Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[Katsuki]

EZ

VOTE: SPIFFEH

[Katsuki]

drawing request: a bunch of sad, terrible squirrels

SCUMBUDDY #1

[Katsuki]

HAI SPIFFEH

[Katsuki]

all squirrels look the same to me...

wow

[Katsuki]

My proposal is to take out all the squirrelcists!

[Katsuki]

Hi

Scum claim
VOTE: Spiffeh

whats ur defense to this btw spiff?

[Katsuki]

This playerbase is too awesome to be inactive. Hopefully no ones been lurking D:

[Katsuki]

why meh?

[Katsuki]

LOL raging RC

[Katsuki]

gg wp

i was trying to figure out what milan was

[Katsuki]

Why are you busy wallposting when you can come chat?

[Katsuki]

Can anyone tell me what happened to Kikkop?

In the meantime

VOTE: NINA

[Katsuki]

I agree!!!

Oh the other hand I am utterly uncharismatic

game is hard

[Katsuki]

Mod can we get a vote count please

Do you need another one on this page?

Yes.

New drawing though please!

[Katsuki]

!

[Katsuki]

oh right tsq is katsuki now.

yeah i'd lynch katsuki too.

What why?

[Katsuki]

also kats, tsq was my strongest scumread and i rly rly don't wanna lynch you but you totally look like a scumbum rn

: (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

I can get scumreading shea but why me?

[Katsuki]

Anyways where I'm at right now, I don't want to see TBG, UTL, lalala, nahdia or spiffeh lynched today. spiffeh didn't address my issue with him earlier tho so maybe I can be sold on him for being a butt.

Like TBG, and I have my own thoughts surrounding ranger's claim. Don't really care for her posting last page.

VOTE: RANGER

[Katsuki]

292o2 fuck you all youre all bitches you can all die in hell

anyone who thinkcs i am scum can die in hell

[Katsuki]

I've been incredibly hungover today and still feeling nauseous. Hopefully tomorrow.

[Katsuki]

No.

I do need someone to give me a summary of this game though. I don't have the motivation to catch up and I was p fucked up over the weekend

[Katsuki]

Aside from that being a terrible vote, why am I scum?

[Katsuki]

hm reading this post you sound just
so reasonable and it makes me seem
so UNREASONABLE
prolly cos i am but eh
grrraarrrrrrrrrrrr

Well duh? You're calling me scum of all people.

[Katsuki]

I've been incredibly hungover today and still feeling nauseous. Hopefully tomorrow.

scumbae :[

:[

No.

I do need someone to give me a summary of this game though. I don't have the motivation to catch up and I was p fucked up over the weekend

summary:
nina = confirmed town from colour flip
pie says i'm scum b/c of a shittily reasoned readslist + lack of following-up/caring/providing reasons on nina-tsq/u interactions
dwlee says i'm scum b/c he can't read me
ranger wanted to flip pie, i thought to confirm her as town but actually seems b/c ranger thinks she's scum, also says she(ranger) will be mod-confirmed town at some point in the game after day 1
spiffeh didn't do anything for a long time then he came back and made some posts that weren't awful so he's unlikely scum!
tehbrawlguy makes posts but he's kinda under the radar to me? idk. i forgot he was one of the players earlier
itle is prob town? don't agree with pressuring ranger to give a set timeframe to be confirmed but do agree that ranger's content doesn't reeeeeally look town
game is slow, idk what else

katsuki, bella, ?????? scumteam

So let's have a come to Jesus meeting.

1. Why do you think I'm scum
2. If you really think I'm scum, why are you giving me a summary... = =

In the meantime,

unvote

.

p.s. thanks for the summary! tho it was more a readslist but oh well

[Katsuki]

No.

I do need someone to give me a summary of this game though. I don't have the motivation to catch up and I was p fucked up over the weekend

If I have to read so do you.

:<

Cupcakes aren't known for reading though!

[Katsuki]

omg everyone prodding me

[Katsuki]

no one loves me ;_;

[Katsuki]

also wow thats a rly morbid feast...

[Katsuki]

I don't really mind quick flips starting from here, although I want to point out that if we don't pick someone "obvious" per se, we can probably trust a red flip. I don't particularly feel the same way if we get a blue flip, cos if I was scum here and the painting mechanic functions in the same way it did last game I would be painting one of us blue immediately.

Could you explain this for those of us who aren't familiar with the mechanics?

[Katsuki]

Thanks pie!

Also wow "I'm sry bae" is your reasoning for voting me over aristo? I'll add to what pie said with that my biggest issue with ducks is her ignoring all my attempts to reach out to her to understand her read on me.

I kinda wanna flip spiffeh so that I don't have to put effort in trying to read him and lynch ducks (i'm sry bae)

[Katsuki]

I'd be cool with a Nahdia color flip!

Vote: nahdia

[Katsuki]

any chance we can turn this into a marathon game

yes please!

Also Nahdia and spiff are the two best flips for today imo so if we're not flipping spiff please hurry up and vote nahdia so we can get on with lynching thx

[Katsuki]

ducks why am I suddenly someone who you would vote for again when you called me town earlier?

Your reads have not been genuine and you refused to engage me when I replaced in while you were busy calling my slot scum without reasoning.

Anyways

VOTE: ALALALALA**CKS

[Katsuki]

ducks why am I suddenly someone who you would vote for again when you called me town earlier?

Your reads have not been genuine and you refused to engage me when I replaced in while you were busy calling my slot scum without reasoning.

Anyways

VOTE: ALALALALA**CKS

when i flip town, lynch this

katsuki i'm conflicted with my read on you because i don't want you to be scum but my gut tells me you are
tsq was scum anyway (says my gut) @_@

So why is it that when I was trying to sort you upon replacing in you decided to avoid me like the plague? If you were conflicted would you not have tried to sort me like you have many times before? I've never seen you do that in any of the other games I've played with you before, and you ewre town in all of them.

I'm just a juicy mislynch target to you and it saddens me that that's how you see me.

[Katsuki]

I'm not appealing to your emotion, I'm pointing out why you're scum.

I just want you to be town. It's all I ever wanted. : (

[Katsuki]

V/LA til Friday, no internet in home

[Katsuki]

wat do u thk abt pidgeottos?

[Katsuki]

VOTE: TheBrawlGuy

Congratulations on literally the worst post I've seen this game.

I think his post is solid. What would your read on TBG be if duckylala flips scum?

[Katsuki]

I'm not in this game at all welp.

Anyways I'm reading pie and nahdia as town. But nahdia I don't think I can sheep your scumreads :<

[Katsuki]

Those reads are boring kats.

Who do you think is scum? Because if we add tbg to the pile i think it's a fairly decent pile...

How are they boring?

Outside of that, I'm still sad that ducks turned out to be a townbutt as oppose to a scumbutt. Her adamant push on me without working with me this game makes me doubly so.

I haven't been reading the game so um maybe ask me in a few days?

[Katsuki]

would you support a Katsuki lynch?

this is so bad

why the turnaround?

[Katsuki]

Um what?

The way ducks has interacted with me throughout the game was a huge contributor to my apathy through most of the game. Her flipping town jsut makes me not want to play anymore tbh. Wasn't having fun in the first place anyways so was planning on sheeping you and nahdia from here on out.

But how on earth does that translate into me being

"invested"

in her lynch??

[Katsuki]

prodded havent caught up looks like we're color flipping me?

Vote: Katsuki

[Katsuki]

Also I'm gonna be busy for the next day so don't expect anything from me until at least a couple days from now.

[Katsuki]

Oh hey I flipped red! XD

If this flips scum, if it will, Katsuki may or may not be scum and I wouldn't interpret that redflip as confscum.

If it's (pieguyn) town we're autolynching Katsuki.

Because it's more important to get the blue paint onto the person most likely to endgame. That would not be Katsuki.

Absolutely gross posting. Not only is he trying to chain Pie mislynch into Kats mislynch, his basis for me being scum is that I wouldn't color myself blue as scum? His logic is that apparently that as scum I wouldn't think I'm likely to make it to endgame, despite the fact that I've made it to end-game in EVERY SINGLE GAME IVE EVER PLAYED WITH RC

COMPLETE FUCKING LOLS
WE'RE LYNCHING THIS WITH FIRE

VOTE: RC

[Katsuki]

IM NOT MOVING MY VOTE FOR THE REST OF THE GAME AND WE'RE NOT LYNCHING PIEGUYN

[Katsuki]

THANKS FOR GIVING ME A REASON TO CARE RC BECAUSE I AM LYNCHING YOUR SCUMFUCK ASS INTO OBLIVION

[Katsuki]

OMG THIS GAME

RC IF YOU WANT MY LYNCH IT WILL BE IN TRUE 1V1 FASHION
YOUR NECK IN A NOOSE AFTER MY TOWNFLIP

MEANWHILE
YOU GUYS ARE PANTS ON HEAD
PIEGUYN IS TOWN AND IF SHE IS LYNCHED TOWN LOSES THIS GAME 100% CALLING IT NOW

KRAS POSTING REEKS OF SCUM KNOWING THEY PAINTED ME RED
EVERYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS KNOW THAT IF I WERE SCUM I WOULDVE PAINTED MYSELF BLUE N1 CONSIDERING IM ONE OF THE BEST SCUM PLAYERS ON THIS FUCKING SITE

RC LET THIS SINK INTO THAT FUCKING THICK SKULL OF YOURS
YOU HAVE BEEN SCUMSWEPT BY ME

TWICE

IN WHAT WORLD DO I WALK AROUND WITH RED COLOURING AS SCUM?
IF YOU STILL THINK IM SCUM AFTER THAT THEN TYVM FOR YOUR SCUMCLAIM
OTHERWISE, DONT MAKE ME CRACK YOUR SKULL OPEN WITH A WINE BOTTLE THE NEXT TIME WE MEET

VOTE: SS

[Katsuki]

HAI TTH

RC was being bad that's all.

@Pieguyn: My post somehow never went through, but I'm surprised and a little bit scared that you know my philosophies on mafia play. XD

[Katsuki]

Nahdia do you actually think I'm scum?

[Katsuki]

Nahdia do you actually think I'm scum?

Yes.

Why

[Katsuki]

the S_S wagon is really really bad anyway and we should be lynching the red flip that's also been really scummy

So was I simply being distracted by RC and instead you're the scum trying to push me for my flip?

Because it's disingenuous as fuck and I think too highly of your play to accept this as proper reasoning.

p-edit: explain the scummy

[Katsuki]

prodded, busy with my game and other stuff post tmr.

[Katsuki]

I will post tonight, but meanwhile

Semi-V/LA until Sunday, TI is going on

[Katsuki]

lol so has kraska's read on me been entirely based on TSQ? because that is lolzy as fuck isnce TSQ is permanently scummy

[Katsuki]

I SKIMMED BRIEFLY

I WANT TO SAY IM FINE WITH A 1V1 BUT I FEEL LIKE THE CHANCES OF KRASKA BEING SCUM IS GREATER THAN NAHDIA
I DUNNO IF THERES ENOUGH NUMBERS LEFT BUT A MODIFIED 1V1 WOULD BE IF NAHDIA FLIPS SCUM, LYNCH KRASKA
IF NAHDIA FLIPS TOWN, LYNCH ME AND THEN LYNCH KRASKA ASAP AFTER MY TOWNFLIP

PREFERABLY KRASKA GOES FIRST BUT ILL DEFER TO PIEGUYN

[Katsuki]

VOTE: KRASKA

[Katsuki]

iraon is clearly bad-aligned, it's just a matter of figuring out what his role PM alignment is.

Everyone and their grandma knows that if I were scum I would've painted myself yet HERE I AM RED LOLOL

[Katsuki]

- I could explain why I'm bitter over this game (and in mafia in general), but it would involve me going on a long-winded rant about why I thoroughly hate how the site meta has shifted recently and find it no fun to play anymore. among the list of things I hate is when people think it's acceptable not to read long or detailed posts just because "not concise enough" ...

Site meta's been shit for 2 years now.

Which is why this was going to be my last game of mafia in a long while until FG dragged me into Alice.

[Katsuki]

D:

I'm town though!

Essentially players have been using my color flip as a basis for me being scum, which is utterly ridiculous because if I were scum I would have painted myself N1 no questions asked. Your slot is probably the most guilty of both this and trying to chain lynches.

[Katsuki]

iraon is clearly bad-aligned, it's just a matter of figuring out what his role PM alignment is.

Everyone and their grandma knows that if I were scum I would've painted myself yet HERE I AM RED LOLOL

If Nahdia painted herself blue it is impossible for you to have done so.

Someone should hammer ChaosOmega...

ROFL AND THE WORLD WHERE I DON'T PAINT MYSELF BLUE AS SCUM DOES NOT EXIST

THIS POST IS HEADDESK-ALIGNED

[Katsuki]

Katsuki ~ what's your wingback/bella read?

No idea haven't read a single post from that slot.

I haven't read most of the game, but that should come as no surprise to you. I've been primarily sheeping pieguyn because she's obvobvobvtown.

I am of the opinion that at least 1 scum rests in {nahdia/kraska}, if not both. Your slot is chaining lynches, while I'm 1V2'ING, BIG difference.

[Katsuki]

Prodded

Doesn't seem like much is going on right now.

VOTE: IRAON

[Katsuki]

Prodded ugh... I keep forgetting about this game...

Sotty real talk here why do you think I'm scum?

[Katsuki]

I'm VT.

popcorn iraon

[Katsuki]

Prodded ugh... I keep forgetting about this game...

Sotty real talk here why do you think I'm scum?

Because there is no blue paint in this game, and everyone in the game has been painted except you. That's why they had to kill Zulfy.

Yes because any scumteam with me on it would not have painted myself N1.

[Katsuki]

I'm an Alert townie. I am informed if my color is changed over night, but I'm not told what color I become.

My color was changed last night which is why I wanted to be flipped today and not wingback. I was curious to see if I would be purple (a combo of blue and red) like Dwlee.

The fact that I know my color was changed last night means there have been six color changes in the game with only five nights.

Katsuki = RED
Dwlee = PURPLE
irainavp = WHITE
wingback =BLACK
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???

So lets talk Katsuki. I would like to know who you think is scum and why. I feel like the bulk of your posts in this game have been yelling about how you would have painted yourself as scum and I get it, I do. But we already have one flipped red townie and now we know that someone here didn't have their color flipped because we don't have enough nights. I want to drink the wine with you, but you're not doing anything to convince me, so I'm struggling to come up with a scum pairing that doesn't include you.

Well that's interesting. In terms of color flip, there's not really anything I do to explain it other than the fact that I drew a town PM and started blue, so there's probably some shenanigans at play based on what you're saying, and I'd rather not go down the rabbithole of guessing what the scum PRs may be. It's more frustrating that people seem to think my scumplay is bad enough such that I would go walking around red considering I carry my scumteams more often than not. I didn't win my Don Corleone for nothing (which should've been 2 years in a row if it was actually based on BODY of work (fucking muffin)).

In terms of who I think is scum, I think iraon is scum because he seems much more reasoned as town. Granted, I don't believe I've seen his scumplay before, but his push on me was incredibly ungenuine and I don't see it coming from town him.

I am also quite suspicious of you if solely based on the fact that you're still alive. You were easily the strongest player remaining, yet here you still are standing in LYLO. What feeds this suspicion is the fact you appear quite close-minded and are focused on pushing my mislynch. I know I am town, in what is probably LYLO thus a situation where you only need a singular mislynch to win, and because I know you to be a highly skilled player, it points all the more to the reality of you being scum, because what you're doing is exactly what I'd be doing in your shoes. If you are indeed scum, we've probably already lost truth be told because there's no way I'd be getting you lynched over me, and you wouldn't help me bus your own partner anyways. Long story short, if you are scum then I'd rather you get this over with sooner than later because I can't wait to be free of this game.

[Katsuki]

Based on that VC, iraon has to be scum else I'd probably be hammered by now (unless it's thor+1 and they're just waiting for him to check in).

[Katsuki]

VOTE: iraon

[Katsuki]

I'm currently at work posting from a kindle so it's hard to quote and keep up but I'm not 1v1 with katsuki at all.

Mostly posting to not hammer at this point. I'm willing to give katsuki a little more time. However the more he avoids the thread, the more it looks like scum bailing

If you're gonna say this you should point out the fact that I haven't been on site period.

Gonna be out tonight will try and get to this tomorrow.

Sotty if you'll be around I wanna talk to you since it seems I'm L-1 and not dead yet so. I'm not scum so the game seems to be in your hands.

[Katsuki]

I'm currently at work posting from a kindle so it's hard to quote and keep up but I'm not 1v1 with katsuki at all.

Mostly posting to not hammer at this point. I'm willing to give katsuki a little more time. However the more he avoids the thread, the more it looks like scum bailing

Who said we were 1v1?

[Katsuki]

Lets talk partners.

Possible combos:

Katsuki + Thor
Katsuki + Dwlee
Katsuki + iraonavp
Katsuki + Sotty
Thor+ Dwlee
Thor + iranoavp
Thor + Sotty
Dwlee + iraonavp
Dwlee + Sotty
Sotty + iraonavp


Right now we have Katsuki at lynch - 1 with iraonavp and Dwlee voting. Both myself and Thor have posted without a hammer. That rules out a team of me and Thor as it would make Katsuki town and one of us would have end gamed you all by now.

This also rules out any team of either myself or Thor with either Dwlee or iraonavp because again this would me Katsuki was town and either Thor or myself would have hammered and the game would be over. This leaves us with the following five groupings.

Katsuki + Thor
Katsuki + Dwlee
Katsuki + iraonavp
Katsuki + Sotty
Dwlee + iraonavp

Thor+ Dwlee

Thor + iranoavp

Thor + Sotty

Dwlee + Sotty

Sotty + iraonavp

Breaking it down like this makes it pretty clear to me that Katsuki is scum. I want to check into the Dwlee + iraonavp just to make myself feel better but right now I don't feel that being too likely. I spoke about an alternate theory of the crime, and I was thinking it could be iranovp + Thor. I was doing reading and Bellaphant (Thor) left a vote on Spiffeh (iraonavp) a lot of day one despite spending most of her time pushing elsewhere on her reads. It stuck out to me. We have ruled that partnership out since Thor didn't hammer.

Am I missing something?

I think your analysis is rather flawed. I mean, granted in terms of POSSIBLE pairings according to what you listed, it would seem I fit in more pairs, but the simple fact right now is that I'm town and that's how the scumteam would want it.

If we just take a look at the past 2 pages, look at how desperate iraon and dwlee are with trying to get me lynched before I even get a chance to talk to you. I don't know how you can possibly townread that. They see the game in sight and are starting to let slip their scummy bloodlust. Just see how hard dwlee is trying to push the fact that I started the game red, despite the fact that I was blue and if I really were scum, would have painted myself blue, just like how I always prioritize the protection of myself in every scumgame I have ever played above all else (see Through the Looking Glass for a prime example, where I self-targetted myself with the rolestop every night as my scumbuddies got gunned down by the town vig, thus allowing me to carry the game in what was recognized as one of the best scum performances on this site of all time). They know that this game ends once my lynch has been achieved, hence why they are growing impatient and trying to get you to end the game before there is a possibility of you changing your mind.

You and Thor are confirmed town to me right now, it's clear that iraon and dwlee are scum. Now, you seem to be deadset in me being scum. Why is that? Talk to me and walk me through why you see me as scum, because the game is riding on it.

[Katsuki]

I haven't read any of Thor's posts whereas I've been meaning to communicate with you for a while now. I can't recall having played with him before or at least can't remember if we have, and I don't do well with strangers.

I don't know why you'd be looking at "math" when you have two players who are literally scumclaiming in front of your eyes. dwlee is scum because just look at the fucking shit he's been posting the past 2-3 pages and POE (did you really need to ask me why dwlee??).

As for iraon, go look through his ISO and tell me that is a town ISO. Go look at all the shit he's posted with regards to me and tell me that's town. I've seen iraon's play as town numerous times before and it is vastly different from his play here. As town, he is actually inquisitive and actively attempts to deduce the alignment of other players whereas his play here has been with the singular agenda of trying to get me mislynched because his team fucking painted me red.

It really sucks that the only player who actually knows me here is dead (pieguyn). OH SPEAKING OF WHICH HEY LOOK AT THAT THE ONLY PERSON DEFENDING ME GOT KILLED I FUCKING WONDER WHY. I REALLY want to point to [REDACTED], where a scummer correctly reasoned that I can't possibly be scum due to the N1 kill being a player who I am both friends with and who was actively sheeping me. I don't make retarded kills as scum.

But before I got on that tangent, it really sucks that pieguyn is dead because she knows that there is no way scum-Katsuki does not paint self different color as scum. I doubt you know me that well so I can understand why you don't seem to see how this is such a major point against me being scum, and obviously scumlee and scumavp are all LALALALALALALA

[Katsuki]

lmao AND I WOULD NOT HAVE PAINTED MYSELF SOME OTHER COLOR IF SAY I REALLY WAS SCUM AND BLUE WAS NOT AN OPTION???

LIKE HOLY FUCK SOTTY IF YOU'RE READING THIS CLUCKLEFUCK ALONG WITH IRAON'S LATEST POST AND TOWNREADING THOSE TWO THEN SHIT YOU REALLY DO DESERVE TO LOSE

IRAON DOESN'T EVEN THINK IM ACTUALLY SCUM HE'S JUST PUSHING HIS LOLMISLYNCH AND YOURE THE SUCKER FALLING FOR IT

[Katsuki]

JESUS THIS IS WHY IM QUITTING MAFIA GAMES LIKE THESE ARE FUCKING AGGRAVATING AND MAKE ME WISH I COULD DRAW SCUM EVERY GAME

[Katsuki]

happy game throwing

[Katsuki]

LOL WHAT THE FUCK I JUST SAW THAT MUFFINMAN DRAWING LMAO

Also I was just as surprised as I would have been as town flipping red because I thought I was painted!

[Katsuki]

thanks so much for modding cheet, this was a pretty crazy game

grr @ katsuki

lol @ ending

<3

Also nice try Thor, sad you got trolled by the setup.