You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Dapper Stranger]

I don't believe either of us have checked in yet.

So hi game!

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

This one...

You going to ignore my obvious cries for attention, Varsoon?

is much...

Old friends, or...?

See: Secret Alt Mafia 2
I like you. Vote someone.

Meanwhile...

Unvote
Vote Errantevilmustache

and more...

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Varsoon's town.

Why?

It's how he reacted to my vote and the votes that followed. Varsoon as scum would be trying to take control of the game in some manner. He didn't. He actually seemed a bit confused and lost. That points to him being town.

Also why did you feel it was necessary to change your vote three times on page 1?

Is something going to happen if I change my vote too many times? Is the thread going to explode?

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@Eagle: Why is Elyse not a town read for you?

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Feeling good overall on my Titus read. She should be putting in more effort if town. Her switching to attack mode is not a good sign.

concerned with...

EP what are your some of your thoughts outside of EE?

~Spiffy

I can definitely follow and agree with what most of what Gwen is saying outside of the Titus read and the Garmr trying to interact with Gwen being town points.
So for that, Gwen is town.

Don't understand the townreads on AJ.

209 don't understand if this is legitimate misunderstanding or just a deflection. I'm leaning towards the latter.
That being said I don't think 172 seems rehearsed and although I am slightly uncomfortable with how spifflop says it is (172 seemed like a post that someone who wanted to push a mislynch would say is rehearsed), the lop part is acting pretty towny.

I do not like 203. VOTE: itlepip
Disregarding whether or not 172 is genuine

Interesting that you point out the buddying towards AJ, yet your vote doesn't go towards any player buddying her. And you vote itle for post 203? That's weaker than weak sauce.

Your play feels very careful and contrived. Awaiting spiffehs meta on you, but in the meantime

vote: Extrapolated Eagle

You think Errant is scum, but you go for Eagle instead? That doesn't add up.

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@Spider Gwen
Someone who changes their vote three times on page 1 seems nervous and jittery to me and considering your join date I thought maybe you could be newbscum. But I don't think that anymore.

What about those votes looked nervous or jittery to you? I thought they were anything but.

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But be warned, my lady, for if the storm belongs, then you do not.

I particularly like this post:

i wonder if 5-6 people scumreading klingon for making a bold fos means anything

Why do you like it? I find it to be scummy.

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randomidget is scum.
Discuss.

~Spiffy

I'm thinking you're right.

how she is looking than is natural.

Vallarta morghulis

VOTE: SpiderGwen

[Dapper Stranger]

Effin auto correct

[Dapper Stranger]

A man is no one.

[Dapper Stranger]

Stranger's posts have a "look everyone! I'm busy!" quality to them. I also don't think the Jaquen head would approach a scum read in that manner.

A man isn't busy but is finding Battlefront of much and more interest than this. That is having nothing to do with scum reading this one. Gwen is scum and anyone touching a wagon that one is helping to champion is pushing a mislynch.

[Dapper Stranger]

VOTE: Spider Gwen

That doesn't look like RVS. Why?

explain this?

It doesn't look like RVS to me....not really much to explain there.

~Titus

I feel like scumTitus is much more cautious (read lurking) than making this sort of honestly out there post. Like the justification sucks so it feels like genuine gut which is towny.

Pedit: please...

Then this one is best served in waiting for one who is knowing how to read Titus sort that one. These things Titus is doing as either alignment

[Dapper Stranger]

I was planning to give you the book titled How to Make out Plenty of Things out of Nothing for Christmas, but I think you already have that one.

A man is reading that one is currently in plagiarism litigation against that author and as such isn't having the liberty to comment.

[Dapper Stranger]

AJ- a man would like your take on Alchemist with supporting reasons please

[Dapper Stranger]

Dappy

may

also be sour.

Only when a man isn't bathing for a few days...

[Dapper Stranger]

And the other head of the hydra doesn't really play weekends because of a life so I always fall behind ridiculous pages in these games.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Dappy

may

also be sour.

I was planning to give you the book titled How to Make out Plenty of Things out of Nothing for Christmas, but I think you already have that one.

A man is reading that one is currently in plagiarism litigation against that author and as such isn't having the liberty to comment.

VOTE: Dapper, you are 400 posts into rereading the game and the posts you take are my read on Titus without a real refutation and whatever this is trying to say.

A man is having nothing to refute, but this is amusing.

A man is still liking your response AJ. There is a specific answer for which he is seeking based on you and a man's familiarity with your buttons.

[Dapper Stranger]

I'm surprised TSO isn't a presence

Why? That one is rarely having a presence D1.

[Dapper Stranger]

How soon can this become a full list?

By the end of Day 1. Maybe sooner. I'm not in so many games right now, so, over the next 7-10 R/L days probably. Two or three at a time.

Ok, thank you.
@Passionate Storm & Elyse

Sorry for responding the way I did. I hate it when my questions get answered or responded to by someone other than the intended target.

I think Passionate Storm is likely town, now, though I'm skeptical of the play there and I'm curious as to why she joins wagons with her scum reads on them.

Yes, this means I think it's likely that spidergwen is scum. Reads coming shortly, hopefully.

The odds of getting an all town wagon d1 are abysmal. I have managed the feat for awhile but it's not common. Voting scumreads is a priority. Now if only scum were on the wagon, that'd be an issue. Let scum bus if they play anti-scum.

A man is hearing this from someone yestermonths ago by it seems. And is catching much hell from this one for saying so. Why the change of heart?

[Dapper Stranger]

@dapper, how do you feel about sharing reads?

A man is always completely forthcoming in the past, but much and more is thinking this may not be wise. When every read is public, it is giving weaknesses scum are capitalizing on.

A man is explaining how this is just so. If a man is saying persons A, B, C, and D are scum and is wrong on B and D then it is providing common ground for persons A and C to share with the other two. Persons B and D, knowing they are falsely accused, are then susceptible to unwittingly playing for scum and a man's correct conclusions are thrown out as well.

No, one at a time unless a man is nearing death.

A man is intrigued with this one's Web of Suspicion, and would suggest keeping track of who is initiating each action will be much and more helpful. If a man is having a copper to spare, he is wagering the blue lines will be of more importance.

[Dapper Stranger]

I think Eagle's push/non-vote is out of site-newbieness (reminds me of myself). Don't really want to hang him for that.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

I'm surprised TSO isn't a presence

Why? That one is rarely having a presence D1.

I thought I remember him being a presence D1 of the last game.


But there's a warm spot for you on the Kling wagon which also has a very good chance of flipping scum if you want it.

Nah. That one is turning on his jets around D3 or a man be gobbling him up early that game.

Not feeling the Klingon wagon.

[Dapper Stranger]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip

grapes

(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Shiro

(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon

Aneninen

(2): T S O, Alchemist21

Passionate Storm

(1): Klingoncelt

Aunt Jemina

(1): PeregrineV

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): Garmr

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

Elyse

(1): Extrapolated Eagle

Spifflop

(1): grapes

Not Voting

(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

what is wrong with everyone in this game more need to vote ee.

A man is learning that when he is alone in a large group, most often it's because his judgement is flawed.

[Dapper Stranger]

A man is having no read there

Of one?

She's scum

[Dapper Stranger]

Okay, I trust you. So, are you saying that Elyse shouldn't be Clotild?

No. Of course not.
I feel the good in you. You will take me.
I can't go on alone.

A man is thinking we get it already Luke...

[Dapper Stranger]

Okay, I trust you. So, are you saying that Elyse shouldn't be Clotild?

No. Of course not.
I feel the good in you. You will take me.
I can't go on alone.

Sounds sorta Luke Skywalker-ish.

Heh

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

A man is wondering why a lady is deflecting from a wagon that many and more believe could be scum?

[Dapper Stranger]

@itlepip I will respond to your argument for Klingon if you respond to my argument for Elyse. Otherwise there's very little point in trying to discuss this with me

I think Elyse is scummy, but in your little review post you omitted 273 where her points seem a lot better than yours. Especially about whiteknighting and some misrepping that happened.

A man is seeing over and again that scum are often making better points than town. Especially when nothing is known.

[Dapper Stranger]

I don't know what that means

It means what it is saying Elyse, but a man will interpret so his question isn't so easily dodged...


Why are you working to deflect from a wagon that several have voted because they find her scummy and about twice as many have expressed that they see some scummotivation there onto another wagon? I mean, EE is most likely noob town and Celt's wagon has at least two names on it which leave a bad taste in my mouth. So why are you trying to nudge people off someone with a decent shot at being scum and onto something that looks very much like mislynch bait- when the person you're trying to bounce votes off isn't even you?

[Dapper Stranger]

It is sounding that way to a man when he is reading it, but is now at least understanding your point.

[Dapper Stranger]

This head of the hydra is still behind in pages but is happy with our Gwen vote and doesn't have good feelings about Garmr either. I owe Garmr a question answer though and need to find it so I can answer it.

[Dapper Stranger]

EE interrupting has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening. There's no such thing as interrupting in a forum mafia game. Nothing anyone else posts should prevent someone from saying something.

~Spiffy

A man wonders...this-purposeful antagonism or blatant buddying?

[Dapper Stranger]

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

Aunt Jemina - C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she?.

A man is keeping in his normal chat racier so he is t forgetting to sign. He is finding this somehow simpler. Fresh is speaking as he speaks. That one's absence is because of the three r's.

2 of 3 YCBA's are disagreeing with your AJ fallacy, though that is bearing no weight.

[Dapper Stranger]

Titus we should using targeted nagging methods to get people to vote for Klingon.

That is how confident I am.

~Spiffy

FUCK

A man is lacking the the comfort with Spitflop's intentions here to sheep this.

[Dapper Stranger]

P-edit: Ahhh. The long awaited half reads list full of blanket statements and a grand total of FOUR stances, two of which are only leans.

Some reads are leans. Since when has that been a cardinal sin?

I'm about to start on the next leg of reads, going through Eagle's walls will be a fukkin' nightmare.

Pity me.

A man shares no pity for a slacker. Many and more have read and analyzed as they are happening (or somewhere there about). Why ask favor for doing what all else have already done?

[Dapper Stranger]

Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy

His refusal to indicate who is townreading Klingon made me suspect as well but I may have Jeanne talk to EE in a bit.

Jeanne and I both agree Klingon is scum but Jeanne has suspicions of Elyse. So her talking to EE may be more effective.

Spitflop buddying an under pressure Elyse is likely making the former scum and the latter town.

[Dapper Stranger]

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

Aunt Jemina - C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she?.

A man is keeping in his normal chat racier so he is t forgetting to sign. He is finding this somehow simpler. Fresh is speaking as he speaks. That one's absence is because of the three r's.

2 of 3 YCBA's are disagreeing with your AJ fallacy, though that is bearing no weight.

I wrote that, not Spifflop.

Yes but a man is lazing in bed as naked as Gid made him and lacks the desire to wrap himself to go to the computer room, so he is effing up that quote tag. Fixed I think ftmp.

[Dapper Stranger]

P-edit: Ahhh. The long awaited half reads list full of blanket statements and a grand total of FOUR stances, two of which are only leans.

Some reads are leans. Since when has that been a cardinal sin?

I'm about to start on the next leg of reads, going through Eagle's walls will be a fukkin' nightmare.

Pity me.

A man shares no pity for a slacker. Many and more have read and analyzed as they are happening (or somewhere there about). Why ask favor for doing what all else have already done?

A man has no sense of humor.

A girl has no honor! A man is laughing as he is writing this torrid admonition!

[Dapper Stranger]

Oh, and...

*God

If a man is correcting simple typos of little import, this one isn't being left unfixed.

[Dapper Stranger]

Since the Lady of Syrup is a bit soured on a man, then she should be seeing she can at least weigh a man's thoughts evenly given the nature of her reads as compared to reality of a man's alignment...if not then with a bit of humor look at this abstract:

Given: a man is town, thus his actions are flowing accordingly


SCENARIO

Elly is facing the flame and is sweating most profusely.

Spitflop, like everyone else, is knowing this is just so.

Spitflop is taking the opportunity to derail any attention from Elly onto Celty.


HYPOTHESIS

This is pinging opportunistic in a man's mind.

If Lord Spit's scum, he's hoping Elly will swallow and they are becoming the best of buddies even though if this as well is just so, Celty is likely mislynch material. If a man is building a sufficiently clear case of early game scummotivation, then a Spifflop lynch today is superior to either lady because if Spit flipping scum reasonably town clears both.

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If you are following that LOGIC (disregarding your personal reads, just the logic), would you agree proving Spitflop scum is clearing Celty in whole and soft clearing Elly at the same time? If so and if a man is just so in his evaluation will a lady work with a man for a day?

[Dapper Stranger]

A man is looking for AJ's thoughts in particular but what is this one's take?

[Dapper Stranger]

I'm only quoting the top part of the vote count...

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(7): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Varsoon

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Passionate Storm

(2): Klingoncelt, Spider Gwen

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

I lean town on Stormy. Two players voting that slot are one of our top scumreads and the biggest wagon...

Time to reflect.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Sometimes the method in which Elyse posts reminds me so heavily of YCBA III where she was scum, but then other times there are fantastic posts which convince me she's town. As well as that, I like everything she's saying. I find it unlikely that she is bussing, so either she's town or she's scum and my reads are completely off as well.

I cannot remember the last time my reads were completely off, so I'm going to assume it's not the case here either.

A man is remembering YCBA3 until late game.

[Dapper Stranger]

Another logic suggests that a man is trying to save one of those ladies.
Meanwhile intuition wants to Clotild.

A man is bashing his head in his hand wondering how this on is misinterpreting that a man is believing both ladies town and is explicitly trying to save both.

[Dapper Stranger]

A man isn't saying that TSO. If you're coming with that hostility as a start, just don't come. A man is saying he's not having one read weighed against another this time around and is sticking to it.

[Dapper Stranger]

Elly is facing the flame and is sweating most profusely. Spitflop, like everyone else, is knowing this is just so. Spitflop is taking the opportunity to derail any attention from Elly onto Celty.

I refuse to consider any scenario in which Spiffyloppy is sour, sorry.

Regardless of your alignment, you are therefore wrong. The question is whether this is you as a sweet player with an honest albeit inaccurate view, or scum who thinks pressing this is a good idea.

I have yet to form a definitive conclusion.

Sometimes the method in which Elyse posts reminds me so heavily of YCBA III where she was scum, but then other times there are fantastic posts which convince me she's town. As well as that, I like everything she's saying. I find it unlikely that she is bussing, so either she's town or she's scum and my reads are completely off as well.

This is promising for you, deary. Your prior posting was not leaving an impression on me either way, but this looks sweet.

Unless a lady is masons with or a day cop who is investigating that one already you are either closing doors which should be left open or are scum with. Spifflop's ISO is chopped full of evidence of their scummitude.

[Dapper Stranger]

I'm saddened for your loss Hipplop and a bit disturbed that at this point I have to show where I'm coming from it your slot in order to answer Anen's question and to follow up with AJ.

[Dapper Stranger]

Spitflop's ISO, if one is investigating, is full of these kinds of posts where that one is assigning reads with no substance. This is sounding to a man as having come from an informed perspective.

From this page alone EP is town.
Way more willing to engage than in a previous game I've played with him where he was scum.

Elyse is town I'm pretty damn sure of it.

I don't think ScumEagle is something I'm comfortable with yet. Dude appears pretty damn confortabe/not squirmy.

KlingonKelt is the one piquing me as most scummy right now. His strange FoS in the middle of RvS comes off as clumsy and weird. From what I've seen of kling, shes a really strong town player but is just really awkward as scum. For that reason, VOTE: klingonkelt

A man is giving but a few examples. Two of these reads- the ones on Elyse and Klingon- a man is finding of utmost importance. He sees no reason in making a long post longer. This last quote is also the meat of his argument against Spiff. That one is making a snap read on someotne solely because they aren't falling in line with everyone else with Stupid Voting Sequence. A man is opening with a question at large when he is making the start of a game (which isn't happening this time) and knows, just so, this isn't telling anything of one's alignment. Neither is Klingon's venture from the common path.

Once he is seeing some agreement amongst others he is sticking with that one as his intended target because he is knowing it to have traction. From there, he is with AN AGENDA of finding the "scum" in Klingon, twisting some things she is saying in an effort to keep interest. Keep in mind, his initial "scum read" is still coming from the flakiness of reasons (capitalizing on the human condition of being resistant to change or anything different, kinda like how at work or school most people are put off by having to learn a "new way of doing things") as the basis for his read. With a preconceived notion, a man is noting it is easy to find evidence to support an opinion. A man is doing this much and more, and getting away with even more than he should have been able to, as scum in his last game.

This alone isn't causing a man's scum read on Spit.

That's where post like this exchange are coming in

Titus, how are you perceiving that whole elyse/garmr exchange? I feel like garmr looks REALLY fucking town there, elyse not so much.

From what I remember from Elyse, she isn't TOO hard to catch out as scum. Interested in your thoughts, hun

elyse I haven't been clear I still think you're town. Titus mentioned the fight you were involved in so I went back

you went from "pretty damn town" -> "probably town"

pedit: yes, that too

At the time of the first post Elyse was feeling a bit of hate and this one is abruptly calling the Garmr/Elyse match TvS with Garmr looking very town and Elyse not so much. When all is being quickly explained and it is obvious opinion is swinging against Elyse, Spiff is going back to 'nah girl! You're town just not uber town' as an out on what's evidence of his first slip. A man is naming it such because it is showing his eagerness to lynch

someone

. That kind of excitement a man isn't seeing from early D1 town because they aren't having the knowledge needed to form an opinion truly one way or the other.

But, for the while Klingon is getting a bit of a reprieve from as much suspicion this one is making himself to be fully into his cups with how he wanting squished Grapes:

Klingon is like a slam dunk for scum.

~Spiffy

on that note, wanna go for grapes spidey?

That one is also doing a fair amount of schmoozing. First with Aunt Jemina (whose ego everyone know she is liking stroked) with his over the top "my friendly maple syrup mama" town assignment to his "girl power" post and then acting as if he's captivated by the secret alt which is Spider Gwen (who cares, not relevant to the game). This schmoozing is giving this one a free pass as he is saying those things he thinks people want to hear. Instead of ardently figuring out who is or isn't scum.

And then, finally, a man is presenting this

Klingon is like a slam dunk for scum.

~Spiffy

Umm, no. Nothing to town is a slam dunk 426 posts into a large theme game. A man is knowing this to be just so, just as he is knowing both Spiffheads are feeling the same way as town with the hesitance D1 in recently finished games with the both which neither are exercising here. The only way Klingon is a slam dunk for scum at this point is if scum are feeling pretty sure they are causing the mislynch of a strong player the first day which is high on their priority for night kills.

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With all this in mind, Anen, a man's perspective on both Celt and Elyse is coming not from their posts, but rather Spifflop. That one's stance on Elyse is town quickly to Elyse is scum when that is briefly popular and then quickly back to Elyse is town again is showing she can't be scum with Spifflop because she's easily being discarded with little provocation.

Likewise Spifflop's play which is causing a man's scum read is making it impossible to consider Klingon may be scum as scum aren't throwing away a scummate because they FoS'd in RVS.

His interactions with Gwen are giving a man pause there as well as he isn't putting together how those are scum together. A man also hasn't put much effort into that as yet but is seeing if such ties exist later on. For now

VOTE: Spifflop

[Dapper Stranger]

Passionate Storm - seems as obnoxious as usual. null-town
Garmr - hasn't particularly pinged for me, will re-read
I Am Innocent - didn't notice they were in the game
inte - same as above
PeregrineV - had a null-town earlier but can't remember why
Dapper Stranger - town, I'm liking their logic and their scumreads. Town [

their scum read is that if you assume spifflop is scum elyse and kling are town, so therefore spiff is scum

Klingoncelt - I like the fact that they are sticking to their guns and aren't trying to convince people to townread them, they are trying to do their job. Town

Give me 1 single post where klingon actually does something to move town forward. She hasn't pushed anyone at all this game, nor has she defended herself. How is not defending yourself town if you aren't going to scumhunt? The whole point of voting is because the reactions people give when pressured can be used to form reads.

Spider Gwen - ignored me then made a bad vote on passionate storm. Scum

If ignoring a post was alignment indicative in this game everyone would be scum.

Aunt Jemina - seems very focussed on giving reads rather than actually trying to sort out what is going on. null-scum

So like this readlist? AJ has made some good points so I disagree.

TheWayItEnds - barely registered they were in the game.
T S O - like what I've seen, town
Shiro - hasn't pinged, will reread
My Other Head Is Scum - I can't read fire, if vedith becomes more active will be able to give something on them.
Alchemist21 - I like alch and want them to be town. town

I'd say this is shit but it seems the most genuine comment in this whole readlist.

Extrapolated Eagle - EE's posts have been mixed for me, bit I'm scumreading his pushers and there fore null-town

Holy shit the person who has posted the most is being read by your opinion of his pushers?

itlepip - when I said I was scumreading them earlier I meant spifflop. My bad. They haven't really registered so I'll put them at null
Aneninen - a mysterious man full of mysterious mystery. Null
Errantparabola - I disliked his early pushes on EE, but since then has been decent. Null

why is pushing someone scummy if that person is being null read?

Elyse - dislike fence sitty blehness. Scum

This one I agree with

grapes - hasn't pinged that much but seems to have posted a decent amount. Null-scum
Spifflop - dapper's reasoning basically. He made some good points. Scum

Dapper's reasoning was that if you assume spifflop is scum, he is scum... Just because you can invent a world where someone is scum doesn't make it scum. I could probably come up with a case against anyone in this game, but Spifflop has made some of the best posts this game so far

Varsoon - a mysterious man full of mysterious mystery. Null

Overall " seems very focussed on giving reads rather than actually trying to sort out what is going on. null-scum" perfectly describes your play so far. You have waaay to many scumreads in this list to the point of fencesitting. Spifflop wagon is horrible and you need to get off of it, and you are putting too much trust in that one dapper post.

Misrepping a man why?

[Dapper Stranger]

Yes, but when is a Storm catching Klingoncelt performing that poorly? We are all having our bad games, but that one is pretty solid.

[Dapper Stranger]

And exactly how much weight is a lady giving 'scum cuz FoS when yeh should be RVS'? A man is RQS starting games- when is that a scum tell? Same thing, and a man is finding it extremely weak sauce.

[Dapper Stranger]

And, when is a lady seeing either head of Spifflop be so endearing?

[Dapper Stranger]

itlepipsqueak- "He called me 100% scum in a game for making a joke post and

then saying that scumreading me because of a joke post was dumb

"

And this one isn't seeing the difference here...

And a man isn't needing to find posts which are making either of Klingon or Elyse town. Spitflop's flipping scum is doing that all on its own. Lynching him today, if he is flipping scum, is also giving two town clears. A man is showing ample reason for Spiff being scum here, which is what matters since that's where a man is voting. Elyse town and Kling town are but a benefit if Spiff is indeed flipping scum. Don't try to muddle shit again.

[Dapper Stranger]

A man is finding that the beauty of hydras Titus- the other head is here and is fully capable of defending himself.

[Dapper Stranger]

A man is reminding Titus that Spitflop's is being mostly Spiffeh. Hipplop's circumstance isn't keeping that one from carrying on.

[Dapper Stranger]

5/101 posts

[Dapper Stranger]

He TWIE. Cast a vote for Spifflop while you're around.

[Dapper Stranger]

5/101 posts

Well there is a lot of Spiffeh filler.

Also the count is 0/75 for klingon right now.

The a man is suggesting you find 5 posts from Klingon which contain scummotivation (hint-that isn't something you simply disagree with. It's something that shows an agenda).

[Dapper Stranger]

Its not an easy counter wagon if you truly think he's scum.

Personal circumstances outside the game should have no effect whatsoever on who you should vote for. That post by Storm I dislike greatly.

Vote who you think is scum. Which we agreed is the slot. End of story.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Please don't take that as insensitive. I'm generally very blunt because of my job. I've been lynched while at a baseball game just because I wasn't around to defend myself.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Itlepip

One FoSing in RVS isn't a scum tell. It's just different from the mindless sheep dance of RVS.

Fast moving wagons usually are scum lead. That one is presenting a flat fact. Is this one actually expecting a townie being speed lynched to sit idle and say nothing?

Aan is also naming Varsoon Luke and is yet facing no scrutiny. The simple fact Celt is being singled out there is showing an agenda attacking her more so than anything else.

The other posts are naught but Klingon under pressure. She is pretty much sucking D1 as town and coming on strong late game. Which is why that one is a slam dunk for scum.

[Dapper Stranger]

The argument that randomidget had too many scum reads is crap. And it's funny to note how hard the leaders of the Klingon wagon defend spifflop. To the point of making shitty posts like the one I quoted above.

Yes, the only case against Spiff assumes Kling is town, so of course we are not going to believe it. I

No it doesn't
Read it again. It proves Klingon is town if he flips scum. But saying it assumes Klingon is town is like saying that me being scum assumes Elyse is town

The whole argument is that Spiffeh is trying to pocket Elyse by moving the wagon to Klingon. Unless you are trying to say that scum would rather bus a partner (who is being townread by everyone on the spiffeh wagon) in order to potentially pocket a town member the whole case is shod if Klingon is town. Because I am certain that Klingong is scum and independently I have been reading Spifflop as town this wagon is a huge no go for me.

No- the while argument shows an agenda perpetrated by Spifflop to lynch a player who gets better as the game goes on. That's not a town mindset. I'm only assuming those ladies town when Spiff is flipping scum. Stop effing putting words in my mouth.

[Dapper Stranger]

With how often that one is mislynched D1 (rivaled only by Titus's own ability to be mislynches D1), a man would find that to be a rather inconvenient meta if he were Celt.

[Dapper Stranger]

Dapper may not be town.

The last two games Klingon was scum, she had this issue. Both times she killed me before I could push her.

And pigs may fly from a man's ass as well but it's about as likely.

And you are having the exact same problem in your last game (albeit you are narrowly escaping the D1 lynch to find it D2). Is that making all those times this one is being misread and mislynched D1 invalid? Just because of the once this one was correctly called scum for the wrong reasons (because they were wrong reasons; a man is right there with you as its happening as you will remember). Nah, right now Celt is null, Spifflop is having a better than average chance of flipping scum as the evidence of that ones agenda within his posting suggests, and if he is flipping scum then gives two fairly solid town outside scum doing some very risky maneuvering (or multiball) on D1. If this one is truly going to ignore the evidence, as a legal professional who does this shit for a living, and throw out a lynch candidate which is giving the town so much of a jump start on the game simply because that one is buttering Titus's butt then a man is finding it hard to believe her town because he is t finding this one so weak a player as to fall for such dribble.

[Dapper Stranger]

A man isn't talking about something ongoing. A man is speaking of Trouser Gods.

[Dapper Stranger]

Titus, how are you perceiving that whole elyse/garmr exchange? I feel like garmr looks REALLY fucking town there, elyse not so much.

From what I remember from Elyse, she isn't TOO hard to catch out as scum. Interested in your thoughts, hun

And this is where those are buttering your butt HERE.

[Dapper Stranger]

Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

[Dapper Stranger]

That a lady is correctly read in one game isn't justifying all the games where the same is mislynched early because scum fear town Titus and town refuse to see town Titus has a bad early game. That same phenomenon is applying to Celt and a man believes it's happening here. A man is disappointed if this one is town and not able to see the same thing another she is bemoaning usually happens to her.

[Dapper Stranger]

And it isn't changing the fact that Spirflop is spearheading this witch hunt on Celt. Based solely on a random FoS (which is ironically a reach out to Titus as they are sharing similar fates historically) and then reaching to find evidence to specifically support the original notion. Which makes it fruit of the poisonous tree. Evidence leads to conclusion, not the other way around. Which is brought us back to this one's job. A lady, for a living, must realize when the authority is approaching a case from an angle such as this in order to get her clients off and she really SHOULD be seeing it here.

[Dapper Stranger]

What do you do for a living, dapper?

A man is doing many things and learning skills across a full spectrum of people management, construction design, IT, assembly, and business organization. Just now a man is litterally reinventing the wheel.

[Dapper Stranger]

Titus is a defense attorney. Often, cops will have a forgone conclusion based on either the suspect or their own ineptitude and laziness and they search for evidence which specifically supports their bias, instead of finding evidence and following it to where it goes. In a very real way Titus has to recognize this irl in order to either establish reasonable doubt or have the evidence thrown out to properly serve her clients and keep a successful business. That she's acting like she can't see that here when it's something she does for a living is highly suspect.

[Dapper Stranger]

VOTE: Klingoncelt
Your overconfidence is your weakness.

BAD vote

[Dapper Stranger]

It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

[Dapper Stranger]

VOTE: Klingoncelt
Your overconfidence is your weakness.

BAD vote

Explain.

The basis of the original notion is as weighty as air. The wagon is pushed due to the pusher's popularity and schmoozing instead of anything relevant. This wagon is scum driven. A man is making a largeish post detailing exactly how this wagon is forming from Spitflop's accusation due to a random FoS, to that one's gaining favor with other players through compliments, ego stroking, and buddying. The case isn't holding water.

[Dapper Stranger]

It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

I feel like RL stuff should be off limits in terms of analysis just for the fun of the game.

When it's a relevant skill one possesses it isn't mattering where the skill is originating. That it's not being used is suspect as hell. It's relevant here and will be used.

[Dapper Stranger]

Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy. Eagle is scummy as hell and I want to choke the people who right him off as a village idiot and the case that has been pushed against him is something I don't agree with because town tend to not be as coherent as scum and the case is based on coherency.

Look at Celt's meta again. She is sucking D1 usually as either alignment. A man isn't saying at this point she can't be scum, just that her suck here isn't a good reason to lynch her.

As far as coherency, a man can only assume this one is speaking of him as its a man who is presenting a case. When has this one EVER seen a man presenting an incoherent case even on D1? This one is having plenty of experience, both with Jaqen and his main. A man is town in most of those games, so this one may wish to rethink this test.

[Dapper Stranger]

@Dapper:

Not what I was going to say, but probably true.



None of the stories people tell about me can change who I really am.
I must be allowed to speak.
I'm worried about being able to do it at all.

You lost me. A man was discussing your vote and why it's bad and isn't seeing how this applies to that.

[Dapper Stranger]

I have learned to watch for such indicators in police and highlight them.

Which is making the skill relevant. Once a lady is bringing her job into a game (any game) it is become free to use. A lady did just this in a recent game we are finishing without provocation to do so, so it's now fair game to use. A man has many and more who are threatening policy lynch before. What's one more threat!

[Dapper Stranger]

It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

I feel like RL stuff should be off limits in terms of analysis just for the fun of the game.

When it's a relevant skill one possesses it isn't mattering where the skill is originating. That it's not being used is suspect as hell. It's relevant here and will be used.

Meta is fine, but ultimately this site is for fun, and dragging RL stuff to read people is dumb. The only thing I think will come of it is one of those long personal arguments that ends in a replace out. Games are in the end escapism to a certain extent, so dragging RL stuff just ruins the game.

Pedit: yeah that reaction is why you don't bring in RL stuff.

Dismissing the skills one possesses is dumb. Hilighting when those skills aren't being used is far from dumb.

[Dapper Stranger]

Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy. Eagle is scummy as hell and I want to choke the people who right him off as a village idiot and the case that has been pushed against him is something I don't agree with because town tend to not be as coherent as scum and the case is based on coherency.

Look at Celt's meta again. She is sucking D1 usually as either alignment. A man isn't saying at this point she can't be scum, just that her suck here isn't a good reason to lynch her.

As far as coherency, a man can only assume this one is speaking of him as its a man who is presenting a case. When has this one EVER seen a man presenting an incoherent case even on D1? This one is having plenty of experience, both with Jaqen and his main. A man is town in most of those games, so this one may wish to rethink this test.

It's a different kind of sucking. As town, she's much more inquisitive than here.

A man is disagreeing. He is seeing her throw the apathetic hands in the air as town when she is run up over halfway quickly with just as many saying they are supporting her wagon before. Again, town are ill informed D1. Especially in the first week of D1. What is this one expecting of her knowing this is who Celt is?

[Dapper Stranger]

Oh and I was town in Organic Chemistry.

And mislynched for D1 suck.

[Dapper Stranger]

Varsoon!!!! Speak with a man!!!! A man isn't liking you depressed in your lonely corner (though he is liking you for town)!

[Dapper Stranger]

Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy. Eagle is scummy as hell and I want to choke the people who right him off as a village idiot and the case that has been pushed against him is something I don't agree with because town tend to not be as coherent as scum and the case is based on coherency.

Look at Celt's meta again. She is sucking D1 usually as either alignment. A man isn't saying at this point she can't be scum, just that her suck here isn't a good reason to lynch her.

As far as coherency, a man can only assume this one is speaking of him as its a man who is presenting a case. When has this one EVER seen a man presenting an incoherent case even on D1? This one is having plenty of experience, both with Jaqen and his main. A man is town in most of those games, so this one may wish to rethink this test.

It's a different kind of sucking. As town, she's much more inquisitive than here.

A man is disagreeing. He is seeing her throw the apathetic hands in the air as town when she is run up over halfway quickly with just as many saying they are supporting her wagon before. Again, town are ill informed D1. Especially in the first week of D1. What is this one expecting of her knowing this is who Celt is?

Her to pick apart posts not involving her and ask questions.

A man is suggesting giving that one room to breathe then.

[Dapper Stranger]

It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

I feel like RL stuff should be off limits in terms of analysis just for the fun of the game.

When it's a relevant skill one possesses it isn't mattering where the skill is originating. That it's not being used is suspect as hell. It's relevant here and will be used.

Meta is fine, but ultimately this site is for fun, and dragging RL stuff to read people is dumb. The only thing I think will come of it is one of those long personal arguments that ends in a replace out. Games are in the end escapism to a certain extent, so dragging RL stuff just ruins the game.

Pedit: yeah that reaction is why you don't bring in RL stuff.

Dismissing the skills one possesses is dumb. Hilighting when those skills aren't being used is far from dumb.

There are 2 arguments here 1 is about whether or not RL stuff can optimize play, and the other (more important 1) is if it ruins the game. If it ruins the game, no matter how useful it might be, drop it. I don't think it actually is a good read anyway, but the fact is that the reaction you are going to get from most people is defensive and upset. The only thing this does for me is make me for reluctant to talk about personal stuff here if it is going to be used against me later by people like you. In the end it is only 1 game and whatever small read you have doesn't matter, so don't start this stuff.

When one is bringing their job into a game without provocation (as Titus is doing in a previous we played) as a basis on which to follow that one's thought process it is then become fair game for usage. Because that one is initializing the relevence of her job it a game. If she is bringing it up only outside a game with no game relevance, a man is agreeing it is off limits. That's not just so in this case.

[Dapper Stranger]

She doesn't need room to breathe to do that.

When all of one's game energy is spent in defense, a man is submitting breath is exactly what's necessary.

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

A man is wondering why a lady is deflecting from a wagon that many and more believe could be scum?

There's no way Jaquen misunderstood what Elyse was saying.

Elyse is saying to get off you and onto another major wagon. Which is exactly what a man is questioning her for.

[Dapper Stranger]

And it isn't changing the fact that Spirflop is spearheading this witch hunt on Celt. Based solely on a random FoS (which is ironically a reach out to Titus as they are sharing similar fates historically) and then reaching to find evidence to specifically support the original notion. Which makes it fruit of the poisonous tree. Evidence leads to conclusion, not the other way around. Which is brought us back to this one's job. A lady, for a living, must realize when the authority is approaching a case from an angle such as this in order to get her clients off and she really SHOULD be seeing it here.

It's not quite the way you see it, I think.

It looks to me like some players are trying their damnedest to suck up to Jemima.

I'm still waiting for her answer, I hope I see it as I'm catching up..

How so?

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

This is a direction in which she is proposing rm goes.

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

This is a taunt admoshing a vote.

This is how a man is reading this.

[Dapper Stranger]

Okay. It's not as bad as I thought.

Stormy: Give me a good reason to think you're town. Because you're the only thing I hate about a Klingon wagon. I should see it soonish. Maybe.

P-edit: No she's not. She's saying Random is hiding behind his vote on me and using it as a reason to not do anything. Which was exactly what he was doing.

Whaddya know I said random's scum too.

Get outta yer own way.

Random Jaquen Klingon

This one is so invested in her scum reads she isn't even remembering them

[Dapper Stranger]

Varsoon!!!! Speak with a man!!!! A man isn't liking you depressed in your lonely corner (though he is liking you for town)!

Haha!

It isn't having to be about this game. Does this one have Battlefront on PS4?

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

This is a direction in which she is proposing rm goes.

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

This is a taunt admoshing a vote.

This is how a man is reading this.

That's more stretchy than my stretch Armstrong toy.

Meh. W/e. A man's initial response is supporting this and a man is as you know quite limber.

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

This is a direction in which she is proposing rm goes.

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

This is a taunt admoshing a vote.

This is how a man is reading this.

That's more stretchy than my stretch Armstrong toy.

Meh. W/e. A man's initial response is supporting this and a man is as you know quite limber.

This one is seeing a man first hand nailing every other scum in Trouser Gods by D2 with less info and more stretch. And then seeing him run that game up until he is poorly choosing to nk Spiffeh over mastin going into mylo.

[Dapper Stranger]

In getting people off she is recognizing (and admits that she does) when the prosecution is having a suspect and then finding evidence to support the guilt thereof instead of finding evidence which is leading them to a suspect. The former is what Spifflop is done to Celt and Titus should see that.

[Dapper Stranger]

Haha!

It isn't having to be about this game. Does this one have Battlefront on PS4?

Well get it and let's play.

[Dapper Stranger]

That Luke gif is exactly how I'd have felt if I'd missed out on the special edition of the game. Great stuff!

[Dapper Stranger]

EVERYONE NOTICE HOW EVERYONE THAT HAS VOTED FOR ME IS TURNING A BLIND EYE TO THE ARGUMENTS PRESENTED FOR KLINGON SCUM YET ARE ACTING LIKE THEIR VOTES ARE JUSTIFIED.

No one is specifically acknowledging the main push we've had all game which means they have no fucking basis for voting us in the first place.

~Spiffy

A man is reading your reasons for Klingscum and seeing them as naught but fluff. That overblown expletive enhanced reaction to a legit case on you is really cute

[Dapper Stranger]

5/101 posts

You're bad.

Since when did quantity of posts matter?

~Spiffy

5 posts this one is actually construvely playing the game

48 posts this one is currying favor and stroking egos

23 posts this one is deriding those who has yet not bought his no case schtick on Kling

24 posts are fluff

That's not town. It is mattering.

[Dapper Stranger]

Why do you feel that way?

~Spiffy

He's far too invested in protecting Klingon and attacking the townblock. His attacks are bullshit and designed to probe weak points in town blocks. He's systemically moved through the block, rather than being frustrated that any particular read was getting ignored. They started with me but I didn't get a wagon. Then Elyse. Then me again. Then itepip. Then you. He's getting frustrated about us being a clique and Klingon bring scumread but not any read getting traction. His attacks, especially that IRL one, are that we suck.

Townblok

D1

Yeah right

A man is wanting no part of that hokey crap

More like scum looping naive town they think they can control into thinking they are town because they're including them in a group. Yeah, catch that whole effing thing on fire and burn it down

[Dapper Stranger]

Lol Jaqen trying to use my anger as a means to umbrella my entire response to him as an "overblown expletive enhanced reaction" and refusing to acknowledge that his case sux

<3

~Spiffy

Nope. A man is seeing that you are liking people to believe that, but it is only a man's case which is needed here scum

[Dapper Stranger]

And once again hiding behind terms such as "fluff" without providing examples so he doesn't have to go address all the shit he is hellbent on avoiding in my ISO.

~Spiffy

A man is pointing out that's what the ISO Widget beside ones name is for. No need te littering the thread with a wall of mindless dribble when it's so handily accessed by clicking the link.

[Dapper Stranger]

Titus our opinions are so similar idk whether to embrace it or be terrified.

PEdit: Jaqen who do you think is scum other than myself? Also why are you trying to ignore how obvtown I was in my latest bout of posting?

~Spiffy

A man is seeing nothing town about it. Over reactions, forcing a townblok with no solid info anywhere yet, and swearing do not a townie make.

[Dapper Stranger]

And once again hiding behind terms such as "fluff" without providing examples so he doesn't have to go address all the shit he is hellbent on avoiding in my ISO.

~Spiffy

A man is pointing out that's what the ISO Widget beside ones name is for. No need te littering the thread with a wall of mindless dribble when it's so handily accessed by clicking the link.

OH MY GOD EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS.

Jaqen was perfectly content with going through my ISO to NITPICK AT TRIVIAL POSTS, but when I ask him to consider the other aspects of my ISO he refuses to comply.

@Eagle thoughts on this?

~Spiffy

Yes and read a man's case where he is explicitly leaving out other of Spitflop's posts for the sake of brevity. A man isn't needlessly cluttering a thread because a scumbutt requests it

Where is a handy Gladiate when it is needed? Aan is gladly martyring himself for the cause. There are far more of us than there are of you Spiff.

[Dapper Stranger]

Notice how I'm fucking inviting Jaqen and EE to analyze me thoroughly but they insist on ignoring my responses.

~Spiffy

A man is analyzing you thoroughly you lying asshat. A man is seeing your strange interactions around Elyse and Klingon and is diving into your ISO with an open mind it is there and then he is finding not only his off then on when it was popular for a second then back off the moment it lost its popularity with Elyse and finding evidence to match your baseless accusation against Klingon as well as his sucking up to perceived strong players. Only THEN is a man convincing that Spitflop is scum. So piss off with you lies and assumptions! If you don't know what is going through my mind with what I say, ask. Don't just go around making shit up.

[Dapper Stranger]

I see it. This is another short game resolved by Titus blocking

A man is noting all those mislynches on you are completely unwarranted. This one isn't as good at this as she is perceived.

[Dapper Stranger]

Ee, asking for thoughts from scumreads is pretty duh. It leaves tells if they are scum and helps readjust if wrong.

I believe your reads are the ones based in emotion not his.

Let me give you a hypothetical.

You are trying to determine if an individual is sick. You do not have a doctor. Two people who know the individual say she's sick. The patient says no and denies these people know her. She points to someone less familiar to say she's healthy.

What conclusion do you draw regarding the patient's health?

Yeah. The one with well thought out and worded explanations is the emotional one...not the one yelling in all caps raging with expletives dotting practically every line he is posting...yeah

[Dapper Stranger]

Also be nice.

~Spiffy

Stop screaming at and cursing me then punk

[Dapper Stranger]

Titus-you and Spiffeh are far, FAR from the only ones who know how Celt plays in this game.

[Dapper Stranger]

PEdit: Btw I KNEW everyone would try to write everything I said off because I was angry. I don't blame them though that's probably the only play they have to keep acting like they're scum reading me.

~Spiffy

No. A man is believing his case on you. The childish squirming is however funny as hell. Die scum die.

[Dapper Stranger]

I was cursing at your case not at you directly.

You know I love you.

Maybe.

~Spiffy

Fick that. No you weren't. I'm not letting that off on some pitting it off like you're talking about an inanimate and not a person whe it's directed directly at me. Seriously fuck you if you think I should be so weak as to fall for that. Of that's the kind of bullshit you have to pull to survive as scum then you should really reevaluate how you approach this game. I called you out as scum with a good case that several people heeded in Trouser Gods like day two or three and you never acted like this, so just fucking die already scum.

[Dapper Stranger]

I am and that wasn't cool. It's possible to play this game as scum with tact. Look at what I did there prefacing some shit with I'm about to offend the shit out of you but don't be offended is crap. You and I both know you're scum. You don't act like this as town. That's the only satisfaction I can take away from this.

As to your one valid question of me during your diatribe- other than you there's pipsqueak and possibly Titus. I'd still burn it all to the grounding the town there are buying into that junk.

[Dapper Stranger]

I am and that wasn't cool. It's possible to play this game as scum with tact. Look at what I did there prefacing some shit with I'm about to offend the shit out of you but don't be offended is crap. You and I both know you're scum. You don't act like this as town. That's the only satisfaction I can take away from this.

As to your one valid question of me during your diatribe- other than you there's pipsqueak and possibly Titus. I'd still burn it all to the ground if the town there are buying into that junk.

[Dapper Stranger]

Effin phone posting!!!!!
FTFY

I am and that wasn't cool. It's possible to play this game as scum with tact. Look at what I did in Trouser. Prefacing some shit with I'm about to offend the shit out of you but don't be offended is crap. You and I both know you're scum. You don't act like this as town. That's the only satisfaction I can take away from this.

As to your one valid question of me during your diatribe- other than you there's pipsqueak and possibly Titus. I'd still burn it all to the ground if the town there are buying into that junk.

[Dapper Stranger]

I love intellectual sparring. These questions were thinly veiled sparring anyway. Jaquen picked it up too.

Either you are paranoid of experts or you really are filtering everything through Klingon town.

What happens in a Klingon scum world?

Things are changing, obviously. But this is where we are right now. A man is stating there is no EVIDENCE of Klingscum. Only gut feelings. There' IS actual evidence of a scum agenda coming from Spitflop. And now a non town Spiffeh reaction. A lady is but blinded by a "hun" thrown her way and the fact that for once she isn't on the chopping block.

[Dapper Stranger]

hiplop here to say I'm gonna catch up as best I can tomorrow

but what the fuck happened while I was gone

Spiffeh is doing some weird things causing a man to look at you, unobjectively, in detail looking to see if there's any meat or if Spiffeh had a bout of random weirdness. A man is finding much and more and presenting a case with a vote. Then others are seeing the wisdom a man is presenting and agree with votes of their own. If a man is right it is providing 2 all but guaranteed town and a D1 scum lynch. Then Spiffeh is overreacting to a man's case in ways town Spiffeh doesn't react. And here we are.

I'm sincerely sorry for your loss Hiplop. No time is a good time for such things, but this time of year is somehow worse. And I'm sorry this game stuff is coming about when it is if it's pulling you away from being able to grieve.

[Dapper Stranger]

grapes, jaqen hagar, EE and randommidget is our wagon.

if this isn't scum pushed I don't know what is. Literally everyone who has been widely scumread is pushing our wagon

pedit: jaqen I've briefly looked at your case and its completely reliant on someone being town. That's bullshit? you're way better than this. You did this shit in FF7 mafia and it lost the game for town. Don't do this again

Nope. It's all your slot. It is having nothing to do with assuming anyone is anything at this point. The only assumptions which can be made comes after you are flipping. You are reading only the scum topic cliff notes version which is attacking a weakness which isn't present in my case on you. GJ.

[Dapper Stranger]

If I am right Jaquen Kling and random as scum?

Assuming this one is 100% wrong on that first count, because you are, where is this leaving her?

[Dapper Stranger]

Jaqen, what are your thoughts on the wagon composition of spifflop? Theres no fucking way you think this is a good wagon with who is on it.

(especially you, cerb. If you're there please talk some sense into this guy)

EE is the most obvtown in this game, so a man is having no issue at all there. With Grapes a man is holding no opinion one way or the other.

[Dapper Stranger]

If I am right Jaquen Kling and random as scum?

Assuming this one is 100% wrong on that first count, because you are, where is this leaving her?

That question is for EE not you.

And? How about answering a man's question.

[Dapper Stranger]

dapper is a hydra of cerb and jaqen isn't it?

pedit: you think jaqen scum? I'm still a bit behind. You said the opposite a few pages back, apologies.

No....

No you don't? Because, yes you are naming a man town a few pages back which isn't a typo because it is having some modifier about being misled or whatever.

[Dapper Stranger]

dapper is a hydra of cerb and jaqen isn't it?

pedit: you think jaqen scum? I'm still a bit behind. You said the opposite a few pages back, apologies.

No....

Jaquen more likely than not is scum.

He's far too invested in protecting Klingon and attacking the townblock. His attacks are bullshit and designed to probe weak points in town blocks. He's systemically moved through the block, rather than being frustrated that any particular read was getting ignored. They started with me but I didn't get a wagon. Then Elyse. Then me again. Then itepip. Then you. He's getting frustrated about us being a clique and Klingon bring scumread but not any read getting traction. His attacks, especially that IRL one, are that we suck.

Titus yes you did? Lol

PEdit: Jaqen remember that time preflip associatives helped town steamroll the game?

Me neither.

~Spiffy

Yes actually, but a man isn't talking about PREflip associative so. A man is EXPLICITLY SOECIFIC that Kling and Elyse are only town AFTER you are flipping scum. A man is saying this in every post, including his original case, on the topic. Try again...

[Dapper Stranger]

That's saying

More likely than not Jaquen is scum. Meaning greater than 50 percent chance of Jaquen scum.

Then let turn this into a Gladiate scenario of only me or Spitflop's today. A man is already suggesting being a martyr to the cause. Let's do this. And you answer a man's question...

What is a man flipping town doing to your screwed up reads?

[Dapper Stranger]

jaqen you did this fucking shit in ff7

step away and fucking thing about it. We're town.

No. In FFVII a man isn't doing the work. It is also a man's first game back after a two year hiatus and he is a bit rusty. A man is back in the saddle now as my reads in Trouser Gods prove (just ask Spiffeh if you don't know). And a man is doing this in every game when he is feeling pretty good about a case with much and more success. So, no, a man isn't dropping this.

[Dapper Stranger]

Nah I will take the scum that is wagoned

A reset means throw everything out and start over. Hit the rest button.

I will answer the rest in the morning sober

Answer a man now when he believes you'll be honest to a degree. It's one simple question.

[Dapper Stranger]

Klingon is objectively not a "counter wagon"

we are.

A counterwagon is any wagons that two players must pick between but in the vernacular people think counterwagon only applies to the wagon that came second in which Klingon would not be a counter wagon.

Klingon is a CW to both Shiro and EE

[Dapper Stranger]

You are using terms incorrectly and that causes much and more confusion. A counterwagon is naught but a wagon which is forming as an alternative to a previous wagon. Terms are important in a game such as this and their proper use even moreso. One's personal definition is causing mislynched because you are meaning one thing while saying another.

[Dapper Stranger]

the ee wagon was shit

my wagon is shit. Almost like scum is going for the vocal townies or something

Grapes was on you first Kirchhoff. Nobody is following that. A man is discovering there is a case to be made for this one being scum and that is being followed. This one saying over and over his wagon is scum driven isn't changing anything because a man knows himself to be town. In fact, that is falling on deaf ears. A man is finding no coincidence Spiff's push just happens to be on a player who is getting stronger as the game is progressing and who is figuring the slot out eventually.

[Dapper Stranger]

I meant in this particular context but its 4am and I'm fucking tired

yes a counterwagon is just a second wagon

anyways, jaqen, you would know you're full of shit by now. You know this isn't my scum game, or should anyway. I have no idea what to think of elyse. I honestly am thinking shes scum. Spiffeh strongly disagrees. We agree on basically everything but that

Cleaning stuff up now it's pointed out to you isn't erasing that which is done when left to your own devices. It's easy to play as town you once scum you is pointed out in detail.

[Dapper Stranger]

In other words- I know you're a stronger player than Spiffeh. It wasn't your play this is coming from. Spiffeh being better now isn't changing anything. Sorry.

[Dapper Stranger]

describe my scum game then, jaqen. No one caught me in FF7, and you clearly still can't. Like, I don't have to shake it up if you still can't read me apparently.

"scum me" has never been pointed in detail

Umm... a man is having his doubts about you from D3 in FFVII and is making it perfectly clear in 4191. That isn't meaning anyone is listening to him but he is never trusting you to be town there.

[Dapper Stranger]

describe my scum game then, jaqen. No one caught me in FF7, and you clearly still can't. Like, I don't have to shake it up if you still can't read me apparently.

"scum me" has never been pointed in detail

spiffeh is a damn fine town player and is killing it this game. I hope you realize that at least when kling flips scum.

This is town me. We have caught scum, trust me on this ffs. If we're wrong, I'll hear you out on Elyse scum, but I don't think we are.

No. We flip you and if you're town then Klimg can go and Elyse be scrutinized. A man isn't lymching two players who are town cleared if you are flipping scum before making the smart play and flipping you first. If you're town you aren't fighting this. You aren't personally needing to survive to win. We have the numbers and your flip makes things much clearer tomorrow either way.

And a man isn't saying Spiffeh is bad, a man is saying you're stronger.

And really about the nickname? You've never spit, had it catch on your lower lip, and flop on your chin? It's a funny pun. Jeez.

[Dapper Stranger]

I think your problem is that we had a not-so-serious vote on Klingon with her shitty entrance, and as she posted she KEPT UP with her scummy entrance.

You don't have to think.

As the master of his own thoughts a man is probably much and more well equipped in interpreting his own thoughts. And a man has explained, but is once more:

You vote someone for doing something different from RVS

You convince yourself your read is correct

Then you go on to say everything she says from there out has even more evidence she's scum

That's called a Plethora of Evidence and usually points to someone's innocence and that they may be being set up

[Dapper Stranger]

Pre-flip associatives don't work.

They do, and have.

But that's not even what this is.

This is I think you are scum and if you flip and I'm right both Elyse and Celt are town.

That's explicitly POST FLIP ASSOCIATIVES

[Dapper Stranger]

Official Vote Count

Spifflop

(3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle

Spider Gwen

(1): randomidget

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

1. Randommidget isn't on you, that one is on Gwen

2. In his 17 posts a man isn't forming an opinion there yet as he could as likely be town keeping his head down to not stick out to scum or just scum. Inactivity isn't ringing for a man.

[Dapper Stranger]

You forget that sometimes people are right, and are very passionate about their rightness. And the party in the wrong continues to do wrong-things.

Its like, I knew Donald trump was a shit candidate a year ago. He has proceeded to become worse. This is the same situation. I turned my attention away to hating Ben Carson, but now I'm back to my hatred of Trump. Yes, it could be a "plethora of evidence", as you put it, or kling/Trump could just be scummier than he/she was before. Hint, its that one. I gave her a fair shot, and her reemergence in this game pinned her as scum.

and honestly even if you think we're wrong, at worst we're tunnelly town. I'm not sure where your case transforms into "we are evil scum"

pedit: right now its preflip. Assuming there is a associative before any flips = preflip

First she isn't posting the right stuff so she's scum

Then she's posting the right stuff but is scum anyhow

That tunneling at best

[Dapper Stranger]

You forget that sometimes people are right, and are very passionate about their rightness. And the party in the wrong continues to do wrong-things.

Its like, I knew Donald trump was a shit candidate a year ago. He has proceeded to become worse. This is the same situation. I turned my attention away to hating Ben Carson, but now I'm back to my hatred of Trump. Yes, it could be a "plethora of evidence", as you put it, or kling/Trump could just be scummier than he/she was before. Hint, its that one. I gave her a fair shot, and her reemergence in this game pinned her as scum.

and honestly even if you think we're wrong, at worst we're tunnelly town. I'm not sure where your case transforms into "we are evil scum"

pedit: right now its preflip. Assuming there is a associative before any flips = preflip

It's plain that there are associatives with this one's flip. If a man is calling them town/scum today based on how I think you will flip that's pre associative. When a man is saying they will be plainly town/scum after seeing how you are flipping that's POST associative.

[Dapper Stranger]

so yes, random is fucking on my wagon. Showed no resistance at all, like right away.

Does that change anything?


(real last post, pce)

Nope. A man is following the evidence where it is taking him. Nothing more, nothing less. And a man is just posting how he is feeling about rm.

[Dapper Stranger]

last post tonight

Also,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: spifflop
Doesn't look like spidey is happening today.

.

SHE POSTED THE WRONG STUFF, JAQEN. You're tunneling. Spiffeh outlined quite cleary why kling was scum. Her completely fabricated reads

(oh, like thise a man is noticing you have done?)

, the damning meta on her by titus

(oh, like how Spiffeh is reacting to a man's case? Was he ignoring it earlier? Need to check.)

, her dodging of questions

(isn't that akin to misrepping someone? You know, like how you and Spiffeh have done with me calling the clears that will come with you scum flip preassociative when they clearly aren't?)

, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

(If a man is right and you are scum, would it not be to your advantage to get rid of a strong late game town while she's at her weakest?)

I don't give a shit about early game, she got progressively more scummy. It took a LOT to pry me from my grapes read. It was not tunneling, it was logic and damning evidence, jaqen.

[Dapper Stranger]

Ok, a man is checking and while Spiffeh isn't kart out ignoring a man's case he is ignoring it fir around 14 hours before actually responding to it and is posting plenty in the interim. This is looking like he is waiting for help before responding. If Spifflop is flipping scum then whoever wasn't on during that time frame before his response and shows up at about the same time he us actually getting around to responding is needing scrutiny.

[Dapper Stranger]

*flat out

[Dapper Stranger]

That one is talking about a mans case and how he is going to respond to it instead of just responding to it for 14 hours. Even if he is working at first that's at best 6 hours given when it was posted. The other 8 he just keeps putting off his response and saying he's going to. A man is pushing nothing and since you obviously aren't taking his word for it go look for yourself

[Dapper Stranger]

Ok, a man is checking and while Spiffeh isn't kart out ignoring a man's case he is ignoring it fir around 14 hours before actually responding to it and is posting plenty in the interim. This is looking like he is waiting for help before responding. If Spifflop is flipping scum then whoever wasn't on during that time frame before his response and shows up at about the same time he us actually getting around to responding is needing scrutiny.

You are really pushing it here. The way that I and most people answer to the many posts is in order of posting. Also good luck arguing that you can tell that it is mafia chat over hydra chat.

That last part is easy. Hiplop isn't on site before late last night because that one is having a death he is attending. Which is faaaarrrrr more important than mafia and understandably so.

[Dapper Stranger]

Ya know, this was 12 pages less when I went to bed last night.

Kinda makes me think the vote is the right one because of all this shit flying in the thread to try and distract us otherwise.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

You guys should all come back to voting grapes. He is the best wagon that had surfaced so far.

@Dapper if it wasn't for how horrible all the other votes on spiff are I would be able to consider your reasons but take a look at the wagon and tell me how that is a town motivated wagon.

Grapes a man is having no opinion on or experience with- null

EE is town as fuck- town

PerV lurks regardless of alignment- null

Randommidget is pretty much another grapes- null

I'm town

That's 2 town, three null from a man's perspective. It is extremely unlikely each of the three null are scum, but it is likely one could be. It is rare having any wagon void of scum. Rarer still to have one while all scum are living. If you are getting on, please do so on the merits of the case.

[Dapper Stranger]

1255 -

First, for teaching your little brother chess metaphor. You may not beat him, but you're probably familiar with the gambits and openings he likes to start with as both white and black correct? You may not have figured out to beat him, but you know what he does in certain circumstances.

This isn't that and you may as well speak plainly, a man is understanding metaphor.

[Dapper Stranger]

Klingoncelt is

the type of person scum push as a first

or last resort if scum. If she was town, her wagon should have been rapid as fuck. It wasn't. It's a name here and a name there gradually.

And the majority of that one's wagon is growing over about 12 hours.

[Dapper Stranger]

@Jaqen
As someone who is "cleared" from a Spiff scumflip, how do you feel that I am against it?

A man is having no feeling actually. If you are town you are KNOWING exactly as much as a man at this point. You are forming your own opinions on players and a man is having no expectations that his will be yours. The only frustration is the amount of effort a man is putting in to find if there is or isn't a case in the first place, the effort taken to keep the case as brief as possible, and the resistance to the wagon Which probably means a man is on the right track (and with as many games as I've played with or watched you guys play that alone should be turning on a massive light house in your mind).

[Dapper Stranger]

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

Aunt Jemina - C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she?.

A man is keeping in his normal chat racier so he is t forgetting to sign. He is finding this somehow simpler. Fresh is speaking as he speaks. That one's absence is because of the three r's.

2 of 3 YCBA's are disagreeing with your AJ fallacy, though that is bearing no weight.

You clipped the quote in order to misrepresent what was being said there. Klingon never said AJ was town because she's always town. She came away with the conclusion she's scum. Why would you clip out and distort what she'd actually said? The only purpose there is to misrepresent her. Because there's no town motivation in even just doing it to comment on AJ's record. That's so far outside of the scope of the conversation it's not funny.

---

There's actually only 2 names there that I hate.

At least one additional name joins in the form of Shiro if it means anything to you.

I'm meh on Shiro.

---

And then Jaquen begins to make a Spiffy-scum case based on Klingon being town. Because don't kid yourself, that's exactly what it is.

@Spiffy/Stormy: I will join that wagon if there's no other way. But I don't like how Stranger has approached this. He seemed ready to misrep Klingon and jump on that wagon, but then he formed a counter instead and started WKing her. Something is wrong here.

A man clips a quote so when it's read you are knowing to which part he is responding. And no, Spifflop case is built on Spitflop alone. No matter how much this one is trying to misrepping everything a man is doing.

[Dapper Stranger]

But I don't like how Stranger has approached this. He seemed ready to misrep Klingon and jump on that wagon, but then he formed a counter instead and started WKing her. Something is wrong here.

That's just it. A man

was

just about ready to jump on a Celt wagon. Before jumping on a man is going back to check all the facts and evidence. That evidence is leading back not to Celtscum, but rather Spiff scum. A man is saying this until he is blue in the face- he is considering all evidence unobjectively and is landing where that evidence is taking him. Spiff must needs be lynched. If you are needing a man's flip to know his words are true intent, then so be it, but at the end of the day Spiff needs to die.

This is not one of a man's gambits.

[Dapper Stranger]

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

Aunt Jemina - C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she?.

A man is keeping in his normal chat racier so he is t forgetting to sign. He is finding this somehow simpler. Fresh is speaking as he speaks. That one's absence is because of the three r's.

2 of 3 YCBA's are disagreeing with your AJ fallacy, though that is bearing no weight.

You clipped the quote in order to misrepresent what was being said there. Klingon never said AJ was town because she's always town. She came away with the conclusion she's scum. Why would you clip out and distort what she'd actually said? The only purpose there is to misrepresent her. Because there's no town motivation in even just doing it to comment on AJ's record. That's so far outside of the scope of the conversation it's not funny.

---

There's actually only 2 names there that I hate.

At least one additional name joins in the form of Shiro if it means anything to you.

I'm meh on Shiro.

---

And then Jaquen begins to make a Spiffy-scum case based on Klingon being town. Because don't kid yourself, that's exactly what it is.

@Spiffy/Stormy: I will join that wagon if there's no other way. But I don't like how Stranger has approached this. He seemed ready to misrep Klingon and jump on that wagon, but then he formed a counter instead and started WKing her. Something is wrong here.

And I am extremely interested in someone talking to me about Alchemist-scum because I'm hearing it in the background constantly and I'm sure someone in the game has a coherent reason for why they think it's true.

All a man is noticing is that one's thoughts and actions aren't always meshing with each other. A man is asking AJ of that one and she is saying he is solid town so a man is back burner img him.

[Dapper Stranger]

But I don't like how Stranger has approached this. He seemed ready to misrep Klingon and jump on that wagon, but then he formed a counter instead and started WKing her. Something is wrong here.

That's just it. A man

was

just about ready to jump on a Celt wagon. Before jumping on a man is going back to check all the facts and evidence. That evidence is leading back not to Celtscum, but rather Spiff scum. A man is saying this until he is blue in the face- he is considering all evidence unobjectively and is landing where that evidence is taking him. Spiff must needs be lynched. If you are needing a man's flip to know his words are true intent, then so be it, but at the end of the day Spiff needs to die.

This is not one of a man's gambits.

And to add- a man isn't ready to misrepping anyone or anything. It's against his wincon so piss off with these unfounded accusations. Show where a man has even once solidly done this. Put up or shut up. And snipping a quote to respond to one thing isn't that.

[Dapper Stranger]

Are you talking to me, Jaqen? If so - I see absolutely nothing wrong with voting someone I feel is scum while inquiring about another person who I feel could be.

Your vote is bad, but a man isn't condemning you for it. He isn't even asking you about it. You wanted someone to talk with you about alchemist and a man is trying to do so. The Gwen quote above yours is a ghost from a man's previous post and he isn't knowing why it popped up when he is quoting you.

[Dapper Stranger]

Scum attack to discredit arguments.

The irony of this one knowing this, saying this, and then not unobjectively using this knowledge...

[Dapper Stranger]

its a link to our scum QT

Considering the source, a man isn't surprised if that's just so.

[Dapper Stranger]

Oh and your wagon analysis is off. See Legends of the Hidden Temple.

I expect a townie to have voted for Spiffeh at some point, thus convincing scum the wagon has a chance.

If a scum is wagoned early, scum have two options. Bus or find a counter. I think we both can agree bus is not likely an option. So Klingon is thrown out as a counter suggestion.

Umm...bullshit?

This one is now taking advantage of a player's inexperience to manipulate him to her way of thinking. Scum, particularly Titus and TSO when they are scum, will ardently defend their scum mates early in a game because they are able to make it wifom when someone is calling them out for said defense because there will be plenty townies on early mislynched who are thinking the lynched was scum at the time. Titus is probably scum here. A man was trying to not have to sort this one prior to D2 because of that one's D1 track record but a man isn't sitting idly by while she is poisoning the minds of all she can.

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

A man is wondering why a lady is deflecting from a wagon that many and more believe could be scum?

There's no way Jaquen misunderstood what Elyse was saying.

Elyse is saying to get off you and onto another major wagon. Which is exactly what a man is questioning her for.

We've been over this.

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

This is a direction in which she is proposing rm goes.

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

This is a taunt admoshing a vote.

This is how a man is reading this.

I know what I meant, not you. Spider Gwen clearly understood me. You're wrong.

And if Gwen is saying "there's no way Klingon meant that" instead of stating 'there was no way a man is misinterpreting that' then a man's statement us t existing. A man is replying to that jerk off's constant trying to explain my personal thoughts as if she were me. She's not. And that constant barrage from her twisting my words so she can paint me the way she likes is getting really.fucking.old.

[Dapper Stranger]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Yeah, arguing with the Scums is getting to be a pain in the ass. I think I'll spend my Sunday & maybe Monday sorting through the Null pile.

Can't Read:

Alchemist21
Aneninen
Garmr

Town:

Errantparabola
Extrapolated Eagle
Shiro
Spider Gwen
Varsoon

Lean Town:

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra)
I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)
TSO

Null:

Grapes
Randomidget
Spifflop(Spiffeh & Hiplop hydra)
TheWayItEnds

Lean Scum:

Aunt Jemina

Scum:

Elyse
Inte
Itlepip
Passionate Storm(Jeanne11 & Titus hydra)
PeregrineV

PV is probably a PR and I'm not feeling Elyse is scum either. Inte, maybe but a man is having him null. Spitflop, Titus, and TSO are rounding out a man's bottom 5. Though, TSO's shitty early town game often makes a man misread him. Maybe one of these days he will recognize hiw shitty his early game is and work with those whose early game isn't sucking so many ballz. Obviously a man is at the top of his town list.

Other than that, this one and a man are practically on the same page.

[Dapper Stranger]

Kling didn't say any of that so I'm not sure what you're talking about or why Kling quoted that earlier.

You then. That one's quote tags failed and it is looking like she is saying that. A man isn't remembering off the top of his head who is making the statement, the sticking point is Gwen's reply about how a man is interpreting what you are saying. So, same point just directed at Elyse. And how is this one not sure what a man is talking about?

[Dapper Stranger]

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepip

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

HOW DO PEOPLE THINK THIS IS TOWN.
SHE GIVES ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THIS VOTE HOLY SHIT.

~Spiffy

Yes I did:

The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead,

Town is expected to work for you

Help a man lynch this then. It is seeming more and more we are having a very loud, whingy scum team to battle this time which is making this game annoying as all fuck. A man is even considering for the first time ever replacing out. Listening to mother fuckers cry and whine about being scum read as scum until out of shear I'll unvote you just so you shut the fuck up isn't enjoyable.

[Dapper Stranger]

Is the "she" that is twisting your words Spider Gwen or me?

Spider Gwen. Over and fucking over.

[Dapper Stranger]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

3/5

[Dapper Stranger]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

This is over the line, even for scum. Don't care compare players to racist assholes.

Not over the line. A man isn't saying those weren't racist or at least ill informed as to the tenants of Islam, but she is comparing the ignorance in one being equal to the ignorance in the other, or at least so a man is thinking.

[Dapper Stranger]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

This is over the line, even for scum. Don't care compare players to racist assholes.

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

This is over the line, even for scum. Don't care compare players to racist assholes.

Then quit acting like them. Repeating a lie over and over does not make it true. And you are lying about my Day1 play.

A man is corrected

[Dapper Stranger]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Cough coaching Cough sorry had something in my throat.

Yes. The inexperienced coaching the seasoned. Yep, that's how that us working. Besides Garmr, scum is having Daychat in the previous games and a man is surprised if the same isn't true here.

[Dapper Stranger]

Love the multi quote error a man is getting. Only the bottom quotes in those last two are pertains to a man's response

[Dapper Stranger]

Jaqen, remind me when your early game has ever been better than mine? Really? Because the last time we played together in Inorganic Chemistry you were so hilariously bad that you attempted to tell everyone that everyone you protected you actually thought was scum, and vice versa.

Please stop talking rubbish unless you've got something to back it up.

And a man is supposing when he is giving this, this one will stfu and realize he is but a distraction from scum hunting D1 and wait until he is shining before trying to lead town?

[Dapper Stranger]

How am I a lurker? How am I similar to Klingon wtf.

Your two teams don't make much sense to me.

That one said Klingon OR itlepip. OR. As in one but not the other. Words are important. Read them.

[Dapper Stranger]

My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.

Because it is.

[Dapper Stranger]

Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.

Ok.



Hmmm.

Alright.
VOTE: Klingon

I reserve the right to call you scummy as much as I want d2 if she flips town. No "I was town so I couldn't have known her alignment" or any of that. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. If I'm alive d2 you're not going to strongarm or WIFOM me. I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. You will have to convince me that you're town or I swear I will push your lynch until I run out of breath or you get lynched. And keeping me alive tomorrow will not make me doubt that you're scum.

Eagles aren't flying in CAVES.

[Dapper Stranger]

oops I forgot that post. TSO I would argue that EE really isn't aligned with Kling here. Again we are looking at 2 factions here, and given that gamestate bussing doesn't make any sense, especially for someone relatively new to the game. If they wanted to bus they would have done so earlier, not suddenly have 1 of them switch after my post. EE being new (please don't take offense here, I really like some of your recent play) means that of all the scum he has the easiest argument for noob stuck on townreading a scum and not being able to change his mentality. I really think his switch was a choice made my him and representative of his reads, which makes him town.

2 factions? Multiball slip!

[Dapper Stranger]

Catching-up.

Firstly, Dapper's 958. I see your points, but have you considered they're a hydra? (I've just started cathing-up, sorry if this has been pointed out.)

What doesn't make sense about my explanation for the cult thing?
And lastly, if I had other scumreads besides Varsoon I would have said so in that post.

I've explained it a couple of times. The sooner the Cult is out the better it is.
And I still can't get it why Varsoon is your only scumread.

Random's readlist in 966 contains just as much information as a cubic metre of deep space contains astatine.

Also,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: spifflop
Doesn't look like spidey is happening today.

Eeeeeeeeeeek!
I'm quoting Antihero right now:

al;kdjfal;kj !!!!!

UNVOTE:

Alchemist's 984 is a DAFUQ, especially the vote.

________

Okay, it's simply not working with 20+ pages to read.
Anyone, anything I should be aware of?

(Right now I'm willing to move my vote back or Randomidget or Alchemist.)

Of course. A man is also considering it is been mostly all Spiffeh. A man is right on this read. They are scum. Just ride with me this time.

[Dapper Stranger]

How am I a lurker? How am I similar to Klingon wtf.

Your two teams don't make much sense to me.

That one said Klingon OR itlepip. OR. As in one but not the other. Words are important. Read them.

My point is that how could there be a scumteam where me and Klingon are interchangable. Furthermore how have I been a lurker? You don't agree with those scum team do you?

Pedit:wtf does that mean.

A man is making no judgement on the accuracy of what EE is saying. He isn't making a relation between you and Kling. He is making a relation between you and those others he is naming and a relation between Kling and those same others. The "or" is giving theeaning that you two aren't belonging together even though he is seeing relations to both of you independently with those other four. Is English your first language? Serious question.

[Dapper Stranger]

Jaqen, remind me when your early game has ever been better than mine? Really? Because the last time we played together in Inorganic Chemistry you were so hilariously bad that you attempted to tell everyone that everyone you protected you actually thought was scum, and vice versa.

Please stop talking rubbish unless you've got something to back it up.

And a man is supposing when he is giving this, this one will stfu and realize he is but a distraction from scum hunting D1 and wait until he is shining before trying to lead town?

A man will just answer and thanks you for making this one so easy. Inorganic Chemistry. A man is naming 6 scumspects D1. 4 of those end up being scum. 2 end up being town. There is 5 scum in the game. Like this game, TSO is taking it on his shoulders to belittle a man and put down his reads thinking his zero for however many D1 reads are far superior (he's the kind of player who comes into a game with preconceived notions of who he WANTS to play with and they are always all town D1 while he picks his scum from those who he doesn't want to play with or doesn't care one way or the other. And is having much and more reverance for particular players and somehow still doesn't see the ignorance in this). TSO is great midgame on and a man is likely sheeping him at that point, but his D1,D2 is sucking to hell. Then there is Trouser God. A man is on one scum team in multiball. He is correctly naming each and every opposing scum team and the SK by night one (most on D1). So yeah TSO. There ya go. Open your eyes man. Stop being a pushy ass where you know you are having no room to.

[Dapper Stranger]

No.

2 factions is town and scum. If you're going to argue slip, Say single ball.

Still wrong. Single ball is pretty evident from no KC lynch but hey town's not lynching scum BC of lurkers and dumbasses.

Says one scum

[Dapper Stranger]

PAGES 38 to 41

Let's look at 947, the Kling reads list.
I shrug my shoulders on the lurker scumreads.
I don't see scum motivation with the description you place on itlepip, klingon. Care to explain?
Agreed with your Eagle read. If eagle is scum let's give him a "Best Bullshitter in the Universe" award for sure
Overall, it seems you're pulling scumreads out of nowhere. I don't like your itlepip reads and it looks like your lurker scumreads are designed to inflate your scumreads list to make it look like you're scumhunting.

948 and aneninen criticized me for being vague. Damn son

Even if the whole game is about shouting at each other, waging flame wars against each other, making others upset and getting upset because of others, at moments like this I hope you can feel that you're amongst friends after all.

Agreed wholeheartedly. I send my best wishes, hiplop.

OH damn, a spifflop wagon happening on page 39. That's a twist.

Spitflop's ISO, if one is investigating, is full of these kinds of posts where that one is assigning reads with no substance. This is sounding to a man as having come from an informed perspective.

I've definitely seen reads with no substance coming from town with equal frequency.
Confident players =/= scum players, even though scum are informed.

974 was a pretty good post. There was some good arguments but I disagree with the conclusion. I don't think giving null-leaning reads points to scum. But I think itlepip is pretty towny at this point.
987 also reads decently to me. Good work, soldier.
I also see consistent logic and train of thought coming from here

The other posts are naught but Klingon under pressure. She is pretty much sucking D1 as town and coming on strong late game. Which is why that one is a slam dunk for scum.

Question. Is kling's scumplay D1 any better? because from the comments I've seen regarding Kling's meta say otherwise. So Kling's behavior is at best non-indicative. Am I wrong?

She is either lurking it out or constantly contradicting herself as early game scum in a man's experience.

[Dapper Stranger]

DAPPER
so you're saying that Kling's D1 behavior is NOT non-indicative at best? Because I remember you saying that kling's behavior is non-indicative somewhere in the pages that I'm caught up to.

A man is saying exactly what he said. Don't this one start that putting words in a man's mouth shit to. Celt isn't doing enough for a man to make a comfortable read either way.

[Dapper Stranger]

man

Spitflop's ISO, if one is investigating, is full of these kinds of posts where that one is assigning reads with no substance. This is sounding to a man as having come from an informed perspective.

I've definitely seen reads with no substance coming from town with equal frequency.
Confident players =/= scum players, even though scum are informed.

A man is seeing this, but is watching football at the same time and so is waiting until after the game to respond.

A man is saying this exact thing in his case (is EP even reading a man's whole case, because a man very specifically says this is just so?).

This alone isn't causing a man's scum read on Spit.

As one point, this one is right. It's not enough to make a case from. In fact, any one point in a man's case isn't enough to hang Spitflop's with ON ITS OWN.

Every point taken into consideration together however is as solid as you can expect on the first day of a large game. Flaky reads with no supporting reasons. Flip-flopping his town reads to scum reads when it is looking like they could be popular. Kissing the butts of those who may oppose them to gain favor. Teaming up with his town-to scum when popular- back to town read to lynch a counter. ALL THAT SHIT

TOGETHER

IS MAKING A LOCK TIGHT CASE. Alone, each point is simply suspicious.

This, as Titus is kind enough to point out earlier, is how scum are attacking a case on their scummate. Particularly early in the game when it's "safe". This, TSO, is how you are getting preflip associatives. THIS is one. And, it too is solid.

A man is lynching this with speed and fire if everyone is still too chickenshit to weigh the sum total of a man's case against Spitflop. This one flipping scum is PROVING a man's Spitcase is legit.

Jason- what is happening to AJ. That one isn't being seen in ages

[Dapper Stranger]

What, I never claimed multiball. I meant two groups of different alignment. I didn't even know that multiball was a possibility this game until I was accused on crumbing it.

And of course this one is being honest if she did in fact slip...

[Dapper Stranger]

I wouldn't be surprised if scum was on spiff wagon though

A man would be surprised if there are scum on every wagon of 5 or more as that's usually the case? Why is this one singling out the Spitwagon?

[Dapper Stranger]

She is either lurking it out or constantly contradicting herself as early game scum in a man's experience.

Is kling doing either of these things?

No. At the same time, a man is seeing players of her experience all of a sudden blossom beyond what they were and have a break out game. If a man is going just on previous experience and disregarding this fact, a man is naming her town based on the past couple real day's posting. If.

[Dapper Stranger]

What, I never claimed multiball. I meant two groups of different alignment. I didn't even know that multiball was a possibility this game until I was accused on crumbing it.

"Two groups of different alignment..."

Would it not have been easier and more sensible to say "I meant Town and Mafia?"

Nice

Again, words are important

[Dapper Stranger]

Klingon

(Your name is in bold because I'm frustrated with you.)

No. That was only kind of what I was talking about. I think your reads are inexcusable. As is your lack of push. I am certainly frustrated with you. Perhaps you are more experienced than you appear.

Ep we need to talk. About several things. First of all, where are you going next in this game? What's your next move? I don't like the passive reaction stuff you've had going on for a bit. Is that just because you're catching up, or...? Because I think that is a bit scummy. As was your interest in the Elyse wagon around the time Klings wagon began picking up. I also don't like how you failed to engage me when I asked how you felt about wagonning someone I thought might be scum with you. However, I have seen some good sense come out of you. So talk to me. What's up?

Dapper. We need to talk. I like you and where you're at. I'm starting to think Passionate Storm is probably town, just frustrated and certain a certain someone should be lynched. Based on TAOs reaction (not the overreaction post, that was really rather scummy) and his reads, I think he's probably town as well. Elyse is probably town, too, but I can't truly read her right now. I think her posts are quite anti-town, but perhaps she means well. So that first team proposal was a bit of a wash, but they're still rather bullish and I don't feel comfortable trying to work with any of them right now. I actually would probably feel better if we just lynched the whole lot, (though I won't) their arrogance and overconfidence is distracting, intrusive, and rather anti-town. I guess we all have things to learn.

I shared what I thought of errant above. AJ is also a bit passive, doesn't push reads, simply states facts. I would love to have some pressure there. Firebringer was chosen for this team over shirk because shirk was aggressive but restrained. I would expect the aggressive scum in the passive party to be a bit more all out. Itlepip dits this because he's aggressive but a bit restrained and he's been pushing wagons. But I think I actually have a town read on him. Maybe the second strongest after you. Klingon would maybe fit this part because she does cause chaos, and I'd this was a thing, I think that the AJ vote on her was probably planned in daytalk. But I'm not too sure about this. Spifflop actually does fit this build, I think. He has built his game around being somewhat reckless and his reads just seem to match whatever he wants at the moment. Aneninen might actually be a part of this team. He never did respond to my question about participating in a lynch, and the chlotilde thing could be a ruse/excuse to get him by as a loon. Other Head needs to catch up and share thoughts. All of the people I've mentioned here with the exception of those in the aggressive/defensive persons section are in a decent place to start acting town if necessary.
What do you think of this? My reads on the first two teams

Also, Dapper, let's talk about Klingon. I thought she could be town most of the game, but her reads are atrocious. The reasoning behind them is sad. So. If I'm going to build a team around Klingon scum, who do I choose? Aneninen, with his unvote? Varsoon with his crumbing that leads Hansel and Gretel in circles? The problem is I can't really find too many scum buddies. I guess maybe spider Gwen. I would like to hear her thoughts, though. She's probably town. I feel weird about her, and I can't put my finger on why, but I think she's probably town.

Anyways. What do you think about these as well?

Spider Gwen we should chat when you get a chance about where you're at and stuff.

Dapper. We need to talk. I like you and where you're at. I'm starting to think Passionate Storm is probably town, just frustrated and certain a certain someone should be lynched. Based on TAOs reaction (not the overreaction post, that was really rather scummy) and his reads, I think he's probably town as well. Elyse is probably town, too, but I can't truly read her right now. I think her posts are quite anti-town, but perhaps she means well. So that first team proposal was a bit of a wash, but they're still rather bullish and I don't feel comfortable trying to work with any of them right now. I actually would probably feel better if we just lynched the whole lot, (though I won't) their arrogance and overconfidence is distracting, intrusive, and rather anti-town. I guess we all have things to learn.

The Titus potion of PS is showing some of that one's scum meta. That one's truly a horse of a different color when she is being read. In most cases, reading that one is requiring a visit to Bizzarro World. If she's being helpful, is wanting to work with town, and is likeable- one better keep her on a very short leash. After he sleeps and is taking care of a few responsibilities a man is pointing out examples, with analysis of that which he speaks.

TSO is probably town, which is irking a man. That one is brilliant from late D3D4 on and is a valuable town asset who is winning games. Early however, he is tripping over his own feet and doing his best to get in the way of others during the part of the game where those ones are excelling. A man is thought on this quite a bit and is believing the cause of this to be that one's desire to make his early game as strong as his late. But, TSO keeps making the same kinds of choices with the same loud abrasion and expecting different results. Insanity. Because that one isn't having those skill he is running interference from scum with those who can. It's this action of doing scum's dirty work for them that is causing a man to want to lynch him early on. For almost half a game, that one is playing for scum even as town.

A man is still null on Elyse. Well, that's not true. He is seeing some scumminess in that one, but not enough to put her ahead of a few others. Leaning scum to null is where she is in a man's thoughts. If a man's top scum read is in fact flipping scum it is putting her in a better light.

As to Klingon- to what meaning is this one attributing to "atrocious"? The accuracy or the reasoning?

@TSO- because you are good in figuring out the game in late game where a man is not so bright, when you are catching scum buddying one of there scum mates at what stage in the game is that buddying most like to start and how is the dance which is bringing it about going down? Specifically scum on scum. A man is neither doing nor having done to him as scum. As town it is happening plenty, so much so because a man is once quite susceptible to it. A man must needs know to help with a read.

[Dapper Stranger]

That Klingon quote is a ghost. That post is she tended to just that one paragraph and for some reason the whole and the edit d are posting. A man is seeing that isn't going away and is trying to remember to preview every post before posting from here out.

[Dapper Stranger]

Ugh EE post.

[Dapper Stranger]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Cough coaching Cough sorry had something in my throat.

Yes. The inexperienced coaching the seasoned. Yep, that's how that us working. Besides Garmr, scum is having Daychat in the previous games and a man is surprised if the same isn't true here.

I wouldn't exactly call klingon seasoned as scum and if eagle is scum this game his already shown skills at being scum that are better than klings in the past.

I don't know through about day chat I didn't think of that and Through I have seen scum drop fake coaches to put distance when people knew there was day chat. What was the point of a town eagle telling kling how to get out here situation through?

Fair enough. A man is pretty sure Jason is saying somewhere in our last game that he is always giving scum day hat from here out. Either that or a man is confusing him with another mod. A man will try to find it if must needs. To the point, is this one thinking that a lynchable offense over others this day?

[Dapper Stranger]

Eagle, a man is thinking it too early to be trying to work out teams. He is learning the best course is following the evidence to one scum, lynch it, then reevaluate with flips by crossing out those unlikely to be scum with the scum which is flipping. It is narrowing the pool and keeping one away from conf bias.

Spitflop, Errant Parabola, and itlepip are the only ones a man is interested in lynching today. Spiff for the case, Errant for how he is dissecting the case and narrowing it down as if it is but a single point of scummotivation, itlepip because that one is keeping his head down after a few have cast doubt on him. How these are flipping is determining the next course to take. The first is providing the most associations from which to work. Itlepip next. And the EP who has one associative if flipping scum, none if flipping town. A man is preferring the lynch with the most information.

[Dapper Stranger]

Hey, I'm here. TSO talk to me I think you're townish.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

I've tried to pick some things apart and I think I want to vote for Kling again.

[Dapper Stranger]

Oops forgot to sign that last one.

Anyway, Jaqen wants to lynch one of the three listed and I agree on two of those three reads. However I also agree with TWIE. Even if we make a huge case, I don't think votes are going to swing today. I've seen 15 pages of garbage arguing and when Jaqen put a really good argument out there for the Spiff vote, little to no biters.

I don't want to lynch Kling because he's the leading wagon. I'm leaning towards that lynch again after going back and looking at some ISO and seeing that vote on itlepip was kind of just there and had no reasoning and because we sort of have a sour read on itlepip I've got this feeling that it could be some bussing there.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Its been hard for me to be an active head but I'm gonna try to stay around for a few hours today while giving final exams.

Ask me stuff!

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

I replaced into Inorganic Chemistry, so I obviously didn't have an early game there. Is your point that you playing from the start there somehow trumps me not doing so ...?

A man is reading the question wrongly and thought you were asking when a man is mostly correct. 4/5 in Organic D1 is pretty damned good. A man is 4/4 in Trouser God but he isn't remembering you there. A man is 4/5 in Xeno 1 and 2 and 3/5 in Airplane Madness. He's is 2/3 in LotR. You are playing exactly one game where a man is having a bad D1. The one when it is reasonable for him to be rusty after laying off for two years, and it's that one damned game this one is hanging onto. To say your early game is better is rubbish and if you are looking at, truly going back and looking at it, you are seeing this is just so. But you probably won't. That's on you, not a man. And he is saying you are a distraction from scum hunting early game, not that you are distracted. Go back and look at hiw many times you are talking town off a D1 scum lynch because of confidence undeserved. A man is really trying to help you here but is sure this one will just bristle his back, say something snide, and then never do anything to fix what is broken in his game.

[Dapper Stranger]

Passionate storm, Elyse, pip, spiffeh lop, Varsoon, Garmr

Applying TSO AJ , Spider Gwen

Gun to head town TWIE but his lack of content and votes makes me not care if he dies

Need to get invested: Shiro Mohis interest errant, Shiro voting scum is a good sign

Gun to head scum PV

where does varsoon hard townblock town come from?

The fact he isn't mind fucking me.

Vote Klingon?

yeah but he isnt doing a ton of things.

what do you think the point of him faking a restriction is?

A man is thinking, due to conversations we've had in the past, he is trying to bring the levity and fun he is having in yesteryears that he is missing. All the pissing matches, whinging, "nun-uh!~uh-huh!" little kid fights, and the "I'm not going to play with you anymores" are wearing on that one causing him to question why he is still playing.

[Dapper Stranger]

TSO. A man is enjoying playing with you or is avoiding games you are in when possible. Aan is having many games with you. Is a man going through your games to point out specific examples of what aan is noticing something that will help this game or is it something better saved for post game? A man is thinking he is having what is needed to improve the softest part of your game as you are in tightening his own weaknesses and so is glad in having this convo whenever so long as a couple of pages or so of mechanics banter that has nothing to do with this game isn't distracting to everyone else.

As to not regurgitating every read and staying focused on his baseline, a man is trying that out this game as you will note him saying in his ISO.

You are also asking Fresh where we are disagreeing. He is in the Klingon is scum camp. While a man isn't agreeing he is supporting the vote if Fresh is casting it. Other than that, a man is believing we're seeing pretty eye to eye.

[Dapper Stranger]

You can help a man in staying on pushing his top two read by getting on Spitflop, btw.

[Dapper Stranger]

Also Dapper, saw this and thought of you.

A man is pissing his small clothes laughing!

[Dapper Stranger]

Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.

I can see all of these.
My grappy townread has been revoked, and I still see Dappy as sour, since if he's town, bless his heart, he still wouldn't have learned his lesson.
Alchy is a minor sour-read, and while Celty's not anymore a rock-solid scumread, she's the best I have.

Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...

A man is having no reason for believing this one's claim.

[Dapper Stranger]

Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.

I can see all of these.
My grappy townread has been revoked, and I still see Dappy as sour, since if he's town, bless his heart, he still wouldn't have learned his lesson.
Alchy is a minor sour-read, and while Celty's not anymore a rock-solid scumread, she's the best I have.

Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...

A man is having no reason for believing this one's claim.

And by protecting a man is saying this one is lying through her teeth, softing and crumbing one scum's role because it is serving her personal purpose of staying alive while aimultaneously loudly protecting another scum with this one's "meta knowledge"

[Dapper Stranger]

Not this one AJ. A man is referencing a game past as he's sure you are aware

[Dapper Stranger]

I don't want to lynch Kling because he's the leading wagon. I'm leaning towards that lynch again after going back and looking at some ISO and seeing that vote on itlepip was kind of just there and had no reasoning and because we sort of have a sour read on itlepip I've got this feeling that it could be some bussing there.

-Fresh

Could you clarify this? You think I'm busing Itlepip? I am Town. I can't bus anyone.

He clearly called out multiball, then awkwardly backpedaled. He Scum slipped. Because he's Scum.

Unless you're not town. Then you could bus someone.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Ask Fresh how he can reconcile his Klingon scumread with his Spifflop scumread? Does he think it's multiball?

I don't have any reason to believe it is/isn't at the moment. Someone's semi-slip doesn't convince me yet. But IF it is it raises chances of Kling-scum personally.

[Dapper Stranger]

Oh that was me. Damnit I suck at signing.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

If you don't have reason to believe it's multiball, then do you feel it's possible that the two competing wagons on Spiff and Kling are both scum?

Speaking in a general sense, I've never played in a game that wasn't multiball where the two competing wagons were both scum D1. Not impossible but so low probability. We can't be that lucky can we?

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

I just went back to look as I know YCBA3 was not. None of the previous YCBA games had multiball. YCBA2 had a serial killer.

If we weigh past experience into account then I'm more likely to lean towards not being multiball. But I don't want to mod the mod here so I'll leave it at that. Its not out of the question that it could be but signs are pointing me towards not believing it.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

Speaking of which, add grapes to the lurker list. He slipped my mind.

Randomidget?

Not lurking. Ive been posting fairly consistently and haven't been trying to avoid interaction.

This is admittedly true. You can't really accuse him of being a lurker, but you

can

accuse him of so many more things.

Speaking of which, add grapes to the lurker list. He slipped my mind.

Randomidget?

Not lurking. Ive been posting fairly consistently and haven't been trying to avoid interaction.

"Fairly" consistently and you haven't responded to anything I've said to you recently so yes I would say you are avoiding interaction.

Actually, an ISO skim kinda shows midget actually does respond to things you've said.

You ma'am are now on my scumdar.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

That's how I feel. I think in a multi-ball game both are scum. The only thing that's made multi-ball a part of this conversation was that supposed slip. Hence the hesitation.

-Fresh

[Dapper Stranger]

AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.

If a man isn't making it through the night reevaluate this read. He is noting she is likes to be wrong in thread as scum and isn't liking that one's contradictory read on us. A man is giving a specific example if must needs.

[Dapper Stranger]

Well, in the world where you're right on all your reads you'd seem to be the optimum nightkill, so you may as well give the meta example.

A man isn't talking about meta. A man is talking about that one saying a man may be scum while acknowledging he's town.