Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[Ankamius]

ank

wat are you guys doing

We're going ham. Weren't you paying attention?

Ank I like to overreact early on so people have things to talk about

I think you should know this actually?

But your thing was the first scummy thing I saw so I voted you

Problem is I've been able to follow your thought processes when we interacted before this point, and I haven't been able to follow your thoughts this time at all.

-Ank

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Antihero

Why haven't I gotten a townread on you yet?

[Ankamius]

1.

you stopped engaging her the moment she refused to make a pbp analysis of Gork (which is reasonable given her mood at the time, and the fact that gork wasn't doing the same while scumreading mollie)

2.

you dropped the ball on your end first.

3.

and then you went back and are spewing bullshit about how she has failed to talk to you[/spoiler]

1 and 2. This is completely false. I naked voted her once she made it clear that she didn't have any kind of case on this slot from before her vote. I've already went into why I think this is more likely to come from scum-mollie than town-mollie. You'll also notice that I was the one who initiated the interaction between us. Until that point, the only time Mollie had spoken to me at all was a throwaway comment about our play in the first few pages.
3. This already doesn't make sense with the above response, but the fact that you're trying to spin my argument as me saying mollie didn't talk to me at all is ridiculous. My point is that I find it very hard to believe that mollie, as town, would push a scumread on this slot entirely based on my partner's actions without even trying to get a read on me specifically, then try to be cagey when I start engaging her instead of talking with me straight or trying to get my take on the situation.

Have you ever played with antihero before?

yes
but you dont have to be a fucking rocket scientist to figure out that he's obviously disinterested and apathetic towards the game
if you scum-read him not providing useful content halfway into d1 imo that's a borderline trust tell and just absolute bullshit because it doesn't work out that way
people aren't fucking machines

I'm looking for one thing about his play that has strongly indicated him town throughout every single game I've ever played with him as town, and it's completely absent here. Lack of activity doesn't affect the strength of the tell at all.

lmao

There's no way in hell you believe this logic is sound. The fact that you're even mentioning this is scummy as fuck.

it's sound
please tell me how a hydra that doesnt compile scumreads is helpful to the town in any way

Then tell me how you know so much about how this hydra works that you're willing to make and push a point on it despite us never stating how this hydra functions up to that point?

[Ankamius]

Just going to say that I would very likely have ended up voting FB in the end as well.

[Ankamius]

Also noting that my D1 reads were god-tier for the first half of day one if FB isn't massively trolling.

[Ankamius]

That was a really good gambit. I was on your trail but let it go because of the vote thing :/

[Ankamius]

ftr I'm fine with the hydra PT being released as is.

[Ankamius]

It depends on the scum win condition, Firebringer. If it's just scum wins when they make up 50% of the playerlist still alive, then it's still a scum win.

I reached the same conclusion you did and assumed that it would be bastard modding to allow a voteless scum to reach the endgame alone, so I auto-assumed town.

[Ankamius]

Mario, it's 50% rounded up to the next whole number.

7 alive, 4 to lynch.
9 alive, 5 to lynch.
13 alive, 7 to lynch.

etc.

[Ankamius]

It depends on the scum win condition, Firebringer. If it's just scum wins when they make up 50% of the playerlist still alive, then it's still a scum win.

I reached the same conclusion you did and assumed that it would be bastard modding to allow a voteless scum to reach the endgame alone, so I auto-assumed town.

[Ankamius]

Win Condition > Everything else.

If the conditions were met, then they win the game. Period. Everything else is irrelevant.

[Ankamius]

FTR I'm willing to bet 100% that this exact situation is why that specific win condition was chosen.

[Ankamius]

Enjoy being wrong, then.

[Ankamius]

I made a post in another game on the site about how to read Titus and I can't remember which game it was in. I can't remember exactly what it was either, but it was something about looking for the holes in her logic and fitting that to an alignment since her scumgame is very deliberate.

[Ankamius]

im sorry for not listening to you on your titus read ank <3

meh

I wasn't exactly pushing it and I only

really

pointed it out after the setup made it very unlikely she was scum. It's barely even a point that I read her more or less correctly by her play and got snowed by how she played the setup.

[Ankamius]

Both slots of CharlotteBebe consented to our PT being released.

[Ankamius]

Gork I'll def hydra with you again if you're up for it sometime after my January V/LA.