New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Kop]

Your saviour is here. Allow me to catch up a bit or get the jist of where things are.

Hello ETL, if I make it to lylo, I won't be voting for a no lynch, unlike in blitz

Nahdia, nice to be back in with you again.

[Kop]

Your saviour is here. Allow me to catch up a bit or get the jist of where things are.

Hello ETL, if I make it to lylo, I won't be voting for a no lynch, unlike in blitz

Nahdia, nice to be back in with you again.

are u town? if so, just sit back and relax. i'll carry u to another ez win ^_~

I'm town.

[Kop]

Persivul is SCUM

persivul is town if you couldnt tell

One is simple.

Are you actually going to provide these reasons, or just going to ramble a load of letters together and just post it, and hope someone blindly follows you?

[Kop]

Investigations should be on the people who would reveal the most if their alignment is known.

No, investigations should be on people who could do most damage as scum and who are best able to appear townie as scum. That's experienced people. Newbies can be sorted later.

Investigations should be used on people who you think are scummy, not just the vets.

Yes, vets can be more dangerous when scum, but if someone is scummy, I'd rather them checked, than potentially lynch them due to them acting scummy and turn out town.

[Kop]

Yes, vets can be more dangerous when scum, but if someone is scummy, I'd rather them checked, than potentially lynch them due to them acting scummy and turn out town.

So you investigate a scummy newbie. The scummy newbie comes back as town. The newbie gets wagoned. As cop, you out yourself just to save one scummy newbie early in a large.

That's really bad.

No, it's not bad. You just think it's bad. Investigate a vet, he turns town, you lynch a scummy newbie, shows as town, you investigate another vet, he shows as town.

Scum will kill vets, rather than scummy newbies. You don't have to come out and fully claim a cop role if you got a town. There are other ways of doing things that doesn't make you come out with your role and why that person should not be lynched.

[Kop]

Sort of back.

Can someone summarize the most important things which have happened on the last about 25 pages?

There has been a lot of votes on you, your on the verge of being lynched.

Do you have any answer back to that?

[Kop]

lets go VOTE: killthestory

[Kop]

VOTE: shotty

If and when shotty flips scum, we can lynch his partner, zakk.

[Kop]

VOTE: shotty

If and when shotty flips scum, we can lynch his partner, zakk.

You are aware there's a wagon on Zakk?

I am half aware there is a wagon. But right now I just feel that's it's more of a pressure wagon that will probably disintegrate.

I however feel shotty Is the best wagon that will paint a picture better than zakk. On the off chance zakk is town then it is obviously pointing harder towards shotty but we can't afford to drop numbers over night.

[Kop]

VOTE: cytheflyguy

I think this is scum. Looked through his ISO and I can't get a read that says town. And that vote seems more opportunistic than a genuine vote.

[Kop]

He can't disagree with it, yes that may rain true, but he hasn't offered anything to put further that case other than what anen said. Or offered any questions that he may have.

[Kop]

Ok, doe, as of NOW I am going to try to take this game seriously lol.

I only have one real reason why I'm voting Titus, but I feel it's an important one: She is too much in a leadership position for two people to be killed by non town to kill her.

The only way I can reasonably see that she is town is if someone attacked her, but they were either roleblocked, she had a bulletproof vest on, or the doctor healed her.

Wait-oh.
There were THREE Nightkills. More than enough for a Night.
The bolded part suggests that you actually

know

about a fourth Nightkill which went to Titus and it's missing now.
WTF?!

You're misinterpreting what I was saying lmao. I said

if

. Like, how can she be a powerful town player and someone not try to kill her? That just doesn't seem right imo.

This is all WIFOM. Proven case if a claimed PR doesn't die, why is it still alive, it must be scum trying to survive. He's doing the same here in regards to Titus.

Doesn't matter how powerful a player is, that doesn't mean they will be killed because off of that.

[Kop]

I'm not presuming multiball.

But you sure are posting about it and what would be "likely" in such cases instead of pushing your scum-reads, another entertaining mind exercise?

The lack of a wagon on you is a product of you being nr2 or nr3 scum on those that want your scalp (Anen literally just moved from you to PM after his latest posts), your narrative is ridiculous.

And yes, working in tandem and buddying up with someone you have otherwise had little dialogue with is suspicious, plus those are not similar reads, they are the same plus expe (who not only wanted Nahdia vigged, he also rightfully didn't like your attitude during the Persi wagon one bit).

literally posted about it twice. I don't push my scum reads very often. Town usually end up consolidating a wagon after 4 (5 with titus) people express a scumread on a slot instead of chasing vanity wagons.

As to the similarity with Nahdia's reads, I developed the majority of them D1 and they haven't changed that much since, only additions have been made.

And why don't you push your scum reads?

[Kop]

Titus and Kop were added within the last hour man

Yep, Titus's line of questioning is getting dangerous.

@Kop
Cythefly's logic is flawed but it's a level 0 newbie argument: player a) is vocal and gets his lynch, player a) stays alive, ergo player a) is scum or was protected, while bad theory-wise as you have all mentioned I fail to see why it's scummy, unless you go back to my point that he may be touting the party (i.e. scum) line about framing Titus in a very clumsy manner, but

that would require first that we know Titus is being framed so there are much more likely scum candidates out there like the player you are currently interacting with

.

I'm a bit tipsy, and my brain is not functioning as it should. Could you explain what you mean with that statement?

[Kop]

I mean that Nos being scum doesn't require you to assume Titus is town and scum decided to leave her alive to draw heat because of her incorrect reads yesterday, you just need to read Nos's posts and think of the most likely motivation behind them.

And that's what cytheflyguy guy is doing, well that's what am seeing anyway.

More than enough to convince me that's where my vote should be.

It would be either cytheflyguy or nos that would be getting my vote

[Kop]

I've not really given the game full attention.
But I need a read back. Will do it tomorrow.

[Kop]

Nice little wagon forming on me here.

Whilst yeah I haven't really been playing serious attention to this game, it's quite surprising that the flow has changed quite a lot since turn of the new day. We have gone from a wagon forming on copper, to Titus, then to me. I agree in total with the wagon because my ISO and seths doesn't look good but I can't say anything in regards to the game play that seth dictated whilst he was in the game.

I still stand by that scum lies in nos or cytheflyguy. So with that said, that's where my vote is staying. It'll be either on one of them. I'm not compromising.

[Kop]

What about Copper & Zakk? You townread them?

I haven't read over there isos properly to get a good read on them. Hence why I haven't voted for then. I'm voting for the people I think are scum.

[Kop]

And nos isn't chasing his scum reads apart from saying welcome to my scum list. Have you mentioned him yet?

[Kop]

I haven't really gone through the entire game, so only playing where I joined. I don't really have a great deal of time to read the pages before I joined in, which is 87 pages. So I'm forming from then on. Hence the reason I don't have many scum reads or it appears lacking.

Right now, I want my focus on the 2 I mentioned when I get a good run of time to myself I will push harder.

[Kop]

Up to now. Cytheflyguy got my attention for the manner that he tried to frame and put WIFOM on how Titus remained alive. I've seen scum try use these tactics to try form a wagon on a town, without looking bad in the process. Titus may be a strong player, but them remaining alive could be down to this tactic.

Nos I am scum reading because it's all fine and we'll having scum reads, but if you don't chase them, it really isn't a town mindset because as town, you want to find scum. It strikes me that he won't chase these reads because it would prevent him incriminating himself somewhere down the line. Why would you sit on your hands and just throw out the line of welcome to my scum pile but I'm going to do nothing about it.

[Kop]

At work atm so got a spare 2 minutes.

Lets put a stop to this waste of time wagon. I am a 2 shot commuter. I did not commute last night.