New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Zachstralkita]

So this game is Honey Bunches of Clusterfuck already.


VOTE: Varsoon

I don't know him personally, but he's definitely shifty.

[Zachstralkita]

My vote on Wake is serious based on group dynamic.

Dunn is town based on ihhcihihciydkhckhdohhc rules.

I'm not familiar with the ihhcihihciydkhckhdohhc methodology, but this is a reckless assumption to make.

[Zachstralkita]

Walk on the moon with me. Dunn is town.

I... I don't.. I don't ... want to....

[Zachstralkita]

So this game is Honey Bunches of Clusterfuck already.

What makes you say this? It seems pretty tame to me.

nothing i just now woke up and got the day 1 notification and it was 3 pages so my little brain felt overwhelmed for a second

it's ok i become intellectual at some point later

[Zachstralkita]

Zach's few posts actually feel pretty significantly scummy to me.

HOW BOUT I, I, I COME TO THAT HOUSE THAT YO FAMILY IN KICK THE DOOR TURN, CRACK GRANNY THEN, SPIN GIVE AuNTIE 10 SO FOR ALL THAT ACTING YOU GON... HEAR A LOT OF CLAPPING LIKE I JUST BROUGHT A GRAMMY IN

[Zachstralkita]

Can I make a formal request that Zach be the first official wagon of this game? Thank you all for your cooperation .

FOR ALL THAT RIFF T-RAFF I PUT THE CLICK-CLICK TO DAD THE CHK-CHK TO MOMS WE IN HIS HOUSE WITH BALLISTIC MAGS LIKE

SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH... SHUT THE FUC- yo bro... hit the stash

and hurry up... im tryna catch the last PISTONS HALF

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Almost50

I'll need a 3 paragraph case on this, complete with numbered list thanks

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Wake88

[Zachstralkita]

Ok Sickofit1138 and Zachstralkita both mafia

HEARD HE BE SNITCHING, WELL LET ME FIND OUT HE POINTING FINGERS I BRING HIS HAND BACK PROMO VAN BLAM THAT WHOLE FUCKING FAM WHACKED, WIFEY DUCT TAPED SARAN WRAPPED AND AMTRAK'D

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral is clearly wrong. As is IMPLOSION

I'd prefer an Airick10 wagon to sickofit

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral is clearly wrong. As is IMPLOSION

I'd prefer an Airick10 wagon to sickofit

Why?

Well, V/LA is the perfect " NOT GET LYNCHED" card. I also kind of feel like he should have tried to post more if he knew he was going to be VLA the next few days. Not that there was too much info to go off of, but yeah.

[Zachstralkita]

In all seriousness though, Zach, are you questioning the integrity of his V/LA? Because that's really the only reading I can get out of the first sentence of 161.

Negatory. It's something about his aura that's pinging me.

Someone else's aura is pinging me too. Oh. It's Wake.

and it's not like some player in a sea of 19 players with no one having their eyes on them in particular is going to pull out their "NOT GET LYNCHED" card one RL day into d1.

Look how well it's working.

[Zachstralkita]

It's just that phrasing. "NOT GET LYNCHED" card. It's like you're implying it's some pocket tactic that he's pulling out to preemptively dodge pressure which is just such an unlikely line of thought.

Not what I was implying, were I implying anything.

I just really don't like the direction of criticism towards the declaration of v/la. Or the fact that when I question you about it you become more vague and say that "his aura is pinging you."

What you like and don't like has no relevant effect on me, sir. I can tell you you're way off though, like Titanic engineer schematic level of wrong.

[Zachstralkita]

Probably because your reads suck and/or you're mafia

Feel free to join the approved lynches of Sickofit/Zach/A50

haha this guy thinks hes power town that's so cute ! ! !

[Zachstralkita]

Titus is okayish to me, although his interaction with Wake is shady. Dunnstral is kinda weird with "figuring out" scum teams, but okay for now. Zach will get serious or get lynched.

VOTE: Sickofit1138

How the fuck am I not serious? Start scumhunting YG.

Zachstral shannon maf team

If I was a mafia team with him I'd have replaced out by now, I can only imagine how annoying mafia chat must be

It's a shame I'm not scum..

[Zachstralkita]

My vote is still on Wake, which is where I want it to be.

[Zachstralkita]

Ok Sickofit1138 and Zachstralkita both mafia

HEARD HE BE SNITCHING, WELL LET ME FIND OUT HE POINTING FINGERS I BRING HIS HAND BACK PROMO VAN BLAM THAT WHOLE FUCKING FAM WHACKED, WIFEY DUCT TAPED SARAN WRAPPED AND AMTRAK'D

This is going to get really annoying if we have to deal with it all game. I don't know how many townies there are here, but can we afford to lose one if it helps the sanity of the rest of us?

You don't know my role though. And you just assumed it.......................... but at the same time you say I'm scum.


VOTE: shannon

[Zachstralkita]

Yo Transcend, how about you come to my fucking aid pretty please with sugar on top. I can't work my magic and find scum (which I already have) if I'm dead.

[Zachstralkita]

Ok Sickofit1138 and Zachstralkita both mafia

HEARD HE BE SNITCHING, WELL LET ME FIND OUT HE POINTING FINGERS I BRING HIS HAND BACK PROMO VAN BLAM THAT WHOLE FUCKING FAM WHACKED, WIFEY DUCT TAPED SARAN WRAPPED AND AMTRAK'D

This is going to get really annoying if we have to deal with it all game. I don't know how many townies there are here, but can we afford to lose one if it helps the sanity of the rest of us?

Zachstral shannon maf team

If I was a mafia team with him I'd have replaced out by now, I can only imagine how annoying mafia chat must be

scumslip

Why would you consider voting with me?

Because you're a good town leader IF you're town???

You're currently voting me, which means you're scumreading me no?

It was my RVS, so I could not have developed any reads at that point. NO.

Actually I find Titus to be the worst town leader and worst scum leader ever. She is like, totally forgettable.
She doesn't appreciate hugs, nor does she like when we get personal with her.
The winking is making my contact lens dry out.

Anyway, I don't like Trans for refusing to wagon Zach when imp made a valid request. Still doing catchup atm.
VOTE: Zach

[Zachstralkita]

performer you're not living up to ur avi dude

anyway i don't like #204 (omitting the vote on me)

so you don't like transcend for ignoring a ML wagon on me because people don't like the way I play? that would imply i'm for sure scum, and when i flip are you going to like him then?

and it was a "VALID" request LMAOOO


implosion's detective skills deserve a gold star too but he's pretty far off the mark on this one. most people do the same thing when i first meet them.


I wish I was Dunn so people can dickride me too. Dunn hasn't offered any points toward my lynch, you guys just gravitate to what he says.

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn himself is going to shoot back in here and say I'm town in a bit.

[Zachstralkita]

I admit your goldstar pic was hilarious. I would vote Tran but a vanity vote wouldn't be very helpful.
I'm having a brain freeze but I don't understand the Sick wagon. I need to reevaluate his ISO.

Join me and vote scum. Abandon your preconceptions.

[Zachstralkita]

Other than "vote is still on wake it's where I want it" and a post with naked vote on Wake, I don't see a case from you on Wake?

My vote is now on shannon who I'm quite sure is scum, but my case on Wake is as follows:

He's basically talking noise. That colored reads list was great. I'm not buying fucking cupcakes though.

#147 is a long(er) post, but all that could have been said in about two or three sentences. I don't like that. I don't like it when it looks like you're saying a lot when you're not actually saying anything.


The crux of the matter anyway, if I'm not mistaken, was that Titus was talking to someone and wanted THAT PERSON to answer her questions rather than Wake doing it. Wake however, jumped on it.

Why are you interrupting me Wake?

Almost, do you have any reads now?

This isn't a 19-man face-to-face conversation. It's a message-board thread.

Please don't avoid my questions Titus. It's making me feel uncomfortable about your alignment.

1)

You said that someone voting you means that person is scumreading you.

2)

I say that's not necessarily true, because it isn't.

3)

Instead of responding to my point you ask me why I'm interrupting you.

4)

Me: Like why are you not being logically and why are you avoiding the point. Please respond to my points Titus.

Yeah, a vote at this point is a scumread from someone actively following along, or it's someone who has no desire to sort the thread, which is a scumclaim. Your vote says "I want this person removed from the game".

You're being semantic and interrupting my questioning trying to sort Almost and trying to play semantic games while interpreting someone else's read rather than letting them speak for themselves.

See I don't really agree with that, and I say that with all the respect in the world. I've seen players vote other people they didn't necessarily Sumread just to see what their reaction would be. Heck, I've done that in the past. So knowing that when you say voting someone means you Scumread the person I have to say 'wait, that's not true, and here's why.'

I feel like you're inappropriately attaching meanings to actions and, well, if you're Town Town wouldn't do that. It's not true that a vote on someone at this point is a Scumread from someone actively following along. It's not automatically true. But you also change the meaning mid-sentence by saying OR the vote's from someone who has no desire to sort the thread. Which is it, and why must it be either? And then you attach a further meaning onto the second option by saying it must be a Scumclaim. I'm sorry but you're not being logically accurate, and at this point I'm trying to understand if it's just honest mistakes or something more deliberate. Whatever the case this needs to be sorted out immediately.

It also looks like you're attaching yet another meaning to that vote, that the voter wants someone removed from the game. You can't assume that. Not if you're honest. The person casting the vote could also be looking for reactions.

What you mistake for semantics is me trying to pin down exactly what you're trying to say (and what you mean), and wanting you to slow down and clarify your ungrounded assumptions. I have the right to question you whenever I want so long as the Day is open, and so does everyone else to anyone else. I have zero reason to wait until you and he are done exchanging, because you can easily see my post in the feed and respond back eventually. It's not even something to argue about, and instead tells me it's a distraction to try and get me off you with my questions.

Will you please acknowledge that someone voting you

does not

necessarily mean they're Scumreading you?

I'm sure Titus is experienced so she would.. be aware of this at the very least. Why is it worth a 3-4 paragraph post? I know how smart you are, Wake. You don't have to rub it in.

[Zachstralkita]

I know it's the norm to lynch Town Day 1, but no one can say I'm not trying when you're playing the game of " whose bullshit is wrapped up in the most attractive packaging?" and sheeping that vote.

I probably don't even have half majority, but if this situation doesn't shift I'm going to dial down my operating processes to level 2 and communicate soley in BARS.

[Zachstralkita]

Nah, he's right. shannon is probably town. 175 isn't an argument that I think scum are particularly likely to be the first to make in this kind of game, the follow-up in 184 also is a post that I see scum as unlikely to make.

That's horrible.

Those aren't even really arguments either.

[Zachstralkita]

I mean, it could be, but I'm inclined to see it as town.

of course u are cause she said it about your #1 scumread!!!!!!

[Zachstralkita]

Zach, can you clarify exactly what you meant with 161? I understand (although disagree with) the point that you'd have liked for him to say more before he disappeared. But the first sentence still doesn't make sense to me. And I still don't understand what the post was about if you were actually only scumreading him for tonal/gut reasons (which is the only way I can interpret "aura", correct me if I'm wrong).

That post didn't really mean much at all. Gut, sure, but I'd be a fool to try and gauge something reasonable from 2 posts.

I mean, it could be, but I'm inclined to see it as town.

of course u are cause she said it about your #1 scumread!!!!!!

I mean, I would be pretty surprised if you two were scum together ~_~

You'll be surprised to learn that that's statistically impossible given I am not scum.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach i'm like pretty close to townreading you. I just need you to give me some more to work with.

How does that work? You're the sole benefactor of my wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

Fun fact guys, Dunnstral has hard tunneled me D1-2 before and I flipped Town. He just gets a little excited sometimes.

Zach i'm like pretty close to townreading you. I just need you to give me some more to work with.

How does that work? You're the sole benefactor of my wagon.

I find that strange as well, imp saying he is close to townreading you . Not only that, but him saying his tone is typically scumread by others, is also frankly weird.

Are you going to.. do anything about this?

[Zachstralkita]

Fun fact guys, Dunnstral has hard tunneled me D1-2 before and I flipped Town. He just gets a little excited sometimes.

Zach i'm like pretty close to townreading you. I just need you to give me some more to work with.

How does that work? You're the sole benefactor of my wagon.

I find that strange as well, imp saying he is close to townreading you . Not only that, but him saying his tone is typically scumread by others, is also frankly weird.

Are you going to.. do anything about this?

I am going to wait and see. imp is hardly the type to lurk.

Now's probably a time to get this shannon counterwagon going pal, I know you put the slot into null but I have a scouter-type ability for finding scum (which people....don't really put faith in... but it works)

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach, what makes you so sure shannon is scum? Several people marked her as town, this is a potentially dangerous move for you.

Apparently my fucking intake of oxygen is a dangerous move for me seeing all these votes come my way for being my damn self. And it's not like a lot of people saying someone's town... makes them town. Simple as. Good scum can have the whole game townread them and no one will know until it's too late and we get fucked in our sleep. Not that shannon's good scum, she has too few posts for me to make a judgement on the skill of her scumminess, but just enough for me to determine that she is, in fact, scum.

It's just that phrasing. "NOT GET LYNCHED" card. It's like you're implying it's some pocket tactic that he's pulling out to preemptively dodge pressure which is just such an unlikely line of thought.

Not what I was implying, were I implying anything.

I just really don't like the direction of criticism towards the declaration of v/la. Or the fact that when I question you about it you become more vague and say that "his aura is pinging you."

What you like and don't like has no relevant effect on me, sir. I can tell you you're way off though, like Titanic engineer schematic level of wrong.

The biggest problem with the Titanic wasn't that there were engineering problems, but rather that they didn't understand how brittle steel could get at lower temperatures. Well that and it hit a iceberg.

Look at that, you learn something new everyday.

[Zachstralkita]

Not only that, but him saying his tone is typically scumread by others, is also frankly weird.

I got pretty aggravatingly mislynched in a recent game over what felt like just people saying I felt off with no other good justification (particularly I note that Kmd pushes me for "a lack of perceived genuineness") and I'm still a bit salty over it.

It was mostly aggravating because it was like the first game in forever where I felt really good about my reads and it turned out that they were really good and I got lynched anyway, but that's beside the point.

How does that work? You're the sole benefactor of my wagon.

It works because you've been doing things that want to make me townread you but there are still things I'm trying to see the town motivation for, hence my line of questioning.

Okay I'll help you out with that, wave your magic wand and make this wagon disappear, thank you based wizard.

[Zachstralkita]

And I don't think that sickofit is a good wagon atm. His stuff feels tonally really weird but I'm not convinced it's in a scummy way and almost everything he's posted has been taking stances on people with reasoning so I'm not keen on that wagon atm.

You must atone for your sins. Smite shannon.

I want to say that if Dunnstral keeps up this wagon he's probably scum LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

or should i do what i do every game and say scum!Dunnstral is too smart to hard wagon me

but that's WIFOM CENTRAL

[Zachstralkita]

I don't understand the Sickofit hype to be perfectly honest. I feel like it's a waste of time along with my wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

Yo Transcend, how about you come to my fucking aid pretty please with sugar on top. I can't work my magic and find scum (which I already have) if I'm dead.

I wish I was Dunn so people can dickride me too. Dunn hasn't offered any points toward my lynch, you guys just gravitate to what he says.

Dunn himself is going to shoot back in here and say I'm town in a bit.

Why would I do that?

Fun fact guys, Dunnstral has hard tunneled me D1-2 before and I flipped Town. He just gets a little excited sometimes.

You seem to be considering me squarely as town awfully early

What a weird way to interpret that. That's not what I said or meant.

This is not somethign you say if you're town because ideally you want to see what I do for myself, instead it looks like you're trying to scare me away off of you

You're not the one who actually determines what I say if I'm Town, I'm the towniest of them all and those words have come forth directly from my thoughts, bounced off of my keyboard keys and appeared on your screen. Try me boi

[Zachstralkita]

So let me get this right.
Wagon analysis here we go: 2/4 votes are RVS on Wake. 1/4 is from a guy no one even played with. 1/4 is from someone who hasn't said why, and requests me to join the wagon.
This must be the Twilight Zone. Or you guys are aliens.

Pretty much

Nah, he's right. shannon is probably town. 175 isn't an argument that I think scum are particularly likely to be the first to make in this kind of game, the follow-up in 184 also is a post that I see scum as unlikely to make.

That's horrible.

Those aren't even really arguments either.

Meanwhile you have no arguments against shannon and absolutely no reason to be pushing her over someone else (there are scummy people)

Except I do, shannon pretty much slipped and kase klosed.

[Zachstralkita]

Need I remind you that you have literally no argument against me? Are you sure you're not on drugs? You've never shared with me

[Zachstralkita]

You appear just to make false statements about me and diffuse what I say? I'm not that important.

I get you pride yourself on your " scum hunting abilities " that's all well and dandy but you need to ease up fore u get keyed up cause we G'd up

[Zachstralkita]

You seem to be considering me squarely as town awfully early

This is hilarious. When other people do this you're getting " THE RESPECT YOU DESERVE", but if I do it (and not that I did) I'm scum?

You're conf biasing the shit out of yourself.

[Zachstralkita]

My main point with shannon is you don't say someone's a townie you can afford to lose and then say they're mafia (But not teamed with you, because that would be so annoyingly unbearable!) in almost the same breath.


Feel free to lynch scum any time you guys want, not even shannon but the main wagons are most likely town right now.(Wake is not a main wagon at the moment)

[Zachstralkita]

You're conf biasing

This is Zach knowing I'm town again

You get a silver star this game.

I don't know that you're town. I was about to add " OR YOU'RE SCUM " to that, but I was considering the possibility that this turns out to be one of those Energizer bunny TvTs that happens a lot between us.

It's like you want me to wagon you.

Unvote

VOTE: boem

Are you going to... explain this? Was boem even on your radar prior to th-

[Zachstralkita]

That's not a scum slip any way you slice it

I'm not scum any way you slice it.

Except I do, shannon pretty much slipped and kase klosed.

Spoiler: the thing zach is calling a scumslip

Ok Sickofit1138 and Zachstralkita both mafia

HEARD HE BE SNITCHING, WELL LET ME FIND OUT HE POINTING FINGERS I BRING HIS HAND BACK PROMO VAN BLAM THAT WHOLE FUCKING FAM WHACKED, WIFEY DUCT TAPED SARAN WRAPPED AND AMTRAK'D

This is going to get really annoying if we have to deal with it all game. I don't know how many townies there are here, but can we afford to lose one if it helps the sanity of the rest of us?

Zachstral shannon maf team

If I was a mafia team with him I'd have replaced out by now, I can only imagine how annoying mafia chat must be

scumslip

I read shannon's post as "I want to policy lynch Zach." I don't agree with doing that, but I don't think it's a scumslip. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you're hearing "Zach's town, but can we kill him anyway," and I think it's, "I don't care if he's scum or town."


In my experience, scumslips are more overt than this.

She says "I can only imagine how annoying mafia chat must be", which reinforces the belief that I am scum. It is not " I don't care if he's scum or town ". It would be without that sentence.

[Zachstralkita]

BARS

YOU WELCOME IN ST.LOUIS, BUT YOU GOTTA FOLLOW OUR LAWS THOUGH

FIRST IS YOU DON'T KNOW NOBODY KEEP A SMALL CONVO AND LOSE SOME OF THIS GOD DAMN SWAG THAT'LL GET YO JAW BROKE

DON'T DRIVE NO WHIP THAT FLASH, YOU GET YOUR CAR YOKED

...

Y'ALL BE ON THAT RAZOR BUCK FIFTY LEAVING A SCARRED THROAT? WE BARBECUE WEENIE Y'ALL PARTNAS, GET YA DOGS SMOKED

[Zachstralkita]

I have a scouter-type ability for finding scum (which people....don't really put faith in... but it works)

when i was 4 years old and got asked what i'm gonna be when i grow up, i said: 'SPACESHIP'

i believe i've succeeded

That's inspirational.

Hey, are you making fun of me?

[Zachstralkita]

Need I remind you that you have literally no argument against me? Are you sure you're not on drugs? You've never shared with me

@dunnstral drug dealing is bad

Spoiler:

the war on drugs is actually a farce to profit off the millions of drug users imprisoned in the prison industrial complex. prohibition creates a black market which results in more violence, the " gateway " effect, other crimes associated with illegal activity, less harm reduction and more deaths associated with drug use as well as negative stigma toward drug users in general. the war on drugs was started during the Reagan administration and garnered him a lot of favor, which is ironic considering Oliver North and the CIA trafficked cocaine(see:Iran-Contra) and ronald reagan himself traded arms to terrorists for hostages. while it cannot be proven that the CIA actually invented crack cocaine to disrupt black communities, the CIA did import more cocaine into the united states than all the poverty-stricken communities combined could hope to use up in a lifetime. without illegal drugs, the DEA would not have excuses for jobs and would not have profit.

ok Zach mafia with either Shannon or Transcend

OK, who is NOT mafia in this game? Cuz you've voted or pointed the FoS on almost everything that moves thus far.

Wait a minute.. that must mean..

That's inspirational.

Hey, are you making fun of me?

that would be awesome. dial it up once you figure it out

It's middle school all over again, huh. Hmmm... what do spaceships do... they rEACH FOR THE STARS?

no? Fuck.

[Zachstralkita]

ok Zach mafia with either Shannon or Transcend

OK, who is NOT mafia in this game? Cuz you've voted or pointed the FoS on almost everything that moves thus far.

Alright let me break this one down for you

[Titus, Lapsa]
[Boem_u_dusi, implosion, Wake88]
[Nosferatu, Performer, Varsoon, Mirhawk]
[Airick10, Agar, podoboq, PeregrineV, shannon]
[Transcend, Almost50]
[Zachstralkita, Sickofit1138]

That mid to lower half of it sucks



Stop letting your delusions get to you, let's get a real wagon going here

[Zachstralkita]

I don't understand how you can see nothing bad in what sickofit has been posting

Weird, sure. Scum, not really.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't understand how you can see nothing bad in what sickofit has been posting

Weird, sure. Scum, not really.

This makes me think Sickofit could be town and Zach actually knows it.

No. I've already voiced this. I just feel it's a stupid lynch just like mine.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think he would defend his scummate like this, but then again who knows.

You said I'd probably be an ML then you say he's my scummate. Is that hypothetical or what?

this is a potentially dangerous move for you.

Thanks for reminding me, implosion.

This pinged to me sketch as fuck.

????????

[Zachstralkita]

This is a good time to point out that the shannon lynch is gaining no traction and I'm very disappointed.

[Zachstralkita]

????????

?????????

I re-skimmed the thread before making my reads list. I had forgotten about Boem's weird post, and am glad implosion brought it up, because it's weird.

I thought you were addressing me with it then realized you were addressing him. All is well.

[Zachstralkita]

That's an inconsistency, not a scumslip. It's scummy, and it might even be worth votes

Okay. Not a scumslip. Still scummy. Still want to kill.

[Zachstralkita]

Alright let me break this one down for you

[Titus, Lapsa]
[Boem_u_dusi, implosion, Wake88]
[Nosferatu, Performer, Varsoon, Mirhawk]
[Airick10, Agar, podoboq, PeregrineV, shannon]
[Transcend, Almost50]
[Zachstralkita, Sickofit1138]

Right. Now let ME break it down for you:

[Titus, Lapsa]
[Boem_u_dusi, implosion,

Wake88

]
[

Nosferatu

, Performer, Varsoon, Mirhawk]
[Airick10, Agar,

podoboq

, PeregrineV,

shannon

]
[

Transcend

,

Almost50

]
[

Zachstralkita

,

Sickofit1138

]

In just 26 posts you voted 6 & stated suspicion of 2 = 8 total players thus far. Those you voted are marked in

red

, and those you FoS'd but didn't vote in

blue

.

P.S. Before you ask: Your 12 in response to Titus implies you ARE scum reading Wake, but can't vote him bc you only have one vote. You didn't say something along the lines of "I'm not scum reading him" or "I'm not sure about him" either. You implied willingness to vote there if you could.

As for Nos:

Probably because your reads suck

and/or you're mafia

hardly suggests you're town reading him too.

I can hardly see 6 scum in the setup (unless it's MB which I have no means to decide whether it is the case or not). 6 is too much IMHO, and 8 is like you're suspecting 42% of the player list already.

You know what? I'll leave you be for now. You do as you wish. Just letting you know that spreading suspicion about as many players is a scumtell of my own (i.e. I'm scum reading you now for that particular reason, as it looks like you just want to lynch someone regardless).

That post was beautifully executed, but you deciding to "let him go"... is a bit dismaying and defeats the purpose, no?

[Zachstralkita]

My stuff on shannon is only if Zach is mafia

Must be wrong then.

[Zachstralkita]

Titus/Lapsa are town because I said so

I told you he gets excited.

[Zachstralkita]

@mod A50 is voting Dunn

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Let's see if we can coerce you to use more than " because I said so " as a reason for anything.

[Zachstralkita]

Oh, I did detect a disturbance in the force.

That seems to be an excuse for you to not try, as there is information contained within my posts ( that aren't those posts) and... that's it. LMFAO

I'm not sure what to tell you, if it upsets you that much look away from the screen? Blink a lot? Wear shades? Turn your computer off?

*tr on shannon intensifies*

*disdain intensifies*

[Zachstralkita]

Deep breaths. Deeeep breaths.

[Zachstralkita]

The reason I mentioned mafia chat is because someone accused us of being scum together. I was reinforcing my dislike for your playstyle by saying that if we were, I would be out by now, because I can't imagine having to read a whole chat full of it.

How are you the one telling me to read between the lines? I'm not such an invalid that I'd communicate like that in a PT, LOL

A50 is looking really townie on p 14.

Zach, the thing is that there's no reason for you to post all the extra stuff. It's not 'flavour' or being friendly and building rapport with others, it's distracting and totally unhelpful. The thread is already busy enough with everyone posting legit stuff, we don't need all caps song lyrics as well. Are you using them to communicate some secret message to a team member or something?

Oh yeah, definitely.

I hate for you to find out like this, but the world does not revolve around your whims nor will it begin to.

Zach > shannon imo

That's what's good widdit

[Zachstralkita]

If I'm that annoying I'll find my way dead without a lynch, not to mention Titus and Lapsa have made it really fucking difficult for people to believe me when I say I'M the one with a Macho role modifier.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Sickofit

Zach is maybe town

That's what I thought, stay in your lane next time.

VOTE: Wake88

Back to this.

[Zachstralkita]

We might as well mark Dunn town now, there's been a thing or two that he's said that convinces me of it. That vote on him
earlier was for a rxn, but he didn't give me one.

[Zachstralkita]

Other than "vote is still on wake it's where I want it" and a post with naked vote on Wake, I don't see a case from you on Wake?

My vote is now on shannon who I'm quite sure is scum, but my case on Wake is as follows:

He's basically talking noise. That colored reads list was great. I'm not buying fucking cupcakes though.

#147 is a long(er) post, but all that could have been said in about two or three sentences. I don't like that. I don't like it when it looks like you're saying a lot when you're not actually saying anything.


The crux of the matter anyway, if I'm not mistaken, was that Titus was talking to someone and wanted THAT PERSON to answer her questions rather than Wake doing it. Wake however, jumped on it.

Why are you interrupting me Wake?

Almost, do you have any reads now?

This isn't a 19-man face-to-face conversation. It's a message-board thread.

Please don't avoid my questions Titus. It's making me feel uncomfortable about your alignment.

1)

You said that someone voting you means that person is scumreading you.

2)

I say that's not necessarily true, because it isn't.

3)

Instead of responding to my point you ask me why I'm interrupting you.

4)

Me: Like why are you not being logically and why are you avoiding the point. Please respond to my points Titus.

Yeah, a vote at this point is a scumread from someone actively following along, or it's someone who has no desire to sort the thread, which is a scumclaim. Your vote says "I want this person removed from the game".

You're being semantic and interrupting my questioning trying to sort Almost and trying to play semantic games while interpreting someone else's read rather than letting them speak for themselves.

See I don't really agree with that, and I say that with all the respect in the world. I've seen players vote other people they didn't necessarily Sumread just to see what their reaction would be. Heck, I've done that in the past. So knowing that when you say voting someone means you Scumread the person I have to say 'wait, that's not true, and here's why.'

I feel like you're inappropriately attaching meanings to actions and, well, if you're Town Town wouldn't do that. It's not true that a vote on someone at this point is a Scumread from someone actively following along. It's not automatically true. But you also change the meaning mid-sentence by saying OR the vote's from someone who has no desire to sort the thread. Which is it, and why must it be either? And then you attach a further meaning onto the second option by saying it must be a Scumclaim. I'm sorry but you're not being logically accurate, and at this point I'm trying to understand if it's just honest mistakes or something more deliberate. Whatever the case this needs to be sorted out immediately.

It also looks like you're attaching yet another meaning to that vote, that the voter wants someone removed from the game. You can't assume that. Not if you're honest. The person casting the vote could also be looking for reactions.

What you mistake for semantics is me trying to pin down exactly what you're trying to say (and what you mean), and wanting you to slow down and clarify your ungrounded assumptions. I have the right to question you whenever I want so long as the Day is open, and so does everyone else to anyone else. I have zero reason to wait until you and he are done exchanging, because you can easily see my post in the feed and respond back eventually. It's not even something to argue about, and instead tells me it's a distraction to try and get me off you with my questions.

Will you please acknowledge that someone voting you

does not

necessarily mean they're Scumreading you?

I'm sure Titus is experienced so she would.. be aware of this at the very least. Why is it worth a 3-4 paragraph post? I know how smart you are, Wake. You don't have to rub it in.

This is basically what I said about Wake, tldr his posting is a lot of static to me


There is scum most certainly on my/Sickofit's wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

@podo Hmm.

We might as well mark Dunn town now, there's been a thing or two that he's said that convinces me of it. That vote on him
earlier was for a rxn, but he didn't give me one.

I need to review Dunn & Almost's chatting. In my skim , it looked like TvT but I'll need to take a closer look .

Why's your vote still on me homie

[Zachstralkita]

If it's going to be anti-town to discuss it any more (for reasons), then I'll drop it.

Why did you word it like this? The very fact you're mentioning it already draws attention and I'm mentioning you mentioning it which means I'M inadvertently mentioning it, which makes this 100% your fault and like 22% mine.


When has it ever been town to discuss such things on Day 1? In THIS SCENARIO, how is it town to discuss it in the first place?

[Zachstralkita]

When has it ever been town to discuss such things on Day 1? In THIS SCENARIO, how is it town to discuss it in the first place?

When the person you're talking about is scum. But my townreads seem to think he isn't, so I'm throwing my hands up on this one.

[Zachstralkita]

Or now.

Ok Sickofit1138 and Zachstralkita both mafia

Why is Zach scum?

I'm contacting you from the future

He's changed his read on me just like I called and knows I'm right

Dunn, in the future next time don't be so difficult

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone thinking wake inturrupting Titus is alignment indicative should think again. I'm fairly certain I've seen the two of them argue about this exact thing before.

If they argued about this exact thing before, what is the exact point of doing it again?


Anyways, I'm pleased to announce I compiled a reads list diagram by hand so you all could see the thought processes I'm cultivating. Complete with key!

Airick and Varsoon are omitted. AGar is most definitely town, and Performer is neutral/townlean.

Spoiler: Town/Key

Spoiler: Neutral/HBP

Spoiler: Scum

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Zach

For emphasis.

Lamisty post definition.

Interesting response, not at all what I was expecting, but I poured my blood, sweat and tears into that shit.

And if you think I of all people need to LAMIST then I want whatever combination of clear alcohol and benzo you're on.

P.s. If you're going to go hand written notes, actually write them.

yea then id have to take pictures and get the pictures on my computer

you don't know me so you don't know how much i hate doing work

[Zachstralkita]

Also school is out. I did not begin summer to put my hands anywhere near paper and writing utensils, thank you very fucking much.

Dude you sat at a paint program and weren't smart enough to use the type button.

That's Lamisty and a trick from my playbook...3 years ago.

I didn't use text on purpose. If I was typing stuff I should have just... typed it in thread derrrr

Dude you sat at a paint program and weren't smart enough to use the type button.

That's Lamisty and a trick from my playbook...3 years ago.

Is what you're doing right now a trick from your lynch town playbook?

Pretty good play, I must admit.

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach, Nope but what you're doing is.

That makes not a lick of sense considering I'm voting Wake, who you were voting before voting me.

Also, you were voting me before you voted me just now. Talk about obsessions?


I promise you good town members, the names listed on my scum list are most certainly accurate.

[Zachstralkita]

Also Wake/Titus arguing with each other is perfectly valid as a scumteam. This is not concrete though, I want Wake to post more and the Wake thing is optional and has no bearing on Titus's status as scum or not.

[Zachstralkita]

Handwritten notes
Confirmation I was scum

I'm sorry to inform you that those two links have jack shit to do with ME being scum, however. You should have put that together by now.


Humans are fickle.


(That was also nice but when I made that post initially, I was looking to pay homage to a GOAT. Let me see if I can find it.)

[Zachstralkita]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7971877

There we go. That guy is a fucking G.


I'll toss in that he flipped VT just for fun.

[Zachstralkita]

You write like a WWII Marine at Wake Island writing home or someone that wears a monocle, by the way. Another reason you're scum.



I rep for all my non-motor functioning shaky hand arthritis panic attack writing hasn't improved since kindergarten boyz.

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone thinking wake inturrupting Titus is alignment indicative should think again. I'm fairly certain I've seen the two of them argue about this exact thing before.

If they argued about this exact thing before, what is the exact point of doing it again?


Anyways, I'm pleased to announce I compiled a reads list diagram by hand so you all could see the thought processes I'm cultivating. Complete with key!

Airick and Varsoon are omitted. AGar is most definitely town, and Performer is neutral/townlean.

Spoiler: Town/Key

Spoiler: Neutral/HBP

Spoiler: Scum

fucking amazing.

was this drawn with crayons or something?

i laughed for at least 55 seconds.

MS paint. And I'm glad someone appreciates my fucking work.

#437

^ i'm not decyphering that garbage

You're not too much of a crucial point inside of it so that's ok.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Titus

Let's get this going, a Wake push seems dumb until I have more of his posting to go on atm

Yeah, bite me. Handwriting is NAI.

You having to point that out is hilarious. These jokes are shooting over your head.

You're engaging in Lamisty posting. We all know that's why you did it (after all typing is easier).

I have a good idea of what you think you know and are eager to display as the truth, but that doesn't make it absolute.

So you're desperate to look town.

I am going to actually BE town.

I appreciate the effort, but .... nope.

Really? I am dead silent?

Like fuck, intelligence is dead.

You might have killed it and dumped its dismembered body parts in duffel bags in separate areas.

[Zachstralkita]

I have no desire to look town because nothing you say or I do will change the fact that I am town.

You don't HAVE to look town, you just have to not get lynched to win.

You're only rushing to discredit me so people don't put much faith into a scum!You.

[Zachstralkita]

" Handwriting is NAI "

Yeah, no shit. Did you, Wake and Dunnstral study criminology together? LMFAOO

Man, if you were scumhunting when the Zodiac Killer was active we would have caught him in no time.

[Zachstralkita]

" Handwriting is NAI "

Yeah, no shit. Did you, Wake and Dunnstral study criminology together? LMFAOO

Man, if you were scumhunting when the Zodiac Killer was active we would have caught him in no time.

Grr, now you insult my job. I actually am I lawyer and I studied criminology in college.

Prosecutor?

[Zachstralkita]

I have no desire to look town because nothing you say or I do will change the fact that I am town.

You don't HAVE to look town, you just have to not get lynched to win.

You're only rushing to discredit me so people don't put much faith into a scum!You.

Really, then why bother with the handwriting stunt at all? You could have typed your reads. For a lazy person you sure did a lot of work for...trying not to look town.

Cause I felt like it?

And I wasn't trying not to look town, I wasn't trying to look anything.

Enjoy rope, tho.

[Zachstralkita]

" Handwriting is NAI "

Yeah, no shit. Did you, Wake and Dunnstral study criminology together? LMFAOO

Man, if you were scumhunting when the Zodiac Killer was active we would have caught him in no time.

Grr, now you insult my job. I actually am I lawyer and I studied criminology in college.

Prosecutor?

Defense.

If I was a prosecutor, people would see you for what you are.

Nah it would be more like Philip Workman.


This explains why you're doing a good job of defending yourself, but your body has no natural way of defending ITself from life-threatening problems such as lack of oxygen (rope-induced)

[Zachstralkita]

Except I can't scumclaim as town.


Well I could, but it would have to be more like " Hey! I'm scum!" and nothing short of that.

[Zachstralkita]

Titus is town guys

podoboq looks worse than before

mirhawk might be mafia but that's just a feeling

Your reads are worth about as much to me as Ugandan currency to a Finding Nemo character.

*throws hands up*

This new crop doesn't even understand basic terms like AtE.

Appeal to emotion requires an appeal. I'm being emotional but my appeal is based in facts.

Zach's not even coherent as to why he made that post.

Is one of those facts me being scum? Because then it's not a fact. It's an opinion and a lie.

Titus, this court accuses you of 97 counts of being scum in the first degree. How do you plead?

[Zachstralkita]

Zach's not even coherent as to why he made that post.

Cause I felt like it?

And I wasn't trying not to look town, I wasn't trying to look anything.

Also Zach I.... saw that

I poured my heart into it.

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn can't save you now.

NEWLY REFORMED SURPRISE TOWN BLOC, ASSEMBLE!

(it's a surprise town bloc because even the members don't know who they are! but it's not you.)

Zach's not even coherent as to why he made that post.

Cause I felt like it?

And I wasn't trying not to look town, I wasn't trying to look anything.

Also Zach I.... saw that

I poured my heart into it.

Right, people just take 15 minutes out of their day to draw paint pictures for no reason.

You did it to look town.

I don't care who says it's unreasonable. Catching scum isn't unreasonable.

LMFAOOOO HAHAHAHAAGHAHA IM KEEPING THIS SHIT HERE FOR WHEN I FLIP

[Zachstralkita]

I also don't like the "handwritten" stuff from Zach, but I don't think it's scummy for the same reason I don't think his all caps song lyrics are scummy.

They're mostly battle rap bars, but I can switch to song lyrics when I get bored or run out of options. I'm unpredictable like that.

[Zachstralkita]

No Like Titus is seriously town so we'd better vote someone else????

Like Sickofit? Who's more Town than Titus at this point? LMFAO

nt

[Zachstralkita]

It is the job of good scum to make town feel bad about lynching them as they're going down, almost akin to a townie defending themselves.

[Zachstralkita]

It is the job of good scum to make town feel bad about lynching them as they're going down, almost akin to a townie defending themselves.

And it's the job of good scum to paint me as being unreasonable when you did nothing but jump on town credit things.

You tried to imply Lapsa was scum ffs.

wat r u talm bout if i wanted to say lapsa was scum i wouldnt IMPLY it and he would have appeared RED on my SCUM LIST

[Zachstralkita]

It is the job of good scum to make town feel bad about lynching them as they're going down, almost akin to a townie defending themselves.

And it's the job of good scum to paint me as being unreasonable when you did nothing but jump on town credit things.

You tried to imply Lapsa was scum ffs.

wat r u talm bout if i wanted to say lapsa was scum i wouldnt IMPLY it and he would have appeared RED on my SCUM LIST

You implied he lied about being able to be healed by claiming you were the only macho.

hey... hey... HEY!

1. this is not the angle you should be taking in this conversation or during this day


2. u can say I implied something that doesn't make you right


3. I'm not sure what was supposed to go here. It'll come to me. Uh.. try harder.

[Zachstralkita]

I'll take what angle I have to get you to stop lying and lamisting and doubt casting town.

Yeah, either you implied it or you didn't and here you did.

There's plenty of reasons to claim macho (like I said favorite gambit), but you jumped right to everyone is lying.

Except when I " claimed " macho, it wasn't by any means serious.

lamisting, doubt casting town........yeah... no i don't see you there. sorry, scum.

[Zachstralkita]

And in the unlikely event that you happen to be town because I am not oblivious to such possibilities, I'm sure YOU won't regret lynching me, but we'll both wish it was time better spent on doing something productive.

However the way things are going at this moment, it looks like you will die first and I am quite comfortable with that.

[Zachstralkita]

HEADSMAN, READY THE GALLOWS!

I need the rest of town to stop being pansies and get on a real wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

Well you took out half of it.

I have zero faith in town. You have to force the rest of town to think with brains instead of feels.

@Zach, Oh now your posts are jokes...hnph. Yeah we'll go with the joke defense. That has about a 75% likelihood of being scum (but it failed when a noob used it sooo).

You want to do something productive, stop whining about my scumread, doubtcadting town and do it.

I'm not whining about your scumread. I'm telling you how wrong it is.

Whipped out the percentages makes me laugh more.

Except if we think with " brains " like you're doing, we're going to be knocking off townies left and right, so I'm fine with your lynch.


You'd think you'd actually try and maybe look for scum outside of me, but no you post that in the worst way possible. LOL

[Zachstralkita]

You're not going to patronize me and shake my confidence. If you are town, the worst thing you can do in this situation is continue to tunnel me. But I guess you have to find out the hard way.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't need to. You catch scum. You lynch scum.

People are upset with me for questioning you and being emotional.

I will find other scum by pushing to get you lynched.

That would imply I'm not scum or that my hypothetical " scumpartners " will come to my aid.




Well, I tried to help you but I guess you can just do your own thing.

[Zachstralkita]

Remember how Dwlee got did in Borderlands Mafia? That's what you're doing to me right now.

Don't feel bad about it, everyone's gotta be wrong sometimes.

You're not going to patronize me and shake my confidence. If you are town, the worst thing you can do in this situation is continue to tunnel me. But I guess you have to find out the hard way.

The best thing I can do is tunnel you as town until you do something other than whine about being caught and do something that's not a "joke" or trying to act townie.

HAHAHAH have fun with that

[Zachstralkita]

I don't need to. You catch scum. You lynch scum.

People are upset with me for questioning you and being emotional.

I will find other scum by pushing to get you lynched.

That would imply I'm not scum or that my hypothetical " scumpartners " will come to my aid.




Well, I tried to help you but I guess you can just do your own thing.

Yes. That's a correct implication.

Now who is patronizing. Even you transparently think I'm town here in this post.

Nope. it could be interpreted as that sure.

Patronizing implies I feel superior to you. I don't. It's pity.

Remember how Dwlee got did in Borderlands Mafia? That's what you're doing to me right now.

Don't feel bad about it, everyone's gotta be wrong sometimes.

You're not going to patronize me and shake my confidence. If you are town, the worst thing you can do in this situation is continue to tunnel me. But I guess you have to find out the hard way.

The best thing I can do is tunnel you as town until you do something other than whine about being caught and do something that's not a "joke" or trying to act townie.

HAHAHAH have fun with that

Yeah, and you're voting obvtown in that setup.

I also recognize borderlands. I was there. You weren't unless this is an alt to seem newer than you are.

I didn't say I was there. I loosely followed that game before i joined this site.

You of all people are not obvtown, by the way.

[Zachstralkita]

Honest question, do you genuinely believe I'm not town? LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

Because I know people like to convince themselves of things and then act accordingly on false assumptions.

[Zachstralkita]

Yes I do.

Dwlee was obvtown in borderlands but no one liked him. I fought HARD against that lynch. You calling me Dwlee is an admission you know I am town.

Not an admission of anything, you're a lawyer not a therapist.


Dwlee was the obvtown that argued for his defense and his defense got seen as scummy, then he got lynched hard. I said that was happening right now because for most of today I've had more votes than you and was a more likely lynch candidate up to this point. I mentioned that because you gunning for my lynch is just like insert X player here pushing Dwlee.

[Zachstralkita]

I didn't call YOU Dwlee, by the way. I specifically said it was what you were doing to ME.

[Zachstralkita]

Analogy: ME:DWLEE YOU:TSO

If you're town: YOU:VARSOON

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah now you're trying to paint yourself as town no one likes.

Call me when you're ready to lynch this or take me out.

A town that let's this live will believe any lie and deserves to lose.

VLA 3days

Okay, you're not gonna like when you see my flip though.

[Zachstralkita]

I wish I could get upset to get myself out of situations and other people into them. I hope you get a neck massage or a lot of meditation or cigarettes or something, because you are very tense.

If anyone's opposed to lynching a V/LA we can switch to Nos as I'm fine with that.

Call me when you're ready to lynch this or take me out.

A town that let's this live will believe any lie and deserves to lose.

Tunneling Town: Volume II by Titus

With foreword from Dunnstral

[Zachstralkita]

I could vote myself and you'd still need an NK to touch me. Facts.

yeah everyone disappeared and this thread became me vs titus

[Zachstralkita]

Just to reiterate I have Titus firmly as town

You posted that in the last post you posted

[Zachstralkita]

Just to reiterate I have Titus firmly as town

You posted that in the last post you posted

My bet? He's scum and looking for town cred when he gets lynched.

I've already discounted the possibility of Dunnscum in my head, as much as it pains me to say it.

[Zachstralkita]

#437 transcribed: His reads are too blatantly shit to be scum.

Also he's said a few quotes that make it very certain in my mind he's Town tbh... don't let that stop you though.

[Zachstralkita]

Hbd Funnstral maybe u can get a better scumdar

[Zachstralkita]

Sickofit1138 (4): PeregrineV, Boem_u_dusi, Mirhawk, Dunnstral

This is a bw of garbage and probably indirectly makes this slot town, even though i null read him.

Finally someone fuckin said it

[Zachstralkita]

Transc bruh u fuckin up right now Titus needs 2 die or stop wagoning me

Makes sense I guess. I was wondering if it was some kind of point system (person has done x scummy things) or something like that.

I'm legit caught up now.

Unvote
Vote: Zach

His reads feel faked to me, both the list he presented and the way he interacts with them.

I'm also not a fan on Transcend. Sick's getting a pass for now as they've pretty much dropped off the radar.

Lol those numbers are very crucial. Very crucial



What point does it serve AGar to " forget" about Titus' scumgame? Sounds like bullshit.

[Zachstralkita]

the chart says lynchability, so most likely on a scale of 1-10 that's how much he would lynch them.

is what i gathered.

formerly townread shannon, makes a naked vote, 10/10 lynch.


titus flails under pressure, better stay away from her, 1/10 lynch.

As expected Dunn is being puppeteered

[Zachstralkita]

It seems Mirhawk and Titus want me dead before I can do anything remotely similar to them

[Zachstralkita]

I've just referred to my list and realized Mirhawk is neutral. This may have been overshadowed by the fact that he's voting me

[Zachstralkita]

since zach (my puppet master) wants this hanged

lol...

LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

Transc bruh u fuckin up right now Titus needs 2 die or stop wagoning me

Makes sense I guess. I was wondering if it was some kind of point system (person has done x scummy things) or something like that.

I'm legit caught up now.

Unvote
Vote: Zach

His reads feel faked to me, both the list he presented and the way he interacts with them.

I'm also not a fan on Transcend. Sick's getting a pass for now as they've pretty much dropped off the radar.

Lol those numbers are very crucial. Very crucial



What point does it serve AGar to " forget" about Titus' scumgame? Sounds like bullshit.

Scum jumping on a mislynch to possibly protect a buddy
Town scared of doing nothing
Town that has caught the stunted mental thought disease

Much more likely the first

How is it " possibly?" I'm supposed to be lock scum to you.


Seriously, you have Dunn but you need to try harder for like everyone else.

@Dunnstral how am I 6/10 on lynchability? I'm practically clear.

I haven't liked Lapsa's most recent posts. Unvotes Titus because the vote's not going to do anything... well it's doing less when you unvote.

[Zachstralkita]

must be out of 950435x then

[Zachstralkita]

Titus, if you're town you should stop looking at everything through the " I'm right " glasses. It helps a lot.

But I doubt that.

[Zachstralkita]

can someone dayvig dunn

[Zachstralkita]

His alive presence is interfering greatly with my scumhunting activities, not to mention he contributes worthless reads to boot

and no fake dayvigs either dont tease me. if you're in this setup then i greatly implore you to use your ability for the greater good

It would help if you avoided rank hypocrisy Zach. You want me to unvote you because it won't go anywhere but Lapsa unvoted me for the same reason, you object.

The difference is:

1) I'm town

2) You're scum

You like that one? Dunnstral taught me.

[Zachstralkita]

The simplest answer is often correct, I am inclined to believe that there are a lot of scummy people because there are 6 baddies this game

I'm not sure that's how Occam's Razor works. At least not the way you're using it.

[Zachstralkita]

3 werewolf

ok we're admitting you into the mental ward, been spending some time on POG have we?

[Zachstralkita]

and I obtained the actual setup details, there's 3 lightkeepers 9 mafia goons and 7 BPs and 1 bad scumhunter ( maybe 2-4)

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral's a member of the bad scumhunter group by the way, he's evidenced that enough.

Titus I will happily lynch myself to spite you, but then again I'm town and enjoy playing to my win condition and you're scum who's backed into a corner(which isn't there and you backed yourself into) and if you're town then you created the corner but it's somehow magically the fault of everyone but you.

You can wait til tomorrow, I'll be dead by daystart.

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral's a member of the bad scumhunter group by the way, he's evidenced that enough.

Titus I will happily lynch myself to spite you

, but then again I'm town and enjoy playing to my win condition and you're scum who's backed into a corner(which isn't there and you backed yourself into) and if you're town then you created the corner but it's somehow magically the fault of everyone but you.

You can wait til tomorrow, I'll be dead by daystart.

I'm refering to bolded/underlined sentences.

1. What is that passive-aggressive bullshit?

2. What makes you so sure about that, I don't see mafia targeting you tonight if they're smart. Assuming you are town.

1. teehee.


2. I was going more along with they'd kill me so they don't have to read more of my posts.

I haven't liked Lapsa's most recent posts. Unvotes Titus because the vote's not going to do anything... well it's doing less when you unvote.

it's not doing less. it does more on a different vector

gtfo or make it worth voting Titus

I would have a snarky reply for this but you used the word " vector ", so you get this round.

??? Titus has made it worth voting Titus.

[Zachstralkita]

So this game is Honey Bunches of Clusterfuck already.

What makes you say this? It seems pretty tame to me.

nothing i just now woke up and got the day 1 notification and it was 3 pages so my little brain felt overwhelmed for a second

it's ok i become intellectual at some point later

You promised, man.

Hey, there's been brief bursts of intellectualism scattered across my posts.

@Zach, You asked this about Agar, I am turning back to you. What scum motivation is there to "back myself into a corner" that isn't there?

You thought I would be the easy lynch that I wasn't? Would you like me to help you out and selfvote?

P.S. I am considering the possibility of you town but at least you have to stop being a hypocrite and only analyzing those who disagree with you.

My handy-dandy reads list did that, most of these players haven't posted more after the thread devolved into me VS. you.

ok we're admitting you into the mental ward, been spending some time on POG have we?

here's a game with 3 mafia and 3 werewolves

is this the time i'm supposed to kiss your butt?

No, not at all actually.

I would have a snarky reply for this but you used the word " vector ", so you get this round.

yes yes, there's no winning jerk-off contest against you.
i'm afraid that's what "scouter-type ability" actually means

??? Titus has made it worth voting Titus.

remind me how

Keeping it a buck here, some little things Titus said have seemed really suicidal to come from scum. I'm not sure whether it's an indication of her being town or just being crafty, but she has to know she dies after my flip so I may begrudgingly dial down my scumread after all... after all those FUCKING POSTS

Have you read the actual game or are you going to harp on me over dumb things

I'm glad that when I ask you to generate constructive reasons for why you are scumreading people, all you conjure up is inconclusive rubbish.
It gives me a lot of confidence in your slot when I tell you that you look like you're just doing busywork and your response is abrasive offense rather than actually following through with your listless observations.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Scum found, GG ez.

I see where you're coming from my good sir, but um.... okay I'll just let you do that..

[Zachstralkita]

Varsoon, *bats eyelashes* that's a bad vote. Don't make me cry Varsoona.

@Zach, I jump on you AFTER your wagon falls apart because you're an easy mislynch... Yes that's consistent (it's not). You've decided I am scum because I scumread you and you're filling in the reasons later.

Someone didn't read the chart.

ANYWAYS, if it weren't for my brilliant defense you probably could have swung that, you just didn't factor in the possibility of a sleek rogue variable like me.

[Zachstralkita]

Keeping it a buck here, some little things Titus said have seemed really suicidal to come from scum. I'm not sure whether it's an indication of her being town or just being crafty, but she has to know she dies after my flip so I may begrudgingly dial down my scumread after all... after all those FUCKING POSTS

dude, why da fuck are you backpedalling?
just a moment ago you disliked me for unvoting Titus.
what exactly you find suicidal?

the uh, lemme campaign for zach's death?

I'm still fine with forward pedaling but I don't have tunnel vision so I'm considering all the possibilties

[Zachstralkita]

You're going to have to give more more than "That is a bad vote."
When I directly interact with a player and all they can offer is posturing, garbage, and no concrete rationale for their speculation, I get wary. When confronted with this reality, Dunnscum decided to assault me rather than support their cases.

Sorry not sorry. My vote stays. You rubes probably won't vote there because you're too weak.

Yeah that's why I didn't pressure it further, but I have experience with Dunnstral and that's why I won't be voting there.

you just didn't factor in the possibility of a sleek rogue variable like me.

more and more so it feels like 'useless junk variable' tbh

go ahead try me

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach: If you let players hide behind a veneer of trash anti-town play, they'll do it as scum as much as they do it as town--if not moreso.

His trash-anti town behavior was not what made me make my decision on his alignment, but I'm sure you'll find plenty of willing Dunnstral lynch candidates amongst us. If I'm not mistaken there were a few votes on him at gamestart.

the uh, lemme campaign for zach's death?

I'm still fine with forward pedaling but I don't have tunnel vision so I'm considering all the possibilties

or just fence-sitting to see if wagon's gonna roll

Titus is a known strong player - wouldn't surprise me if scum were to target her ASAP

either way - get off my lawn or prove you have what it takes to be there

i dislike your recent posts, zach

I will make 86 fucking Animal Crossing holes in your lawn and not cover any of them back up.

If Titus wants to be seen as town, her scumhunting game should not soley consist of me.

Something we actually agree on Zach. Dunn can drive me up the wall at points. He acknowledged this and reached out to me early on.

And yes, but I don't consider that bad. I do what needs to be done for who I perceive to be on my side, in life and mafia.

STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER

Lol those numbers are very crucial. Very crucial

What do they mean though.

I think you threw them on there to make it look like you have some other reason for your reads. Unless you explain it I'm going to assume it bullshittery.

Hey they were according to MY SCALE the +s are the points TOWARD them being whatever color coded alignment just cause Dunnstral whipped up a nice little graph to fucking trump me like he always does in life doesn't make his methods any less questionable than mine

go ahead try me

try what? delivering you to scrap-heap?

your DOG is a street soldier so DODGE from these heat blowers, REVOLVERS with speed loaders LODGED into eacH SHOULDER THAT K SO BIG I GOTTA HIDE IT IN THE GARAGE AND THEY CREEP OVER

[Zachstralkita]

I will make 86 fucking Animal Crossing holes in your lawn and not cover any of them back up.

If Titus wants to be seen as town, her scumhunting game should not soley consist of me.

is that's why i should be voting Titus?

fucking donkeytown, make some sense already

And the fact that a lot of her posts suck? Yes I know that's coming from ME.

[Zachstralkita]

Why don't you question Mirhawk on some stuff?

[Zachstralkita]

And the fact that a lot of her posts suck? Yes I know that's coming from ME.

oh... i finally get it!

VOTE: Titus

Why don't you question Mirhawk on some stuff?

and you?

And question me or me question Mirhawk? If I had a desire to do that at the current moment I would be doing it and not telling you to.

His alive presence is interfering greatly with my scumhunting activities, not to mention he contributes worthless reads to boot

and no fake dayvigs either dont tease me. if you're in this setup then i greatly implore you to use your ability for the greater good

It would help if you avoided rank hypocrisy Zach. You want me to unvote you because it won't go anywhere but Lapsa unvoted me for the same reason, you object.

The difference is:

1) I'm town

2) You're scum

You like that one? Dunnstral taught me.

Am I to read this as your reads suck because of him? Because that's what I'm getting from it.

Also calling for dayvigs on people who you don't think are scum is terrible fucking play.

Okay captain lieutenant commander, be real. It wasn't going to happen even if there was a fucking dayvig.

[Zachstralkita]

Hey Laspa, can you do a reads list?

Zachstralkita

(reverse incoming so it seems)

You DID say it was prone to errors.

[Zachstralkita]

Hey Laspa, can you do a reads list?

Zachstralkita

(reverse incoming so it seems)

You DID say it was prone to errors.

get lost, you fat juggalo

I'm quite skinny and not a juggalo.

[Zachstralkita]

Hey they were according to MY SCALE the +s are the points TOWARD them being whatever color coded alignment just cause Dunnstral whipped up a nice little graph to fucking trump me like he always does in life doesn't make his methods any less questionable than mine

That is incredibly counter-intuitive. Also, what do the null players on that list have, null points?

Signifies how strong said feelings are.

[Zachstralkita]

Town:Dunn
Boem
Mirhawk

Weak lean town
Lapsa (the anger is uncharacteristic of him)
Varsoon
Implosion

Weak scum
Wake
Transcend
Shannon

Scum
Sick
Zach
Agar

So according to Titus' read list, 2 definite scum and 2 highly possible scum are on her wagon. LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Remember how Dwlee got did in Borderlands Mafia? That's what you're doing to me right now.

Who are you an alt of? Cuz I don't recall you being in Borderlands at all!

This gets explained further down the page.

[Zachstralkita]

Uh no, Mirhawk is overanalyzing the graph and replying to other posts that don't matter

Also I think I'll say Varsoon is mafia rather than insult his play

This is why you're awful, by the way. Comfortable with swapping my vote

[Zachstralkita]

Who are u ordering around?? LMFaO

Varsoon town btw

[Zachstralkita]

He's an RC alt

Not a chance. RC frankly would never be as dumb as Zach is this game, regardless of his alignment. Plus RC would never lamist.

Remember those joke things we were talking about?

[Zachstralkita]

He's an RC alt

Not a chance. RC frankly would never be as dumb as Zach is this game, regardless of his alignment. Plus RC would never lamist.

Remember those joke things we were talking about?

?

Jokes, it turns out they happen quite frequently in the human world.

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral fix up your form otherwise I will acquiesce to a policy lynch on you

[Zachstralkita]

but double your sheer analysys

And my reads are all good

That's two false statements in two posts. I'll add 'em to the list.

I have half your posts but double your sheer analysys

analysys

someones catching a moderate buzz for their birthday

wait til his words start scrambling

[Zachstralkita]

I'm completely sober, unlike your posse and their reads

That makes it worse because now you have no excuse for the sheer amount of YRWHYFDPG that you're producing.

Varsoon is a werewolf

There is absolutely no reason to assume this.

Mirhawk is a werewolf too

Unless there's good reason to assume Werewolfs are in this game, please cease.

They're scum-aligned

Varsoon is a werewolf

There is absolutely no reason to assume this.

Mirhawk is a werewolf too

Unless there's good reason to assume Werewolfs are in this game, please cease.

They're scum-aligned

stop stealing ira's steez

[Zachstralkita]

Was that a serious mason claim...

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone have meta on Titus doing Mason gambits?

No but I'd put my level of trust in that being a legit claim somewhere around fifteen percent.

Was that a serious mason claim...

Unfortunately. I obviously wasn't going to let her get lynched but whatever now

Sorry I'm more inclined to believe it's a level 92 scum gambit

[Zachstralkita]

What's your current take on Zach? He posts frequently.

My general impression is that I find his demeanor antitown. He also says a lot of things that I just don't see town saying.

I don't like his reads much (though my own opinion of Dunn has gotten much worse over the last few pages), and he flails at everyone who attacks him.

You're attacking me, I'm not exactly flailing at you.

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone have meta on Titus doing Mason gambits?

No but I'd put my level of trust in that being a legit claim somewhere around fifteen percent.

Was that a serious mason claim...

Unfortunately. I obviously wasn't going to let her get lynched but whatever now

Sorry I'm more inclined to believe it's a level 92 scum gambit

They do. In suits and false pretenses.

You'd be more inclined to believe that lizards run the the government.

[Zachstralkita]

I butchered that fucking quote gonma go backflip off a cliff now fuck you phone

[Zachstralkita]

Titus, by your rationale would the rest of the thread scumreading me make it more intelligent?

[Zachstralkita]

Does no one else find odd that 4 of Titus' scumreads are on her wagon? Like really? We're going out of our way just for little old you? I assume scum would NK rather than making a really loud fucking wagon on you.

[Zachstralkita]

I want Wake to post more, PeregrineV was supposed to post more, I don't want to vote Mirhawk or Varsoon

Dunn if you had used your words, words aside from " Because I said so " your partner may not have claimed - if the claim is legit.

Titus, what say you diffuse your vote on me and I'll magically diffuse your wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

OK explain to me how Mirhawk and varsoon are BOTH town when I think they're both scum

I didn't say they were both Town, Detective, but I like Varsoon's posts ( he has a good point on you)

Mirhawk's play does not warrant my vote atm.

By the way, was Titus L-3 or L-4 something when the mason claim happened?

I want Wake to post more, PeregrineV was supposed to post more, I don't want to vote Mirhawk or Varsoon

Dunn if you had used your words, words aside from " Because I said so " your partner may not have claimed - if the claim is legit.

Titus, what say you diffuse your vote on me and I'll magically diffuse your wagon.

I'm a mason, you should be diffusing my wagon anyway, but I'll humor this if it gets me a bus.

Which of our mutual scumreads do you want to lynch?

Um do you scumread shannon?



Ayy looks like I spread the quote curse ^^

[Zachstralkita]

By the way, do mason partners die if the other is killed, or is that just lovers?


Nice of Nosferatu to pop in. I'm kinda comfy with voting that slot.

@Dunn, Mirhawk's town because he sees the lamist play. Varsoon gets a pass on slower entry because he's been busy and anyone who has played with scum me HATES naked townreads on Titus by principle.

@Zach, I could do Shannon.

Ok VOTE: shannon

[Zachstralkita]

I want Wake to post more, PeregrineV was supposed to post more, I don't want to vote Mirhawk or Varsoon

Dunn if you had used your words, words aside from " Because I said so " your partner may not have claimed - if the claim is legit.

Titus, what say you diffuse your vote on me and I'll magically diffuse your wagon.

I'm a mason, you should be diffusing my wagon anyway, but I'll humor this if it gets me a bus.

Which of our mutual scumreads do you want to lynch?

Wait a minute... " if it gets me a bus"

YoU sTILL THINK I'M sCuM!

[Zachstralkita]

I'm saying I would know if Titus was faking or buddying up to me, or at least wouldn't townread her right away but it's whatever

Why are you saying this as if it's a concern or ever was if Titus is your mason partner?

[Zachstralkita]

Zach can you case on Shannon, really need you to be explaining your actions instead of blanket "x is town/mafia" statements

Another joke. Haha. I got it.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm saying I would know if Titus was faking or buddying up to me, or at least wouldn't townread her right away but it's whatever

Why are you saying this as if it's a concern or ever was if Titus is your mason partner?

Because I'm explaining my meaning to Wake? What are your thoughts on Wake's recent actions

He's trying to find shit out. I kinda like it.

[Zachstralkita]

I'd rather do that than have him caught up in scumreading town

I'm saying I would know if Titus was faking or buddying up to me, or at least wouldn't townread her right away but it's whatever

Why are you saying this as if it's a concern or ever was if Titus is your mason partner?

Oh let's claim Masons in post 1. That's an intelligent idea. In this setup, he

would

know if I was scum buddying him, because he already knows I'm not.

That's not what I said or attempted to suggest, if he wants to act like the fucking Dog Whisperer he can.

Hey, where's that unvote?

[Zachstralkita]

Zach where's my Shannon case? I'm still voting V-boy over here

Where's my Varsoon case?

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach, Where's the vote on Shannon?

I cast it. Like last page

[Zachstralkita]

While your hurtful statements crack my stony exterior and pierce straight into my sprinkle-coated heart, I am not fazed because they are obviously false.

Ok Town Squadron dissassemble Titus wagon designate 0114-165 or don't if you feel it's the best scum gambit of 2016.


What's actually stopping one of you getting NK'd tonight, making the claim kinda pointless?

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think the doc is gonna waste his power like that, hate to burst your bubble

And it looks very bad if neither of you turn up dead, but THEY know that but now I know that they know that so I'll factor it in...

Looking back I'm really not a fan of AGar's content post. He attacks Titus largely for pushing with empty reasoning, when he himself in his post gives very little reasoning for much of what he says (he cites posts 89, 367-368, 370-376, 387 and possibly more as bad or terrible or etc but gives no justification, as though those 10+ posts are self-evidently scummy [which they aren't]). In assessing Titus's 447, he immediately jumps to the worst possible interpretation:

Are you really saying because you did something one time in a game when you were scum, that this means he's scum?

when it's fairly evident, I think, that Titus is simply saying that it

can

be scum and attacking it for reasons other than her having done it as scum once (calling it LAMIST) together with the fact that

Titus had already been pushing Zach

which pretty clearly indicates that Titus wasn't pushing Zach with the logic of "I did this once as scum therefore you're doing it as scum." This jumping to the worst possible interpretation of things, IMO, indicates a lack of intellectual honesty in evaluating information, which in turn indicates scum.

We're taking a break from your regularly scheduled shannon vote for a quick second

^ THAT was a scumpost.

VOTE: implosion

[Zachstralkita]

Holy shit ding ding ding lynch that RIGHT now.

[Zachstralkita]

That was a town post from implosion.

Another example of why your reads are fucking garbage. Implosion read too much into that statement, saw what he wanted to see, called him scum, and did NOT accompany it with a vote. That's faux town at it's finest.

[Zachstralkita]

Sheep your mason partner please, your vote is on VARSOON.

Implosion read too much into that statement

I analyzed a number of things in that post.

did NOT accompany it with a vote.

What exactly do you think an AGar vote will accomplish right now?
There's no wagon on him and he's V/LA.

this is not a valid defense

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral is a dude btw, he does act pretty tsundere though

[Zachstralkita]

What point does it serve AGar to " forget" about Titus' scumgame? Sounds like bullshit.

Actually legit I am maybe a little worried about AGar.

I played with him before, but it was a long time ago and I can't remember if he felt this disconnected before.

I'm on my phone but let me reiterate

I MOVED FROM NORTH CAROLINA TO FUCKING FLORIDA.

Ayy.. It fucking sucks here I'm sorry

Third, no one is confirmed unless by the game moderator.

The fact that they are not

technically

moderator-confirmed or that it is technically possible that they are gambiting is, in fact, not a reason to have either of them in the lynch pool today at all.

You, my friend however have just got yourself a rubber ducky and swimming trunks.

[Zachstralkita]

Like, I'm willing to believe that you read that post and interpreted it that way, but when you saw that a claimed mason was claiming not to care if their partner was lynched, was your first instinct really "this confirms that they're not really masons" rather than "hm, I bet I misread that"?

It was clearly a mistake in reading as he has (apparently) done before, you don't have to draw more attention to yourself.

[Zachstralkita]

I have other thoughts, that require Internet and my laptop, not my phone and also sobriety. But! The one scum game I have with Titus (that I haven't "conveniently" forgotten, contrary to how she'd like you to see it), she claimed a fucking ridiculously modified vig role to save solely herself, at the expense of handing over control of our scumkill to the fucking TOWN some nights, even though it could have literally confirmed two mafia at any given point. Lynch the "mason". More tomorrow after Bright House hooks up my shit.

I would vote Titus off the strength of this, but that would require Dunn to be scum as well and I don't really see Dunn hard defending a scumbuddy like that.

[Zachstralkita]

He's an RC alt

WHAT THE ... *Slaps forehead*

Negative sir this is a false statement

[Zachstralkita]

I have other thoughts, that require Internet and my laptop, not my phone and also sobriety. But! The one scum game I have with Titus (that I haven't "conveniently" forgotten, contrary to how she'd like you to see it), she claimed a fucking ridiculously modified vig role to save solely herself, at the expense of handing over control of our scumkill to the fucking TOWN some nights, even though it could have literally confirmed two mafia at any given point. Lynch the "mason". More tomorrow after Bright House hooks up my shit.

I would vote Titus off the strength of this, but that would require Dunn to be scum as well and I don't really see Dunn hard defending a scumbuddy like that.

One or both of them could be non-Mason Town.

Town has been known to fake-claim Mason status.

If they're Town but not Mason they're both still lying to us.

ok well them fakeclaiming is bad in this position (see my sig image)

[Zachstralkita]

I wouldn't fake claim, no worries






Zach don't respond to this

Mandatory.

[Zachstralkita]

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I have other thoughts, that require Internet and my laptop, not my phone and also sobriety. But! The one scum game I have with Titus (that I haven't "conveniently" forgotten, contrary to how she'd like you to see it), she claimed a fucking ridiculously modified vig role to save solely herself, at the expense of handing over control of our scumkill to the fucking TOWN some nights, even though it could have literally confirmed two mafia at any given point. Lynch the "mason". More tomorrow after Bright House hooks up my shit.

Meanwhile: Vote on me for something that doesn't make sense
I would vote Titus off the strength of this, but that would require Dunn to be scum as well and I don't really see Dunn hard defending a scumbuddy like that.

One or both of them could be non-Mason Town.

Town has been known to fake-claim Mason status.

If they're Town but not Mason they're both still lying to us.

How much have you had to drink at this point

[Zachstralkita]

Nope, Waketown

[Zachstralkita]

Wake, what's the ETA on that updated reads list?

[Zachstralkita]

If you consider dumb a personal attack, maybe you should stop being dumb.

Dumb also is not a personal attack. If someone is being dumb, should we have a special word so

you're

feelings don't get hurt when you are indeed being dumb?

I hope you're on your phone.

It's okay, I knew someone that always said wan't.

[Zachstralkita]

If you consider dumb a personal attack, maybe you should stop being dumb.

Dumb also is not a personal attack. If someone is being dumb, should we have a special word so you're feelings don't get hurt when you are indeed being dumb?

If this is Scum-Titus, it's very subtle Scum-Titus. Looking past the ironic illiteracy I see Scum-Titus very cautiously trying trying to get a dig in... in hopes of stirring division. Town-Titus I doubt would try to miscontrue 'dumb' as something other than a personal attack, while at the same time trying to play the 'feelings angle' to try and rile someone up. She did something similar in that Gundam game where she was Scum but played peace-maker yet tried to sow little seeds of discontent. At the moment I feel comfortable with this not for her words but for her subtle behavior.

VOTE: Titus

[Zachstralkita]

Wait a second










Implosian's avatar is a gif

UNVOTE: implosion

[Zachstralkita]

I'll sheep whatever Agar does actually

Transcend is fucking town.

[Zachstralkita]

I'll sheep whatever Agar does actually

Transcend is fucking town.

Gonna need an analysis on that, I'll case him when that computer works

I would like to case you inside of.. pine.. whatever coffins are made of


Also there's not much to say. Most of what comes out of AGar's mouth spews town to me for some reason.

[Zachstralkita]

I agree with your Nosferatu read, Wake.

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend is town and if Titus can think I'm heavy scum then that should show you the quality of her reads.

I've been saying Sickofit is a bad lynch for a while now, but I'd rather lynch Mirhawk/shannon than lynch Sickofit

Fuckin.. umm... not to mention the mason claim business

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend is town and if Titus can think I'm heavy scum then that should show you the quality of her reads.

I've been saying Sickofit is a bad lynch for a while now, but I'd rather lynch Mirhawk/shannon than lynch Sickofit

Fuckin.. umm... not to mention the mason claim business

When you admit that paint business was meant to make you look town, I will think you're town. It's your stubborn denail of that that makes me doubt you.

That's not what it was meant to do, I'm not " denailing " anything.

[Zachstralkita]

Typo whatever.

Sorry. Then you're absolutely in denial about yourself (which means your reads are useless to me) or you're scum. Either way, I am not caring much.

You assume to know the motivations behind MY actions that went through MY head, I DID and then expect me to give 1/8th of a flying 747 fuck when you attempt to tell me what's what.

I do not. Have a nice day, though.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Titus

More pressure please.

I think all the pressure's been pressurized to be honest, if we're doing that then it has to be a lynch

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Titus

More pressure please.

I think all the pressure's been pressurized to be honest, if we're doing that then it has to be a lynch

?????????

Pressuring Titus rn is a waste of time IMO because of the.... current climate

If Wake wants that vote we have to go for the KILL

[Zachstralkita]

Typo whatever.

Sorry. Then you're absolutely in denial about yourself (which means your reads are useless to me) or you're scum. Either way, I am not caring much.

You assume to know the motivations behind MY actions that went through MY head, I DID and then expect me to give 1/8th of a flying 747 fuck when you attempt to tell me what's what.

I do not. Have a nice day, though.

Of course not. That's the ONLY plausible scenario. I have scratched my brain looking for one given your recent play looks town.

Yet, I simply cannot find one. So yeah, I asked you to admit you lamisted as town and you cannot do that. So either you are so terrible at explaining your alternate reality, which gives me no hope we'll see eye to eye on anything, you're in denial about your own behavior, or you're scum.

So I am all ears whenever you want to try again to explain whypaint over typing. But I don't think you care to do that.

I told you " I felt like it " before, and you responded like I was drawing out 22 divided by 7 on a fucking blackboard. It's not impossible.

[Zachstralkita]

Me being " in denial " is just you not believing what I'm saying, there is no communication error here. And that's fine.

Yes, then ZOMG maybe you felt like lamisting because there was a wagon on you. Did you consider that? No.

I have no cause for LAMISTING. you weren't gonna pull that lynch off. I put passion in my MS paint art, Titus.

[Zachstralkita]

ok I didn't draw shit there but you know what i meant

[Zachstralkita]

I'll sheep whatever Agar does actually

Transcend is fucking town.

How come?

What most of you view as apathy and " not compelling " is simply a lack of effort on his part, in my opinion. Lack of effort is not to say he's half-assing it, but I don't believe it's scummy or warrants votes and you may think otherwise, I'm just telling you I'm quite sure he's town but if my reads don't amount to much to you then whatever.

[Zachstralkita]

So who's mafia, Zach?

I'm down with nosferatu, implosion and maybe PeregrineV and shannon lynches. implosion explained the Titus stuff pretty well but I still don't like his AGar scumread post at all and that's enough for me.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach you remind me of Dr. Phil, as you have this...likability of getting inside our heads and understanding what we think before we even say it. Transcend is wearing a mask , and I 'm not trusting that.

Why are you down with Pere?? And I don't mean this sexually.
:

Oh fuck I'm gonna shoot myself if I in any way resemble that scumbag.


Well Peregrine's supposed to be posting more but he's not and I figure if you guys can lynch Sickofit for... IDK some weird Doodlebob logic shit then we can kill Peregrine.

Although I'm not familiar with Peregrine's play so he may not be the type to lurk as scum, so I'm more comfortable with killing Nos. Killing him dead.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't like podo's " too scummy to be scum " theory on AGar, it basically states AGar's town and I believe that, that post is just off to me a little for some reason.

Blah, never mind - Air posted twice and has been forgettable to me. His 50 was a big assumption, as he said " That being said, I do read that Performer is willing and ready to vote for someone. Just not now." This is a mighty assumption. What if I decide to actually no lynch?
VOTE: No Lynch

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn: " They're both town "