Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[iraonavp]

Hi, Zulfy!

My slot didn't roll scum-aligned, though...

[iraonavp]

VOTE: pieguyn

This is a temporary vote based on very little because I have not read the thread yet.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Katsuki

I think he flipped red because he just is red...

[iraonavp]

What?

[iraonavp]

OMG THIS GAME

RC IF YOU WANT MY LYNCH IT WILL BE IN TRUE 1V1 FASHION
YOUR NECK IN A NOOSE AFTER MY TOWNFLIP

MEANWHILE
YOU GUYS ARE PANTS ON HEAD
PIEGUYN IS TOWN AND IF SHE IS LYNCHED TOWN LOSES THIS GAME 100% CALLING IT NOW

KRAS POSTING REEKS OF SCUM KNOWING THEY PAINTED ME RED
EVERYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS KNOW THAT IF I WERE SCUM I WOULDVE PAINTED MYSELF BLUE N1 CONSIDERING IM ONE OF THE BEST SCUM PLAYERS ON THIS FUCKING SITE

RC LET THIS SINK INTO THAT FUCKING THICK SKULL OF YOURS
YOU HAVE BEEN SCUMSWEPT BY ME

TWICE

IN WHAT WORLD DO I WALK AROUND WITH RED COLOURING AS SCUM?
IF YOU STILL THINK IM SCUM AFTER THAT THEN TYVM FOR YOUR SCUMCLAIM
OTHERWISE, DONT MAKE ME CRACK YOUR SKULL OPEN WITH A WINE BOTTLE THE NEXT TIME WE MEET

VOTE: SS

This post is scum-aligned and fake...

I don't think Katsuki would defend himself so vehemently with something that is entirely WIFOM if he was town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

What does purple mean?

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Katsuki

I thought it was lynch, not color lynch before.

[iraonavp]

Do colors mix so the purple is blue and red together, or is it just he is purple to start with?

[iraonavp]

We know that Dwlee was painted probably because he didn't claim it, so it makes it way more unlikely for Katsuki to be painted...

[iraonavp]

We know that Dwlee was painted probably because he didn't claim it, so it makes it way more unlikely for Katsuki to be painted...

have you read literally anything that has been posted this game day?

Actually I did not...

[iraonavp]

Okay, I am VT colored as blue.

[iraonavp]

I do think Nahdia could be scum-aligned.

I am not really sure about Dwlee, but I think he is probably town-aligned because why would a scum-aligned player paint themselves purple when they could paint themselves green? It seems like pointless WIFOM when there is a low chance that someone is painted.

[iraonavp]

I am not really sure about Dwlee, but I think he is probably town-aligned because why would a scum-aligned player paint themselves purple when they could paint themselves green? It seems like pointless WIFOM when there is a low chance that someone is painted.

.....................................................

you *are* aware blue is the town color, correct? green and purple are equivalent in terms of what color means in this game.

I know, I just misspoke... I meant to say blue. It's not a scumslip, I said that I was blue before... I was also a bit confused that the color was blue in my role PM, it should be green for homogeneity honestly.

[iraonavp]

Okay, that rules out what I said then.

I read his ISO and I think it is slightly scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

That's not part of his role.
TBG could not paint either, by the way.

He can, it protects both kills and paint...

I agree with kraska regarding Dwlee's posts, they seem very fake.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: KRASKA

This is an awful vote.

How can you vote kraska77 after his posts on the last few pages?

I think you are scum-aligned still.

The only way for Katsuki to be town-aligned is less likely because we know on one of the nights Dwlee was painted purple, too. He is just coasting at this point...

[iraonavp]

I'm a she

Sorry, I didn't know...

I will try and read the thread soon.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: ChaosOmega

Maybe not for that reason but Nahdia is very suspicious from what I have read.

[iraonavp]

Wow, Nahdia's fake gladiate is really transparently trying to take votes off Aristophanes...

[iraonavp]

I read the thread now.

I am most confident that ChaosOmega is scum-aligned. Nahdia's play was extremely scum-aligned, especially the interactions with Aristophanes. One thing I remember is how she argues that she doesn't make sense as partners with another player.

The next most likely person I think is Katsuki. If ChaosOmega is scum-aligned like I suspect, for us to have targeted the person who was painted every day without fail is kind of unreasonable. Wingback brings up a good point about ChaosOmega / Dwlee not being consistent for the scum-aligned painting intentions, and I think that Dwlee is slightly town-aligned by play.

Katsuki could have been being bussed by Nahdia easily and I don't think Nahdia's coasting with pushes on Katsuki has much bearing on Katsuki's alignment. Nahdia did not really bother to argue with anyone just lazy, that could make Katsuki slightly scum-aligned.

While I was reading day two / three, I remember starting to think that pieguyn was scum-aligned for fake bitterness every time someone disagreed with her or suggested she was scum-aligned, but after time I began to think it was genuine simply because of the amount and consistency of effort she was putting into the game. I strongly disagree with defense of Katsuki and I think the arguments are largely WIFOM and trying to force a conclusion using meta.

I trust kraska77 somewhat.

Wingback is null-aligned, the slot has not really done many readable things...

If ChaosOmega is scum-aligned, Zulfy is definitely town-aligned, otherwise I think he is slightly scum-aligned.

Honestly I want to lynch Katsuki, if only because I am worried about confirmation bias and I would trust results over my reads...

pieguyn, please if you respond to this post be concise and separate the questions, I have trouble reading your posts for most of the game.

[iraonavp]

I also dispute the notion that Katsuki is the obvious person to paint.

[iraonavp]

What about me, Iraonavp?

I'm not sure, I hope ChaosOmega is scum-aligned so I can easily write you off as town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

iraon is clearly bad-aligned, it's just a matter of figuring out what his role PM alignment is.

Everyone and their grandma knows that if I were scum I would've painted myself yet HERE I AM RED LOLOL

If Nahdia painted herself blue it is impossible for you to have done so.

Someone should hammer ChaosOmega...

[iraonavp]

Okay, I will respond to parts, I am posting on my phone currently and you said not to reply "lel I disagree".

I don't think the pushes on Zulfy and Katsuki are comparable, and the things you describe are just things that make Nahdia scum-aligned... Nahdia's arguments with Zulfy were excessive and frustrated posturing to make him look bad, none of this "all of your posts are scumclaims" with Katsuki. Zulfy was pushing Nahdia back in a way that looked genuine. Meanwhile Katsuki is just posting that he will sheep Nahdia and you. The fact that her pushes are lazy makes Nahdia scum-aligned, doesn't relate to who she is accusing. Saying that Katsuki is an easy push is confirmation bias because you are assuming he is town-aligned.

Often it is more likely to bus a partner who has a guilty result on them, and she didn't feel like she could justify moving away. She bussed Aristophanes silently and only when he was already at L-1.

[iraonavp]

what arguments of me being scum?
the "dwlee is confscum cause purple and chaos is def scum with him cause ~associatives~" I did, it is stupid reasoning. I dont have something to post here so I dont. If I was purposefully avoidinf the thread I wouldnt post elsewhere.

What "~associatives~"?

[iraonavp]

iraon is clearly bad-aligned, it's just a matter of figuring out what his role PM alignment is.

Everyone and their grandma knows that if I were scum I would've painted myself yet HERE I AM RED LOLOL

If Nahdia painted herself blue it is impossible for you to have done so.

Someone should hammer ChaosOmega...

ROFL AND THE WORLD WHERE I DON'T PAINT MYSELF BLUE AS SCUM DOES NOT EXIST

THIS POST IS HEADDESK-ALIGNED

I think that if Nahdia and you are teamed, she is better to paint than you. I don't think you are so narrowminded that you cannot see how and spam in caps that you are town-aligned when you flipped red.

[iraonavp]

No, you're being dumb.
Kraska was arguing that I was confirmed scum no matter what, and then the best case for my partner was chaos, but even if chaos wasn't my partner then I am still conf scum. Then they wanted to lynch chaos first and then lynch me because it "doesn't matter" when I am lynched cause I am "confirmed scum" when the case on chaos was that he was partners with me which I obviously know isn't true cause I'm town which means that if they lynched chaos and he flipped town they could still argue I was "Conf scum" in lylo to lynch me for a win.

What is your read on ChaosOmega?

I ask because something I have done in the past is use pre-flip associatives assuming my partner is town-aligned to accuse people...

[iraonavp]

VOTE: iraonavp

I think that I am too obvious a paint target so possibly protected by WIFOM...

We should mass claim after the color flip, I think.

[iraonavp]

Okay, unless there is a PR with information like a cop.

[iraonavp]

Sotty7 is certainly town-aligned.

Zulfy, who do you think is scum-aligned now?

I thought that pieguyn was scum-aligned during night phase and I am happy they were killed...

[iraonavp]

I read some ISOs again, at the moment my reads are:

Town-aligned - Sotty7, Wingback
Scum-aligned - Katsuki, Dwlee, Zulfy

I'm confident in both of Sotty7 and Wingback being town-aligned.

I just need to work out who to trust.

I didn't like Dwlee's posts about no lynching, they felt LAMISTy and curt. I am considering Zulfy and Dwlee as a team because of how Zulfy treated Dwlee as having townslipped. It's like he just came up with a semi-believable excuse to defend and not have to try and sort Dwlee. Dwlee is the type of person that is impossible to trust and you know they will just steal your television...

Katsuki is inscrutable as ever, but I cannot trust him after flipping red, and trying to play off the WIFOM in all caps...

I would lynch Katsuki above anyone else.

If we no lynch, probably just someone I already trust will die and we achieve nothing... That's why I think you should claim if you are PR with info. Otherwise, if you are for example cop who targeted the person who died each night, it doesn't really matter and you should not claim.

[iraonavp]

Okay, that's not very surprising in retrospect.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Because he is setting up to fakeclaim PR tomorrow.

[iraonavp]

Irao is it ira ona vp, irao nav p, or iraona vp?

It's iraon a v p.

[iraonavp]

Okay you're right, I just got confused my thoughts leaked...


VOTE: No lynch

[iraonavp]

It doesn't mean anything, it's just a string from random.org... That's how I make all my names!

[iraonavp]

The fact that Zulfy was painted red means that the only possibility for Katsuki to be town-aligned is if Zulfy / him were painted night one and two. Which is even less probable...

Obviously he was killed as WIFOM (like what Katsuki was trying to defend himself with the entire game...). So they will try to mislynch me because this makes it clear to me that Dwlee99 and Katsuki are scum-aligned. I will consider Wingback, though.

Then Katsuki will say that I killed Zulfy only so that I could say this, even though he knows that it's entirely WIFOM and he doesn't really believe what he's saying.

I actually don't think there is any blue paint because it's a mini game.

I would rather flip Wingback instead (just because I trust Sotty7 the most and I consider it more likely to have extremes painted), but it probably doesn't matter anyway...

VOTE: Wingback

[iraonavp]

@Mod:

If scum paint zulfy red and then murder him on the same night does he flip red?

I guess that's a possibility too, I never considered that.

[iraonavp]

Enlightening.

Who do you think is scum-aligned?

[iraonavp]

Katsuki is deliberately avoiding the thread.

I already said that I'm VT...

I really think there is no blue paint in this game because it got scaled down. That's why I think Katsuki is scum-aligned, because he was unable to paint himself blue! And that's why he keeps insisting on it to reinforce this false assumption...

[iraonavp]

I think that Dwlee and Katsuki are scum-aligned because beeboy bussed TSQ out of personal dislike, and then they replaced out from an argument in the scum-aligned topic.

[iraonavp]

Like TSQ said earlier this game we are just doing arbitrary actions right now so none of his flailing really matters and we should still flip him.

-not caring about finding scum: check.
-well poisoning: check.
-being a condescending asshole: check.
-doing nothing to help town: check.

cool. beeboy is still the same person.

nothing to see here. Pie, I want to go more in depth on some of the things you've said so I think its going to take a moment to get to you. I'm not ignoring you though.

k

I have an explanation for my scum read but TSQ is too childish to be worth playing with it seems.

@mod replace me out

Nothing happens in the thread between these posts, but 48 minutes pass!

[iraonavp]

Ira I cant tell if youre scum or legitimately believe what you just said. You realize that is a problem, right?

My argument is not ridiculous at all, but I expect you to discredit me considering that it's your slot.

In fact, the same thing happened to me before when I requested replacement because of the scum-aligned team.

[iraonavp]

That's an excellent point, actually!

I hadn't considered the very viable possibility that beeboy spent 48 minutes thinking about whether or not to replace out after initially dismissing TSQ's post.

[iraonavp]

Prodded ugh... I keep forgetting about this game...

Sotty real talk here why do you think I'm scum?

Because there is no blue paint in this game, and everyone in the game has been painted except you. That's why they had to kill Zulfy.

[iraonavp]

That's an excellent point, actually!

I hadn't considered the very viable possibility that beeboy spent 48 minutes thinking about whether or not to replace out after initially dismissing TSQ's post.

I cant even tell if you are being sarvastic or not

Obviously you can, otherwise you wouldn't even say this!

[iraonavp]

I already claimed VT!

You are not reading the thread...

[iraonavp]

Prodded ugh... I keep forgetting about this game...

Sotty real talk here why do you think I'm scum?

Because there is no blue paint in this game, and everyone in the game has been painted except you. That's why they had to kill Zulfy.

Yes because any scumteam with me on it would not have painted myself N1.

Not if there is no blue paint, which there isn't.

[iraonavp]

Okay, I don't mind if you claim.

[iraonavp]

So Katsuki is confirmed as scum-aligned, cool.

I would like to point out that kraska softed PR and only players inattentive enough to not kill Sotty7 are Dwlee and Katsuki.

VOTE: Katsuki

[iraonavp]

That's why I was making it clear that something like cop should claim if they have results, because I was worried that you would die...

[iraonavp]

Does anyone have a link to paint mafia 1?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=64918

[iraonavp]

UNVOTE: Katsuki

Okay, but I will never vote anyone else.

[iraonavp]

Dwlee, that's what I said earlier...

It looks much more likely than Wingback being scum-aligned, and that's what I thought even before Katsuki was confirmed as scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Mostly because he is putting effort when nobody else was really doing much.

And before I put him as town-aligned because he didn't look scum-aligned really, all of Zulfy, Dwlee, and Katsuki looked suspicious to me so I figured he was town-aliged from elimination.

[iraonavp]

Completely fake.

[iraonavp]

It's because he is scum-aligned trying to look town-aligned by faking frustration.

[iraonavp]

Read his ISO. He's almost completely disengaged with the game (at least until he posted some colored vote counts ). My evaluation of his play is completely warranted and he knows this, it's not even an insult. He isnt really upset by that, and it's actually pretty disgusting that his play has devolved into insulting players to look town-aligned.

Wingback would not have made the mistake of killing Zulfy.

Early in the game, Dwlee votes Katsuki repeatedly without giving any reason why he's scum-aligned...

[iraonavp]

No, you're being dumb.
Kraska was arguing that I was confirmed scum no matter what, and then the best case for my partner was chaos, but even if chaos wasn't my partner then I am still conf scum. Then they wanted to lynch chaos first and then lynch me because it "doesn't matter" when I am lynched cause I am "confirmed scum" when the case on chaos was that he was partners with me which I obviously know isn't true cause I'm town which means that if they lynched chaos and he flipped town they could still argue I was "Conf scum" in lylo to lynch me for a win.

This shows that Dwlee knew that ChaosOmega was town-aligned. He wouldnt even bring this up if he really thought ChaosOmega was scum-aligned... Dwlee's push on kraska is feeble and shortlived after it becomes obvious to everyone else that kraska is town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Katsuki

I think he flipped red because he just is red...

lol

This is completely fake and just going with the flow after pieguyn decided to hard defend Katsuki for no reason.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Katsuki

[iraonavp]

I never said that, however you are bad at the game for killing Zulfy.

[iraonavp]

This is totally unlike before when you just gave up and voted yourself, because now it's not just posturing and you will be lynched for real.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: dwlee
dont replace out I like playing with you pie I am just disconnected from the game

You would deny that you have been inattentive?

That's not an insult anyway...

[iraonavp]

It happens to be gamethrowing for a townie to self vote in lylo, dipshit

And it's not gamethrowing to vote yourself before LyLo?

[iraonavp]

At least, its not gamethrowing to vote yourself as scum-aligned because being fatalistic could make you look more town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

Well, Shaziro said that it is gamethrowing, so you're probably wrong.

[iraonavp]

This shows that Dwlee knew that ChaosOmega was town-aligned.

And this
No, it doesnt. AT ALL
It shows that a player who considered me conf scum was trying to lynch someone else instead of me and I found that scummy.

What?

Your entire argument was you being super worried that kraska would try and lynch you after ChaosOmega flipped town-aligned, you had no way to know ChaosOmega's alignment unless you were scum-aligned. People who bring up "chain lynch" arguments are usually scum-aligned.

[iraonavp]

Who gives a fuck what shaziro said ????
You realize Ive been playing mafia way longer than him right? What makes you say "Hey let me appeal to this player who has a join date in this year to support my shitty argument"??

Titus said he was right as well, Titus has been playing longer than both of you.

[iraonavp]

By the way, who else makes fake and scum-aligned caps posts when they are cornered?

Spoiler: No, don't open the spoiler. Think of an answer first...

That's right, Katsuki!

OMG THIS GAME

RC IF YOU WANT MY LYNCH IT WILL BE IN TRUE 1V1 FASHION
YOUR NECK IN A NOOSE AFTER MY TOWNFLIP

MEANWHILE
YOU GUYS ARE PANTS ON HEAD
PIEGUYN IS TOWN AND IF SHE IS LYNCHED TOWN LOSES THIS GAME 100% CALLING IT NOW

KRAS POSTING REEKS OF SCUM KNOWING THEY PAINTED ME RED
EVERYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS KNOW THAT IF I WERE SCUM I WOULDVE PAINTED MYSELF BLUE N1 CONSIDERING IM ONE OF THE BEST SCUM PLAYERS ON THIS FUCKING SITE

RC LET THIS SINK INTO THAT FUCKING THICK SKULL OF YOURS
YOU HAVE BEEN SCUMSWEPT BY ME

TWICE

IN WHAT WORLD DO I WALK AROUND WITH RED COLOURING AS SCUM?
IF YOU STILL THINK IM SCUM AFTER THAT THEN TYVM FOR YOUR SCUMCLAIM
OTHERWISE, DONT MAKE ME CRACK YOUR SKULL OPEN WITH A WINE BOTTLE THE NEXT TIME WE MEET

VOTE: SS

[iraonavp]

Who gives a fuck what shaziro said ????
You realize Ive been playing mafia way longer than him right? What makes you say "Hey let me appeal to this player who has a join date in this year to support my shitty argument"??

Titus said he was right as well, Titus has been playing longer than both of you.

IF A TOWNIE IS BEING CONSIDERED CONF SCUM IT IS BETTER TO BE LYNCHED AND HAVE TOWN USE THE FLIP THAN TO BE LYNCHED IN A LYLO SITUATION
MAFIA GAMES
HAVE
CIRCUMSTANCES
you cannot say "THIS PERSON DID THIS ONE SPECIFIC THING THAT ALWAYS MEANS THIS"

Not really, it's better to try and lynch scum-aligned players instead in 99.9999% of cases...

You are not really angry about a theory argument, just caught for the wrong reasons.

[iraonavp]

I cant even talk to you
You confbias me
You call all my posts "fake"
You say other stupid shit
^^^^^^^^
And then you just sprinkle it with insults to make it even more unbearable
or youre scum. And I hope you feel insulted that your play is so bad that Im unsure whether or not you are just legitimately this bad at mafia or scum. So congratulations

I find it amusing how little self-awareness you have that you are trying to insult me in this post.

[iraonavp]

You are not really angry about a theory argument, just caught for the wrong reasons.

Like oh my god
YOU PUSH ME FOR SHITTY REASONS. I TELL YOU THEY ARE SHITTY. AND THEN YOU ADMIT THEY ARE SHITTY BUT STILL SAY I AM SCUM

Yeah, whether or not voting yourself in LyLo is gamethrowing is completely irrelevant to your alignment.

I never suggested it was, and I gave many other reasons...

[iraonavp]

Yo ira
News flash
YOU CANT READ ME

Okay, nice to know you know that I am town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

You are not really angry about a theory argument, just caught for the wrong reasons.

Like oh my god
YOU PUSH ME FOR SHITTY REASONS. I TELL YOU THEY ARE SHITTY. AND THEN YOU ADMIT THEY ARE SHITTY BUT STILL SAY I AM SCUM

Yeah, whether or not voting yourself in LyLo is gamethrowing is completely irrelevant to your alignment.

I never suggested it was, and I gave many other reasons...

I explained why those reasons were shitty too!

No, you just spammed in caps and flailed...

[iraonavp]

If it happened every game, it would not upset you...

Okay, you could be banned for strategic replacement then but you can't go back on it now.

[iraonavp]

[iraonavp]

I'm not just saying it's fake. You have reduced my posts to an incredible extent...

Anyway, I am going to go now, nothing to gain from convincing you that you are scum-aligned because you already know!

[iraonavp]

I am betting this game on the katsuki slot being town cause it was pie's strongest read and I don't think that is a fake claim.

What?

He's confirmed as scum-aligned!

[iraonavp]

I was tired. Katsuki was literally confirmed scum from the paint flips we have had and your claim. Im not gonna bother posting about all of that when I get my insulted. (Haha there was more to this sentence but I probably shouldnt)
Dont call me bad at this game. And ESPECIALLY dont call me bad at this game to try to say that I am scum.

Completely inconsistent...

[iraonavp]

Hey guys
I only read like 3 pages so far
But umm...i have reason(related to my role) to believe that mafia can change colors in this game
Is there an explanation for this or...?

Sotty7's role makes perfect sense with this (obvious) crumb.

[iraonavp]

I am betting this game on the katsuki slot being town cause it was pie's strongest read and I don't think that is a fake claim.

What?

He's confirmed as scum-aligned!

I obviously meant kraska here.
like what

Not obvious at all.

[iraonavp]

I am betting this game on the

katsuki

slot being town cause it was pie's strongest read and I don't think that is a fake claim.

[iraonavp]

I think you didn't read the setup, first lynch is color... It's okay, I was confused at first too.

I don't understand why you disbelieve Sotty7's claim, just because of setup misunderstanding?

[iraonavp]

Sotty7 is confirmed as town-aligned, because kraska accidentally claimed PR when she replaced in, and the way she did it also makes perfect sense with Sotty7's claim:

Hey guys
I only read like 3 pages so far
But umm...i have reason(related to my role) to believe that mafia can change colors in this game
Is there an explanation for this or...?

[iraonavp]

Dwlee, how is Thor665's response scum-aligned?

Do you actually think he's trying to save Katsuki? It seems like you are turning null-aligned things into "confirmed as scum-aligned", Thor665 is just trying to understand the game even if he is scum-aligned.

I anticipate having to choose between you and Thor665 tomorrow, so please do not yell at me and spam...

[iraonavp]

katsuki has voted ira for two days straight, plenty of time for scum to come in and quick hammer if katsuki and ira are town.
I'm done with this blubbering discourse
VOTE: katsuki

This is a scumslip because it assumes that he is scum-aligned.

If Dwlee99 was assuming himself to be town-aligned, the game would already be lost if Katsuki was town-aligned, even if I was scum-aligned...

The fact that he says this shows that he misused logic because of knowledge of his alignment.

[iraonavp]

I think that you guys are taking it too slow and it's obviously Katsuki... Should just hammer unless there's anything else to say.

[iraonavp]

Okay nevermind, I got confused and thought you were voting Katsuki somehow, even though you just voted him in that post...

[iraonavp]

I'm not sure why is Katsuki even trying at this point... Quite masochistic.

[iraonavp]

Also notice that Katsuki is only presenting arguments for me being scum-aligned, and Dwlee is now posturing in a different direction after trying to make Thor665 look bad.

[iraonavp]

Any player of any alignment would respond like that because if they are scum-aligned they know that you were lying, incredibly superficial and there is no way you actually believe that...

Thor, it's obviously not me unless you think I immediately bussed Katsuki without fully reading the thread, which I would never do. Dwlee is clearly scum-aligned...

VOTE: Dwlee

[iraonavp]

Completely fake.

[iraonavp]

=)

VOTE: Thor665

[iraonavp]

That was actually not intentional (I thought Dwlee was scum-aligned but realized that it was color lynch), but still funny...