You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Shiro didn't vote for me during RVS, that means obvious Scum.

VOTE: Shiro

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO TOWNSHIRO!!!!

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Hey guys, I need to read up on whats going on.

HEY ALCHEMIST!!!
Whats up bro?

And Garmr, damn I need to pay more attention in sign ups, so many awesome people in this game and I didn't notice at all lol.
Fail

-FIre

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Titus is town.
Still standing by EP being town after reading more of him. His push on EE looks town (even though EE looks town to me rn)

Titus. Do you think that acting town should be implicit or explicit?

Actually wtf is this question supposed to accomplish?
AJ is town.
Klingon is a FANTASTIC vote gj hiplop <3
TSO sounds fake to me but hiplop said he thinks he's town so I'll let it play out.
Hate Garmr's first post.
itlepip's opening seems rehearsed to me idk I just have a weird gut feeling that he's scum.
Elyse looks town.

Klingon is a great vote she should be wagon thx

~Spiffy

Spiffy is town, discuss.

See what I did there? I pulled a Spiffeh.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

@Extrapolated Eagle, I like the effort your putting into this, but I can gurantee you will get burned out pretty quickly at this if you try to keep that amount for whole game. The game speed for this is much different than a blitz. Its more casual game.

I like you man, don't get burned out.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Damn, didn't see the game started.

I'll get on this tomorrow. I'm going to bed now.

-Vedith

The town head

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip

grapes

(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Shiro

(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon

Aneninen

(2): T S O, Alchemist21

Passionate Storm

(1): Klingoncelt

Aunt Jemina

(1): PeregrineV

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): Garmr

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

Elyse

(1): Extrapolated Eagle

Spifflop

(1): grapes

Not Voting

(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

Klingoncelt is obvious day 1 mislynch bait, like always.
Why are you guys voting here?

Someone on this train has to be opportunistic scum.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Elyse, Passionate Storm, and Aneninen one of those, or multiple.

This could be TItus scum.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

This isn't a negotiation.

Jesus, why do you always tunnel?
It is so annoying no matter your alignment.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy

I would like to hear more on this, EE feels pretty town.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

A side note

Fire and Vedith where are you? 7 posts are not like you two at all.

I am sorry Shiro senpai for disapointing you ;(

I will make more fluff posts so it feels like I have more pressence <3

Sincerly your best best friend,
Firebringer

[My Other Head Is Scum]

This isn't a negotiation.

Jesus, why do you always tunnel?
It is so annoying no matter your alignment.

Cuz I am right.

This fire?

Your read on me?

Gun to my head right now, probably uncompromising town titus.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Gut pinging. Why you don't vote Klingon?

Klingoncelt is always D1 mislynch bait and you know this for a fact.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Honest answer:
I have no strong opinion on Kling yet, but I don't want to lynch due to how she is often mislynched day 1 in games. If we lynch her, I would rather it be when I actually form a strong opinion and preferably not day 12.

So there it is. Kling is off the table for me.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

When Klingon flips scum, I am lynching you next if you make no effort to sort her.

Bring it Titus,

You think me or Vedith are scared of you pushing us?
WE LIVE FOR IT!

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

When Klingon flips scum, I am lynching you next if you make no effort to sort her.

What do you mean by "Sort her"?
You mean defend and give reason to not lynching?

Nice trap attempt there Titus.

I haven't actually read yet so I don't know how I feel on Kling but for the time being I'll take my other heads opinion on it. Plus the fact that you are pushing that we are defending a scum partner here (not the wording, but obvious you are saying that) is what concerns me. Considering you know both me and FB will throw a team mate under the bus.
I've got my eye on you Titus! And when I do read up you are my focus!

Also, no games on my main so I will make this my primary for now.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Shiro is doing the same but more likely scum

Lets talk about this, I always like to think Shiro is scum. Do you have a case? If so can you tell me what post?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Was this Titus or Jeanne? This is important.

It this was Jeanne, it would have been over dramatic. xD

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

TWIE, Mr. Unsociable...

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Day 1 for this game is going so fast I am having a hard time keeping up.
Need to look at vote count.

Then analyze leading wagon, but I don't really have time. So this is 99% a prod dodge, unless vedith has been posting.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

It means that Spifflop and Titus should be looked at, but Dapper and random are still on the table for whiteknighting.

I think you should be on the table for saying "white knighting" people should defend their town reads.

Scum can do it but just that alone isn't proof of being scum.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I never said it was proof of scum, that post was saying that if Kling flips town then Titus and Spifflop are susy, but I don't think Dap and ran are conf town. I never said they were proven scum, just that they should still be on the table for lynches (Ie not off the table).

I don't think anyone is off the table until mod confirmed so still don't really know what purposes of that were, w/e though.

Still not sure what do in this game, not getting any good reads just a lot of wall posts that are annoying to digest and Titus spamming the damn thread so I can't catch up.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

@MOHIS Fire halp me. Your vote is useless where it currently is.

And where exactly would my vote be best placed Shiro?!?!?!?!?!?

Maybe your vote is useless!!

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

So hey guys. I guess Kling was scum and not mislynch bait.
Who would have thunk it.

How are you all doing?

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

I follow the leading wagon, because I am the sheep!!

[My Other Head Is Scum]

All I am hearing "MOHIS IS LURKING THEY MUST BE SCUM"

I can't argue with any of that logic.

I must be scum, if enough people shout it, it must be true.



-Fire
The Scummiest Head.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

You're whining again FB.

Am I not allowed to whine?

SINCE WHEN WAS WHINING BANNED!!

I would like to propose Proposition 35: The legalization of whining.


All in favor?

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

All you're doing is whining.

Go find me scum. The more scum you find, the more you can whine k?

Everyone is scum.

GG, no re.



I will talk to my other head, who clearly doesn't have his head in the game.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

MOHIS is hard town for me.

How am I town for you?

Like I should be Null at best for everyone. I haven't made actual content post or post many thoughts this game.

Where are you getting this?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Jeez, TheWayItEnds that just feels odd.

I don't even think I should be viewed as town at this moment, and I saw my role pm.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Is it just "odd" or is it scum?
Please answer this question.

I would like to hear his reasons before I jump to conclusions.

Cause I don't see how I am a hard town for anyone.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

SHIRO!!!!!

How you doing

Your Best Friend,
Firebringer

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Ugh, I need to be on my main. For this game.

Okay, what exactly am I missing so far.
Why Alchemist?

He is at L-1, and I dont' remember reasons why...

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

*war flashbacks to badass females micro*

I hate reading.

I did a bit of catchup, I am fine with this:

VOTE: Alchemist

Sorry Alch.

Cya all tomorrow, thats all folks, etc.

-Firebringer
The Scummiest Head in Existence.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Waiting for a claim would have been nice

You can yell at me tomorrow if he flips town.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

If Alchemist is town, I request I be policy lynched for lynching without a claim....

That was really horrible in retrospect.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

MOHIS is still hard town btw.

Why?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Hmm.. Does anyone know what happens if a hider targets Town, but a bus driver switches the Town target with a Mafia target? That's seeming like the most likely occurance here.

Doesn't bus drive give you feedback?

Or does it not work like that here...

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Barney was probably scum. :/ he was arguably the antagonist of himym

There was no antagonist in HIMYM.....it was a show about friends and a guy who was a Casanova wannabe.

Not everything is about heroes and villians....mafia is not a good example to demonstrate my point though.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Seriously, if Alch is town I am getting many many shots of vodka.

I shall join you then.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

TSO town
Shiro town
Elyse probably town
Garmr town

EE will depend on who he pushes today

Random errant and inte are good votes same with PV

Why are you still alive.

I was told if you were got to later stages of game and still alive, that means scum.
So....yeah.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I mean, you have been completely wrong about almost everything bar one read. I have had 2-3 scumreads wrong. If anything, you're the one who should be re-analysing your reads, instead of mindlessly ploughing on with the shit reads that appear to have been wrong all game.

But your reads have been dead wrong too....
What?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I feel bad poking holes in your points constantly, but it has to be done. I'm going to encourage you to be specific in why you think your reasoning for random-scum doesn't also encompass {Peregrine, TWIE, IAI, MOHIS, inte}, because right now it does.

This is the laziest pool of players in existence.
Like saying throwing in all players who aren't at the top of posting or something.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I have infiltrated the ranks of the lurkers in order to study them, how they think, how they act. I have gained deep knowledge of the truths the bind all mafia players together. I can see the lines that connect all things.

Also I read their posts and they are town.

This post made my day, 10/10.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

TWIE, I'm still not townreading MOHIS. I feel like this is a read you feel you need to back for your honour or something, and that's fine, but I really can't afford to be wrong about him, so if you can't actually elucidate on why you think he's town, then just say so.

For your honor? LOL?
What? TSO, what the hell are you smoking?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Passionate Storm, the Titus hydra, is conftown.

Where? When did this happen?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

MOHIS!

Unfortunately I have to go to work in a minute, but if you'd like to talk to me about errant TSO and rm, that would be super cool and I'll defs get back to you first thing when I get off.

TSO is TSO, no read from him right now. He is sitting in my Null pile.
Errant is town, but everytime I have thought Errant was town was actually scum, so skeptical town there.
Randommidget I think is town though. Mostly meta reasons on that.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I do have to ask because I'm really bad at figuring this out myself when it concerns me: do you think tso misrepresenting me is honest mistake or intentional? And if latter do you think it's because of pride/dislike of me personally/something that makes him not scummy?

Probably honest mistake.
Miscommunication often happens in games at some point.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

[quote=TSO]Read the game. Try that. Try reading a single page of this game. This event not only happened ages ago, which I hoped you might have read, but was actually discussed very very recently, for a long period of time. Not only have you not read events in the past, you haven't even read events in the present. So, please. Read the game. Go do that.
[/quote]
No, just to spite you.

[quote=TSO]Right on Klingon, pip, Elyse, AJ, SG, PS, Spifflop. Wrong on DS/Alch/grapes. That's a 70% correct rate. That's poor for me. That's not globally poor. I am not sure you have ever had a 70% correct rate as town, for example. I don't really care enough to check.

I am trying to refrain from insulting you here, but it's oh-so-difficult to do when you test my patience with stupid posts like this.
[/quote]
I call complete bullshit on this.

Where are you getting your numbers? Reads are not static things.
Unless you lock in your D1 reads whenever you make them, and you actually do have 70% rate (which I doubt) its bullshit.
[quote=TSO]
I'd rather ask TWIE what the hell he's smoking by having a hard townread on you. Can you suggest why he has that read? I've read your ISO countless times, and I still can't. He has yet to explain it. So the most obvious explanation is the one above.

If you have a good reason for someone to townread you that's not complete and utter rubbish, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, go back to lurking.[/f
Players make guesses all game, you commit Sharpshooter fallacy when you think you are more right about your reads and ignore the ones where you were wrong.

No way you have 70% correct rate. Thats complete BS.
[quote=TSO]
You're fucking useless lurkers. Call yourself what you are. You've had zero useful imput the entire game. Your slot's sole action was to quickhammer town. You didn't help at all d1 when we were busy pushing Klingon, and since then I have forgotten on occasion that you were playing the game.

The only thing that disgusts me more than lurkers is lurkers who don't even fucking admit what they are.
[/quote]
Yeah, I haven't been the most active in this game. I don't think I have ever said I was a beacon for activity. Can you point to somewhere I said I was very active?

What does me admitting I am lurking do for you exactly? Make your read on me more valid?

[quote=TSO]
I'd rather ask TWIE what the hell he's smoking by having a hard townread on you. Can you suggest why he has that read? I've read your ISO countless times, and I still can't. He has yet to explain it. So the most obvious explanation is the one above.

If you have a good reason for someone to townread you that's not complete and utter rubbish, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, go back to lurking.[/quote]
I already questioned him earlier on his town read on me, I don't get it that strongly, its a gut read. I have let it slide. I know I am town, I am still wondering if he is just white knighting me (I hate that phrase) or if he is town and genuinely has a read on me.
Can't answer that at the moment.

[quote=TSO]
Given that I am likely the foremost player you should have a read on, a null read just further proves you aren't reading the game.
I worry that your random read is a waste of time, but I'm prepared to hear it out.[/quote]
Why should I have a solid read on you exactly? I can see both scum and town motivation in some of your posts. I am undecided.
Why should I strong either way?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am not going to even bother fixing that.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Assuming I'm right so far, then all the remaining scum lies within {Errantparabola/Extrapolated Eagle/randomidget/Shiro/inte/I Am Innocent/My Other Head Is Scum} I can find fairly legitimate reasons to scumread anyone in that list - the last three for being useless lurksacks, the other 4 for more varied reasons.

See its posts like this that reads to me as scum.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Don't, I didn't bother reading it either.

Hypocrite.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Wasn't I in your null list? Damn, I need to work on my scumgame. Posting lists of who I think is scum always gets me.

Do you know what null means?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Ah yes, I didn't read your little post that's probably half being useless and half calling me bad because I called you bad, and this somehow equates to you not reading the entire game. What a hypocrite I am.

Way to move the goal post.
You realize the defenses you are doing to defend your cognitive dissonance?

You can't tell someone to read, then not read and not be called out on that shit.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Its really not Shiro, but it doesn't matter.
I don't agree with most people in this game.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

You are comparing one post not read out of spite to you not reading the fucking game at all

Believe it or not, I have read a good portion of the game.
Me saying I haven't read anything is a huge embellishment.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I think this is a big weakness of my towngame - I tend to alienate people from helping me because I get annoyed at them for not playing the way I feel they should.

You might be a town if you are a complete ass?
I guess you are confirmed town then.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

But, if we talk simple numbers here, MOHIS - your hydra has 54 posts, so an average of 27 posts per player. I have 322 posts. I have almost 12 posts for every post one of you have made. I think you should be able to understand how infuriating it is for me to pour myself into this game, and see that level of response.

Thats nice except for your tendency to spam a page without responses.
Granted I do it too, but hey its a good way to inflate post counts.

Can we please get off this debate though? What is arguing about post counts and activity going to get us?
Honestly.

Where is it getting us?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

If nobody can tell, this has been Firebringer posting since basically the whole game.
I think Vedith posted a few times day 1, but I think he is super busy in RL now with his new job.

I haven't talked to him since end of day 1.
You basically can assume I am carrying this slot.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

inte exit looked scummy as fuck, but it crossed over into too scummy to be scum territory also.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am at this point inclinted to believe that

From this pool IaI is the one most likely to be scum.

What exactly is town about Inte?
Like your read seems to slowly rely on activity levels.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well, I guess that makes it a bit better. I admit, inte was a lot worse. 54 posts is a lot better than 27.

PS is conftown because a Hider hid behind her n1 and didn't die. The Hider crumbed it on d1, and was extremely friendly to PS on d2.

Hider was Spider Gwen. We still don't understand how Gwen died - hard to believe as it seems, the most likely thing now appears to be a lack of action.

You know what, I think I read this much earlier, a week or two ago. My memory is getting horrible.
I don't know, I really should keep notes on games.
My life has been hectic recently so its hard to keep track of everything in these games I am in.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

@Fire remember warcraft 3 mafia ? He was the exact same lurking scummy person.

I just remember getting lynched as a Survivor. I didn't follow the game after I got lynched.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Inte is a giant slot of null. Activity isn't really a tell - he's only played 3/4 games in a year, including this one. They were all town, and he lurked in 3/4 of them. He doesn't seem to have a history of replacing out tactically.

I am really not reading him as scum for his activity, I thought his exit of the game was scummy. And not in the way of him just replacing out because it would be "tactical"

BTW I thought that was punishable offense?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am Innocent is usually much more active in games. Meta wise thats a change in playstyle. Don't know if it means scum though.
Also he is still active site wide so its not like he is just busy in RL.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well, I began to ask for a modkill on inte a while back. I hoped he'd either be replaced or modkilled. As it happened, he replaced out. I am not sure whether it was a genuine replace-out (probably town) or whether he was worried his slot would be modkilled (scum).

Has a scum ever been modkilled for lack of activity?
I have never heard of that.

My homesite they never modkill scum for being lurksacks.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am Innocent is usually much more active in games. Meta wise thats a change in playstyle. Don't know if it means scum though.
Also he is still active site wide so its not like he is just busy in RL.

I think I am embellishing, he was pretty inactive in a large I played recently.
I don't know if he is active site wide either.
>.>

[My Other Head Is Scum]

That helps

If he wanted to be helpful, he would have posted a video of Harrison Ford instead.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

ht r

Garmr, buddy.
Lets talk.

how you been lately?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

If Random is scum, lynch the fuck out of Shiro tomorrow.

How can you want to lynch Shiro, when Shiro posts stuff like this?

HOW!?!?!?!?!?!?

Too adorable.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: Eagle

Sheeping cuz conftown lols.

I will lead when my confidence returns.

Your confidence can wane?

WHAT!?!?!?!?
#DoesNotCompute

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I just want to say, I don't support a Eagle waggon.
I truly think he is town.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

more "consistency" from eagle

Since when is consistency a good thing? Thats what I am getting from this post.

Consistency usually indicates tunneling. I can consistently say Errant is scum! It really doesn't mean much.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Consistency and transparency usually means town.

Transparency is one thing. I think that is normally town read.

But Consistency can be just tunneling. Tunneling doesn't = Town.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Uh, oops.
That was me being sarcastic.
Also fire i know that you think that you thinking im town means im scum.
But what about jeanne's game? Did you scumread me there?

I was scum in that game,

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I also oppose the eagle lynch.

I want to support it just because you oppose it.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Oh shit. You were.
Also, go for it.
Also, where's vedith? Miss that guy.

Vedith is dead.

He clearly wasn't scummy enough to belong to this hydra.

I miss him too though
He is one of few players I really loved playing with, no offense to anyone here.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Since a MOHIS lynch unfortunately seems to not be happening, I would be fine with VOTE: random

Sorry Errant, I want to get lynched to ;(

[My Other Head Is Scum]

there is literally nothing in SG's iso that remotely indicates either of these hides.

Not all players crumb their actions though.
Like I don't. Ever.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

So, we now know, almost for certain, that one of EE and random is scum. Does that seem familiar to me?

EE scumflip likely clears Aneninen, for one person.

So which one is a better lynch?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

@lurkers

Pick a wagon

Sure thing:
VOTE: Randommidget

Back to lurking.

I don't want to lynch either of Eagle or TSO today, I heavily think they are just doing a TvT right now.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am starting to think I might as well just replace in as my main for this game. Considering things.

I really don't see EE or T S O as scum, and them fighting is a TvT, I don't know who is scum though, so I don't have a good alternative to either, Random was good enough cause I had him as null.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

im a cop.

i have innocents on
mohis
errant
varsoon

This explains so much on why you have been townreading me.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I have reservations on this lynch considering its so lazy and has a high chance of blowing up in our faces and losing town the game.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I really didn't think AI was going to flip scum, it seemed like a low hanging fruit thing.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Peregine kind of seems the same *facepalm*
Anyone want to talk?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I meant I am innocent.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

But I Am Innocent did flip scum. What's the point you're trying to make here?

That I didn't think it was going to be scum.....
>.>

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Okay.
He is at L-2 right now. Not putting him at L-1 for awhile.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I think everyone is just less motivated to play...I could be wrong.
I hate to use activity to indicate anything.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am Harry Potter, the VT.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: Garmr
Sorry bud.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Not much to weigh in right now, I think it is Anen.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: Anen

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I was scum godfather.
GG.

Cool.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Why do you think I was playing to catch an investigate, but then coast off of that?

I don't think too much. TSO is probably shouting in the grave, you were least likely lynched with that cop clear though.

I probably was more on chopping block than you.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Can't say I liked this setup.