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VOTE: mimikyu

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Zyf do you have anything to do with zymf

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VOTE: gerry

This game annoys me already

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Zyf please stop posting so much

Think about my sanity

Please

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People we can lynch gerry

Let's just do it

Have seen the lol I'm scum are my partners bussing me shtick too often by scum

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Jesus fuck people post a lot

I think I have time for this game today

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At page 12 and this post by saru completely expresses my feelings:

I can't tell if Snake is noob town digging his own grave or just silly scum. Lots of votes on him in a short amount of time is a bit suspect.

It is easy to bash him for it which is exactly what mimi and transcend do so I fos them for that

And I also agree there is likely scum on the eagersnake wagon

Eagersnake did NOT contradict himself. There are a lot of people who feel there is something inbetween an RVS vote and a serious vote. I have attacked people for it before but it is NOT a solid scumtell.
I feel saru is town for expressing his doubts towards the wagon without actively trying to steer people away from voting by calling snake town. It is not WK if it's not actually a townread.

At page 19 rn:
Saru is still town for staying calm, explaining his views and not crumbling to all the votes.
The wagon goes without any resistance so it is going to be scum driven
There is so little resistance to the wagon I cannot believe that anyone actually thinks saru will flip scum there
quote="In post 407, xSoniaNevermindx"]Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now[/quote]

Not voting Saru today.

Sonia town

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

This post by zyf is shit and I am going to reread if he's actually a huge newb who believes everyone who opposes his wagon is scum or scum trying to powerlynch through the people opposing him

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oh hey reading this page there is a wagon on me apparently sonia scores town points again

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I now know Transcend is either A) Mafia with Zyr or B) Awful at reading this game and should never play again already stated why Zyr is scum XDDDD

Honestly, all 4 of us are probably town and making a bunch of noise, making it easy for scum to stay under the radar.

This pings, so I'm quoting it for later.

I agree I find it very unlikely that the whole saru wagon was town and this guy is just trying to form a townbloc out of it

VOTE: Xkfyu

whoa nelly those posts as of recently have been bad

good vote

Leaning transcend town aswell on the saru wagon

that leaves mimi zyf and xkyu I think

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So then can't I make the excuse that I made a bad play by defending Snake/Vedit cause I was confident in them being n00b town? Seriously, how many more excuses Zyf.

Your arguments on this page are really really bad. If you're town, then you should just stop talking because you're digger yourself further into the hole

Oh wait there is also this guy who just sits on the saru wagon and does nothing yeah this guy is scum I think

not obvious town, because he isn't obvtowning like zyf

Zyf is sooooo not obvtowning anything.

This post and a few others make me think xk is more likely town than scum

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BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

I wanted to see what he'd say and if any scum would see it as an opportunity to jump on the wagon.

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This is just a pretense of doing something while actually just tunnelling for a shit reason without any reads evolving

VOTE: Tiershift
for his 143 where he talked about his scum buddies bussing him.

No I talked about gerry who was saying his buddies were bussing him

Okay, so it was L2. Lets think about it for a second. What benefit does claiming VT while scum ever get you?
You have the same chance of getting lynched but you don't take any PR's down with you.

So, what else was on the case?
-Whiteknihting
-Mis use of words

And if Saru was scum with me, why am I not the one being lynched considering I made the lie (well my other body).
And if your reasoning is because Saru was whiteknighting, then I call the bullshit and say, before I commented, whiteknighting here was understood as calling town town for town cred. (This excludes Zyf who has actually said scum buddying, which is more of a realistic answer).

I feel okay in calling this town

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Interesting to see where this goes from here

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Just kidding there's probably a lurkscum somewhere within the pool of tex algebra tier leaning tex.

alright I'm done

Just kidding there's probably a lurkscum somewhere within the pool of tex algebra tier leaning tex.

Good post I'm also leaning tex for lurkscum

Blackstar hopped off his wagon because there is no support and continues doing literally fucking NOTHING

Lowell I like that catchup thing but I do not see xf as scum a lot
He dropped both town and scumtells and I feel his lack of direction is somewhat town

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Town:
sonia
mimi
transcend
saru

Scum:
Texcat- not talked about this much. Does not look like a really great lynch today but I would have expected scum to be all over this if it was town. That catchup and vote on me was horrible.
Blackstar-
HOW THE FUCK is no one talking about this scummy piece of shit
All he does is ride a wagon on someone who is town as fuck
He does NOTHING else
He unvotes when the wagon dies out
Then he just stops doing ANYTHING AT ALL
This is not town
Why is this flying under the radar
VOTE WITH ME!

VOTE: blackstar

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okay zyf I can see that now vote with me

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Just kidding there's probably a lurkscum somewhere within the pool of tex algebra tier leaning tex.

sonia please quote instances of blackstar scumhunting

And do it in a spoiler please

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He interacts with a few people, he tries to invalidate other people's arguments, but he does NOT look for scum himself. He didn't even find the slip you quoted, that was lowell. He just runs with it without giving an opinion on the matter. He says that it might be a slip, without even voting. He just fencesits on everything since the saru wagon died out.

The slip is shit and should not be looked into until we have actual wolves flip which is unlikely but possible I guess. Werewolves are normal right?

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Like 50% of what you quoted is jsut complaining about the gamestate or asking very basic questions

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lowell is town too btw

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today's lynch is xf or blackstar preferably the latter

NOT texcat

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That's how I scum hunt. I hate saying it, but I this is literally the best I can do. It's pretty weak that you want to lynch me for being bad at scum hunting. I've been trying my hardest to get scum lynched this whole time and trying to figure people out. What have you done tiershift? Lurk for days on end and then attempt to start a wagon for the flimsiest reason ever. I don't buy that you really believe I'm scum.

VOTE: tiershift

No blackstar, no. I'm not voting you for being bad at scumhunting. I'm voting you for NOT scumhunting.

You have not voted anyone since saru, true or not?
You have not been pushing your scumspects since, true or not?

Voting me for trying to build a new wagon after lurking is pathetic.

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mimi voting a lot is not a scumtell

Tell me what you think about blackstar

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Blackstar admit's he's bad at scumhunting so I think he's scared of wanting to scumhunt and get it wrong honestly still can't find that block button for zyf

please let blackstar talk for himself tyvm

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okay it has really been one day

But start doing stuff
VOTE: xf

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I would also be fine with a zyf PL

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its a joke blackstar

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mimi stop trying to talk sense into zyf it won't work

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great

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why town on xf blackstar

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Tier, what do you think about zyf?

Neutral

Now let's lynch xf

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I agree 100% with lowells scumreads

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mimkyu is a fine vote.

It is not.

Yeah, Mimikyu has been town as hell

I was previously town reading him as well, but I certainly wouldn't say that he's been "town as hell." What specifically makes you say that?

He's scum hunting, it doesn't feel like his posts have an ulterior motive and his reads match up with mine for the most part

okay blackstar may be town

Lowell
BlackStar
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Mimikyu
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VOTE: Blackstar

Does this mean that you are town reading Xkyfu, Sonia, and Vedith?

what is this texcat thing
it is so utterly useless

I want a flip on one of the more active posters, thinking xf/trans. Texcat can wait.

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I still think there has to be scum on the saru wagon let me check who was on it

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There are 300 posts inbetween VC 1.03 and 1.04 but I think I have got all the voters.

Votecount 1.04

Saru (5)

Mimikyu , Transcend , Xkfyu , Zyf , BlackStar ,

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Saru (5)

Transcend , Xkfyu , Zyf , BlackStar , xSoniaNevermindx ,

I don't want the dwlee lynch anytime soon

I'm positive there is at least one scum within transcend and xfkyu.

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It should be clear that I am townreading the other people on the wagon

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great dwlee

upon quick reread I think sonia has the best grip on this game of anyone here rn
trans is a scumfuck
xf more nullish

VOTE: trans

this is today's lynch

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dwlee let us converse

do you think saru is town?

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I'm already bored with my dwlee conversation

let's just lynch transcend today

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God please let this not be a deadline transcend lynch and just get this thing to L-1 asap

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I so want to lynch transcend now

That doctor claim which is super safe for scum coupled with the 'you guys did this horrible thing and you have screwed over the entire town!!' shtick

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where's the vote sonia

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Let me start of by saying that 1-shot BP and X-shot doc are both weak powerroles that could be in the setup together. There is no reason for them not to BUT both claims are really convenient.

It's hard/impossible to actually confirm the role plus the doc is too weak to be a prime NK target especially with the scumminess of the slot

Voting trans but then deciding to fence sit is great. Also great how you suddenly start scum reading me when I begin to case you. :3

You have not posted anything resembling a case, fuck off

Okay
VOTE: Texcat

Texcat, talk about Dwlee to me.
Why do you think he's lying along with Zyf?

Dwlee didn't have much choice. Claims that can't be proven are suspect in my book, particularly x-shot ones that explain why they aren't NK.d. Transcend's claim is suspect because I believe it was designed to expose our doc.

I agree with this fwiw

What exactly do you expect scum to claim?

THIS IS SCUM LYNCH HER

Go away it is a good question. You are not even reading texcat's posts.

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yeah that's not a case

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no my vote is fine where it is

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Oh yeah saru is town as fuck just stick that plan up your arse

Now everyone let's get back to lynching transcend

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VOTE: texcat

Let's just get a flip in.

L-1.

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VOTE: transcend

he has been counterclaimed and is now just walling the thread. Let's lynch this.

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algebra you are fucking garbage

i knew you were doctor and i was protecting you from getting lynched

there's my secret reason

i retract.

this is obviously bullshit. Trans got counterclaimed and is now pretending he somehow knew algebra was doctor, and that claiming doctor would somehow stop algebra from being NK'd, while algebra would be the last person scum would NK.

Transcend is such an amazing scum catch for day 1. wow.

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cute except there is no town motivation in softing that algebra is doctor especially after you supposedly would get NK'd as a VT

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also anyone who believes that transcend thought he was pulling a 'game winning move' (Trans, 1559) by claiming a PR as VT is a moron. Just lynch this, please.

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why is it that players with bird avatars piss me off to no end on this website

i'm talking to you aneninen (sp?)

because they get you lynched when you are scum?

something like that I presume

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He wasn't close to getting lynched. At all.

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vedith why are you not voting trans

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he got counterclaimed ffs

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The only thing that makes me believe this slgihtly is the fact it's so fucking stupid and was so rushed as scum.
Trans, you're a fucking moron.

You can talk shit to other players as you like but at the end of the day, you claimed a role that would most likely be CC.

Yeah he claimed a role which would most likely be CC'd which is what makes his scum not dumb town

Please

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He is walling just to annoy us it is so fucking clear just vote him ved

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Yeah he claimed a role which would most likely be CC'd which is what makes his scum not dumb town

Please

Look at when the claim happened. Xyk was still a promising lynch over Trans at that point.
Explain how it only suggests scum.

Because the town doc will always CC yadda yadda

It leads to an outed PR which is only good for....scum yeah you guessed it.

As vt you claim vt
As scum you don't have to so he's scum

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wasn't that L-1?

Yeah the guy is obviously trolling

I don't understand why ved is still not voting him what do you think

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People like trans ruin the fun of a town game for me

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My vote will probably end up somewhere on texcat/xfkyu

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transcend did nothing wrong. why the fuck would mafia retract. you guys are so narrow minded.

Because there was no way trans was not gettibg lynched after that CC. It would have been trans vs algebra which he would never have won

Also I thought the softing could be him pointing out to his buddies he thought that alg was doc and he expected to die

In hindsight he would probably not have done that and just stated it outright to his teammates in twilight or something

Anyway fakeclaiming as VT is shit and you cannot justify trans's behaviour

Not like it matters but w/e

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Don't apologise to someone who plays like trash

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Saru is playing like shit and basing 2/3 of his reads off of preflip interactions which is really really bad

I'm rethinking this town read

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Saru don't do dry meta pls tyvm

I'm not really happy with this texcat wagon especially since texcat just seems relaxed and chats about whatever subject he seems fit

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Saru is playing like shit and basing 2/3 of his reads off of preflip interactions which is really really bad

I'm rethinking this town read

So what about my read on you then? Is that bad as well? And why exactly? Be specific(I know that's not your forte, but try).

You apparently don't like the Texcat wagon, but also haven't really explained why Dwlee's case on Texcat was bad. You said it wasn't even a case, but didn't even explain why. Texcat also said she didn't agree with my scum read on you, but didn't explain why.

Also don't like Texcat's whole "Saru is the voice of reason" but then "meh his Tier scum read is wrong."

Not liking this butt-fucking between you two.

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VOTE: texcat
If this flips red, I'm voting vulture boy next.

Yeah it's just that I find dwlee ultimately uninteresting.

Why I disliked you is the fact that you are chaining lynches. You did it with blackstar (if blackstar is scum, we kill xfk and tiershift) and now you're doing it with texcat (if texcat is scum, we lynch tier). You cannot find reasons to scumread players, so you just associatively scumread them, which is the easiest for scum to fake.

Next, you indicated that you dislike the texcat wagon and now you jump on it with the justification that me and texcat defend each other? That cancels out the whole disgust that you had before?

And do not try me with the 'being specific is not your forte' remarks. That's just plain unnecessary.

So what I want to know is who you really think is scum here. Before you thought it was blackstar, now it's suddenly texcat based on almost nothing. Who do you scumread by something else than associations?

It's sad that you just throw me in your scumpile by first saying I'm blackstar's and xfkyu's buddy and then 1 page or so later i'm suddenly texcat's buddy. Then you didn't really believe in your theory at first, did you?

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Let's not cut this day short, shall we

I think texcat is pretty much unsaveable now for his buddies if he is scum so I don't really think the lack of resistance is telling. I'm not sure tex is the best lynch option regardless.

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So I'm going to tldr saru's posts because they are too long
1706:
1. Texcat wagon is just outright stupid
2. Blackstar is opportunistic scum
3. Xfkyu is too nice to blackstar so also xfkyu is also scum
4. There is one lurkscum and tier is scummier than tex so it is tier

1735:
Step 1. Texcat said I'm the voice of reason but that my tiershift read is wrong. Tiershift does not back up his statements about texcat
Step 2.???
Step 3. Tiershift and texcat are scum together

What do others think about this?

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Nothing impressive but he seems to be trying compared to others

Trying to be opportunist yes

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jesus just give a readslist or something

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This game makes me sick usually but right now it makes me laugh

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Saru can you respond to my posts please

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Saru why did you originally scumread tex because I don't understand

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I don't like the gerry wagon even though his whole defence is selfmeta crap which is not worth a damn

P edit What question

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You voted texcat so that was the start of a scumread. And that was purely based on associatives?

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Ok saru glad you're not teying to defend it

Sonia you annoy people with your spamposting and this is what happens so stop whining

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Yeah gerry I saw that I think it's really scummy

Then again you haven't done anything all game but scream at people that you'd be townread if you were scum

Btw do you see the problem with that

Bye sonia

I don't mind anyone leaving who inflates page count beyond readable

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I think I'm hopping on Texcat

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Why are we massclaiming?

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This is probably mylo, or maybe we are at 5:2:1 right now in which case it's lylo, i think.

In any way, a scum lynch today is vital.

I'd say our biggest chance of a scum lynch today is xfkyu because of the night 1 kill and the disappearance of the xkfyu pressure without a reason for it, really.

Texcat might be scum as well, but might also just be an extraordinarily easy lynch option kept alive by scum for lynching later.

I think I like dwlee, mimi and blackstar for town and sonia less and less. That leaves uh sonia vedith and texcat for scum? I'm not sure about the dwlee texcat placement they just might be reversed.

Dwlee what do you think avout xfkyu?

Also upon another look massclaim is a good idea.

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Actually for some reason my brain tells me mimi is more likely to be scum than dwlee

But I don't know why

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I might do some vca later

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Honestly sonia's screaming has just been a detriment to town cohesion and town passing correct judgment. I first regarded it as town overconfidence but I think it's probably very very effective scum theater.

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So yeah my proposed scumteam is sonia vedith and xkfyu and NOT texcat. I will reread to see if the evidence supports my reads but if I recall correctly sonia keeps scumreading vedith without ever trying to build a wagon on him.

Vedith also just keeps on lurking by this game without ever being called out for it which is what I expect scum to do here on town vedith.

Xkfyu makes very much sense as scum on the early saru wagon and has also just been coasting this game.

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Yeah I agreed with it as soon as I saw it was mylo

I'm used to that being D4 at the earliest in a 13p game

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I totally agree with tex being obvious vig shot
Which means alg prob blocked a kill yesterday
And we have a SK.

But I don't think tex is scum here

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Also if there is a SK we still hunt mafia today not SK as even two town kills after a mafia lynch leaves us in a better situation than a SK lynch
4:2 is worse than 3:1:1. That's not even speaking about crosskills.

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I'll go back and read, dwlee. Now that you talk about texcat I remember the opportunistic jump onto gerry but then again everyone's vote on gerry was opportunistic.

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I doubt anyone can disagree with texcat needing to be the vig target. Her mere presence makes it so that a few players are absolutely unwilling to fo anything but lynch her.

I don't know if she's scum. She's definitely in my main PoE pool of 4 (xf, sonia, ved,tex) but I cannot say I am completely caught up or will keep these people in my PoE pool after being caught up and massclaim.

If you look at my posts yesterday you can see that I felt the same way. I did want texcat removed and stated my vote would end up there. You can see that I did not show support for the gerry wagon.

I did not like the posts you made on tex as it was basically just quoting posts and walling iirc. I never saw any nice summary that stated why tex was scum, only quotes with commentary. A case is something you write up.

Anyway I said I would do VCA and I definitely will. If I see a time where scum should be struggling to start wagons and there is still (almost) only town on texcat, I am definitely voting tex, don't worry.

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Also I'm sorry if what I say about your case offends you I made those posts at a time where I was truly fed up with the gamestate. I'm interested in having a constructive discussion right now and not in arguing about your case. So let's please not talk about that.

Also sonia if you are town, which I doubt, please stop the spamposting as it makes me hate this game and kills my enjoyment but also my post rate. I'm really looking to gamesolve today, not to argue.

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You may talk about anything that is public knowledge sonia

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Sonia, claim your results, please. Stop arguing now, there's no need for it.

I have a lot to say about the claims but I will hold off from discussion until massclaim finishes.

I claim VT

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Blackstar xk and mimi still need to claim, let's hold off on discussion until then.

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Alright so xk can only be scum if sonia is, great.

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I think the foses on sonia/gerry are slightly justified, but i feel their actions are nai.

Get out of here with that. You can't believe both.

I think the foses on sonia/gerry are slightly justified, but i feel their actions are nai.

Get out of here with that. You can't believe both.

I do motherfucker

I know their play contradicts with the average Joe here so

SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP

Not.

A.

Chance.

shouldn't you at least wait for the catch-up post?

Is the slot any less scummy because of the replacement?

not obvious town, because he isn't obvtowning like zyf

Zyf is sooooo not obvtowning anything.

Gonna say Green flag It was a hard green flag day 1 but it's lesser now

Explain this sonia

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Sonia your behaviour does not match up with your result

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No sonia you make it obvious that xk was your inno result upon your flip. That's what you do. Especially in this game when there are quickhammers.

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Sonia is today's lynch but I'd like to coordinate vig shot as well.

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Texcat who would you vig rn

P edit yeah blackstar, correct. But better have a confirmwd townie than none, right?

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Gonna say Green flag It was a hard green flag day 1 but it's lesser now

So the hard green flag day 1 part was a lie?

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I've come to different insights.

Sonia is not to be lynched today. I don't buy scum under pressure going for a PR claim when there is already so much town power.

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Sonia are you willing to trust me here?

Please unvote

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Actually this isn't quite true. If Sonia is lying about the claim, then it's actually in her best interest to fake inno a townie.

Read my post. Xf can only be scum if sonia is. If sonia is scum, he does not have to be.

Lynching the potential cop here is just plain wrong. Town has such a low chance of winning this game, that we better just hope the claim is valid and use further results.

We need to hit scum on consecutive days anyway. Better lynch the guy we would have lynched tomorrow today and let the potential cop get another result.

Especially if tex is a SK this is the best play as we might have a mislynch to spare later.

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Plus mimi there is literally 0 reason for sonia to fakeclaim cop in this situation

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Also vedith is scum

P edit I think I'm going back to my dog avi would that help
Sonia just unvote rn
Why are you not on vedith instead

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Why does anyone think mimi is scum?

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Also dwlee xk cannot be lynched before sonia who is not getting lynched today

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Xk either claim or link me your claim post if I have missed it.

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Mimi claimed vt in 2193 which is why indeed xf goes last but he needs to claim.

Vedith it's cool that you want to lynch the cop today but as we need to lynch scum both today and tomorrow we had better flip the lynch order so IF sonia is a cop she gets a chance of a result. Nothing to lose, a lot to gain.

Please tell me you understand this.
'sonia is scum so she is not a cop so it doesn't matter' is not a valid response and shows you do not understand what i just said. If you want to lynch sonia today, you will have to show me what we have to gain by lynching her today instead of tomorrow.

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texcat

who did you target day 1?

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For me it's lynch dwlee vig vedith lynch sonia tomorrow if scum lynch xkfyu if not something like mimi but I need to check to see if I'm giving blackstar a free pass.

The promised VCA IS still very much on.

whether or not texcat is a SK his wincon necessitates him to lynch scum, especially if they have a roleblocker. So he can be regarded as town for the coming 2 days.

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Difference is, this is MyLo.
You are suggesting to lynch possibly a chance of someone else being scum rather than scum which is 100% (unless you're a moron, of course).

Yeah except your scum hunting skill is not 100%

Think of all the times you were 100% sure someone was scum. I'd be surprised if your accuracy there gets above 70%. I'm happily accepting the 30% chance sonia is a cop.
For me, this chance is even bigger. But even you should realise your scum hunting is far from perfect.

So yeah, just assume sonia is scum and work the associations from there.

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But letting the bp live another night does not bring town anything

Letting the cop live would.

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I'm thinking dwlee should be investigated by sonia which means lynch vedith and vig one of myself/mimi/blackstar of which I prefer someone that is not me but whatever.

Sonia absolutely needs to be tomorrow's lynch. That gives us confirmed inno(s) or guilties.

I'm just working off the assumption that tex is actually 3rd party because otherwise this game is as good as lost.

P-edit yeah I realised that

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Nah it's not mylo I think

Sk will shoot scum
I'm just working from the assumption we have a SK because fighting 3 scum with a RB is a lost cause.

I'm saying I should objectively be in the vig pool as I belong with mimi and blackstar within the VT claim group. I don't want to be vigged but I think black and mimi are town so whatever.

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Everyone just needs to stop assuming 3 scum because we can simply not feasibly win such a game anymore

So please just assume 2 scum

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If 3 scum, sonia is definitely town, btw. No way tracker/doc/vig/1-shot bp is balanced against a scum RB

P-edit no I believe tex is SK

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Yeah I assumed that based on the lowell kill but it's actually not a given. Very likely thought considering the fact lowell was a pretty likely doc target.

I really need to have texcats day 1 target to update my thought process.

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Why did you target dwlee night 1 texcat?

No ved, texcat can be lying because I'd expect Sk texcat to target lowell which also matches up with the facts.

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I just don't believe today is mylo

If it is we lose simple as that

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Oh hey no lynch is a pretty damn solid idea texcat

I think im running with it.

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Tex why did you shoot saru last night

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Texcat just townslipped because there is no way sk would ask mod if bp gets informed of his shot

Or this is a very deliberate ploy

But probably this means 3 scum feck

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Plus makes dwlee conftown

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Oh yeah I would totally convince town we could lynch whoever then point out a townslip that discredits my entire earlier thought process

Yeah 10/10 that's how scum convinces all the townies to carelessly vote

Thanks for teaching me how to be a great scumplayer vedith

I will be back tmrw with VCA

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I could totally see a vedith xkfyu sonia team dwlee how about you?

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It's either vedith blackstar mimi or sonia HAS to be scum. Prolly the latter.

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This game is so mich more enjoyable without sonia around

And there seems to be some sort of cohesion rn

Vedith im not voting anyone until I do my analysis.

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Dwlee but the point is mimi does not HAVE to be scum by poe unless you are sure vedith is not scum. Why do you think vedith is town dwlee?

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Also sonia if you come in ranting I might just snap and vote you jsyk

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Also vedith no one pointed out the townslip but w/e

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Vedith I feel sonia might be trying to buy herself and her partner a day because that's all they need to win the game

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Yeah but holding the fact that I try to push a 2 man scumteam against me when I personally debunk that theory is unfair.

I'm not asking you to townread me for catching the slip

Texcat, I just think it's very SKesque to kill the person that suspects you, but whatever. I'm just taking the townslip as non-faked for now.

Also sonia is prob not town tex

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Yeah that's why I currently suspect xkfyu is scum RB and scuk needed the RB alive seeing how there was an extra NK

Anyway I really feel tex dwlee and ved are teying to gamesolve with me so thwy are town

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Vedith I really think you are town based on these last pages where you tey to work with me despite disagreeing with me

I will trust Dwlee's read of you and sonia not being scum together which makes a lot of sense actually

However I really think you're wrong about xkfyu look at their stances this day

I think xkfyu mimi sonia

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Really mimi xk and sonia seem to be having the same interest in lynches

Blackstar is all over the place but a mimi vote does not make sense for scumblackstar.

VOTE: sonia

I'm not overthinking this.

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I'm interested in mimi and xfkyu's responses

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BP scum makes no sense
Making a vig that has even bigger chances of hitting town than scum than usual is just ridiculous.

Lso what I was mainly doing today was working together not tryong to get towncred off texcat which I openly stated that I did not deserve towncred for. Changing thoughts rapidly is not scummy. I immediately incorporated new evidence into my reads which is not scummy at all actually

But I feel good about the votes. If it actually is mylo and if I'm wrong sonia should already have been hammered.

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mod You switched mine and mimi's vote

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At the start of the game when I got cop I knew I was gonna have to play different because I've never flipped PR before I normally try to be more calm and relaxed and take a back seat but I felt like if I did that I'd get a giant scum shot in the face

Because scum shoot lurkers instead of keeping them alive, right!

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Assuming sonia is town if we lynch scum and then vigilante shoot the town in mimi / blackstar / tier / vedith we win

Short in time rn so I probably missed something but how does vig targeting town make us win?

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if sonia is town and veidth is town mimi/tiershift/blackstar is confirmed to be the scum team..

Except I would hammer now which I'm not doing

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Why is everyone like this game is autowin

I enjoyed the feeling of town cohesion I felt around page 91

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I was thinking for a moment sonia was confirmwd scum because no scum quickhammering but this is mylo not lylo

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Why do you assume sonia is town dwlee

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Mimi blackstar vedith is not too farfetched a scumteam I suppose

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Sure my posts are stinking non committal I agree

Just give me some more time okay

Now that I think about it blackstar really could be scum also without mimi

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Dwlee I'm pretty sad you immediately voted me

Oh well