Newbie 1730 - To The North (Game Over)

[Enefpe no Time]

Wjy on earth would the mod not send out a pm that the game started

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First page in joushi and innocent are scumreads

Joushi heavy

[Enefpe no Time]

chill it with the walls please

a wall every once in a while is fine, but walling in every single post is going to make some players (me) not want to read you.

try condensing your posts

I like this guy

[Enefpe no Time]

Skold is pretty town.

Throwing down on the ic. Claims to be "aggressive" at the start of the game; lots of talking not a whole lot of words; oddly even-keeled; will probaby make a rebuttal to this post with a wall and ask me if im a newb (i may even be accused of being antitown for going after the ic). He just smells funny. I dont like the cut of his jib. Lots of his posts smell like they have been crafted.

vote: innocentvillager

[Enefpe no Time]

Innocent's reaction to me scumreading him is to weirdly focus on the fact that i townread skold. Evasive, tactical behavior. This dude is scum.

Skold is very non constructive in his tone, seems genuineish, hence town.

Joushi and innocent seem to be having weird interactions also

[Enefpe no Time]

You seem to be under the delusion that i am the type of player who makes walls or inclined to address every little non issue that arises. I actuall have given quite a bit of information about my stances, my playstyle, and why i think the way you do. I dont think any "accusations" were made perse, just some pretty on point observations. If you look at your interactions with innocent, they do feel weird. This is my opinion. Im sorry that this flusters you? Its actually quite scummy to insinuate that i have given "no" reasoning.

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The way i do* above post was directed at joushi, last sentence @ soula

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Liking this infighting, beginning to understand who is town more. I still dont like joushi. Lots of weird energies in this game. At a glance i am dubious of soula for saying i have been "floundering" but this response is ego based. Goin to be camping the next few days.

Innocentvillager is a strong lynch, still. Read his posts. They have a very fakey tone.

[Enefpe no Time]

lynch this

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Getting my scumreads lynched; a truly terrible strategem. Im afraid you have me in checkmate, sir.

[Enefpe no Time]

It should be moderately obvious that stove-kun is town. Righteous energy, lots of it. I dont see what you see in soula.

Transcend have you played em your name sounds familiar?

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So who is scum iv

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I iso'd Soula and I think he's maf. I was wrong in town reading him.

Agreed.

Dearest IV,

young man

, I am releasing my bony fingers your neck. You have flopped around enough to prove you have a moderate amount of righteousness. You are free, for now.

His reaction to the wagon was a bit flaily but I think its a combination of being brainwashed by em theory and playing a newbie game with people who arent necessarily newbies.

vote: soula

IV should be watched

[Enefpe no Time]

ms theory*

Tfw no coffee

[Enefpe no Time]

Everything in the last few pages is dumb and probably ought to be ignored. This is what happens when I don't bring sense to this nonsense. Nobody has anything in terms of evidence. Nobody is at all guaranteed to be any alignment except yourself. Stop spreading bad theory plz.

The notion of rationality and evidence from ms players always amused me. Perception will always be a shifting variable. Nobody is outright scumclaiming. Scumslips are rare. As long as people play to their win condition, any "evidence" someone offers is just going to be their own perspective. What matters is making people agree and see your perspective, your content doesnt matter so much (unfortunately this is just a facet of human nature!). Wall to wall interactions are especially low brow as far as the art of this game goes. If you are tunneling someone, you have nothing too gain by removing yourself from a position of superiority and bringing yourself down to the level of a pedant.

I personally believe intuition is nearly everything in this game! Intuition is just a deeper form of logic you cant really cognate consciously. Well, a few can. Some of the best players on MS are right-brained powehouses (say...faraday, fate), and know how the game works on a social level in a way that the left-brained players here (the majority imo) have a hard time conceiving. In many cases, there are much more subtle things going on than these players can imagine.

dat tangent

[Enefpe no Time]

no.

[Enefpe no Time]

Alright genius. So IV, who has been pretty much absent and only made some meta-posts about the game, you read as hard scum? OH REALLY. Fine, I'll play your game. But if he flips green, you got some explaining to do.

Here is a read for you. The above is a huge scum flag, setup so you can miss lynch IV without being blamed for the lynch and turn it into a miss lynch on Transcend the following day.

How is it a scum flag if I believe Transcend is scum? I mean he's targeting IV as HIGH SCUM when I barely get anything negative from IV, except that IV is trying to be a helpful town. I mean, jeez. I'd like to nail Transcend as mafia in round 2 and honestly it doesn't do me any good to do this as mafia anyway. I'll just guarantee that I get killed if Transcend flips green.

You think Transcend is scum, so you decide to vote with him? WTF kind of logic is that? Why are you helping scum lynch someone?

If you want to see it that way, fine. It looks bad. But if it gets a mafia in round 2, it helps Town's chances overall. Plus, I could be wrong about IV. If IV is mafia we get mafia round 1, if not, I can slam Transcend round 2 and get him. And I get that someone flipping Town doesn't mean all that much in itself, but he's so scummy at this point, I just can't ignore it.

I'm getting scummy vibes from enefpe, you, and Transcend, but one of you can't be mafia. Enefpe and Transcend both want IV's blood, so even though this looks scummy, I'm unvoting for now.
UNVOTE: Karnos

Everything in the last few pages is dumb and probably ought to be ignored. This is what happens when I don't bring sense to this nonsense. Nobody has anything in terms of evidence. Nobody is at all guaranteed to be any alignment except yourself. Stop spreading bad theory plz.

The notion of rationality and evidence from ms players always amused me. Perception will always be a shifting variable. Nobody is outright scumclaiming. Scumslips are rare. As long as people play to their win condition, any "evidence" someone offers is just going to be their own perspective. What matters is making people agree and see your perspective, your content doesnt matter so much (unfortunately this is just a facet of human nature!). Wall to wall interactions are especially low brow as far as the art of this game goes. If you are tunneling someone, you have nothing too gain by removing yourself from a position of superiority and bringing yourself down to the level of a pedant.

I personally believe intuition is nearly everything in this game! Intuition is just a deeper form of logic you cant really cognate consciously. Well, a few can. Some of the best players on MS are right-brained powehouses (say...faraday, fate), and know how the game works on a social level in a way that the left-brained players here (the majority imo) have a hard time conceiving. In many cases, there are much more subtle things going on than these players can imagine.

dat tangent

LOL. So basically you don't think you have to justify yourself and can fall back on claiming intuition as long as you can get people to agree with your perceptions.

WOW

JUST WOW. I should have trusted my read on you from the beginning, instead of thinking I could be smart about this.

Can we just lynch this obvious mafia now please?

VOTE: Enefpe

Um lol? My position is a bit more nuanced than that but okay? Also wasnt it a bit obvious that i was just discussing theory rather than coming at it from any angle of justification? This is a very weird omgus, my vote feels right.

[Enefpe no Time]

His reaction to the wagon was a bit flaily but I think its a combination of being brainwashed by em theory and playing a newbie game with people who arent necessarily newbies.

You agree but then justify it? I don't mind my vote hanging about here.

You dont think town flail as well? Its hardly an alignment tell. Not sure where you are coming from

[Enefpe no Time]

Why is soula treating me like i abused him in a past life its weird af. I dont even want to address such an aggressive tonality. To say i havent been doing townie things and am some evil scum mastermind / evil evil man who believes in the power of intuition (apparently i cant be reasoned with, either) ergo im bad at mafia as well. So im scum and a terrible person, apparently.

my dudes i meditate my heart chakra is taking a beating here

[Enefpe no Time]

I need to meditate ;(

[Enefpe no Time]

You dont think town flail as well? Its hardly an alignment tell. Not sure where you are coming from

I don't see why you would mention it, knowing that it's not a tell.

Why do you act like you know me?

[Enefpe no Time]

lmao

[Enefpe no Time]

Youre like 15 pipe down. So is soula genuinely replacing out because i read that as a little town. Watching her lose her spaghetti was moderately townish.

unvote

Stove-senpai -town
Karnage - minimalist town
So u lala - probably town for reasons stated above
Tran 'has never won a gold' scend - town
Fiddler - liking this dude, well reasoned. I bet he's a libra. - town

Leaves me with skold, my read has changed on him, i see him running a lot of interference and being genuinely subversive.

Joushi is growing on me like that younger awkward nephew you have who is a shut-in and plays nothing but 2d anime romance text games. Awkward but lovable. Im seeing him as less scummy and more just left brained with an inclination towards speficities.

I have been less than impressed with IV since his grilling and he seems to have dropped off the map a little bit since some of the pressure on him died down. His response to transcend is very much coming from the mentality of feigned anger and like trying to point a finger at transcend's play. Also that condescending overtone is used by scum alot "ohhhh nice case bub, you finally did SOMETHING right" lots of tonal shifts from iv this game. Im fairly confident in my reads atm.

vote: innocentvillager

[Enefpe no Time]

demands will get you nowhere...sweet kisses on the other hand...

can you like get this iv lynch happening already (transcend and i are cheating em scumbuddies fyi, hence the buddying)

I aint got the energy for it

[Enefpe no Time]

Dearest oni-stove-chan,

Didnt i literally just post my reads

I dont see how you could see anyone as null at this stage. Unrelated, why do you see me as scummy? Aside from say, bein a weirdo

[Enefpe no Time]

Can you guys just trust me on this iv lynch. Please pretty please. Maybe if i say please enough someone might change their mind. Also holy shit wifom alert but if he is scum im practically confirmed town. Actually, following my lynches is probably a good idea because im a decisive character (plus my reads are pretty on point huehue)

umm if i ever alluded to you being scum im really sorry so so sorry uhh yea lets just get this nasty evil iv lynched so that we may become one together

[Enefpe no Time]

Im a pr fuck off

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Unvote now

[Enefpe no Time]

Joushi its like you dont understand subtlety or what it means to be tongue and cheek, youre so bizarre are all ms players this weird. You literally need me to explain a very obvious joke...its like lol??

[Enefpe no Time]

If you think mafia is about debating you are truly clueless

[Enefpe no Time]

And i was at l1

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Still am

[Enefpe no Time]

Read #308 and #315

Im having a hard time believing joushi is that stupid unless he is rain man. Is it just me here. People keep townreading him "because he sounds like a polite noob", but does he? Does he really? He seems fairly confident in being quite aggressive when he wants to be.

Iv lynch isnt happening rn i guess. Its weird that soulas replacement hasnt commented on the fact that i made her rq. Maybe that slot is scum.

Also iv is lying, there can only be one pranay, and it is i

The above post is also terrible. Why would you vote for transcend over iv. They cant be buddies. If they are, clap clap, amazing play i deserve to lose

[Enefpe no Time]

Can you point out where you think transcend has been slimy or forced?

I wasnt even that rude come on. I guess the way she was acting was more indicative of gender than alignment.

vote: karnos

Bargain priced lynch right here

[Enefpe no Time]

Also iv is lying, there can only be one pranay, and it is i

What?

You know what, since most people on ms seem to be on the spectrum, im going to refrain from making jokes. Especially em related ones

[Enefpe no Time]

I dont generally read walls and the examples you listed towards transcend were pretty weak. I generally disagree there

Also i have to deal with the spergelord mod telling me not to make sexist jokes(as if suddenly ive crossed the line)i mean talk about the internet thought police im guessing he is with her

[Enefpe no Time]

You know, I wouldn't even be sad if Enefpe was quick hammered. Refusing to get an avatar and just general douchebag posting style is almost deserving of a policy lynch. Almost.

But he might just be scum, so it's not a policy lynch.

My avatar is my v/la symbol

[Enefpe no Time]

You know, I wouldn't even be sad if Enefpe was quick hammered. Refusing to get an avatar and just general douchebag posting style is almost deserving of a policy lynch. Almost.

But he might just be scum, so it's not a policy lynch.

REEEEEEEEEE HE HAS NO AVATAR

[Enefpe no Time]

I could vote for soula. It does seem like a good lynch.

A lot of the time i get bogged down by reading into subtleties too much. Its good with em because you have less data so yoi need to abstract as much as possible in a small time frame, but with ms its more simple, you have to keep reminding yourself "the majority of people are town" the subtle plays less of a role. Just vote for what is outright scummy. Idk who to vote honestly. Karnos just seems easy.

[Enefpe no Time]

Le contradiction of le hark

VOTE: Enefpe no Time

I like this lynch more now especially with innocentvillager resisting it.

L-1 btw.

This is a good zinger. Your response?

It's a tasty little piece of cheese. Any scum want to hammer and collect it?

I'll trade town!Enefpe for a scum. It's a perfectly fair deal.

This looks forced. You are attempting to bait scum into hammering. But do you really think that it will work then you outright prematurely state "HEY, THIS IS A TRAP"

Karnos - Definition of newbtown

Hard to quote on mobile but idc. I'm a determined man.

[Enefpe no Time]

Umm that came out wrong too. Posting on my pjone as well

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vote: harko

[Enefpe no Time]

If i recall isnt there a karnos on em who is just awful

[Enefpe no Time]

Oy vey

[Enefpe no Time]

Look at trans pulling back and catching himself

Dat higher level of awareness

vote: karnos

Im sick and tired of you noobs regurgitating the meme that im acting scummy. im really not and never have. alot of what you think is scummy is not; youre like a group of paleolithic primates who come across an outsider primate and start throwing rocks at him because he is not apart of the group. QUIT BULLYING ME REEEE

[Enefpe no Time]

wait no

vote:joushi

"EXPLAIN WHY YOU MAKE JOKES. EXPLAIN THIS"

[Enefpe no Time]

Compare joushis tone from when started the game to what it is now. Starting out it was like "gee wiz im just a silly newb xd wooooeos rainbows" now its like hes a jaded private eye with an alcohol addiction who beats his wife

[Enefpe no Time]

Id lynch skold too

[Enefpe no Time]

Joushi is just an autist that keeps hate re-voting me

[Enefpe no Time]

We are in setup c. Watch them hammer me asap

[Enefpe no Time]

Welp