chilledtea's Mini Normal Review

[Cephrir]

Oh hi I forgot to bookmark this

[Cephrir]

"During night phase, you can track a person to see whom they targeted (if any). You are limited to using it on only 2 night phases in the game."

This is pretty weird wording and not consistent with other PMs. It seems to remove the possibility of a Roleblocker being in the game with its weirdness.

[Cephrir]

While it's true that setup speculation is more likely with PR's, I also believe that it is more successful in town's hands if there are less PR's.

Am I wrong in thinking that way? I feel that scum have more of a chance of hiding amongst PR's if there are more PR's and as a result town will have to do actual scumhunting and town hunting to find scum/town instead of relying on claims.

Well, PRs can potentially clear their owners, and it makes them harder to lynch especially if they still have shots

[Cephrir]

"If successful, you get killed instead of your target." -> "If your target would be killed, you are killed in their stead." If someone didn't already know what a bodyguard was they might not know what "successful" means.

[Cephrir]

What if I remove the 1-shot cop and turn him into a vanilla?

ascetic, 2-shot tracker, 2-shot gunsmith, 2-shot vigilante, bodyguard, 5 vanillas - Town

Doctor, goon, vanilla cop - Mafia

How would this be?

It's probably okay. Town will most likely benefit from all the 2-shot claims seeming to back each other up as setup elements, and in practice ascetics will claim day 1 and be treated as mostly clear. I think I would still bet on town.

[Cephrir]

It certainly made me feel like I should think twice.

I think Gunsmiths are probably stronger than Trackers

[Cephrir]

i'd be in favor of one of the investigative roles just being full

[Cephrir]

Well, I guess I kind of think in a mini game the difference between a 3-shot tracker and a tracker is pretty much nothing. but i'm okay with this either way.

[Cephrir]

I believe the investigative results should be "XXX doesn't have a gun"/etc. but you probably were just implying that.

What about results for everyone else?

[Cephrir]

Approved

[Cephrir]

personally I think I'm a bit biased by how lately 13p games have skewed in scum's favor. Or in better wording, scum have won a lot of recent games despite notions of what we've thought was balanced, and in general for any 2-scum-PR setup I'd want to give town more PR agency of its own.

This is where I'm coming from. I had a strong reaction to a recent MD thread and definitely feel the expected mini setup of late is a scumsided baseline. I'd like to fix that.

[Cephrir]

im good w that

[Cephrir]

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