You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Aunt Jemina]

VOTE: PeregrineV.
This is not a serious vote.

I propose we--aw, who am I kidding.

[Aunt Jemina]

Intuition says she's scum.

Oh, Nenny, deary, such flattery is unnecessary when speaking to me.

Please, just say, "instinct says she's scum".

Actually, AJ is RVS, Aneninen is serious vote.

Deary, what you say here does not match what you said earlier.

VOTE: Passionate Storm.

Errant

may

also be sour, however, I am not sure of this.

...Actually, while Passionate Storm is a sourread of mine, I think that I'd rather do this:
VOTE: Klingoncelt.
While I am scumreading them, regardless of their alignment, I think Celty is sour for this:

FoS: Passionate Storm

I'm not sure if what you're doing is D1 silliness or if you're both drunken Scum.

I'm going to go make a pot of coffee now, looks like it's going to be a long night.

There is no reason for an FoS, least of all when you have yet to cast a vote, at this stage in the game.

[Aunt Jemina]

I sort-of want to call TSO sour for how his posts come off as being unproductive, however, that is probably this old lady being senile.

[Aunt Jemina]

Oh him being unproductive is not in question; he even admitted as such.
The potentially-senile bit is calling him scum for it.

[Aunt Jemina]

Like this post here by AJ. Klingon should be swinging here.
~Titus

Again your actions do not match your words, as you do not vote Celty in this post.

Jeanne RVSed AJ. Not sure where se's talking about it not matching what I said earlier

VOTE: Aunt Jemina
This is the other head.

This was the aforementioned vote. It is from the other head, so you can try to argue hydra miscommunication/dissonance all you like, but in your own words: it does not seem like RVS to me. However, what's truly condemning is this, where you say it's not an RVS vote:

It's early enough, I can give you time and

Jeanne wants to pursue AJ for awhile

, but I got my eye on you.

Pursuing is not RVS.

@51 both heads agree you look like scum. Jeanne's gut.
We asked why EE doesn't like the thread.

Jeanne pressed on AJ.

Pressing is not RVS, and furthermore, the implication at this point is that you have communicated with Jeanne, thus, know Jeanne's opinion on me. Yet later, when you're called out on it...you change your story to it being RVS.

If my vote wasn't on Celty, it would be on you, deary.

[Aunt Jemina]

151 looks like a scum wall

I

see

it, however, I am not convinced. As the wall continues, I saw further thought which looked potentially sweet.

AuntJennina, your 128 is <3 vote included

<3 (Nenny is sweet.)

In other news, Exxy (Extrapolated Eagle) is definitely sweet. (Thus, the dual Nenny/Exxy wagons are both bad and at some later point will be examined for finding scum.)

Both heads of Spiffyloppy are also strongly sweet.

VOTE: spifflop

While horrible, I do not see scum making a vote this bad. At least not nakedly. So grappy is slightly sweet, too.

Interesting that you point out the buddying towards AJ, yet your vote doesn't go towards any player buddying her. And you vote itle for post 203? That's weaker than weak sauce.
Your play feels very careful and contrived. Awaiting spiffehs meta on you, but in the meantime

vote: Extrapolated Eagle

Pot, kettle, black. (Inny is a minor scumread.)

[Aunt Jemina]

Extrapolated Eagle

(4): Garmr, I Am Innocent, itlepip, Elyse

Aneninen

(3): Passionate Storm, T S O, Alchemist21

In approximate order, most sweet to most sour, we've got Alchy, Pippy, Gammy, Elly, TSO, Inny, and Stormy.

That I would happily lynch the latter three (and none of these names are particularly sweet) should inform you of why these are not good wagons.

I will go there as soon as I get confirmation from my more well dressed partner!

I would prefer you not lose focus of Celty.

Grappy cannot be scum if Celty isn't; vice-versa is not true.
Grappy is unlikely to be sour anyway, thus, voting there is unproductive.

Grappy raised a point which is valid, albeit not in the way stated: many players pointed out Celty's suspicious actions, and only about half of them followed through with a vote. This is an indicator of scum, in the names calling it suspicious who abstained from the wagon.

[Aunt Jemina]

@AJ Why are you townreading Alchemist?

I'm not.

That's the

point

of 364: the entirety of the Exxy and Nenny wagons are players I hold no sweet feelings for, and in three cases, explicitly hold sour ones.

And yeah Kling deserves votes but parking a vote on him now is fruitless since he hasn't posted since his FoS.

Who said anything about a vote park? I'm voting Celty because I want her

lynched

.

[Aunt Jemina]

Spiffyloppy and Spidey (Gwen), dearies, I do hope you take a nice good look at the composition of the grapes wagon you are forming and realize why grappy is sweet.

[Aunt Jemina]

Dappy

may

also be sour.

[Aunt Jemina]

grapes (5): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, itlepip, Passionate Storm
This is not a wagon on a sour player.

[Aunt Jemina]

Ah.

Now I remember why in the last YCBA game, I virtually flaked D1 and only bounced back D2.

It is quite easy to fall behind and lose motivation to catch up.

How do you feel about her right now?

Elly is a top-sorting priority of mine. I have tried to sort her desperately, but I have not been able to in good faith place her solidly as either sour or sweet. However, I must say that if I am looking for her to be one alignment in particular, I am on higher guard for her being sour, and that I have not seen such indicators would mean if I must place an alignment on her, it would be sweet.

AJ- a man would like your take on Alchemist with supporting reasons please

I have none. Alchy is not a player I've read, though similar to Elly, if I had to guess I would assume sweet.

I must say: a great deal of the conversations I am reading leave me wishing I had skimmed or skipped them, as they are providing me with nothing new.

Erm, that doesn't match your list posted in 364

Yes it does.
The list I posted in 364 was a list of all the voters on you and Exxy.
It was not a list of all my scumreads.
Celty, for instance, was not among them.
The list in 364 augmented my reads; it was not the basis of them.

[Aunt Jemina]

EBWOP:

Elly is a top-priority sorting-wise for me.

[Aunt Jemina]

I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game. That or some kind of neighborizer/masonizer are the only reasons I can think he'd be asking about Clotilde. That alone makes him unlikely to be group scum at least. I still think he's snarkier here than he usually is; even the game he linked doesn't really have snark.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Varsoon
I don't like how he said him posting would be a bad idea. Varsoon, I want some of your thoughts on the game.

Hmm, this is giving me extreme pause on Alchy.

I would not call him as strong a sour read as Dappy, who themselves are not as strong a sour read as a player like Celty, but he is no longer on the positive side of null.

[Aunt Jemina]

No idea how you're townreading EE, AJ, but I'd really love to know! And soon.

Exxy's posting has been incredibly sweet, albeit not always agreeable. I very much dislike the wagon which formed on him, and furthermore, I disagree with the notion of him being awkward in the RVS. I felt he was natural, and since that is the main basis behind him being read as sour, I do not approve of his lynch.

I feel uneasy that you said you'd happily lynch me, in particular (though I can feel my ego talking.)

I made my stance on you clear enough.

Your posting has changed that to be more ambivalent rather than actually sour, yet my words remain all the same, deary.

I really hate the Eagle wagon. He seems like lynchbait 101 to me.

I would not call him lynchbait.

I would however call him the counterwagon to Celty.

[Aunt Jemina]

There's actually only 2 names there that I hate.

At least one additional name joins in the form of Shiro if it means anything to you.

whos the scum on your wagon, kling?

Passionate Storm and itlepip for sure, maybe you, AJ, &/or Elyse (Elyse is not looking like solid town right now.) Aneninen, I never could read him, so maybe. The Cotilde thing is creepy btw.

"Literally everyone on my wagon could be scum!"

Particularly egregious given her prior reads:

Even though she's wrong about me, I think Auntie J's sweet.

Actually fuck the EE wagon looks all town to me.

This would be a sign your reads are off.

If I took another look at the wagon composition at its peak, I could give you a better opinion, though my stance on players key to it such as Gammy and Elly is all sorts of waffles.

[Aunt Jemina]

Elly is facing the flame and is sweating most profusely. Spitflop, like everyone else, is knowing this is just so. Spitflop is taking the opportunity to derail any attention from Elly onto Celty.

I refuse to consider any scenario in which Spiffyloppy is sour, sorry.

Regardless of your alignment, you are therefore wrong. The question is whether this is you as a sweet player with an honest albeit inaccurate view, or scum who thinks pressing this is a good idea.

I have yet to form a definitive conclusion.

Sometimes the method in which Elyse posts reminds me so heavily of YCBA III where she was scum, but then other times there are fantastic posts which convince me she's town. As well as that, I like everything she's saying. I find it unlikely that she is bussing, so either she's town or she's scum and my reads are completely off as well.

This is promising for you, deary. Your prior posting was not leaving an impression on me either way, but this looks sweet.

[Aunt Jemina]

Hello, dearies. I am exhausted from my old age combined with vigorous night life activities, thus, I cannot catch up on nearly 30 pages overnight. I am to this point:

Your "case" on me was based entirely on an FoS, which I explained and changed to a real vote once that other game ended. Why has your read not changed when you no longer have a case?

Because, deary. Your explanation might be reason enough for you to claim the case is invalid, but I hold onto my belief you are sour anyway: your reason felt weak, and your content since then has done nothing to impress me.

Aunt Jemina

, Do you have any guesses who the Scum are on each wagon?

I would need a refresher on the composition of the wagons, since this old lady's memory is not what it used to be. However, very easily I could guess if I saw the names before my eyes.

I will leave from here, and return tomorrow when I am able.

[Aunt Jemina]

Wow, that was quite well thought out. I'll drop Elyse for now, I don't have the energy at this moment in time to continue pushing that lynch. And spifflop practically completely clears Klingon. So,
VOTE: spifflop

I wish you were scum, Exxy, bless your heart.

I don't get the Aunt Jemima read there. Doesn't her constant reads mean she is sorting what's going on? She seems to have a good understanding of the gamestate to me.

VOTE: Alchemist21.

[Aunt Jemina]

Overall "seems very focussed on giving reads rather than actually trying to sort out what is going on. null-scum" perfectly describes your play so far. You have waaay to many scumreads in this list to the point of fencesitting. Spifflop wagon is horrible and you need to get off of it, and you are putting too much trust in that one dapper post.

I really like this post from pippy.

I haven't read anything but I see spifflop votes and when I come back tonight those shitty votes better get off Spiff and on Kling. Spiff is the towniest town that ever towned.

Too good to pass up.

Vote: Spifflop

Why would you vote for spifflop instead of Elyse here?

While I understand Grinny's thought process (it is an indicator he is slightly more likely to be sweet, unafraid to have fun), I had this same thought as well, meaning I like this post too.

Lots of resistance too and I haven't seen one person muster a reason why they're so town.

Because they're my mason partner, can't you read?

[Aunt Jemina]

VOTE: Klingoncelt
Your overconfidence is your weakness.

BAD vote

To the contrary: Spiffyloppy wagon is rather obviously a Celty counterwagon, and I do not think it is driven by sweet players.

VOTE: Klingoncelt.

I don't want to help dismantle the wagon, least of all when a player who is obviously town is the counterwagon.

[Aunt Jemina]

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy.

This post makes Gammy sweet.

[Aunt Jemina]

Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.

I can see all of these.
My grappy townread has been revoked, and I still see Dappy as sour, since if he's town, bless his heart, he still wouldn't have learned his lesson.
Alchy is a minor sour-read, and while Celty's not anymore a rock-solid scumread, she's the best I have.

[Aunt Jemina]

Klingon is a CW to both Shiro and EE

Incorrect: Exxy was a counter-wagon to Celty.

[Aunt Jemina]

You guys should all come back to voting grapes. He is the best wagon that had surfaced so far.
@Dapper if it wasn't for how horrible all the other votes on spiff are I would be able to consider your reasons but take a look at the wagon and tell me how that is a town motivated wagon.

Unless anyone is up for an alchemist wagon. That may actually be even better

Shiro is sweet.

[Aunt Jemina]

I played against - and caught, harassed, and secured a lynch - on Elyse-scum in YCBA III. Either she has dramatically stepped up her scumgame, or she's town. There are a few telltale signs - her wondering where I am, for instance, is one of them. Elyse-town is a lot more likely to have that presence of mind.

I like this and your Alchy point a lot.

[Aunt Jemina]

Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...

Oh, one of us is protecting scum and pushing town alright, but it sure isn't this old lady.

[Aunt Jemina]

Do you believe exxy could be scum I presented most of day 1 pushing this. I'd like your opion on my points.

Exxy, bless his heart, is sweet, I am fairly sure. Points against him have done nothing.

I simply wish he was someone I could work with.

AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.

I simply do not see Exxy's posting as sour. There is also the fact that prior to the Spiffyloppy counterwagon to Celty, there was an Exxy counterwagon to Celty. Almost identical names, even. That is as much as I can really say.

[Aunt Jemina]

Since it seems to be impossible to catch up and pay attention to everything, I'd like to ask the following players to summarize the recent events. Passionate Storm, Spifflop, Spider Gwen, Klingonette, Varsoon, DapperStranger. (The list is not random, it's based upon suspected activity and my former reads, including town and scumreads too so that I may remain unbiased.)

Nenny, you break my heart.

(I have nothing productive to add. I think we need that Celty lynch.)

[Aunt Jemina]

Also Anen's catch up was really underwhelming and I expect a lot more from him.
Town: TSO, itlepip, Errant Parabola, Elyse, Passionate Storm, Garmr, Shiro, Extrapolated Eagle, Aunt Jemima, Varsoon
Scum: Klingon, grapes, Alchemist, random
Vig should target these if not the scum reads: inte, PeregrineV, TheWayItEnds, My Other Head Is Scum, I Am Innocent

The only things in here I remotely disagree on are Nenny (sweet) and Parry (Errantparabola; waffle).

Otherwise we are in agreement, however, Dappy was not listed and is in the bottom half for me.

[Aunt Jemina]

Talk to me about this? Going back through votecounts, I can only find one EE wagon at 4 votes, and it seems to contain many of my townreads, and very few of the names on the Spifflop counterwagon.

I could be mistaken. This old lady's memory is not what it used to be. I'd have to check, but do pardon an old lady for spending Christmas with her relatives.

because that kill makes no sense as a vig kill is a good place to start i think.

^What Endy said.

VOTE: Dapper Stranger.

[Aunt Jemina]

Alchemist and Shiro would be great, because sorting them = epic VCA ramifications down the line. Don't expect to live that long.
Nulls Varsoon and PV aren't bad.

Shiro is sweet, Alchy not so much.

I do not remember Grinny's content well enough to be sure, but I seem to recall he was a minor sweet-read. However, Varsy is definitely sweet.

[Aunt Jemina]

Alchemist is someone I'm definitely considering, Shiro. I'll need a while before I decide fully.

If not on Dappy, my vote would in fact be on Alchy.

[Aunt Jemina]

dapper, are u town? i'm not trying to get fooled again like the last ycba

Inty's probably a good bet for sour. This is reminiscent of his play when we were partners back in the first.

[Aunt Jemina]

I feel like, outside of finding the serial killer (who is probably in the townreads, sadly, but we cross that bridge when we come to it), all the scum can be found in Dappy/idgy (randomidget)/inty/grappy/Inny (who has managed to lurk by our radars unnoticed)/Alchy with the extra candidates of Exxy and Mossy (My Other Head Is Scum).
I do realize this may be a large pool, but I will narrow it down later.

Were I to guess at a serial killer, it would be one of Elly/Endy/Gammy/Parry (Errantparabola), as they are all names I see as not being mafia but feel could be sour anyway, but as we should focus on eliminating groupscum and I am certain they are not, I will not lynch in there.

Spidy, Stormy, Varsy, Shiro, Nenny, and TSO are all undeniably sweet beyond all doubt, with Grinny as another sweet-read.

[Aunt Jemina]

[quote="In post 2413, TheWayItEnds]these are both town posts too.[/quote]I lean towards agreeing with you.

I also wish to respect TSO's idgy read, as that would allow me to narrow down the sour pool by a bit.

[Aunt Jemina]

The serial killer also had no kill last night. Grapes was a vig shot.

While I would certainly

hope

that we stopped a serial killer, my personal theory is that we have an odd-night serial killer.

I would be voting for Alchy, but I believe it would be the hammer, and there is much to discuss today.

If we're controlling a night shot - grapes was a great shot. He wasn't scum, but he was definitely going to be lynched soon. Cutting down on lurkers is a great plan - shooting in {inte, IAI, TWIE} is the best shot you can take.

I feel inty/Inny has at least one sour player in it, perhaps two.

I do not think Endy is mafia, but he is possible for being a serial killer.

Then PerV for his sole vote countering the person who started Klingon train.

It is important for you to realize Grinny and I have a tradition in games. Ever since the first YCBA was a scum win, he has voted me every game. Thus, were Grinny sour, it would not be for this. (I do not believe he is.)

[Aunt Jemina]

I would also like to /pre-in.