Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[Suzune]

Good Evening everyone, I will try to read and catch up now~

[Suzune]

Well that was the first time I have read a game that was significantly difficult to back read for a number of reasons. The first being that everyone decides to be goofy sometimes now this might be some kind of new mafia tactic I have not heard of but it was indeed weird to read. As far as people go so far, I have made the following observations:

CharlotteBebe has the cutest avatar ever, I just want to hug it. So adorable. Sorry, it was distracting me, that I have told you it should be better.

Mario has so few posts it is hard to get a read on them.

3Dice posts a lot of things but very rarely says what he feels about it with the exception of the scum painting post. This makes me rather curious about them because they are not allowing their opinions to be put forth so it is difficult to tell alignment because I cannot read anything as either pro town or pro scum

I get a pretty town feeling from Charlotte. They are analyzing posts and look to be taking opinions into account.

This is where I am at now.

[Suzune]

^ vig plz

That would be super disappointing after I just joined...

[Suzune]

will you move your vote or engage in the game any further?

Ah, I'm sorry I forgot. I have never replaced in as someone who had a vote before. Usually they are voteless so I did not consider.
UNVOTE:
I will place a new vote when I am sure of a new place. I apologize.

[Suzune]

I apologize, I am kind of scurrying I had a tough weekend and am now trying to pull everything together. So I want to make an effort, but I am having trouble finding my footing in this game. My gut is to vote for 3Dice. Even though there is not a lot of information on them right now. If find them odd all in all. Their posting style and the fact that they are always confused and going to read the topic strikes me as the oddest part.

Spif was upset that I did not read him so I am going to go back and do that now too. When I was first reading his ISO I found that he was kind of scummy. However the way that he handled all of the pressure posts and the things that were said by him make me suspect town. The posting is too nonchalant to be scum. While I am not sure there is a lot of scum hunting they have made some remarks that I think will be worth it down the line depending on how this game flow settles

[Suzune]

I am not one to vote quickly because I feel like a vote cements that this is something you are fully ready to go for. While at this point I am not yet certain who I am going to go for.

In all the games I've ever replaced in, I've had a relatively strong grasp on who I wanted to vote. That's what's kind of throwing me off about suzune.

Yes typically I am the same way. I just cannot seem to find my footing in this game.

[Suzune]

Tell you what

You can lynch me and when I flip town you don't ever vote Maxous and you lynch the fuck out of Saki, Anti, and Gilgamesh

Deal?

Deal.

Seems like an odd playing strategy. It really forces someones hand because it makes it assume that there are no choices even though it is presented as a choice. You are basically saying if you think highly enough I am scum then do it, but heed my advice. Therefore, one believes highly in the town motivations.

So I believe this is an interesting gambit.

[Suzune]

STOP LYNCHING MY NEIGHBOR

neighborhood?

[Suzune]

Suzanne I thought you read the thread

I did...but I might have missed that part. I am sorry.

[Suzune]

Okay, I am about to make a serious effort to get my head into this game.

[Suzune]

For anyone who panicks and thinks, she posted that but is not doing anything. I am rereading the topic a lot more carefully this time.

[Suzune]

and we are town! and in a hood with spiffeh!

Good news I found the neighborhood post. However the wording was very difficult to understand, it would have been much better if you had spelled out neighborhood because I never expected it to be shortened to hood.

Okay, I wrote little notes on this game the second read through. So I feel comfortable placing my vote on
VOTE: Spiffeh

I realise that this is an odd choice since I partially read him the first time. However, when I read the game in context I was far less impressed. I think he has gotten by most of the game pushing a really strange read with very little reason. To be fair, I am a tad bias on this one because the scum read started because of a joke. I did not find that itlepip reaction was unusual in any way and I felt like any time he/she (sorry, I did not check), he tried to defend themself or make a comment about why it was silly Spiffeh just kind of tossed it back at him. It struck me as one of those you lose by posting kind of situation. However, I do not feel that itlepip was wrong to commit to it and I also find it strange that the read itself has not been expanded on over time. People linger on that vote but it is little more then saying follow me lynch itlepip.

A few other things that caught my eye was the debate about the miller and whether how that should be handled. In the early phases of the game is the right time to make a choice based on this. I do find the balance kind of strange having a neighbhorhood and a miller. Seems kind of strange because that is like confirming three townies right off the bat. So that is where I draw my question about the claim from. I know that Titus has said a million times not to do that, but bad habits die hard.

[Suzune]

post 261

Sorry this one is the response by itlpip but it has the post I want inside of it. Also this one as well post 262. Since i cannot see a good reason to keep the vote you are implying that there is something else when that post is about maxious rather then the situation you are voting for. Seems like you are keeping light and airy votes rather then reading the people. Almost like you are trying to see how many people you can get to follow you.

[Suzune]

Catch up post coming~

[Suzune]

Who can spot the bus vote?

In my opinion quite a few of those votes are bus votes. Which one in particular are you talking about?

I don't understand suggesting a mafia role pm is red, is some kind of scum tell. Usually mafia is red, kind of the generic color. If she was suggesting that someone was third party and the color or if there was a second mafia faction then I could see this being kind of odd. However, calling a mafia pm red is hardly mysterious to me. Therefore it is not a huge leap of logic to suggest that mafia pms are red.

[Suzune]

half tempted to hammer itlepip for lolz

I feel like it would not progress the town team if you do things just because.

[Suzune]

half tempted to hammer itlepip for lolz

I feel like it would not progress the town team if you do things just because.

"The town team"?

Just a shortening of my usual speech about the town being a team. Seemed like it was time to shorten it a tad.

[Suzune]

half tempted to hammer itlepip for lolz

I feel like it would not progress the town team if you do things just because.

-___-

why are you so fluffy.

Fluffy?

[Suzune]

as in you're

saying things

but you're not really giving opinions on who the town/scum is etc.

p-edit: @suzune

though uhh, I COULD vote Mario again if he doesn't give us anything

I thought it was pretty clear that I thought it was kind of scummy to want to hammer someone just because you wanted to. I apologise that it was not clear.

[Suzune]

Why do you state a nullread on me with the four reads you give?
Seems a bit weird to me.

I find it unusual that you have such a hard time having reads. You are always playing catch up but then you decide to finally post something and you scum read me for a having a null read on you. I would kind of like to see more from your slot.

[Suzune]

Why do you state a nullread on me with the four reads you give?
Seems a bit weird to me.

I find it unusual that you have such a hard time having reads. You are always playing catch up but then you decide to finally post something and you scum read me for a having a null read on you. I would kind of like to see more from your slot.

I don't scumread you for having a nullread on me.
Try again.

Then you will have to enlighten me, because I see no other reason being suggested.

[Suzune]

Oh I actually like older games for meta tbh if I engage in it. It removes a good chunk of learning and gets more at personality.

I would give you window into the development of a player too, which might show leads and interactions. Sorry, could not resist interjecting a little.

[Suzune]

Sorry, I was reading through and something happened to come to me. I apologise for interjecting.

[Suzune]

No, I am afraid I am not the alt for anyone. I am just me. Although info get asked this question a lot.

[Suzune]

Edit- ah I pads... That last line should read. Although I do get asked this question a lot

[Suzune]

Actually nevermind. I'm just going to dig into your meta.

~R

Regardless I answered. All my past games are on my wiki go ahead. Personally I am not a fan of using meta, however you are most free to flip through it

[Suzune]

Oh Mario simply because I noticed you were always posting about not knowing rather than saying anything. By marking I would remember that it interested me and I would be able to go back and look at you later. Similiar to having a living record, my reads are alive and adapt now that I can be in the moment.

[Suzune]

I apologise but I do not get it is kind of vague. What is there to not get about it. Looks pretty simple to me. Itlepip commented silly when he should have commented on the events. This in turn bothered spif. So spif voted on him and got a mini wagon started for no reason. Itlepip attempted to confront him about the reason for the train and spif said basically that his reaction was enough to justify the train.

It looks to me like a lucky mistake. I know how frustrating it is to be in that position itlepip was in and with no real case sitting on him the train does not make sense to me. There is the case in a nutshell.

Although to be fair to you Mario. You joined that train for a while for no real reason.

[Suzune]

so uhh confession, haven't been following this game much over the last few days.

I'm okay following 3DR and the confirmed town I guess?

w/e the case, I think Saki is a mislynch waiting to happen

explain to me how you think 3Dr is town?

There's a confirmed town???

Yes There is an innocent child.

[Suzune]

That innocent child is cold pizza

[Suzune]

That innocent child is cold pizza

Who hasn't posted in ages and isn't in any way leading town to victory.

I must agree they are quite quiet.

[Suzune]

I apologise but I do not get it is kind of vague. What is there to not get about it. Looks pretty simple to me. Itlepip commented silly when he should have commented on the events. This in turn bothered spif. So spif voted on him and got a mini wagon started for no reason. Itlepip attempted to confront him about the reason for the train and spif said basically that his reaction was enough to justify the train.

It looks to me like a lucky mistake. I know how frustrating it is to be in that position itlepip was in and with no real case sitting on him the train does not make sense to me. There is the case in a nutshell.

Although to be fair to you Mario. You joined that train for a while for no real reason.

There is definitely reasoning behind the wagon. The way you are talking is as if you are only reading through a certain page. Lucky mistake literally makes no sense whatsoever. You need to elaborate more.

@Itlepip - I'm going to respond to you later when I can get on a computer, where I can quote better and look at the thread easier.

I'm also not a fan of the MM4 wagon, but I do think Titus is town. Still scumreading Rogue slot.

i apologize but I get a bad feeling from this lynch. I feel pretty sure it is going to come up townie. Since you clearly are well clued in on the reasons perhaps you can explain it for me because I do not see anyone joining the train for really well thought out reasons.

[Suzune]

I just got home, I was called into work. I will catch up now

[Suzune]

Okay, might have fallen asleep in front of the computer, posting coming.

Not sure why you are apologizing. I'm also not sure why you are asking me to answer a question I just asked you?

Apologises are sort of my thing, bad habit your could say. However, we are not asking the same question. I said I had a bad feeling about the itlepip lynch and my gut was saying that it thought it would flip town. So I said, if there are so many cases against it, then perhaps you could explain it to me. Scratch that you explained it in your next post.

This reason comes from a bias place for me because I was recently lynched for what started as a joke post and my reaction to the train, so it feels similar to me.

I want Mario to do things but he is not scum for not doing things.

At what point does someone become scum for not doing something?

[Suzune]

Wait, why am I scum?

[Suzune]

Maxous thet reasoning is silly and assumes that everyone makes reads at the same speed and that I am in some way unable to do that. I have stated opinions as the game has gone and posted feelings and cases.

[Suzune]

Suzune what are your thoughts on itlepip and Mario?

I feel like I have given my thoughts on itlepip many times over because this it is what lead to my vote on you. As for Mario, he is one I have not yet commented on. The one thing I do not get about Mario is that he has been in the game the entire time however, he has been unable to get any reads. He is always commenting about not getting into the game. Then the minute he needs something he takes the vote of opportunity, because I am scummy apparently for making reads too slow, and then sticks with it there.

[Suzune]

Heavens, that is a speedy lynch...

[Suzune]

Well, I figured it was hard to respond to something if it was not clear what I was being charged with. So I would react and see if anyone was arourd. I said it yesterday but I do not understand the reason you think I am scum. And since I do not understand it is hard for me to defend myself.

[Suzune]

If the issue here is I took a night action then yes you are right. It is one of those roles I would rather not have to claim because while the town will stop looking at you, the mafia then notices you. But okay, I'm the Doctor.

[Suzune]

Considering I am not a master of soft claims, therefore I do not think I have made any. However, there was been one night in game so far and my target was antihero. I chose them because j have played with them before and they have been amazing late game with reasoning out the system, so o hoped to hear more of their reads. My second thought was charolette because I get good town feelings from them and that they seem to to after things that interest them.

[Suzune]

Sometimes I wonder why I wrote long posts if no one ever reads them...

[Suzune]

please.

I do not know what you want me to do to prove it. But this lynch is kindof overly excessive. What more can I give to you?

[Suzune]

But strategically there is no point in killing an innocent child night one because there is a higher chance of getting a town power role thet could be detrimental to the mafia. Therefore I assumed they would be safe. Also our innocent child was quiet so I figured they were even less of a threat.

[Suzune]

It was only one action I commented on. Thet was hammering for the lol of it. If it was not clear I was pushing other lynches then it got missed.

[Suzune]

Not gonna lie, I'm pretty confused at this point.

seriously what is there to be confused about? They want to lynch me, I claimed Doctor, Titus is debating ideas seems pretty straight forward.

[Suzune]

Doc Suzune not protecting Cold Pizza = scum

i already said why I did not protect him.

[Suzune]

Doc Suzune not protecting Cold Pizza = scum

i already said why I did not protect him.

he was not well recieved yesterday, what if it was a bluff? I figured wait and see what happened and then make a more informed Decision in days to come.

[Suzune]

Is something going to happen?

[Suzune]

I feel like this is one of those moments in werewolf where the faith priest like person can purify a werewolf and if they are right the werewolf dies or if they are wrong they get a second shot.

[Suzune]

Is something going to happen?

Yeah, all three votes are going to be vig shots on you.

-Ank

Well not the most creative way I have ever died, but I suppose it is one for the record book. I always die most creatively when I am a doctor...

[Suzune]

Well, what else am I supposed to do. So yes, that was my sense of humor speaking, it was marveling at all the strange ways I die when I am the doctor.

[Suzune]

Well it was interesting. I expected something exciting, with the doctor dying. Kind of lackluster...

[Suzune]

Well if we are all done with this foolishness, I think I would like to lynch someone else.

VOTE: 3dicerolling

[Suzune]

Also I feel like that last vote was attempted distancing of scum before she dies. I am still in favor of killing Suzune here though.

If I was scum I would not sell them out that way, that would put them in danger and it is a common trick and I like to think I am more clever then that.

[Suzune]

I want Rogue to post before we hammer Suzune.

Why should he say anything at all. He will probably just hammer. Free lynch, no one is talking about anyone else.

[Suzune]

why would you distrust such a spooky play?

Because you did it to get a reaction. However, I strongly believe you did not get the one you intended.

[Suzune]

Does anyone know any roles that have anything like the purify effect?

Only the one I mentioned when I saw it. In werewolf, which is a kind of mafia, there is a role where the someone during the night phases chooses someone they think is a werewolf. If they are right they purify their spirit killing them. If they are wrong they get a second shot, missing the second shot kills them

[Suzune]

I am familiar with the flavor but I know not who you are. I have a guess though. I am the doctor, so very well you should know who I am too~

[Suzune]

A little research goes a long way itlepip, I be the only doctor in the game with an infirmary. However, that is neither here nor there as it is irrelevant to the game.

[Suzune]

Sometimes boring is easy. Shinra was merely just the doctor in Durarara mafia. Although he has a nice power if he got Celty back her head~

[Suzune]

Ah Ank, don't I wish I was something cooler. However, this time I am just the doctor.

[Suzune]

Someone else as in anyone that's not you?

Well not me is preferable. However, you have a pretty good chance for being scum in my opinion therefore, why not you?