NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

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o/ I think

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I read some things, and I got a suprising number of townreads from the first 8. The last 8 lessso, but I specificly remember liking Fire throughout and lking elyse's entrance and shiro.

Y does fire hate you?

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VOTE: Pistachi0n

nice virus there

VOTE: Titus

When

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she scum?

VOTE: davesto

I was town in your game. You need pressure.

VOTE: Shiro for going first

What's wrong with going first?
VOTE: pistachi0n

... I'll be back tomorrow

loving that mod vote

This seems like the sort of thing that scum would comment on early on.
VOTE: Heat

On a different note, hello everyone.

Were you scumreading FA? Because if you trust Frozen's claim and I am frozen Im confuzzled.

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Were you scumreading FA? Because if you trust Frozen's claim and I am frozen Im confuzzled.

lol Q+

That got old quick

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Are the different colors in the opening post significant

oh hey. I dont know.

There were 2 kills night 3+4 and only 1 1+2. So maybe? Did anyone ask why thats a thing?

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Im kind of mad you turned out to be scum in blitz 16

What am I looking for?

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:< You wouldnt' have gotten me mislynched. But I mean I was a monk.

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Nos replaced Nero. Hes got like 8 posts total. Y was nero scum? Nero looks townier as scum imo

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Hasnt shiro been claiming cop results though? And what about rylai?

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ohs. thats shiro

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o/ Hi shiro! Why arent you lurking like in othr large games weve played?

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idk the whole 'im not a cop but i get cop results and nobody else does' is akin to a cop claim.

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It makes you as much a target as the cop themself, tbh.

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ROLE PM
You are a Town Socialist (Town Vanilla Cop/Modifie d Inventor).

Abilities:
Each night phase you may PM the moderator the name of one player and one ability from the list below
Possible invented abilities: Watch, Roleblock, Neighborize, Kill
At the end of the night phase, you will receive a PM letting you know "You r targe t is NOT Va nilla" or "Your target is Vanilla and will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you targeted them with", or "You got No Result" (Vanilla Cop).
If the player returns a vanilla result, that player will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you chose (Modified Inventor).
If the player does not return a vanilla result, the ability will not be given.
Once an ability is chosen, it may not be chosen again regardless of if it was successfully given or not.

Win condition:
You are aligned with the Town and win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is alive.Socialist (Town Vanilla Cop/Modified Inventor).Abilities:Each night phase you may PM the moderator the name of one player and one ability from the list belowPossible invented abilities: Watch, Roleblock, Neighborize, Kill At the end of the night phase, you will receive a PM letting you know "Your target is NOT Vanilla" or "Your target is Vanilla and will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you targeted them with", or "You got No Result" (Vanilla Cop).If the player returns a vanilla result, that player will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you chose (Modified Inventor).If the player does not return a vanilla result, the ability will not be given.Once an ability is chosen, it may not be chosen again regardless of if it was successfully given or not.Win condition: You are aligned with the Town and win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is alive.

Can you do that thing where you explain how any of her abilities clear you?

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Also

vote: nos

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Now? There are at least 2 scum factions, and I want nos to talk

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Is piggy scum for PoE?

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Yea, 2 factions.

Ive seen piggy as scum and he lurksacked it up.

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Y piggy over nos?

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because I voted the largely inactive nos while I asked pigs a question?

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Thats terrible. Feel ashamed

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Do you believe shiro then?

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w.e. Im pretty sure you know better than that.

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what do you think of Shiro's claim?

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Y? They said they were a cop, and got a bunch of nulls on nos.

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Why would she?


Also hi can you answer this? Why are you clear?

ROLE PM
You are a Town Socialist (Town Vanilla Cop/Modifie d Inventor).

Abilities:
Each night phase you may PM the moderator the name of one player and one ability from the list below
Possible invented abilities: Watch, Roleblock, Neighborize, Kill
At the end of the night phase, you will receive a PM letting you know "You r targe t is NOT Va nilla" or "Your target is Vanilla and will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you targeted them with", or "You got No Result" (Vanilla Cop).
If the player returns a vanilla result, that player will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you chose (Modified Inventor).
If the player does not return a vanilla result, the ability will not be given.
Once an ability is chosen, it may not be chosen again regardless of if it was successfully given or not.

Win condition:
You are aligned with the Town and win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is alive.Socialist (Town Vanilla Cop/Modified Inventor).Abilities:Each night phase you may PM the moderator the name of one player and one ability from the list belowPossible invented abilities: Watch, Roleblock, Neighborize, Kill At the end of the night phase, you will receive a PM letting you know "Your target is NOT Vanilla" or "Your target is Vanilla and will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you targeted them with", or "You got No Result" (Vanilla Cop).If the player returns a vanilla result, that player will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you chose (Modified Inventor).If the player does not return a vanilla result, the ability will not be given.Once an ability is chosen, it may not be chosen again regardless of if it was successfully given or not.Win condition: You are aligned with the Town and win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is alive.

Can you do that thing where you explain how any of her abilities clear you?

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Bolded backup this time. I am the backup socialist. Drixx got his present from me.

-.-

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okay?

You roleblocked a commuter and claimed to catch scum?

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my first impression is that youre full of it. i wasnt even capable of acting last night. being an even night commuter and all

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right. Shiro has been claiming null returns on scum half the fame and you vote with sombody who claims to have roleblocked?

I havent read most the game, but theres a lot of oddness going on

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im mobile rn, but I shot plotfrog a message and wanna poke around tomorrow.

You guys thinkits possible for a second faction?

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If we're in lylo youre okay voting me?

Unless drixx was on the same team as you you'd have just put us in an untenable position.

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I asked if a person could kill and perform an action in the same night and nopers.

The conclusion Im getting is that if it were an SK he wouldnt be a roleblocker too, so some townie would have to be consistently roleblocking Shiro and not claiming. Which is antitown of them.

I think we should consider massclaiming, and then PoEing it, but I think its another scum team. It makes the most sense.

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Angel

What do you mean? I havent read most of the game.

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Was I confed and youre really pushing that angel?

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We already are in an endable situation if you are town and drixx is town. 4 to lynch and group scum were 3.

Both of you cannot be town as of right now. I believe everyone would have posted and you would have been hammered (or voted more to set it up)

Nopers, I thought about that. All the flipped scum so far were weak together. The only powerrole they had was

København Mafia Jack of All Trades (1-Shot Roleblocker, 1-Shot Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Doctor)

To keep shiro blocked up theyd need a full-time blocker, which automatically makes them stronger than the flipped scum so far?

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So you think that the scum have been taking turns RBing you but not killing you? I dont think they have any way of coordinting that. I just checked the op and they dont even have daychat

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vote: Shiro

I think this is where we should be.

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I dont think there are 3 scum. To have a balanced game scum need to be relatively equal, and I dont see how a JoaT and 2 goons is equal to a RB and 2 goons. And the JoaT had a doc and Jailer, which makes him capable of doing a lot more than the other RB.

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Why are you so insistent that there are 3 scum?

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Are they?

So far you seem to think Im on Fire's team, but havent listed your third scumread even though you keep insisting this is lylo

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I dont think there are 3 scum. To have a balanced game scum need to be relatively equal, and I dont see how a JoaT and 2 goons is equal to a RB and 2 goons. And the JoaT had a doc and Jailer, which makes him capable of doing a lot more than the other RB.

^^

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Aye, even night commuter.

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wat?

Doesnt having a passive power change your role to 'not vanilla'? Ima ask.

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I dont think Plot will be able to answer, but I think Drixx claimed to have gotten his BP before his RB. But doesnt having the BP shot make him 'Not Vanilla' and thus ineligible to recieve a RB shot?

What are the socialist abilities again?

They were...[/color]

Grib - Vanilla Townie

Titus - Town Socialist

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Role PM

• You are a
  Town Socialist (Town Vanilla Cop/Modified Inventor)
  .
  
  
  Abilities:
  • Each night phase you may PM the moderator the name of one player and one ability from the list below
    
  • Possible invented abilities: Watch, Roleblock, Neighborize, Kill
    
  • At the end of the night phase, you will receive a PM letting you know "Your target is
    NOT Vanilla
    " or "Your target is
    Vanilla
    and will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you targeted them with", or "You got
    No Result
    " (Vanilla Cop).
    
  • If the player returns a vanilla result, that player will receive a 1-shot version of the ability you chose (Modified Inventor).
    
  • If the player does not return a vanilla result, the ability will not be given.
    
  • Once an ability is chosen, it may not be chosen again regardless of if it was successfully given or not.
  
  
  
  Win condition:
  
  You are aligned with the
  Town
  and win when all threats to the
  Town
  have been eliminated and at least one
  Town
  -aligned player is alive.

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o.o

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unvote

So whats all this then?

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I never got that. How is an sk dfferent than multiball proper?

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It should be easier to figure out multiball based on associations, whereas the sk only needs to act town and keep his real scumhhunting private.

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Hes been hardsofting VT

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The mod says that the name of the original role determines if they can recieve inventor powers.

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Not that it matters now.

If drixx rbed me than he is town. Except I had no actions anyway so how do we even know he isnt lying?

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fair enough.

How do we explain Shiro's claim to be a cop with all the nulls then?

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wait cop cleared?

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You mean a gunsmith. I thought you were claiming shiro had an inno on you.

Well why does town have a cop and a gunsmith?

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*Joat with shot of gunsmith*

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I dont think there's an SK though.

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@Mod: can somebody perform a role action and a factional action in the same night?

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or 2 actions period?

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I should probably share: I was given a 1-shot roleblock during the night.

I see this; but I cant find who confirmed it.

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Shiro, can you answer these please?

Why are you so insistent that there are 3 scum?

Are they?

So far you seem to think Im on Fire's team, but havent listed your third scumread even though you keep insisting this is lylo

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i figured it was you or titus, i couldnt find the post

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thats not a third scumread, thats trying to avoid calling soneone out.

you think its lylo but only have 2 scumreads. that doesnt make sense

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Im a little unsettled by the avatar tbh.

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Its still a shiro who has claimed to be blocked all game.

vote: shiro

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you have to include Espeonage as scum also

Shiro/Espeonage/Drixx

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Thats fine. Too many scum in the pot.

Piggy gave you an RB. So youd be scum with him if anyone. And then have to be able to return innos.

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is it? Cmon bro, youre getting overdefensive.

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Take the pill of chill and think.

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Im not the one saying theres 3 scum and not naming a third.

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Im pretty sure Ive stated its most likely an SK or 2 scum.

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Did I say you tried to frame me? can you not put words in my mouth?

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I asked about you and Im satisfied you cant be scum because itd require a 3man team, and I see no reason for that to exist.

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The lynch pool should be Fire, me, shiro, espeonage, and possibly piggy if theres reason to expect that scum can be an inventor.

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btw, shiro's suprise at Elye's claim makes me wonder if ely has claimed IC before her massclaim post.

Elsye are you mod confirmable?

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Given what we've seen flip, does it make sense to posit a straight roleblocker who has just camped on Shiro all game?

Thats possible I guess. How does a roleblocker balance with the other team?

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SK roleblocker? Is that a thing?

Ive seen aescetic sks, but idk about <active power> sks. I had a double voter sk in my large.

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thats not a third scumread, thats trying to avoid calling soneone out.

you think its lylo but only have 2 scumreads. that doesnt make sense

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I dont see how you think its lylo. You keep saying because you havent seen it it doesnt happen.

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Its not game over in any case. There is unlikely to be a 3man scumteam out there: the insistence on it is the last line of defense.


How do you balance a three man team to the one we have flipped now? 1roleblocker and 2goons /=/ A joat with 2protective roles and 2 roleblocking roles

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i get that theres a claimed roleblock on me. I dont get that suddenly shiro thonks its lylo and keeps saying that then calls me a good player who is dumbtelling.

All game shiro has been lying. she hasnt been able to clear anyone and instead claims to be roleblocked all game instead of killed by the scum. she claims they took turns doing so in order to make her claim work.

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this 3man team idea is crapola and doesnt make sense from a setup spec perspective

Im entirely mobile today or Id try to sit you through why.

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if there were 3 scum one of us would e dead by now

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if there were 3 scum one of us would e dead by now

Unless my action stopped said kill. Occam's razor makes you the proper kill today. Occam's razor is not infallible; obviously. But just the same ... it requires many more assumptions for any other lynch to make sense.

If there were 3 scum and one of us is town cross voting scum would quickhammer.

what does that have to do with your nigh action?

You can say all you want that occams razor, but if it were just that simple we wouldnt need to have this.

3man scumteam doesnt work giventhe strength of the other scumteam, and shiro's play today is imo telling

walk with me and talk setup spec.

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the lack of a hammer s only further proof that its not existing. Its shiro's main line of defense

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So you have no issues painting the whole lynch pool as my buddy but need to ask me who your buddy is? Its still completely posible you are an SK according to Frogs response

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why you no killed? I dont engage is such wifom usually but Ill take a few stabs at it.

To live another day
If 2groupscum to make it to lylo instead of dying before it. you gain a extra death this way.
To frame somebody as a roleblocker or to force a massclaim.

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Tell me more about why you targeted nos so much, and why you pushed him despite 2 nulls on him amd a third on another player. any cop should be questioming their results, not accusing people of being aescetic and then accusing 2 opposing scums of taking turns roleblocking you.

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piggys. we need your vote to finish it

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im awful sad your going to kill me but at least you kniw what to do tomorrow

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im town.

You guys win for me, okay?

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I tend to agree that small scum teams and a lot of clearing roles dont mix well.

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Meh, if that shiro lynch went through you would have had a decent shot at it.

I didnt press pignash hard enough

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You should take this to a listmod if you have an issue. And out of this thread whatever else you do

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Good. I hope you still dont care when people stop playing with you.

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Frogger asked me to replace another slot before yours, and I declined as a gesture of recognition towards your hurt feels. Once you were gone there was no reason not to.

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Nobody's threatening you.

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We're asking you to take to the proper channels or to make a GD thread about your complaints.