Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[Aristophanes]

Why are you people up this early!?
VOTE: Nahdia
We were supposed to be hydra'd in this!
So sad!

[Aristophanes]

meow~

hello aristophanes

Hi Falalalala!

How are ya doin'?

[Aristophanes]

i had a bio exam earlier and it was ez and also i'm excited for the posh avian tea party so i'm pretty swelllll! hbu

Posh Avian?
Sounds Hella Fly!

Glad the exam went well!
I was at work all day myself. Busy day, but boooooring!

Got a couple pages to read still, but who be scum here?

[Aristophanes]

Oh fuck. I forgot about the flip phase! Lmao!

[Aristophanes]

Is it just be or is observing Rangers alignment at this point just a major cop out for actual scum hunting?

Why do you believe so?

Is Ranger a difficult read for you?

[Aristophanes]

She claimed innocent child.

Oh, that's what that was!
I feel stupid now.

[Aristophanes]

p-edit: utl, maybe, for that hiplop vote.

@utl, why?

You mean my page one vote? In RVS?

Hiplop put spiffeh at L-1, I was afraid of a derp hammer. I moved my RVS vote to hiplop because he was the one that put Spiffeh at L-1, and why not?

Why so afraid of a quick flip? It honestly makes the game a lot more fun if you power through the Colour Flip phase.
Take my word for it!

VOTE: UTL

[Aristophanes]

huh I thought he was at l-2.

Maybe it's playing with bbt too much. But the first vote that isn't on the l-1 wagon always makes me notice.

@beeboy, who do you think is doing that?

p-edit: ari, we only get one colour flip, what do you think is the best way to use them?

Also, who played the first paint game?

pp-edit: ok

I did, as did a few here. When drawn out, the Colour phase really creates apathy.

We get one per Dayphase. Use them on ProbablyScum/null reads. If they flip scum, lynch it!
If not, lynch a top scumread. It helps sort the middle so we're not left with Lylo nulls, takes away the need for Policy Lynches, and doesn't take away from scumhunting.

They are a great commodity, yes. But we can't dwell on them. We get a week right? I recommend a 4 day max or people start proddodging in Flip phase.

[Aristophanes]

I don't want to lynch you at all right now but if I ever needed to determine your alignment I would choose lynch > flip at this point 9/10 times.

Why Beebs?
That's usually for teh scumz

[Aristophanes]

^_^ Hey Hiplop want to buddy up?

OMG Buddying is so scummy!
Like, how can you be so obvious Beeboy? I thought you were good!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: utl

lynch vote ranger

why UTL?

vote: hiplop

Why Hoplip>?

[Aristophanes]

what do you think of my 51?

Too many words.

[Aristophanes]

I'm not even against speedflips, tbh, on any day that _isn't_ D1. but it completely fucking blows my mind how people can see what I'm writing and not give a shit that, hey, on D1 a speedflip is clearly not the optimal play!

I mean, it's not bad play.
We wither get a conftown or a scumflip.
Cool!

What else is there to gain?

[Aristophanes]

I checked the last paint mafia game which did not contain anyways for scum to appear town.

D1, no.
In the end, yeah.

[Aristophanes]

Ranger is scum etc

But they claimed com=nfirmable not scum.........

[Aristophanes]

Idc

Oh.

[Aristophanes]

Hahaha that was awesome!!

Idk. I'm with pie on using the first flip like a lynch.. I don't think we should waste it on speed voting someone.

I feel like scum should be more worried about this as they are likely most vulnerable at the first flip.

[Aristophanes]

replace me out, I'm too irritable to play with

I have an explanation for my scum read but TSQ is too childish to be worth playing with it seems.

@mod replace me out

[Aristophanes]

Yea I have no clue.

Damn. I was hoping you'd have something awesome to say

[Aristophanes]

Holy shit you people blew up this thread :S

I'm cast up to Lalaala's series of posts (Also, <3 The Duck Song!). Skimmed and saw some people scumreading her. Not getting that same feel. I'll have to see why in that PieWall though.

[Aristophanes]

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS
TO DEFEAT
THE SCUMS
DID THEY SEND ME LURKERS
WHEN I ASKED
FOR CRUMBS?

YOU'RE THE SADDEST TOWN
I EVER MET
BUT YOU CAN BET
BEFORE WE'RE THROUGH
SOMEHOW I
WILL TOTES SORT
ALL OF YOOOOOOUUU

TOWNY AS AN IC
BUT A SCUM PM
ONCE I ISO YOU
I SURE WILL FIND THEEEEMMM

YOU'RE A VI, LOST, AND SCUMMY LOT
AND YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUUEEE
SOME HOW I
WILL TOTES SORT
ALL OF YOOOOUUU

FIND THE SCUM
YOU MUST BE SWIFT AS A SNEAKY NINJA
FIND THE SCUM
WITH ALL THE FORCE OF A GREAT STRONGMAN
FIND THE SCUM
WITH ALL THE STRENGTH OF A RAGING RC
AND CLEVER AS THIS REWRITE OF MUULAAAAANNNNN

<3
Amazing!

[Aristophanes]

so, aristophanes. who's the scumz?

Not you or Nahdia for sure. I like both o four posting. It's really natural.

[Aristophanes]

Hey Pie!
I'm on my way to work, but I'll do a quick respond.
I've been an awful lot busier than I expected recently and should be doing a catchup Blitz quite soon.

That said, every time I come to this game I see you and Brawl walling at each other and it makes it tougher to get into this.

[Aristophanes]

Hey, proddodge for the next couple hours. I'll be posting properly then (or at least reading properly again.)

[Aristophanes]

No.

I do need someone to give me a summary of this game though. I don't have the motivation to catch up and I was p fucked up over the weekend

If I have to read so do you.

Jeez, seems I'm not the only slacker of the bunch.
Put it off lpnger than intended. Here th/

[Aristophanes]

Holy fuck!
If you.would stop it with the wallsaubeni could get something done this game!

Nina's vote is pretty opportunistic in timing and I don't like it.

[Aristophanes]

Nina's vote is pretty opportunistic in timing and I don't like it.

But she's blue, friend.

Did we flip her?
I should pay more attention.

[Aristophanes]

You seemed to be playing plenty of attention when you got beetlejuiced into the thread after two votes.

I need to re-read your slot.

Mere happenstance.
However every time I come here I feel like there is just too much to deal with. I legit haven't had time for all these words!

[Aristophanes]

Ari's beetlejuicing (lol, tbg) is suspect though: ari, even if you are skimming some of the walls, which, admittedly I am this week, what's your take on the general game state? What do you think is going on with pie/ranger? Have you had much experience with stream of consciousness lala? Because I don't think I have, which is what's making me 0.0 my meta read.

I have zero games with Lala ever besides this one. So I have no basis for a read there but this game.

I will have to get back to you on Pie/Ranger. Gimme another day or two and I'll have something.

[Aristophanes]

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have 1 day, 5 hours, 10 minutes to do so

Oh.
Thanks for the heads up Lala!

I'll do this tonight then.

[Aristophanes]

Any other specific questions for me to consider as I go?

[Aristophanes]

Okay, I'm here. Reading up now!

Very sorry about this. I didn't mean to leave it this long

[Aristophanes]

Any other specific questions for me to consider as I go?

what do you make of pie's pushes

Noted for consideration.

Reading from Blueflip.

[Aristophanes]

Okay, so first off, I really dislike TBG going after Ranger.
If she says she'll be mod confirmed, let her get mod confirmed!
It's simple.

That said, I don't think scum would push on her like that, and I'd be more wary of those who rush in to defend her, as it's an easy way to stay relevant and post content without actually doing anything. Starts out with Pie, who I have to read lots of to come. So I'm holding off on judgement there just yet.

Not sure I like Itle. Possible scum from Ranger commentary. Just the way he goes about it. Feels yuck.

I really like Lalalala and I hope they are town! They make reading fun!
So far, nothing damning on that front, so I am going to keep this as town.

Continuing reading.

Hoooooly Ninja's!

[Aristophanes]

tsq/katsuki are a scum lean because my predecessor was heavily scum reading tsq (although I personally am null on the slot)

This is a weird reason for a read. JS.
Call me hypocritical, but I forgot you were in this game....

Also, Wtf is this?

I thought you were scummy but pie put it into words.

Like, I've seen you articulate scumreads well. Why do you seem like you're backpacking on Pie's

claiming that you are confirmable is towny if you do confirm yourself.

This again?
I really dislike this.
Like, She said she'll confirm herself, let it go!
I think there is a difference in how Itle and TBG approached this, and it's giving me very opposite reads.

pip's defense actually feels p genuine to me. i dig it. not sure what about it is, i just like it.

also hey there's something i wanna bring up but i dont wanna do it now so if i dont remember next game day, someone pls quote this an be like "yo nahdia what was going through your beautiful brain back in this post?"

i dont want lala today. i want spiffeh.

Did this happen? I didn't see this happen.

Okay, so Pie is totally towny. I can't see any of the posts or motivation coming from scum. I'd defend this to my death.

Aaand right after I type this i read...

considering whether pie is scum actually

Why!?
They haven't done anything at all scummy.
Like, this read is dumb.
(I still think you're rad though!)

I like being carried

VOTE: Dwlee getting tired of this.

Oh shush itle. Im tired of having no clue about who is scum except for lala too.

Nope. This is totally fake. Either SvT or SvS bussing.
Like, I can't even put into words how fake this feels!
Oh my god, they keep it going!

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

hey wow we agree

why dont you actually vote lala then

I don't know who is worse!
This doesn't feel like the Dwlee I know more than the Itle I know though.

VOTE: Dwlee

[Aristophanes]

Holy shit, give us an estimated timeframe or eat a lynch. The 'for obvious reasons' don't work miss 'top tier'. If you get to push through however many days you want out of some vague promise of confirmability that is not the same thing as confirmable after d1. You have no content worth anything if you aren't going to be confirmed ASAP. All of it is buddying and talking about how you are going to be confirmed. You managed to completely dodge the flip phase by that argument, which right now doesn't make any sense to me from TownRanger. Town that might be confirmable if a certain night action occurs (because let's be honest that part of your role is super obvious) usually doesn't out that info unless they are under a lot of pressure in which they claim some nonsabatogable information about how they are confirmable or if they aren't under that pressure

they shouldn't claim

this feels to me like scum that got excited by the fact that they might have a way to appear as what they view as confTown at some point in the game and didn't actually go through the mentality of town in that position.

Basically a). your conf has to be mod confirmed and b). it has to be before d3.

If you can't do those things then you have a lot of work to do with your content. I'm used to Ranger being super useful and generally pretty obvtown, and ignoring your claim you are at snarky levels of content so get cracking.

Also while we are talking about bad reads explain the UTL one please.

Holy shit. This is so, so bad!

Can we do this instead of Dwlee? I can't believe a) that he is so adamant on this (as if he's really worried about it) and b) that it's, like, all he is talking about. Like, talk about using this claim to pretend to generate content!

VOTE: Itle

Ninja'd
I'll read your spoiler, Lalalala.

[Aristophanes]

not dwlee, aristo. he's town.

Spoiler: (my reason)

I like being carried

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

hey wow we agree

why dont you actually vote lala then

see i don't think dwlee can be scum b/c he's doing nothing except try to get people to lynch me. if i'm lynched, i flip town, people go well hm who is incriminated by that flip?
pie? well yeah she pushed that pretty hard so might be scumz but at least she had

reasons

who else
hmm
oh yeah dwlee! dwlee? what's that guy done ALL GAME? let's iso him ah yes let's see......... well. not much here apart from trying to get lala lynched

like CAN SCUM ACTUALLY BE THAT DUMB? that they would do -basically nothing- apart from making pretty much contentless posts and trying to convince people to vote me

so congrats dwlee you've earned yourself a townread from this duck by not playing well

Hmm...
I mean, Dwlee is a very good player...

I'll consider this.
He isn't usually so one dimensional tohugh.

[Aristophanes]

Hey, proddodge for the next couple hours. I'll be posting properly then (or at least reading properly again.)

hey buddy your iso is vacuous, chuck us a readslist?

Would that honestly be helpfula t this point?

{Nina}
{Nahdia}
{Katsuki}
{Bellaphant}
{Dwlee, Aristophanes, Spiffeh}
{itlepip}
{laladucks}
{TehBrawlGuy}
{UpTooLate}
{pie}

surprised to see pie that low tbh
and aristophanes that high?????

Yeah, I agree with this.
Buuuut, I await their apparently obvious revelation that sbsolutely can't happen D1 in order to gauge their alignment.
And I think they are town.

Why are people saying my posts were good but still not entertaining Bella as scum

like at all?

Who is calling your posts good?

Me. Because he's town.
Stop it with the doubtcasting, Scum!

[Aristophanes]

wallsaubeni

Wallsenubeni.
What was I even...
Lmao

Ari's beetlejuicing (lol, tbg) is suspect though: ari, even if you are skimming some of the walls, which, admittedly I am this week, what's your take on the general game state? What do you think is going on with pie/ranger? Have you had much experience with stream of consciousness lala? Because I don't think I have, which is what's making me 0.0 my meta read.

Town-Town. I think they are a strong force, even if they disagree. Ranger is town Via claim, Pie via play.

As I say, first game with Lalala, but I likes them!

[Aristophanes]

how could i possibly have a read on aris

that's exactly the point. what do you make of the fact that he's done literally nothing this entire game?

contrast, for instance, Spiffeh, who despite not being here a lot of the game at least gave reads and attempted to accomplish things while he *was* here (i.e. the read on you and the push on bella). Aris has just done literally fucking nothing.

I can't argue this. I have been useless.

VOTE: Aristophanes
DEADLINE WAGON GOOOO

*Sigh*
Why? Because I'm not here, and thus easy to wagon?

I like Aristo's comments on the flip phase, but her lack of scumhunting bothers me a lot. It's pretty standard scumplay to make good neutral points about the set-up/mechanics but not actually find scum. I'm happy with a VOTE: aristo.

Lol, I am male. Though I get this a lot for some reason.
Even IRL...

I stand by my posts about the Flip phase. I have been unavailable since, so yeah. My bad.
Do you have a readslist though? I would love to know your general stanves on people.

VOTE: Spiffeh

Fucking no!
Why the fuck even???

to be perfectly clear, I don't buy that Aris thinks this game is "too many words" and that this somehow precludes him from trying to read the game. even if I'm posting a lot (which tbh I'm really, really not), the rest of this game is fairly light as far as content goes. I think he's struggling to come up with a way to fake content, and just coming up with excuses not to have to post because he doesn't want to risk making himself look worse off it.

@lala,

are you going to join us on Aris, and are you going to address my response to you?

Ridiculous.
This is making me look worse. Why would I continue it after being called out on it??

So close to caught up!!!
Finally!

Aw shit, another Ninja.

[Aristophanes]

Ari A). How are my posts, ignoring Dwlee for a second, at all awkward? How is that relevant to my alignment at all. B). FTR I just found my notes I mentally just screwed up Spiffeh is a townread, really glad I found these. C). My whole reason for making that wall was that Ranger's claim should no longer be a pass for the shit content she has given so far, the dumb circumstance in which she claimed and amount of stuff she is hiding just in order to say that sometime during the game, probably before lylo, the mod will confirm her. The reason that I did that whole thing is because it is super important that people don't just call Ranger town and just let the game slip by when her claim is that garbage.

Itle.
A)

Well, that could be another reasons nina was left off of pip's readslists.

I could vote there, or do I got to revote spiffeh after the flip?

What, I didn't put town on my readlist? Or is Nina a godfather where I metagamed this?

Awkward. Like, the way you call this out doesn't seem natural or towny.

Everything at Ranger seems awkeard as well. Like you're unsure ho to approach that claim. Like, this

Ranger if you are gambiting say it now because you are not living d2 if you say it then

is fucking terrible!
If they were going to say it, they would have already. If not, what is the goddamsed point?
You dance around the fire so much before jumping in. How is this towny?

I don't like how hard you are pushing this at all.

Also, you townread her, from this, yes? Yet you doubt the claim??
This reads like you're trying to pass off your read as going either way, should she actually flip.
What did you dislike so much about TBG scumreading Ranger if you yourself didn't buy the claim, hunh?

VOTE: Dwlee getting tired of this.

This isn't an awkward interaction?
Oh, right. Sans Dwlee.
Oh well.

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

Is "Gimmisky| scum? Why snd hoe??

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

hey wow we agree

why dont you actually vote lala then

because the person I'm voting is waaay more frustrating.

*Insert rage here*
Why not vote someone scummy instead of someone frustrating!?!?!?
This is not a towny mindset!

its like people think I just haven't thought about voting for lala and them telling me will change my mind.

Also like, WTF.
This post reeks of Scum trying to stay cool.

That's enough for A) I think.

B) i. How convenient. What else do these magical notes say?
ii. Why the fuck are you still voting him then!? If you sduddenlly realized he was a townread, you'd fucking unvote him, no?

C) If Ranger doesn't get NK'd for this claim, and makes it to D3 without posting anything that confirms her, then I'll consider it. But until then, Ranger is a townread and, though maybe not sheeped, should be treated as Innocent until proven guilty.
If she doesn't deliver, she's scum. Nothing to worry about there.

Now, Imma finish the last few pages and go to bed.

[Aristophanes]

I kinda lol'd. I figured that when I backed off and offered Aris as a potential counterwagon, lala would probably find some bullshit reason to not want to support the wagon and go to vote someone else.

Meaning..Lala scumread?
Because I don't see it.

actually wait i didnt realize we're this close to the deadline people are just gonna apathy lynch aristo unless i do this arent they

Gladiate: Zulfy

Lol this.
don't actually know what to make of this

*holds out wing*

Squirrels don't have wings!

[Aristophanes]

I thought I was voting Dwlee from the thing, VOTE: Dwlee

No response to anything I said?
Seriously??

[Aristophanes]

I will later.

Okay.
I'm off to bed now anyway.