Mini 1778 — BuzzFeed UPick Mafia — Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

Y u do dis Hiplop.

[RadiantCowbells]

Y u do dis Hiplop.

do what? CATCH SCUM?!?!?!?!?!

This feels exaggerated.

VOTE: Hiplop

Good enough for now!

[RadiantCowbells]

My conclusion thus far is that Nahdia is probs town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am very sad about this.

[RadiantCowbells]

As if I would lie to you

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia is scaring me

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm sketched out by the people voting Nahdia when she can't directly fight back.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Clumsy

The post in general felt weird as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

Walk me through why you don't like 37?

[RadiantCowbells]

What's Kuribo's PR and how is it a town PR?

[RadiantCowbells]

because you said it very differently and in a different context.

it's not about WHAT you said it's about HOW it was said.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah the lurking needs to stop.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think Maestro and Nahdia are both town as of now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Still think Clumsy is scum.
Strongly suspect that Broseidon is scum as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like the whole making a show of voting, unvoting because L-1, then jumping on this shiny new Nahdia vs Maestro fight just feels horrible and like scumbuddy-scumbuddy interaction.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Broseidon

Let's start here.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why haven't you pledged allegiance to me yet?

[RadiantCowbells]

This is a super uncomfortable situation for me to be in right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think Marquis was trying to make a point to me assigning me the role and it's a point well taken.

[RadiantCowbells]

my reaction is that you're basically claiming scum in thread atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

But you're scum and you're pushing me to look into it which probably means that I don't need to look into it!

[RadiantCowbells]

I meanif you did something that made me reconsider but literally post after post is making me more and more sure that you're scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think I can actually do anything to make you not-scumread me but w/e.

Oh, you can, but you don't do so by blatantly trying to manipulate the gamestate and spin focus away from someone that you have already expressed a scumread on.

[RadiantCowbells]

Possiby at least one scum among Spiffeh, BRO, or Hiplop. Need to see more out of this interaction.

At least one scum among kuroi, Trollie, Aristo, and Parabola. First one of this group to wow me gets free town cred. Loser gets tunneled. Let's see what you got.

Nahdia still probtown, not sure yet about Cow. 50/50 on Maestro.

If I haven't mentioned you, it's because you've managed to go six pages without catching my gaze. That's not a good thing.

We're not going for the lurker group today unless Broseidon somehow manages to convince me that he's town, but he's bleeding scum intent all over the thread.

[RadiantCowbells]

147 is basically a scumclaim.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC please finish this sentence: "If kuribo swore loyalty to me I would feel ________."

Please explain your reasoning as well.

Mostly happy because 1) something useful might happen in neighbour chat which stagnated when Maestro joined and 2) it gives me another vote to lynch scum with.

[RadiantCowbells]

No you're not.

be obvtown if you want to call yourself obvtown.

[RadiantCowbells]

Bro/hiplop/Clumsy?

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia offered to claim but I asked her not to because we don't know who will end up in the thread.

Nothing from Maestro.

[RadiantCowbells]

I wouldn't townread Maestro if Broseidon weren't obvscum.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's for me to know and you to find out.

I'm going to sit back and watch what people do for a while and keep my cases contained in neighbour chat till I'm more ready to end the day.

Ie, I usually find bro scummy and I'm trying to push that aside for now

As of now I have never misread Broseidon.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's for me to know and you to find out.

That's stupid

I don't want to centralize the discussion around my Broseidon read this early in the day.

Go do your things.

[RadiantCowbells]

Never misread him out of how many games?

I've never misread DGB over nine years but even I can't read her on day 1.

I can make a long list of games where I had the scumteam called on day 1.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're missing my point.
I'm doing what I'm doing because I don't want us to be playing RC mafia.
I have 3 votes and just my general playstyle lends towards the game being heavily centralized around what my interests are.
I want to stay out of things and sort people with my neighbours and let you guys do your thing.
Me hard pushing wagons at this stage of the game, even if they hit scum, doesn't give us much to work with in the future.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not disagreeing.

How often do I actually claim to have caught the scumteam though?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Pisskop

fucker can get out of this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

We had already discussed that in PQ for the record.

[RadiantCowbells]

Modkill a scum player in return?

It's only fair!

[RadiantCowbells]

So no replacement is necessary.

you don't say?

[RadiantCowbells]

Maestro read neighbour chat.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright there's no content coming out.

VOTE: Broseidon

Just lynch this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Neighbourhoods exist for a reason D:

[RadiantCowbells]

Becaues Clumsy will get lynched and Bro may not.

[RadiantCowbells]

well Bro is scum independent of the interaction which is terrible.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I can go ahead and share it but I want more from Maestro in neighbourhood before I do.

[RadiantCowbells]

I agree it's outside of my norm.

Don't you dare scumread me for it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm gonna tell you not to scumread me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Either do some scumhunting or vote Sobreidon.

[RadiantCowbells]

Only RC has the RC-ness necessary inherent in being able to play RC mafia you scumlord.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia is town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia is basically confirmed town based on her play in hood.

If you ever lynch her after I die I will be super salty.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia, let's make a deal.

I will correctly lynch all 3 scum in a row and you will continually pledge allegiance to me.

Deal?

[RadiantCowbells]

There is nothing going on in thread.

I am probably going to post my Broseidon case tomorrow and then we'll lynch him since town doesn't seem invested at this potin.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia's currently voting scum tho.

[RadiantCowbells]

Kuroi my man!

What are your reads on, say, Broseidon and Clumsy?

[RadiantCowbells]

How about clumsy?

Why aren't you a big fan of him?

[RadiantCowbells]

RC mafia leads to town winz.
unlike some variants of mafia.
Nahdia can verify that I have for a long time had a developed towncase on her as well as a scumcase on you. I'm just keeping stuff to myself to watch the gamestate develop.

[RadiantCowbells]

I still think Nahdia is town, but it's not for "reasons that nobody else has access to trolololololol"

You should really just give up.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yup. Performer / Heat are both beyond terrible players consistently.

[RadiantCowbells]

Heat even saw me get into a long fight after a previous game about the fact that I would never allow my crumb to be misinterpreted.

You not getting lynched is sad.

Ranger getting lynched is blasphemous.

[RadiantCowbells]

Anyways, score is going to be rectified here.

[quote]That's revenge for that NY game where you got a cop-inno lynched in LyLo to win it.

We're even![/quote[

These are totally different games sadly.
I don't think that I'm being salty when I say that you won because town just blatantly played like idiots.
But, whatevs.

[RadiantCowbells]

Thsi game will be justice.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm more touchy about ranger getting lynched than anything.

For some reason it feels like Ranger just always gets lynched and she's always obvtown and I'm like ??? wtf just happened, every single game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I was in a blitz game where we literally had a confirmed guilty on someone and town for some reason decided to lynch Ranger instead and I'm like wtf are you on?

[RadiantCowbells]

When intelligence is a scumtell Ranger is confscum I guess.

[RadiantCowbells]

hey I'm drunk too.

[RadiantCowbells]

No you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean we can all play the sheep RC game and just lynch Broseidon.

I keep being like 'fuck this is stagnating i'm just gonna post my case' then I'm like 'fuck it I'll wait.' and nothing 's happened.

I can just go ahead and we can lynch Broseidon.

[RadiantCowbells]

Selling you is useless because I already have your vote. jeez.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, part of me wants to replace out because playing RC-mafia is just super aggravating when I'm not trying to abuse it as scum, and the rest of this game I really don't want to play with.

But you've never been scum with me playing RC mafia before this.

[RadiantCowbells]

'This could maybe be a scumslip?'

I wouldn't be deathtunneling you here if you hadn't made it blatantly obvious you were le scumz.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's because scum, trust.

[RadiantCowbells]

So what are you asking me to do, just blow my load and get your lynch over with?

I can do that.

I'm trying to watch how other people interact with you in this period and let Clumsy continue to tie himself to you. That means not sharing my case.

If it's causing you undue stress I can just go ahead with things though!

[RadiantCowbells]

I've written several paragraphs of reasons to scumread you, just because I haven't shared them with the class.

I'm about to make your role claim public if you don't mind.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like all you've fucking done this game is post read-lists and troll me. It's fucking vile, and I literally hope you fall down the stairs and break your spine so that you can't fucking play mafia anymore.

Or do anything else.

And you fucking grow to hate life because you're such a massive fucking cunt.

Replace me please

Not playing with this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Officially unreplacing

UNVOTE:

Replacing

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm going to take a 24 hour break from this game and when I get back I'll see where I stand.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm just going to go ahead and post what I've done with regards to my case on Broseidon.

Obviously you can't answer for him but it'll give you a better idea of where I'm coming from.

[RadiantCowbells]

Go ahead and don't claim at this time.

I don't think we're lynching your slot atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, don't really need more pledging atm.

Scumhuntings is good though.

[RadiantCowbells]

I could vote Gamma I guess.

[RadiantCowbells]

pdodge. grats on listmod status.

sorta waiting for Ranger to catch up so I can read that slot and also waiting on a reread of my own.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm mostly just waiting for ranger to catch up atm then I'll share what I hvae.

[RadiantCowbells]

I can see the similarities, but I think the best reason I have for Clumsy being scum is how he's forming his scumreads, as I think that the way he's doing it seems a lot more like how scum would search for things to scumread rather than how I think most people as town read through the game and go after what jumps out at them.

I do also think that Clumsy's town feeeeels slightly worse than kurio's somehow but I don't think I'm going to be able to explain it in any way that would be more meaningful than me just saying 'lol, gut'.

How do you feel about the hood?

[RadiantCowbells]

I can't wait for you to finish it

[RadiantCowbells]

wtf is that Kuroi?

What are you afraid of?

[RadiantCowbells]

That does make sense, yeah.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you don't I'm gonna lynch you

oh wait I can't since Kuroi unvoted.

[RadiantCowbells]

D:

D:

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd like to roll lyncher on you someday.
That would be about as hard as like
I actually can't think of anything that easy.

[RadiantCowbells]

list of people who clearly have a crush on nahdia:

KuroiXHF

[RadiantCowbells]

>.>

[RadiantCowbells]

Bro is my mason buddy he says.

Oh but we're not really masons, his alignment is unconfirmed.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm pretty sure I'm lynching Ranger today again.

[RadiantCowbells]

Just a few of the big things while I work on making it into a comprehensive case:

1) Associatives with Clusmy slot.

In #66, he votes clumsy but in #67 he immediately unvotes saying wait that's L-1.
The time between that post is 1 minute. I find it difficult to believe he placed the vote, checked it,
So if he was thinking the dude was scum he'd follow up on it once no longer L-1 right? WRONG.
He hasn't brought up or addressed the Clumsy slot sinec.
And the other thing that's fuckign ridiculous is that the clumsy wagon pushers all pushed a Clumsy/Bro scumteam idea and voted him.
If he were town, he'd immediately flip his shit and be worried that we were Clumsy scumpartners trying to lynch him to town Clumsy by association.
But instead he goes from vote to vote looking for the next shiny thing and parks on Maestro.

For Clumsy's part, he KEEPS asking me about my Broseidon vote without pushing any sort of agenda from it.
It feels extremely scumbuddyish

2) Not looking for scum intent.

Why do you dislike RC's post and like kuribo's? I'm inclined to like them both (both making a good point), and they both have PRs that are ~probably~ town PRs.

Way too quick to write me off as town.
This will be especially important when I can follow up on it more later.

He crumbed it to me and it's probably town.

Because it's a really, really fucking dumb PR when it's scum.

Way too quick to assume that shit is town.

Gamma I don't think you understand how I play.

Assuming lack of understanding over scum intent immediately.
No explanation for the Maestro scumread, for the record, he just jumps right on.

I want to talk to RC about the Maestro/Nahdia stuff b/c his reaction to it was like "naw it's fine" even though there's some stuff there that clearly indicates that *something* is up.

Like what the fuck?
I AM THE ONE IN HERE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
I AM THE ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SAID TO EACH OTHER.

This feels so fucking scum intent trying to get traction on a wagon so he can get Maestro lynched and NK me.
I really don't like this.

Like, you're calling it "manipulating the gamestate," I call it "doing things."

This is so not how town would answer this.
Like, this is basically agreeing that he's manipulating the gamestate but spinning it.

Everyone should consider a pledge to RC a vote for me at this point b/c RC's a dick.

And this is a holy grail of bad.

What is he making a point about? That town players shouldn't pledge me because I'll vote Broseidon?
Why isn't he saying anything about, say, scum pledging me to get that lynch through to defend Maestro?
Like this feels incredibly like someone who is talking to town and knows that they are talking to town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and

VOTE: Marquis

They seem like the kind of moderator who would reveal people's alignments if we lynched the mod!

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll get into the posturey shit later because there's more to add since I wrote the case.

[RadiantCowbells]

Just a few of the big things while I work on making it into a comprehensive case:

1) Associatives with Clusmy slot.

In #66, he votes clumsy but in #67 he immediately unvotes saying wait that's L-1.
The time between that post is 1 minute. I find it difficult to believe he placed the vote, checked it,
So if he was thinking the dude was scum he'd follow up on it once no longer L-1 right? WRONG.
He hasn't brought up or addressed the Clumsy slot sinec.
And the other thing that's fuckign ridiculous is that the clumsy wagon pushers all pushed a Clumsy/Bro scumteam idea and voted him.
If he were town, he'd immediately flip his shit and be worried that we were Clumsy scumpartners trying to lynch him to town Clumsy by association.
But instead he goes from vote to vote looking for the next shiny thing and parks on Maestro.

For Clumsy's part, he KEEPS asking me about my Broseidon vote without pushing any sort of agenda from it.
It feels extremely scumbuddyish

2) Not looking for scum intent.

Why do you dislike RC's post and like kuribo's? I'm inclined to like them both (both making a good point), and they both have PRs that are ~probably~ town PRs.

Way too quick to write me off as town.
This will be especially important when I can follow up on it more later.

He crumbed it to me and it's probably town.

Because it's a really, really fucking dumb PR when it's scum.

Way too quick to assume that shit is town.

Gamma I don't think you understand how I play.

Assuming lack of understanding over scum intent immediately.
No explanation for the Maestro scumread, for the record, he just jumps right on.

I want to talk to RC about the Maestro/Nahdia stuff b/c his reaction to it was like "naw it's fine" even though there's some stuff there that clearly indicates that *something* is up.

Like what the fuck?
I AM THE ONE IN HERE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
I AM THE ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SAID TO EACH OTHER.

This feels so fucking scum intent trying to get traction on a wagon so he can get Maestro lynched and NK me.
I really don't like this.

Like, you're calling it "manipulating the gamestate," I call it "doing things."

This is so not how town would answer this.
Like, this is basically agreeing that he's manipulating the gamestate but spinning it.

Everyone should consider a pledge to RC a vote for me at this point b/c RC's a dick.

And this is a holy grail of bad.

What is he making a point about? That town players shouldn't pledge me because I'll vote Broseidon?
Why isn't he saying anything about, say, scum pledging me to get that lynch through to defend Maestro?
Like this feels incredibly like someone who is talking to town and knows that they are talking to town.

...*facepalm*

[RadiantCowbells]

just replace me

apparently I can't help being a moron whenever people are pushing me to do things.

[RadiantCowbells]

Everyone knows town lost because I had to be replaced =[
But yeah guys. I had Bro/Clumsy pinned on page 6.
You should do a lot less of doing your own thing and a lot more sheeping me.
And a lot less fakeclaiming masons with scum, OK Errant?

[RadiantCowbells]

Errant claimed masons with scum.
That's not scum playing well that's just him thinking his setup spec is better than my reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

Two town defended two mafia who were caught early. bleh.

Ranger's PT shows we had Clumsy and BRO very quick :\\\

gg guys. i guess. kinda.

Eh, I mean I do think its a wonky design choice.

When Clumsy refused to shoot aristophanes it became obvious, but obviously that was endgame.

Basically I had a role that could

only shoot town

...

But I had them both called as scum early day 1.

So maybe you're just not as good as you think you are?

[RadiantCowbells]

Anyway, I'm done being salty about my reads being ignored. It's happened here it'll happen again.

GG Ranger.

[RadiantCowbells]

=)

[RadiantCowbells]

If you didn't try to have a dick waving contest with me at every possible opportunity I wouldn't keep showing that mine's bigger.

[RadiantCowbells]

And I wouldn't even care about that if you were nicer to people who need you to be nice to them.

[RadiantCowbells]

You hit me when I'm down, I hit you when you're down.

And in case you hadn't notice I was in this game!

[RadiantCowbells]

Ranger could vote any townie and basically ensure autowin.

[RadiantCowbells]

ranger votes townie.

confscum in the two of them.

one of them will get lynched.

TECHNICALLY town could still have won but it's not realistically happening.

[RadiantCowbells]

I wasn't referring to me?

[RadiantCowbells]

No one this game because the person I'm referring to clearly wasn't in this game?

[RadiantCowbells]

Technically it doesn't matter which slot.

But you all should follow my lead more </3

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's just call it an RC win and everyone else can draw.

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's just call it an RC win and everyone else can draw.

and hiplop ftr I don't believe that you don't know why I'm pissed at you
but if you feel you need it put into words I can explain at unspecified future date.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh I was convincing.

I just got myself force replaced in the process

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahdia you need to fight KTS for your title

[RadiantCowbells]

It's clearly my title

there you have it nahdia.

[RadiantCowbells]

KTS is posting in all my games after they finish.

I think he's a real contender for your title as my biggest fan.

[RadiantCowbells]

GG Ranger.

Admit it, you've done worse to me. <3

But yeah.

We really didn't earn this win.

I didn't technically

lose

this game though!

I'm more annoyed because everyone totally forgot everything I'd said when I was gone =\

[RadiantCowbells]

Before i read anything, broseidon and i are informed mason lovers.
I suggest you unvote.
I also suggest you keep this to within the hood, be discreet about it if you believe the claim.
If we die, I assume you know how to take that information.

really can't get over EP fakeclaiming masons with unconfirmed alignment.
he really doesn't seem like the type to do something like that.

[RadiantCowbells]

*shrug*
your comments are about 40% of the reason I'm quitting mafia.
I hope your win was worth it.

[RadiantCowbells]

because I correctly pinned you and your partner as scum?

what a fucking awful passive aggressive human being I am.

[RadiantCowbells]

mafia's painful and sad not wrth it imo.