RVS
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:40 pm
It actually seems RVS is really disliked here. It's actually honestly one of my favorite game periods along with day 1 being my favorite day. Personally, I've never actually used RVS outside this site, so all my experience is from here. However, I can safely say that when there was no RVS, it was extremely boring. People were just shitposting, and then eventually we all got serious. Once we were serious, it was just even more boring. Questions, just general thoughts, a bit of scumhunting. It wasn't until someone said something scummy or a huge argument happened in which anything good happened. It also didn't help anything game wise without RVS. Probably from a biased perspective here, but RVS just seems so good in so many ways.
As an enjoyment factor, RVS actually is pretty enjoyable. Even someone as toxic and a salt cesspool in general, I still have to comment that RVS provides great ways to introduce yourself to someone you've never played with before, and it showcases a bit of your personality to the rest of the game in an early post. It's also a nice way to joke around with friends for a little bit, and it's just better than completely boring and stale shitposting. If enjoyment is a major for you since you play mafia for just that reason, RVS isn't part of the problem.
Now let's actually get into game-state. Game-state wise, it actually is detriment to my reads. I use RVS to gauge people's personalities, as previously mentioned. If I can get a feel for someone, their personality, their playstyle, I can effectively read them often. I won't give a percent because it'll either make my point not go through, or it'll make me look like the egotistical asshole I am. On a serious note, being able to get a true feel for someone, it's much easier to be able to read them. I look for tone, and the underlying meaning. Being able to gauge people really helps with this, especially when it comes to tone. If I can figure out whether someone's a VI, (and when I say this, I mean no offense) I can see that some silly posts they may say actually come from their normal townset. Not naming any specific games, but a few players might have known my very outright and firm reads on controversial players. Tone is much more consistent than taking buzzwords, and then using them to identify what is scummy and what isn't. I'll get into that later, but yeah, very useful for me early game.
There's also the fact that your scumreads are better D1 than any other day. You can try and argue this with me, but some would say "I'm married to this idea." It simply is. There is no need for discussion there. When you're getting a feel for someone, and you detect something that really pings you as off, you call it out day 1. Due to the amount of information that's causing confirmed biases later on in the day, you're not going to feel as strongly as something whereas you will day 1. Same applies to gutreads and the such as well. I've seen multiple RVS pickups that we're scummy, and they were true. The same can be said of mislynches, but I feel it's much more often that you get a good lynch off someone if you pick them up during RVS, and you're not basing it off bullshit reasoning. This is coming only from a personal experience and perspective. I could easily be wrong on that information, but the content I'm providing is still the same. RVS just gives you those good or bad vibes on posts that you really get no where else.
In general, it's just a much more efficient way of getting into a game. It's the general ice-breaker that allows you to get a feel for someone and to be able to play successfully later on. When people take this opportunity for granted, they don't realize the amount of information they're throwing away. Just a little thing to consider when you're starting a game.
As an enjoyment factor, RVS actually is pretty enjoyable. Even someone as toxic and a salt cesspool in general, I still have to comment that RVS provides great ways to introduce yourself to someone you've never played with before, and it showcases a bit of your personality to the rest of the game in an early post. It's also a nice way to joke around with friends for a little bit, and it's just better than completely boring and stale shitposting. If enjoyment is a major for you since you play mafia for just that reason, RVS isn't part of the problem.
Now let's actually get into game-state. Game-state wise, it actually is detriment to my reads. I use RVS to gauge people's personalities, as previously mentioned. If I can get a feel for someone, their personality, their playstyle, I can effectively read them often. I won't give a percent because it'll either make my point not go through, or it'll make me look like the egotistical asshole I am. On a serious note, being able to get a true feel for someone, it's much easier to be able to read them. I look for tone, and the underlying meaning. Being able to gauge people really helps with this, especially when it comes to tone. If I can figure out whether someone's a VI, (and when I say this, I mean no offense) I can see that some silly posts they may say actually come from their normal townset. Not naming any specific games, but a few players might have known my very outright and firm reads on controversial players. Tone is much more consistent than taking buzzwords, and then using them to identify what is scummy and what isn't. I'll get into that later, but yeah, very useful for me early game.
There's also the fact that your scumreads are better D1 than any other day. You can try and argue this with me, but some would say "I'm married to this idea." It simply is. There is no need for discussion there. When you're getting a feel for someone, and you detect something that really pings you as off, you call it out day 1. Due to the amount of information that's causing confirmed biases later on in the day, you're not going to feel as strongly as something whereas you will day 1. Same applies to gutreads and the such as well. I've seen multiple RVS pickups that we're scummy, and they were true. The same can be said of mislynches, but I feel it's much more often that you get a good lynch off someone if you pick them up during RVS, and you're not basing it off bullshit reasoning. This is coming only from a personal experience and perspective. I could easily be wrong on that information, but the content I'm providing is still the same. RVS just gives you those good or bad vibes on posts that you really get no where else.
In general, it's just a much more efficient way of getting into a game. It's the general ice-breaker that allows you to get a feel for someone and to be able to play successfully later on. When people take this opportunity for granted, they don't realize the amount of information they're throwing away. Just a little thing to consider when you're starting a game.