Blitz 23: Youtube Coordination (Game over)

[AlwaysInnocent]

/confirm town

[AlwaysInnocent]

So Firebringer's town.
New Luna Republic's town.
I am town.
Just need two more and auto-win!

VOTE: Always Innocent.
Never is.

I have never been scum on this site. For reals.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Oh, right. The vote.

VOTE: Ranger

For damaging my reputation.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Are will still aiming for a D1 lynch? (first blitz game for me)

No, we are just throwing around votes for fun.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Last two games I played with Ranger, she was town.

Therefore she is more likely to be scum now!

All thanks to probability theory, which I understood really well.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Last two games I played with Ranger, she was town.

Therefore she is more likely to be scum now!

All thanks to probability theory, which I understood really well.

Gambler's fallacy, but nice try

You were scum in our last game. Therefore you are more likely to be town now. Tell me whether I am right about you. If that is the case, then I am more likely to be right about Ranger as well.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Last two games I played with Ranger, she was town.

Therefore she is more likely to be scum now!

All thanks to probability theory, which I understood really well.

Gambler's fallacy, but nice try

You were scum in our last game. Therefore you are more likely to be town now. Tell me whether I am right about you. If that is the case, then I am more likely to be right about Ranger as well.

For a different reason, but yes.
Being town myself, I take a spot out of the pool, increasing the chances of a Ranger-scum-draw. However, the chance of being a role in any game is not influenced by any prior game's distribution.

Damn. That is a boring answer. I was hoping for some outrage about my use of fallacies.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Oh, sorry.

I mean
"GOD DAMMIT NO!

What are you, some kind of simpleton who knows nothing of simple probabilities!?
What a dumb ass!"

How's that?

Now you overdid it.

So Firebringer's town.
New Luna Republic's town.
I am town.
Just need two more and auto-win!

VOTE: Always Innocent.
Never is.

is this suppose to be a serious post ???? Sorry I am kinda confused by this .....

Why wouldn't it be serious? Are you not serious?

[AlwaysInnocent]

why would it.....

if Ranger knows these people were townies somehow than his role ability would be ridicules OP ......
So either this is a wild guess or Piss made the game extremely unbalanced which I don't see happening

I think she has the rare Super Cop role (you can request two or three townie roles on D1 with this awesome role). It is balanced because it is rare.

What's ridiculous about it?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Lmao AI! XD

You sure like to ruin reaction tests, don't you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

By the way, I agree that it is suspicious that Fuzzy is so concerned about these townreads. Was Ranger's wild guess correct and did he foolishly believe she actually knew that?

[AlwaysInnocent]

It shows scum motivation. Why be so worried about a role being overpowered? If this is your initial response, then that is telling. It seems like he knows that she is correct and then complains about her non-existing Super Cop role being overpowered.

From the town POV, she might very well be full of shit... But he skipped this.

[AlwaysInnocent]

The problem with this setup, however, is: if we lynch him, and he flips scum, then the scum team becomes more powerful. Go figure.

[AlwaysInnocent]

The reason this is not serious is that it was an rvs vote. An rvs is never intended to be serious.

A useful tactic can be to feign seriousness in order to test for reactions. For example, Ranger pretended to be serious. She has not responded yet, but she would have answered "yes" to the question whether she was serious. Of course, she was not, or at least not very. But sometimes people can be fooled (both townies and scum), so that they give themselves away.

At some point, RVS ceases to be RVS, because people start to get serious. It is not always clear when this starts. It often helps to bluff (yes, good townies bluff all the time during RVS) to force the transition to serious voting.

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: Fuzzy

[AlwaysInnocent]

If you were a noon I'd have voted you for this.

Ranger obviously doesn't know these people are town from anything role related. The game would be broken, and I wouldn't have been added after the fact.

This is a very noobscum response, and gets you an FoS.

Again as a more experience player I would know that Piss would not let the game be so unbalanced. I even pointed that out.[/quote]Yes, we get that. The problem with that post, however, was: your initial response to comment on the potential lack of balance in favor of the town.

This

seemed to upset you, or whatever. This is why people view it as a scumtell.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Ugh. Fucked up the quote.

Again as a more experience player I would know that Piss would not let the game be so unbalanced. I even pointed that out.

Yes, we get that. The problem with that post, however, was: your initial response to comment on the potential lack of balance in favor of the town. This seemed to upset you, or whatever. This is why people view it as a scumtell.

[AlwaysInnocent]

But I'm going to give you a chance to explain yourself.

UNVOTE:

[AlwaysInnocent]

It makes sense to question Ranger for her quick reads based on RVS votes.

But the fact that you considered it being because of an overpowered role is concerning.

At first I thought you were newbie scum, but I see that you're more experienced than I thought.

[AlwaysInnocent]

You see... When all you do is post about your experience and how you fucked up without giving any substance material...

This is what happens fuzzy

Is this a reference to a certain movie by any chance?

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Read List 1.1

{AlwaysInnocent}

{Aristophanes}

{Ranger, Luna, Firebringer}

{Sensei}

{Bulbazoor, Fuzzy, Pignash}

[AlwaysInnocent]

Ranger, remember when I complained about your tendency to drop read lists without explanation?

I have stolen your tactic since then. It's awesome. Thank you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

How could me and fuzz be maf? Together?

Bussing.

[AlwaysInnocent]

BY DEATHTUNNEL? AND WITH BWS OON BOTH OF US? Tell me

WIFOM.

[AlwaysInnocent]

That is as good as a confession, my friend.

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Better yet: what is his reason for lurking?

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"Why would I do X when it makes me suspicious?"

That's WIFOM.

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Well, you're at the bottom of my list, so yeah.

[AlwaysInnocent]

No. I'm going to make up my mind before I put anyone in the hammer range.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Me: "Who wants to die?"
Bulbazoor: "Oh! Oh! Pick me! I want to die!"

What are you doing, man?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I am starting to think Bulbazoor is town. Or at least that he is more likely town than Pignash. I don't like Pignash's lurking. At all.

VOTE: Pignash

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: Pignash

If you don't contribute anything, you don't get to hammer. We had plenty of time. Die scum. Die.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Your execution will be brutal. Our vengeance will be great. We will inspire terror in the hearts of scum.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I realized Bulbazoor was town far too late. I didn't have a chance to defend him. Pignash probably realized this and wanted the lynch to be as quick as possible.

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: Pignash

If you don't contribute anything, you don't get to hammer. We had plenty of time. Die scum. Die.

Bad hammer like that is more likely from town IMO.

No, it isn't.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I wanted to search for some funny meme saying "bad dragon".

But I am finding something completely different. I won't be posting it for obvious reasons.

[AlwaysInnocent]

There was an hour left when I checked the thread and discussion had stalled. I am not scum. Move elsewhere.

Alright. I misread that. But still, your hammer was way too convenient.

If you want me to move my vote, you better make a good case against someone. Also, defending yourself would help. You should realize you are in a bad position, even if you are town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI what happened to your scumread on fuzzy?

It has collapsed into a null-read.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Pignash is probably scum...

[AlwaysInnocent]

This game is weird. Normally when I miss 24 hours I am lost almost immediately. It is going very slowly and it's a blitz!

Where are you FB? I want to sort you.

You couldn't sort me if you tried.
I feel like I should vote right now, but Im still unsure, I am honestly null on sensei, but my gut says he is town. Don't know what to do.

Vote Pignash.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@Pig
How do you explain your gameplay this game being similar to Fire and Ice rooms where you were scum??? In both game you seems not to be really trying to keep up with going on

@Ranger
that's nice.... to me that makes you either scum or antitown...Both are lynch options at this point

@Everybody
who are your top two scum reads so far and why

Pignash and Firebringer.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Pignash is probably scum...

Yes.

Sensei's still the second, though.

In this game I will assume you are town, since we agree on so many things.

But if you're scum, I will hate you for the rest of my life.

[AlwaysInnocent]

In 18 minutes you want to move 3 votes?

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VOTE: Pignash

Die.

[AlwaysInnocent]

What's the general thought on self hammering when you aren't scum? I haven't seen it done.

Awful.

[AlwaysInnocent]

BTW. In this situation, self-hammering would have been bad as scum as well, since No Lynch is better than having scum lynched. Self-hammering is only optimal as scum when the lynch is

inevitable

.

So this does not clear Pignash in any way.

[AlwaysInnocent]

So Sensei is scum.

VOTE: Sensei

Which explains why Ranger was killed.

[AlwaysInnocent]

It makes sense that scum-Pignash did not commit the kill. He was the main suspect. Besides, it screwed him over in the last game, so I'm sure he would be against it.

Of course, it is also technically possible that Pignash is town, but let's deal with Sensei first.

[AlwaysInnocent]

BTW. The Motion Detector is not necessarily a small role. If used properly, it is just as powerful as the Tracker.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Hey. What happened to Bulbazoor's flip? I can't find it.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Just tell us what you did last night, or get lynched. It is as simple as that.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I didn't do anything last night. Some one sent me a video like I just said.

Do you know what an MD is?

OK. I assume you're honest about that.

Who sent Sensei the video?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Is MD a role scum is likely to have?

It is possible, if there is already an investigative role for town. If not, then it is more likely a town PR.

Is it a good one to fake claim?

No. Fakeclaiming MD is terrible.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Wait, how are there 6 players alive?

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Oh, right. The No Lynch. Never mind.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Pretty sure it's mylo luna.

Pretty sure it's not.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Ugh. You're right. I see it now.

UNVOTE: Sensei

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I also highly doubt whoever sent that thing to me is gonna claim they did. It's a troll video about ramen noodles or w/e.
Probably scum having a laugh because of how pitiful and apathetic this town is. I mean ffs we no lynched? How does that even happen?
Like I'm almost ashamed to be a part of this game.

I just wanted to hear that from you. You're pretty much cleared.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Has anyone else been getting these video taunts, or messages?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Fire..... I don't understand,,,,,, why dismiss the claim off hand..instead of pushing Luna and seeing if she is not fake claim?????

You can't be serious.

Fakeclaiming only works when there is no-one to refute it.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Alawys..I am replying to Fire post 261 ..he seems to want to dismiss Luna claim..... I am trying figure out why he would do this..so please don't answer for other players

btw...I am pretty sure luna is not fake claiming

Sorry, my bad. I understand now.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Fuzzy is town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

This is how I feel right now

Read List 3.1

{AlwaysInnocent}

{Fuzzy, Luna}

{Sensei}

{Pignash, Firebringer}

[AlwaysInnocent]

This is how I feel right now

Read List 3.1

{AlwaysInnocent}

{Fuzzy, Luna}

{Sensei}

{Pignash, Firebringer}

I think you are a little less town than this.

No. I'm super town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Why aren't you voting me or pignash?
VOTE: Sensei

MYLO.

This means that there are situations in which scum can quickhammer. I still need to think about it some more.

I remember you voted without consensus in LYLO in Blitz 11, which allowed scum to quickhammer. I recommend that you do not repeat the same mistake again if you are town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I didn't receive a video.

I think videos are being sent. Bulbazoor had that ability.

[AlwaysInnocent]

So basically we are looking right now for scum with bad taste in videos.

This is the kind of video I would send if I were scum (it is hilarious):

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Fuzzy, it is MYLO. Be careful with your votes. Just saying. I know we should vote on time, but I think it's a bit too early.

Fuzzy and Luna are town. I am town.

Sensei could be town, but he could be bluffing, I guess. However, there are a few things that make me doubt this possibility.

[AlwaysInnocent]

4 hours since putting Fire at 2 votes, long enough to say he is confscum?

Unless scum is voting for him. I think Firebringer is scummy, but it is a bit of a stretch to suggest he is confirmed scum at this point. We do not have such confirmation.

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: Pignash

[AlwaysInnocent]

Since it's MYLO, it's not that bad actually.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Everyone thinks Fuzzy is town. That is weirding me out.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Let me take of that for ya.

VOTE: Firebringer

Cool.
I hope I get lynched. If you are town you deserve this lose.

This seems like a genuine "ha, you suck" response, but you could fake it if you wanted to.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Everyone thinks Fuzzy is town. That is weirding me out.

Why would that weird you out?

Make a guess.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Make a guess.

You think he is scum?

I'm not saying that per se, but I think we should be a little more careful. If everyone agrees, then scum is agreeing as well.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Wait. I was lynched?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Omg. Firebringer. Not again. You always let scum quickhammer.