck.
Long shots Starbuck and scotmany.

Everyone else is conftown.

VCA ANALYSIS TIME:

WOULD ALL THREE PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK OF SCUM ACTUALLY BE ON YOUR WAGON?

VOTE NOW:

YES

NO

Yes. I caught 2 scum in blitz 1. Both were on my wagon.

There's not likely three scum left.

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can we just lynch notty?

I really think a notty lynch wld be a good thing right about now.

altho I am not opposed to mine and star's lynch.

or titus's

Huh?

Mollie Titus two archnemsis setting aside their differences for town win. Sound good?

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That's not what he's saying. He's saying it's awfully convenient that all of the people you're scumreading just happen to be on your wagon.

And scum trying to capitalize on Mollie's relationship with me would never happen right?

In Blitz 1, my two scumreads were on my wagon.

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This was the VC at the time. I'm inferring MattP read Mollie as town. He's commenting on which wagons he'd vote for.

If Dave is town, why wouldn't MattP want to vote him over AJ.

What scum says gee I will vote town over my buddy

, particularly when there's already scum voting there?

oh I know this 1 pick me!

I am pretty sure I have done this before!

in fact i think I even said in a game that is what I was doing. this might explain why I am frequently bussed by every1 except for hippy, copper and narnian.

*blinks* but scum weren't bussing here for the most part.

Still, I want to alt and roll scum with you.

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Didn't I say Nexus was scum.

If you would have lynched him, that mighta worked.

Thank you Nero for listening for once. I give you a lot of grief about ignoring me, so believe me I noticed.

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I replaced out because I didn't realize Mollie was here when subbing in. I know I make games long sometimes, so frequently I find the long games no one will want and smile. Mollie and I were let's just say frustrated with each other and I wanted us too cool off before playing with her.

So yeah, that's on me. We're going to work it out.

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I am going to suggest Scotmany for his own category.

You got robbed. Great performance but lost down in the wire due to things beyond your control.

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Thank you Nero for listening for once. I give you a lot of grief about ignoring me, so believe me I noticed.

This had 0% to do with me listening to you and 100% to do with me noticing Nexus playing like a fucking scumbag. Even though Nexus was scum and was saying "VCA was shit" to discredit you..I DO agree with him. VCA isn't all that accurate (in this case you were only 33% correct and that's even ignoring the fact that you thought there were 6 scum in an 18 player game which is pants on head) The only reason that VCA "works" is 'cause there are going to be less town alive and a higher chance of scum being on that wagon.

Bite my reachout why don't you.