Mini Normal 1823 - Game Over

[Zyf]

VOTE: transcend
Hello
This is my first normal

[Zyf]

Has anyone else played with sonia/transcend in the same match

[Zyf]

Hi again Zyf

VOTE: Lowell

Before he town reads all the mafia again

Other acceptable lynches are sonia and gerry but those can be discussed later.

Why would you lynch sonia?
I'm town this time i swear

[Zyf]

I am ok with this wagon
VOTE: mimikyu

[Zyf]

Bc noob

yeah well
why would you want to kill newbs when you're strong on reading them (referring to gyr here)

also apparently i'm not a newb so yay?

[Zyf]

VOTE: Mimikyu

Haven't seen their avatar but it's probably an anime one. Fuck anime.

also
mimikyu is the new sun/moon pokemon that has the pikachu drawing for a hat

[Zyf]

Has anyone else played with sonia/transcend in the same match

No, why? Is there something we should know?

they've played together on another site
so they have a HUGE meta advantage in reading each other
i got kinda hurt by that in one of my mafia games (though that's not why I lost at all).

[Zyf]

not sure why transcend wants sonia dead when he can read her so well

[Zyf]

Zyf do you have anything to do with zymf

no

I missed this lol
who is zymf

[Zyf]

Hello I is n00b I just learned how to post on this site I have never won take it easy on me please as I don't know how this game works I am anime weeb desu desu

VOTE: Transcend fking liar

MODS how much may I swear.

....what is that last sentence supposed to mean?

[Zyf]

Z

It was mostly a joke

Read our newbie game, i didn't instantly lynch her

My completed game experience with Blackstar is about 13 pages then subbing out then him right after me

oh yeah
you had that whole thing about ERMAGHERD CONFSCUM
that i thought was @ me lmao


also my name is not Z if you can't type 3 letters you're the laziest fuck i've ever met

[Zyf]

She's asking if we're allowed to curse. I think we can do it as much as we want, but we're not allowed to insult people

afaik it's only problematic when it's used as insult

[Zyf]

ugh
rvs is so dull

[Zyf]

Sonia is definitely town

?

[Zyf]

fk yeah a tr let's just not question it and keep going (B

i don't get how anything you've done is ai

[Zyf]

fk yeah a tr let's just not question it and keep going (B

i don't get how anything you've done is ai

much less "definitely" anything

[Zyf]

fk yeah a tr let's just not question it and keep going (B

i don't get how anything you've done is ai

much less "definitely" anything

I mean I don't either but I'm not gonna question it! :3

that isn't very good play
i mean it's completely possible it's scum buddying

[Zyf]

He hasn't even explained his townread yet and you're already saying that he might be buddying?

yes
because sonia has done nothing AI

[Zyf]

He hasn't even explained his townread yet and you're already saying that he might be buddying?

Hello I is n00b I just learned how to post on this site I have never won take it easy on me please as I don't know how this game works I am anime weeb desu desu

VOTE: Transcend fking liar

MODS how much may I swear.

....what is that last sentence supposed to mean?

Does this mean that you understood the first part of the post??

VOTE: Sonia
For playing the noob card, but mostly for the lack of punctuation.

lol yes I did

because transcend/sonia have a trolly relationship at the beginning of games afaik
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67015 <<my other game with them

[Zyf]

Hello I is n00b I just learned how to post on this site I have never won take it easy on me please as I don't know how this game works I am anime weeb desu desu

VOTE: Transcend fking liar

MODS how much may I swear.

i feel like scum would only say this because they don't want to be attacked, so they can just lurk around.

Yeah I curse a lot because I FUCKING WANT TO LETS GO WOO...i'm bored.

then this post completely contradicts that, so that indicates that sonia is town

uh no that's terrible reasoning
you also might say this because you like swearing a lot but you don't want to get banned. As any alignment.
Which makes perfect sense with the second post
there's absolutely no contradiction there.

[Zyf]

well since sonia is an alt, nvm. read nullified.

sonia decided to create an alt after like 1 game
i don't get why but its a thing apparently

[Zyf]

I think texcat and Sonia are both maf. Says Mafia Scum and Goon below their names.

>doesn't vote

VOTE: gary

[Zyf]

Ha. And are you still claiming that you just learned how to post on this site?

jesus christ it's just a bit of early-game goof/sarcasm.

[Zyf]

VOTE: gerry

This game annoys me already

your attitude annoys me
but your vote is good

[Zyf]

Hello I is n00b I just learned how to post on this site I have never won take it easy on me please as I don't know how this game works I am anime weeb desu desu

VOTE: Transcend fking liar

MODS how much may I swear.

i feel like scum would only say this because they don't want to be attacked, so they can just lurk around.

Yeah I curse a lot because I FUCKING WANT TO LETS GO WOO...i'm bored.

then this post completely contradicts that, so that indicates that sonia is town

well since sonia is an alt, nvm. read nullified.

these two thoughts don't go together
you vote someone because of obvious contradiction but somehow being an alt affects that even though there's no meta in play?

really don't like u rn

Town: literally no one smh guys
Tiny tad bit mroe than null but probably should be in null: transcend, tiershift
Null: those who shall remain un-named
Tiny tad bit less than null but probably should be in null: texcat
scummish: gary
Die scum: algebra

[Zyf]

Ha. And are you still claiming that you just learned how to post on this site?

jesus christ it's just a bit of early-game goof/sarcasm.

i dont think so

What the fuck is wrong with you

it's clearly trolling/joking

[Zyf]

k but actually though contribute a little sonia

[Zyf]

Zyf please stop posting so much

Think about my sanity

Please

i'm sorry
i have 25%-ish participation in most of my games
ask transcend lol

[Zyf]

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

This does come across as forced. I don't know why you felt the need to ask for permission to vote. And you didn't even vote for mimikyu in the end. It feels weird

VOTE: gerry

tihs

[Zyf]

How is it forced? I practiced my opening at least 5 times........ Darn.

Why didn't you just say what felt natural?

that sounded like a joke man

[Zyf]

I believe i'm at L2 already. And it's not even Page 5 yet. How... interesting!!

lol
it's 7 to hammer

[Zyf]

I believe i'm at L2 already. And it's not even Page 5 yet. How... interesting!!

and ironically, you don't vote anyone one your wagon when one person could easily be scum trying to coast on a wagon
fancy that

[Zyf]

Can confirm

Guys, this is typical sonia and gerry. They'll be taking this game seriously in a bit.

YOU DON'T KNOW ME YOU DON'T KNOW MY LIFE

Okay I'm not gonna get srs unless I feel like it cause rn I have music blasted and I'm already getting annoyed by some of you not to mention I'm nervous so gotta relax.

bullshit you're nervous

[Zyf]

"I don't feel like being serious and the fact that you're trying to force me to annoys me so I'm going to continue not doing sh!t and say I'm nervous which is an appeal to pity even though this post continues to add nothing"

[Zyf]

how you forget how i play after 1 game I don't understand
also I don't exactly have a meta

[Zyf]

Zyf can you fix your avatar. It's annoying me lol

that's the idea

[Zyf]

"I don't feel like being serious and the fact that you're trying to force me to annoys me so I'm going to continue not doing sh!t and say I'm nervous which is an appeal to pity even though this post continues to add nothing"

I'm not nervous because of the game I'm nervous cause of who's in it "but don't worry let's just listen to Zyr the guy who slips" LOL XD

VOTE: Zyr Could be a real vote could be fake who knows.

jesus
fucking
christ
it's 3 letters

where exactly did i "slip" lol
also that's being a jerk to the mod

[Zyf]

VOTE: gerry

i don't mind a joke or two once in a while but this is unacceptable

but sonia isn't joking? wut

[Zyf]

sonia doesn't like me
nuff said

[Zyf]

Can I be day vig and shoot Zyr in his fucking face please?

holy shit just spell my name properly

[Zyf]

K so i'm just gonna sit on my vote because sonia's pulling a gyrlander and i cba

[Zyf]

her opening was newbtown, saying that she was new and scared, then following up with a lot of crazy shit that I couldn't image newbscum doing

but turns out she wasn't new

I find it almost impossible to believe you took that seriously

[Zyf]

VOTE: BlackStar

Seriously?

[Zyf]

Wtf how is alg town

[Zyf]

But either their logic is terrible or they're lying

[Zyf]

But either their logic is terrible or they're lying

how is my logic flawed?

Because even if she was a newbie and was acting shy, that doesn't mean she's scum.
Like at all.
It's called personality.

[Zyf]

VOTE: BlackStar

Seriously?

Expressing confusion is scummy.

We have 2 wagons, a developing game, and you naked-vote 6 pages in with no other contributions

And then misconstrue my slight irritation and surprise as confusion.
You furthermore state that confusion is scummy--which I also disagree with.
VOTE: eegersnek

[Zyf]

damn six pages in twelve hours, what a nightmare. give me a hot minute or two to come up with a townbloc. transcend isn't going to be on it. I agree with gerry that's he's trying to pocket everyone.

VOTE: blackstar

nor is this guy.

Hello.
I do these types of things
Sonia/Transcend/My newbie game was a 51-page D1
:3

[Zyf]

Why is blackstar scum again

[Zyf]

transcend please vote someone who will give us a coherent wagon, voting someone who hasn't posted and is probably going to get prodded/replaced doesn't help us.
VOTE: gerry

@MH-Prod policy?

[Zyf]

i don't even remember who my vote is on

but no one has struck me as voteworthy yet just a few weird candidates lol

don't even lie there's literally a votecount ON THIS PAGE
you're voting mimikyu who hasn't even posted
you could at least vote /someone/

[Zyf]

VOTE: Zyr

TRIGGERED

[Zyf]

Z's town i think his questions were very genuine.

Agree completely.

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

No you can't vote me for it but you can like it

zyf, and to a lesser extent, sonia, are town.

I'm not having trans this game. nor tex. put them in a pile with blackstar.

Why do you think Sonia is town?

transcend please vote someone who will give us a coherent wagon, voting someone who hasn't posted and is probably going to get prodded/replaced doesn't help us.
VOTE: gerry

@MH-Prod policy?

The game hadn't even been going for 24 hours Zyf.

Sheeping 50.
VOTE: Sonia

still want a response tho
it's good to know whether it's on request or automatic after X days

+1 to why is sonia anything but null

[Zyf]

Anyone who says ____ reads are bad without saying why will be put on my list of scum

I'm looking for him to justify those reads.

Also it looks like you're actually playing now. Welcome

Thank you for playing

Anyone who says ____ reads are bad without saying why will be put on my list of scum

+1

It's almost like it's directed at me even though I explained myself

[Zyf]

It's nice knowing I can do whatever I want in this game and not get scumread because it would be an act on futility

Anyway no tr so far just a slight sr on snake boy for coming up with a weird reason to vote

That is incorrect
Past a certain point of fluff I'm going to get pissed and vote you

[Zyf]

Wait a second
If there was a Night 0
Why did no one die

[Zyf]

Lowell is town but I officially don't trust him for jack shit because he makes terrible life decisions

[Zyf]

Lowell is town but I officially don't trust him for jack shit because he makes terrible life decisions

haha ouch! damn, you know I can hear you, right? That's too far for someone you only know online.

Unless by "terrible life decisions" you're referring to the fact that I've been playing on this site for over a decade and have yet to win a game, in which case, yes, you are correct, and carry on.

>exaggeration of your overdominant attitude considering you've given us no way to determine you're town

[Zyf]

What the fuck you have a 0% winrate?

[Zyf]

Wait a second
If there was a Night 0
Why did no one die

Is this serious?

Yes

[Zyf]

Wait a second
If there was a Night 0
Why did no one die

Is this serious?

Yes

Because I've only played newbies

[Zyf]

Lowell is town but I officially don't trust him for jack shit because he makes terrible life decisions

haha ouch! damn, you know I can hear you, right? That's too far for someone you only know online.

Unless by "terrible life decisions" you're referring to the fact that I've been playing on this site for over a decade and have yet to win a game, in which case, yes, you are correct, and carry on.

This will be the first w you get lowell. We both flipped t.

Oh wait you wanna lynch me?

U gon learn boi.

Wait SERIOUSLY?
0% winrate after 10 YEARS?

[Zyf]

Guys, this is mafia not "The roast on my fellow players"

[Zyf]

Wait a second
If there was a Night 0
Why did no one die

Is this serious?

Yes

Because I've only played newbies

Ah ok. Well basically night 0 is generally just for flavor. Never played in a game where there was actually night actions that "night".

Also, per Lowell's wiki, he has a 41% winrate in 98 games. Was a joke.

Oh ok

Lowell is still VI

[Zyf]

I'm here. Who's scum?

You for being late

[Zyf]

@Mh-were there actions in Night 0?

[Zyf]

@Mh-were there actions in Night 0?

Lol no way he's gonna answer that.

But does it hurt to try tho?

[Zyf]

Lowell is town but I officially don't trust him for jack shit because he makes terrible life decisions

haha ouch! damn, you know I can hear you, right? That's too far for someone you only know online.

Unless by "terrible life decisions" you're referring to the fact that I've been playing on this site for over a decade and have yet to win a game, in which case, yes, you are correct, and carry on.

This will be the first w you get lowell. We both flipped t.

Oh wait you wanna lynch me?

U gon learn boi.

Wait SERIOUSLY?
0% winrate after 10 YEARS?

I don't understand why you were so sure that Sonia was just joking and can't see that Lowell was.

because sonia was deliberately using horrible grammar/silly language

lowell was like, typing normally

[Zyf]

VOTE: Gerry

Forced

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

This does come across as forced. I don't know why you felt the need to ask for permission to vote. And you didn't even vote for mimikyu in the end. It feels weird

VOTE: gerry

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

This does come across as forced. I don't know why you felt the need to ask for permission to vote. And you didn't even vote for mimikyu in the end. It feels weird

VOTE: gerry

tihs

Gerry is town, which means that one of these 3 is almost certainly scum.

Sonia is also town though, so Blackstar and Zyf are my lynch pool for today.

VOTE: Zyf

What scummy thing did I do again?
when I said this i was referring to "why do you need permission to vote"

[Zyf]

@Mh-were there actions in Night 0?

Lol no way he's gonna answer that.

But does it hurt to try tho?

It just makes you look like you're trying too hard to ask something that people wouldn't expect scum to ask.

maybe because
A) there's now a dispute over it
B) I'm town
C) I've never dealt with night-0
D) both sides make sense
hmm?

[Zyf]

I don't understand all the Sonia town reads.

Well, I'm not going to explain mine, other than to say that she looks town to me.

I can believe that /now/
about 3 pages ago any read on sonia was absolute BS because she did 0 alignment indicative things

[Zyf]

@Xyfuku
you seriously don't see anything wrong with gerry never voting? Even after saying a bunch of things to suggest people are voteworthy to them?

[Zyf]

Okay Blackstar. Duly noted.

^
transcend gets very minor town points

[Zyf]

Can I vote mimikyu cause I'm jealous of their name? That pokemon is so cute

good place for silly/RVS vote; it was already a wagon too

I think texcat and Sonia are both maf. Says Mafia Scum and Goon below their names.

another good place for silly/RVS vote

Can confirm

Guys, this is typical sonia and gerry. They'll be taking this game seriously in a bit.

lol stop trying to pocket me

Good place for semi-serious vote

I believe i'm at L2 already. And it's not even Page 5 yet. How... interesting!!

Good place to vote literally any of the ppl voting him

Why are my maf partners bussing me? We didn't discuss this

Same as above

Zyf can you fix your avatar. It's annoying me lol

Good place for silly/RVS vote
---
so at some point in the middle of that I do this

I think texcat and Sonia are both maf. Says Mafia Scum and Goon below their names.

>doesn't vote

VOTE: gary

which clearly articulates my problem with them
they don't vote at all afterwards
which at this point just ticks me off

but noooooo, that's scummy as fuck

[Zyf]

That mimi guy is scum btw

what a great way of convincing me that I should vote for them

[Zyf]

VOTE: BlackStar

Seriously?

Expressing confusion is scummy.

don't forget this if eagersnek is serious

[Zyf]

VOTE: BlackStar

Seriously?

Expressing confusion is scummy.

We have 2 wagons, a developing game, and you naked-vote 6 pages in with no other contributions

And then misconstrue my slight irritation and surprise as confusion.
You furthermore state that confusion is scummy--which I also disagree with.
VOTE: eegersnek

I was saying that BlackStar expressing confusion was scummy, not you.

still
that's not a scumtell

[Zyf]

If townies are normally confused at the start of the game, then they will find that unremarkable and not mention it. Whereas scum will find it unusual, and they'll want to emphasize it to seem more town, so they point it out.

this is a falsehood.

also usually people who point out scumtells that aren't actually scumtells are scum

[Zyf]

STOP TROLLING ME AND GET ON THE SCUM WAGON, SONIA

[Zyf]

If townies are normally confused at the start of the game, then they will find that unremarkable and not mention it. Whereas scum will find it unusual, and they'll want to emphasize it to seem more town, so they point it out.

Black towning it up a bit

Does that mean he's scum since he's not scummy

VOTE: eagersnake

stop with the wifom that's disgusting

[Zyf]

WAIT STOP I THINK THAT'S L-2 OR L-1

[Zyf]

If townies are normally confused at the start of the game, then they will find that unremarkable and not mention it. Whereas scum will find it unusual, and they'll want to emphasize it to seem more town, so they point it out.

Black towning it up a bit

Does that mean he's scum since he's not scummy

VOTE: eagersnake

stop with the wifom that's disgusting

ignore the first quote

[Zyf]

WAIT STOP I THINK THAT'S L-2 OR L-1

nah we good

[Zyf]

oh hello
he could be newb town VI
or he could be newb scum

either way they deserve lynch
pedit-yeah sorry
i just got worried cuz all those votes were being thrown down

[Zyf]

I can't tell if Snake is noob town digging his own grave or just silly scum. Lots of votes on him in a short amount of time is a bit suspect.

do you have anything else to share
since apparently you were keeping track of the game but lurking

[Zyf]

My best guess for the 3 (usually there's 3 scum) wolves are texcat eager and saru

oh wait yeah there's 3 scum not 2 lmao

[Zyf]

Not any solid ones. I might have to re-read at a later point as this game is moving quite quickly and I'm mostly skimming to catch up. I'll take a look at the Snake wagon, as that built up too quickly, which usually means atleast 1 scum is on it.

Do you think wagon speed day 1 is indicative of its alignment makeup?

not the way snake is playing, no
they've managed to contradict themselves in less than 10 posts, that's a fucking achievement if I've ever seen one

[Zyf]

Do you think wagon speed day 1 is indicative of its alignment makeup?[/quote]

Is he even a n00b and also I stand by my point that noob not refusing to take human emotion into account is BS

Algebra did that too, in their TR on you.
Which is why they could be scum too

actually jesus christ we need to be careful not to lose ppl who post less

[Zyf]

I took a quick look at Snake's post history and he's apparently played IRC mafia and then like 3 newbie games before this game. Unless he's played forum mafia before he came here, then I guess he is a n00b to an extent, as newbie games have fixed set-ups that are known whereas normal games are a different ballgame. I could be wrong though. Would like him to clear that up.

this is my first normal game; i'm not fucking up that hard

bullshit
if snek flips scum saru is scum
and i'm like 99% sure snek is scum rn

[Zyf]

What scummy thing did I do again?
when I said this i was referring to "why do you need permission to vote"

Right. You agreed with BlackStar that Gerry wasn't joking in his post about voting Mimi and that his post was scummy. That is clearly not the case.

except that it wasn't just that
he did it again later

I don't think much of it now because apparently that's his normal play, but he refrained from voting MULTIPLE times
also you can joke and vote at the same time, that's why it's RVS. And that's why there's a thing called "jokevoting"
do you seriously think the entire makeup of the early mimikyu wagon was serious?

[Zyf]

Saru hard claimed scum lol

Do you still think Snake is scum and Saru is defending a partner?

FWIW, I think Saru is scum either defending a partner or WKing Snake.

VOTE: Saru

NO
we lynch snake FIRST and saru SECOND.
Not the other way around
get the fuck back on the snake wagon

[Zyf]

I took a quick look at Snake's post history and he's apparently played IRC mafia and then like 3 newbie games before this game. Unless he's played forum mafia before he came here, then I guess he is a n00b to an extent, as newbie games have fixed set-ups that are known whereas normal games are a different ballgame. I could be wrong though. Would like him to clear that up.

this is my first normal game; i'm not fucking up that hard

bullshit
if snek flips scum saru is scum
and i'm like 99% sure snek is scum rn

So sure that you haven't voted him yet lol.

lmao
I voted like 6 pages ago

[Zyf]

VOTE: BlackStar

Seriously?

Expressing confusion is scummy.

We have 2 wagons, a developing game, and you naked-vote 6 pages in with no other contributions

And then misconstrue my slight irritation and surprise as confusion.
You furthermore state that confusion is scummy--which I also disagree with.
VOTE: eegersnek

I am also the one that brought this terrible shit back up

[Zyf]

Okay Blackstar. Duly noted.

^
transcend gets very minor town points

Why?

#tunneling
For mentioning it in the first place. I was on my way to asking it myself, I know I'm town.
"Very minor" because I suppose I could see scum doing it too

[Zyf]

I took a quick look at Snake's post history and he's apparently played IRC mafia and then like 3 newbie games before this game. Unless he's played forum mafia before he came here, then I guess he is a n00b to an extent, as newbie games have fixed set-ups that are known whereas normal games are a different ballgame. I could be wrong though. Would like him to clear that up.

this is my first normal game; i'm not fucking up that hard

bullshit
if snek flips scum saru is scum
and i'm like 99% sure snek is scum rn

So sure that you haven't voted him yet lol.

lmao
I voted like 6 pages ago

Actually you voted Gerry afterwards and have yet to switch to Snake.

lol no i didn't scroll thru my iso

[Zyf]

which at this point just ticks me off

but noooooo, that's scummy as fuck

You shouldn't scum read actions simply because they piss you off.

it was as much of a lead as I had at the time
I might as well vote someone to get them to actually play the game if there's nothing deemed by me scummy enough going on

[Zyf]

which at this point just ticks me off

but noooooo, that's scummy as fuck

You shouldn't scum read actions simply because they piss you off.

Mafia have more information than town

They know who is who

NO ONE

Should be able to town read eagersnake after he deliberately contradicted himself.

A forming bw is not an alignment indicative thing either.

So this is saru scum wking vi eagersnake for towncred.

are you /sure/ snake is town tho

[Zyf]

So if someone is caught in an obvious lie, you think that people shouldn't vote for them?

This seems like a loaded question. You'd have to prove to me that it was an "obvious" lie. From my understanding, he's being voted for contradicting himself, not lying. These are two different things. So what's the lie and what's the contradiction?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU'RE TERRIBAD

in a contradiction, one statement is always a lie

[Zyf]

Then die.

VOTE: Xkfuckyou

GET BACK ON ONE OF THE SCUM WAGONS RIGHT NOW.

[Zyf]

So if someone is caught in an obvious lie, you think that people shouldn't vote for them?

This seems like a loaded question. You'd have to prove to me that it was an "obvious" lie. From my understanding, he's being voted for contradicting himself, not lying. These are two different things. So what's the lie and what's the contradiction?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU'RE TERRIBAD

in a contradiction, one statement is always a lie

The point was whether the lie was "obvious" or not.

GOOD LORD
In a contradiction, one statement is always a lie.
Therefore, since you knew there was a contradiction, you knew one statement HAD to be a lie

fuck the snake wagon let's kill this fucker
VOTE: saru

PEdit-White knight-ing/-ed

[Zyf]

Z:

If saru flips scum (he will) i expect that it's more likely that snake was wked town vs. Wked scum.

IT'S 3 LETTERS YA LAZY DERP

thank you xyfku for spelling my name properly, auto conf-town

k but srlsy xyfku what are your reads right now?
You seem to be scumreading both transcend and I but in order for us to be scum we'd both have to be bussing hard as fuck.

[Zyf]

So if someone is caught in an obvious lie, you think that people shouldn't vote for them?

This seems like a loaded question. You'd have to prove to me that it was an "obvious" lie. From my understanding, he's being voted for contradicting himself, not lying. These are two different things. So what's the lie and what's the contradiction?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU'RE TERRIBAD

in a contradiction, one statement is always a lie

The point was whether the lie was "obvious" or not.

GOOD LORD
In a contradiction, one statement is always a lie.
Therefore, since you knew there was a contradiction, you knew one statement HAD to be a lie

fuck the snake wagon let's kill this fucker
VOTE: saru

PEdit-White knight-ing/-ed

herp derp a lie isn't always intentional if the contradiction wasn't intentional.

it doesn't matter if the contradiction wasn't intentional
it's not like a scumslip is intentional
I'm liking this saru wagon a lot

[Zyf]

Z:

If saru flips scum (he will) i expect that it's more likely that snake was wked town vs. Wked scum.

What scummy thing did I do again?
when I said this i was referring to "why do you need permission to vote"

Right. You agreed with BlackStar that Gerry wasn't joking in his post about voting Mimi and that his post was scummy. That is clearly not the case.

except that it wasn't just that
he did it again later

I don't think much of it now because apparently that's his normal play, but he refrained from voting MULTIPLE times
also you can joke and vote at the same time, that's why it's RVS. And that's why there's a thing called "jokevoting"
do you seriously think the entire makeup of the early mimikyu wagon was serious?

I don't know what the Mimi wagon has to do with anything.

it was a wagon made of jokevotes, meaning if he jokevoted too it would have been normal anyway

what's your attachment to my gerry vote anyway?

[Zyf]

it doesn't matter if the contradiction wasn't intentional
it's not like a scumslip is intentional
I'm liking this saru wagon a lot

Then by that logic, anyone who contradicts themselves is conf-scum? k.
I like my wagon a lot too. Easy way to catch scum when I flip town. hehehe

mmkay whatever you say caught scum

and no but they are likely scum, especially when it's done like that
it's a contradiction of fucking INTENTION, not even just a change of thought process

[Zyf]

Z:

If saru flips scum (he will) i expect that it's more likely that snake was wked town vs. Wked scum.

IT'S 3 LETTERS YA LAZY DERP

thank you xyfku for spelling my name properly, auto conf-town

k but srlsy xyfku what are your reads right now?
You seem to be scumreading both transcend and I but in order for us to be scum we'd both have to be bussing hard as fuck.

Actually, Transcend is a town read for me, along with Sonia and Gerry, and I'm leaning slightly town on Mimi.

I'm scum reading Saru and eagersnake, though I'm pretty sure that they aren't both scum and you, but that has lessened significantly lately. I could see TierShift as scum as well, based solely on 143.

"That has lessened significantly"
>continues pushing me after voting elsewhere
lack of continuity there m8

[Zyf]

it doesn't matter if the contradiction wasn't intentional
it's not like a scumslip is intentional
I'm liking this saru wagon a lot

Then by that logic, anyone who contradicts themselves is conf-scum? k.
I like my wagon a lot too. Easy way to catch scum when I flip town. hehehe

Yep, all 7 on your lynching wagon will be scum. Good catch.

yee

[Zyf]

K guys lets murder saru
fuck claiming

[Zyf]

Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now

what the fuck are you talking about
They /consent/ to their death
if they're town that's horrible play, but they're scum.

[Zyf]

I don't consent to my death. I haven't voted myself. y u lie

you don't have a problem being lynched
same thing scumbutt

[Zyf]

low key 110 posts
oops

[Zyf]

This seems to easy but hey w/e why should I care.

VOTE: Saru

If you get off the wagon I'm insta-voting you tomorrow

[Zyf]

AYYYYY ANOTHER CONTRADICTION BOI

BURN THE WITCH

[Zyf]

FoS Sonia
She's doing what I did in 1721 as scum

[Zyf]

lol

[Zyf]

do us a favor and vote saru before you go

[Zyf]

I love how people prob I'm joking when I call Zyr scum but just wait until the night is over.

i will be thoroughly impressed if you say "Lol zyf is scum"...i mean "Lol zyr is scum" and managed to get me lynched while doing absolutely nothing for the entirety of the game and just fingerpointing without literally ANY evidence whatsoever lmao

[Zyf]

This seems to easy but hey w/e why should I care.

VOTE: Saru

If you get off the wagon I'm insta-voting you tomorrow

if saru flips scum sonia is likely scum for her play

[Zyf]

This seems to easy but hey w/e why should I care.

VOTE: Saru

If you get off the wagon I'm insta-voting you tomorrow

if saru flips scum sonia is likely scum for her play

No. Scum-Sonia doesn't flip off of a scum-wagon when a lynch seems inevitable.

she's super willing to vote eagersnake, then says the saru wagon is bad, then gets on it anyway, and gets off it right after when barely prompted

[Zyf]

Then if I flip town, Zyf is likely scum for being so desperate for my lynch? Nice logic yo.

lol comes in to fingerpoint

2-there's ur evidence
Pedit-hey look, "ermagherd I'ma kill scum" w/ no reasoning

[Zyf]

Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now

Never said the Saru wagon was bad. I got on it cause it wasn't a bad vote then I got off cause you're an asshole who's mafia that needs to get rope

U WOT M8

[Zyf]

Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now

Never said the Saru wagon was bad. I got on it cause it wasn't a bad vote then I got off cause you're an asshole who's mafia that needs to get rope

U WOT M8

asshole != me != scum

[Zyf]

Zyr is srsly fucking scum and I will make sure I die trying to get him lynched

Why is he not bloodthirsty town? Don't let someone's annoying play discourage you from making the right play.

did you just call me annoying m8

sonia is stable and hepful then?

[Zyf]

Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now

Never said the Saru wagon was bad. I got on it cause it wasn't a bad vote then I got off cause you're an asshole who's mafia that needs to get rope

U WOT M8

I thought the Saru wagon was a joke but it wasn't so I gave it a legit read.

which was that it was bad?

[Zyf]

Zyr is srsly fucking scum and I will make sure I die trying to get him lynched

Why is he not bloodthirsty town? Don't let someone's annoying play discourage you from making the right play.

This fuckers upset I rekt him in game and acts like he's god but he's srsly trying to grab at straws on why I'm scum I mean I know I won't be lynched but I'll make dam sure I lynch him

lol u didn't wreck me
i fucked myself don't even take credit for it

"I know I won't be lynched"
what, are you an inno child? lol

[Zyf]

Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now

Never said the Saru wagon was bad. I got on it cause it wasn't a bad vote then I got off cause you're an asshole who's mafia that needs to get rope

U WOT M8

I thought the Saru wagon was a joke but it wasn't so I gave it a legit read.

which was that it was bad?

??? I don't understand what you're asking me

if you thought the saru wagon was a joke (which considering the thought that went into it, that's the first place I think you're bs-ing), then you thought the wagon wasn't a good one
so why the FUCK did you get on it?

[Zyf]

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

[Zyf]

GO FUCK YOURSELF

I don't want to play with him lynch him right now I don't want him in this god dam game

VOTE: Zyf

if you don't want to play with me, replace out
you have terribad reasons for voting me

[Zyf]

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

She really isn't scum.

convince me

[Zyf]

He's called me scum for so many reasons

1) I thought something was a joke so I when I find out it wasn't I voted my scum buddy and got off

2) I'm hard defending Saru right now clearly SARU IS MY TEMPLAR INNO BUDDY PLEASE GET OFF XDDDDDDDD

3) My scum game is playing to a POINT on what Zyf was in a random game (and he has yet to say what it is i'm doing btw)

Uh no
1) You thought a wagon was bad but got on it anyway
2) You try to convince everyone to gladiate between you and I when saru's been scummier than both of us combined followed directly by eagersnake
3) you dance around 2 wagons like I did in 1721, getting on and getting off so that you don't actually lynch your partner(s) but look like you support it anyway

[Zyf]

But i'm voting scum rn?????????

Even if you are, neither of you is going to convince anyone to vote for the other today.

WHOAAAA
I never said I wanted to vote sonia today
but if saru flips scum sonia is scummy as FUCK tomorrow

[Zyf]

1) To the walling against each other: All you're doing is making it easier for scum to hide and harder for town to be motivated to wade through and actually contribute.
2) Can we please stop talking about claims of any kind unless it's an explicit request in the face of a lynch.

noted
i'll start again tomorrow

[Zyf]

I was never dancing between wagons I support snake slot getting lynched whole heartedly

Still never said a wagon was bad!

I want everyone to vote scum so that's scummy of me

ok, so what do you think about the saru wagon

[Zyf]

you see Zyr any scumread you try to throw on me I will counter the fuck out of so please keep it coming

Pedit: Saru wagon is fine not a bad one but Snake is better.

ok, thank you for clarifying that.

[Zyf]

oh Saru's L-2

[Zyf]

Seems like my suspicion of Snake being n00b was right. That doesn't excuse his contradiction however. Since he hasn't provided a reaction to his wagon, I can't say at this point what I think about him. I guess I'll have to wait until he comes back or for his replacement before I can judge that.

Scum is feeling like Transcend and Xkfyu at this point. They got "personal" with each other a while back and then all of a sudden Xkfyu sheeps Transcend with no reasoning and they're all lovey-dovey now. Say what?

Zyf is so desperate for my lynch that it feels like over-eager town, but I've been burned before with that logic, so we'll see.

VOTE: Transcend
I can do Xkfyu as well.

@MOD: Can we get a VC? Pretty please and thanks.

Ugh I don't actually hate this, since that Transcend/Xkfyu battle pinged me as potentially contrived. Feels like there is lower-hanging fruit if you're going to try to start a counter-wagon.

UNVOTE:

>.>
fuck you guys
gdi get on the saru wagon

[Zyf]

wtf I thought anyone who got off the Saru wagon is scum Zyf or am I still the one and only scum that is defending Saru XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

look, I'm not going to argue with you anymore. That on its own is not enough to SR someone.
You specifically were scummy for the /way/ in which you got on and got off
don't put words in my mouth

[Zyf]

Seems like my suspicion of Snake being n00b was right. That doesn't excuse his contradiction however. Since he hasn't provided a reaction to his wagon, I can't say at this point what I think about him. I guess I'll have to wait until he comes back or for his replacement before I can judge that.

Scum is feeling like Transcend and Xkfyu at this point. They got "personal" with each other a while back and then all of a sudden Xkfyu sheeps Transcend with no reasoning and they're all lovey-dovey now. Say what?

Zyf is so desperate for my lynch that it feels like over-eager town, but I've been burned before with that logic, so we'll see.

VOTE: Transcend
I can do Xkfyu as well.

@MOD: Can we get a VC? Pretty please and thanks.

Ugh I don't actually hate this, since that Transcend/Xkfyu battle pinged me as potentially contrived. Feels like there is lower-hanging fruit if you're going to try to start a counter-wagon.

UNVOTE:

>.>
fuck you guys
gdi get on the saru wagon

What do you feel about Saru's comments?

I feel like this is the only one that has offered anything because all they did in their other posts was dig themselves a deeper hole.
As for this one...

Trolling people is fun, too much fun.

VOTE: Saru

I like it.

VOTE: Saru

Transcend was trolling
kinda like sonia is with me right now

[Zyf]

This is not true. I provided content explaining how I felt about the wagon on Snake before I "dug a hole" for myself. If you didn't agree with that, that's fine. But it seems like to me that you're only voting me at this point for my more trollish posts from before that annoyed you. Now that I've returned to real content, what do you think about Snake and my view on him?

If I flip town, who is scum for you?

if in some fucking way you flip town--which you aren't--I'd have to go back and read everything to reshuffle all my reads.

But you're not flipping town
so I'm not going to have to do that

[Zyf]

This is not true. I provided content explaining how I felt about the wagon on Snake before I "dug a hole" for myself. If you didn't agree with that, that's fine. But it seems like to me that you're only voting me at this point for my more trollish posts from before that annoyed you. Now that I've returned to real content, what do you think about Snake and my view on him?

If I flip town, who is scum for you?

wk-ing snake was precisely what got you to become scum

oh, I didn't respond to the first chunk.
1) I'm voting you for wk-ing snake who had 0 reason to be wk-ed because they fucked up real bad
2) I still think your view on him is absolute and utter bullshit even though you're probably right. And that is because you wk-ed them with TERRIBLE logic

[Zyf]

*skips around* ooooo now I want Saru to flip town just to see Zyr in pain!

To vote or not to vote....

Do it.
If you vote them then I can't accuse you regardless of their flip when tomorrow comes because my read on you is dependent upon saru's flip, and you wouldn't be dancing around the wagon

[Zyf]

So let me see if I get the giant Saru sr

Snake (the obv mafia) contradicted himself and shouldn't have been townread in any way but here comes Saru outting very weird logic on why snake is town but Saru know's snake is town and that's why he can come to that conclusion

Did I miss anything?

Correct
and they eventually manage to contradict themselves in the process

[Zyf]

And Saru your defense is you weren't town reading Snake just outting facts and where's this contradiction?

no they said that it wasn't obvious to them snake was lying even when it was obvious to them that snake contradicted themselves
except that makes no sense

[Zyf]

oh, I didn't respond to the first chunk.
1) I'm voting you for wk-ing snake who had 0 reason to be wk-ed because they fucked up real bad
2) I still think your view on him is absolute and utter bullshit even though you're probably right. And that is because you wk-ed them with TERRIBLE logic

But if he had 0 reason to be WK-ed, why would I do it and give away my position as his scum buddy? Think about what you're saying. Look at motivation, not actions. There's no reason for me to try to save Snake so early on when he can fend for himself. That just seems downright silly for scum to do.

I would also argue that WK-ing isn't the right term here. It suggests that I was defending Snake, which wasn't the case. I felt that Snake's wagon was iffy and that he could be slightly town for that, regardless of his contradiction, which n00b town is more prone to do anyways.

Essentially, I wasn't defending his contradiction, just taking a look at the speed wagon. Others mis-repped it or mis-understood it as me coming to his defense.

1) Why would you do it? So that if/when he flipped town people would be like "oh wow saru was right let's trust them"
2) You say the wagon was iffy because of its speed. Which considering them repeatedly contradicting themselves, then stopping abruptly and not posting anymore, is worse than I would expect by any newbtown. But if they really did, you'd be the one to know as scum.

[Zyf]

And Saru your defense is you weren't town reading Snake just outting facts and where's this contradiction?

no they said that it wasn't obvious to them snake was lying even when it was obvious to them that snake contradicted themselves
except that makes no sense

What? Are you joking? I clearly said in 329 that it did feel like Snake might have been lying.

"Clearly" lol what

Also

So if someone is caught in an obvious lie, you think that people shouldn't vote for them?

This seems like a loaded question. You'd have to prove to me that it was an "obvious" lie. From my understanding, he's being voted for

contradicting himself, not lying. These are two different things

. So what's the lie and what's the contradiction?

>>contradicting himself, not lying. These are two different things<<

All contradictions include one lie
you agree that he's contradicting himself, but say he "Might" be lying

seriously?

[Zyf]

I'm gonna play a game of OW I'm gonna prob park my vote on Saru is asking for a claim this early to soon?

VOTE: Saru

Changed my mind

thank you for seeing the light

Mimikyu can you please get the hell back on the scum wagon? K thanks

[Zyf]

I think Snake is still scum when Saru flips scum also btw.

duly noted

[Zyf]

Hello edith of V's

[Zyf]

Oof I'm not going to be able to keep up with this pace. I'll sheep my way through D1. Who should I sheep... besides not transcend?

vote saru
thanks

[Zyf]

what's wrong with me
oh right sonia is a person who trolls and whines when other people play the game
roight

[Zyf]

How the heck did i miss 20 pages in a day, this is pretty ridiculous. I'm not gonna lie, I just skimmed. I don't really like vulture avatar guy's posts form what i've seen, I forgot his name. I'm gonna vote him when I look for it lol.

It me

[Zyf]

Gerry Oat:

Do me a solid and vote conf scum Saru

Isn't he at L2? Also, the bw on him was pretty quick. idk about that

What's with u ppl thinking high speed D1 wagons must be bad wagons

[Zyf]

VOTE: tiershift has a really bad reason for voting me. He has to be mafia trying to push an 'easy lynch' day 1

Lol for the little they did so early into D1, right now we have much bigger fish to fry

[Zyf]

u can read the game instead

I've been reading the game
And i don't see the hardclaim
>.>

[Zyf]

yea but you're voting saru so it's irrel

It shouldn't take you more than like 60sec
Do it for future reference

[Zyf]

HERE WE GOOOO


Lowell
eagerSnake Vedith


{Zyf}
{xSoniaNeverMindx, Lowell}
{algebra, gerryoat, BlackStar, Xkyfu}
{TierShift}
{texcat, Mimikyu}
{Vedith}
{Saru}

"HERE WE GOOOOO"
wut

anyway
Would bet the game they're town: zyf/me
Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu
Town: Mimikyu, Transcend
Probtown: BlackStar, gerryoat
Null: texcat
Scummy: TierShift, algebra
Flip-dependent scum/special null tier: Sonia, Vedith
BURN THE WITCH: saru

[Zyf]

Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu

How'd Lowell sneak into that "Very confident they're town" pile?

because i just, don't see them as scum
kinda like how you townread gyrlander to no end even tho they played SO BAD that i can't even

[Zyf]

I now know Transcend is either A) Mafia with Zyr or B) Awful at reading this game and should never play again already stated why Zyr is scum XDDDD

no you didn't, not really no

[Zyf]

1) Why would you do it? So that if/when he flipped town people would be like "oh wow saru was right let's trust them"

Wait, so apparently I'm scum with Snake(which you're 100% sure about) but I'm also scum who is WK-ing a town Snake. What? Guess you contradicted yourself and now you're confirmed scum for that.

Anyways, I'm just going to claim right now because fuck it. Alas, I am but a VT. I hate being VT anyways so whatevs.

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

Mimi is probably town. Gerry is also probably town. inb4 "oh those are Saru's scum partners."

If Zyf is town, then he's just a bad player who thinks questioning speed wagons is scummy. Sad times. He'll learn.

Good luck and cy@ in the dead thread!

no, I thought they were scum until you came along and started wk-ing them. I mean they could be town but I find it hard to believe you're also town because the play they made was awfully scummy. And if someone was defending them then they are probably town that no one's going to trust.
Questioning speed wagons isn't necessarily scummy. At the same time, speed wagons aren't always on a town player.
Therefore, assuming the speed wagon must be a scum-led wagon isn't necessarily right.

to be honest I'm just gonna wait for vedith

[Zyf]

Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu

How'd Lowell sneak into that "Very confident they're town" pile?

because i just, don't see them as scum
kinda like how you townread gyrlander to no end even tho they played SO BAD that i can't even

Lol fair point.

At least I can now see you as town.

UNVOTE: Lowell

VOTE: Vedith

What are you voting Vedith for?

[Zyf]

Very confident they're town: Lowell, Xkyfu

How'd Lowell sneak into that "Very confident they're town" pile?

because i just, don't see them as scum
kinda like how you townread gyrlander to no end even tho they played SO BAD that i can't even

Lol fair point.

At least I can now see you as town.

UNVOTE: Lowell

VOTE: Vedith

What are you voting Vedith for?

Because he replaced eagerSnake.

shouldn't you at least wait for the catch-up post?

[Zyf]

shouldn't you at least wait for the catch-up post?

Is the slot any less scummy because of the replacement?

no
but it doesn't get any scummier either
so you're saying you agree with saru enough to no longer vote them but disagree and still think what snake did is by a scum's hand
so basically at least one of saru and snake are scum to you

[Zyf]

Questioning speed wagons isn't necessarily scummy. At the same time, speed wagons aren't always on a town player.
Therefore, assuming the speed wagon must be a scum-led wagon isn't necessarily right.

Yes, I agree with this. I said so in 287.

I never said you didn't
I'm saying that the fact that you said I didn't is a misrep

[Zyf]

In post 530, Zyf wrote:
In post 524, gerryoat wrote:
In post 522, Transcend wrote:
Gerry Oat:

Do me a solid and vote conf scum Saru


Isn't he at L2? Also, the bw on him was pretty quick. idk about that

What's with u ppl thinking high speed D1 wagons must be bad wagons

Eh, they usually are.

Define the term "bad wagon," because I don't think there is any such thing as a bad wagon.

In post 542, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 541, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
I now know Transcend is either A) Mafia with Zyr or B) Awful at reading this game and should never play again already stated why Zyr is scum XDDDD

Honestly, all 4 of us are probably town and making a bunch of noise, making it easy for scum to stay under the radar.

This pings, so I'm quoting it for later.

Nothing much better for now unfortunately.

Why wait?

Instead of just throwing some shade, let's talk about it now.

bad wagon=wagon on town

[Zyf]

A wagon on town is a bad wagon.

Yeah, that's what I figured you meant.

What if a townies lynch directly resulted in catching one scum? Would you still consider that to be a "bad wagon?"

Which is why i'd rather not lynch outside of vedith/saru

[Zyf]

can we please let vedith at least play before we decided to lynch them

[Zyf]

And scum defending partner is a check k lets go boys we have at least 2 mafia already.

lol wut
no i'm saying lynching someone before they do anything/claim is bad play lol

[Zyf]

also >continues calling me scum with no reasons
lol

[Zyf]

no i'm saying lynching someone before they claim is bad play lol

K guys lets murder saru
fuck claiming

Well then.

ever heard of trolling
or hyperbole
or confidence

[Zyf]

what a CONTRADICTION

too bad he's probably obvious town still lol

So he's obvious town with that contradiction. So what's Vedith then for their contradiction? lol

no Vedith didn't contradict themselves
snek did

what's vedith? Vedith is flip dependent scum
and/or flippable if I can't get you killed

[Zyf]

no i'm saying lynching someone before they claim is bad play lol

K guys lets murder saru
fuck claiming

Well then.

ever heard of trolling
or hyperbole
or confidence

Ever heard of excuses
or bullshit
or lies

yes
but they don't always apply

also even if it wasn't exaggeration
i could choose to make a bad play anyway because I was confident in your being scum

tbh we're not going to get anywhere you're just making noise if you're town

[Zyf]

So then can't I make the excuse that I made a bad play by defending Snake/Vedit cause I was confident in them being n00b town? Seriously, how many more excuses Zyf.

no because they aren't newb town

[Zyf]

These interactions are S/T and Zyr is the scum not lynching Saru bye

lol k
"Zyr is scum because scum is zyr"

[Zyf]

I'm calling it now it's Transcend Zyr and Ved

Is there a type of kudo I c n get for all 3 scum being obv cause this is borderline easy

u wanna bet m8
if i flip town you put it in your siggy
if you flip town i put it in my siggy

[Zyf]

What do you like about it? You haven't explained your town read

It's funny that it took this long for someone to ask this.

It's this:

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

If Saru is scum, he knows that any "scum reads" he claims will obviously be ignored. So, this is absolutely pointless for scum to post, and it's more effort than scum would make.

I've seen scum make posts like that in almost every game because then people start to town read them for the same reason that you did. It's NAI

Yeah yeah yeah. He's town, get over it and find another lynch.

no
you doing this makes me extra confident saru is scum

[Zyf]

"Saru is obv scum he contradicted himself!"

"Zyf contradicted himself but he's obv town so it's k lol"~Transcend

?????????????

"Saru is obv scum for wk-ing someone who fucked up real bad!"

[Zyf]

I'm calling it now it's Transcend Zyr and Ved

Is there a type of kudo I c n get for all 3 scum being obv cause this is borderline easy

Yeah, I could see that.

lol k you try that shit

[Zyf]

"Saru is obv scum he contradicted himself!"

"Zyf contradicted himself but he's obv town so it's k lol"~Transcend

?????????????

"Saru is obv scum for wk-ing someone who fucked up real bad!"

Zyf you're reaching hard here buddy. Even after you thought I was scum, you thought that Snake was scum alongside me. By that very logic, I couldn't be WK-ing Snake. How many more times are you going to change your story?

I don't know if it came across like that, but what I was saying is that 1 of you is scum
and most likely EXACTLY one of you

[Zyf]

Y'know I have SERIOUS problems with tiershift and algebra not being part of this
as people who are below my null level >.>
why are so many of you guys hard to sort out as town

[Zyf]

lol k 6 posts to Pedit

[Zyf]

Sonia is definitely town

Hello I is n00b I just learned how to post on this site I have never won take it easy on me please as I don't know how this game works I am anime weeb desu desu

VOTE: Transcend fking liar

MODS how much may I swear.

i feel like scum would only say this because they don't want to be attacked, so they can just lurk around.

Yeah I curse a lot because I FUCKING WANT TO LETS GO WOO...i'm bored.

then this post completely contradicts that, so that indicates that sonia is town

what about this guy
who played terribly then disappeared >.>

[Zyf]

I just find it sad Zyf felt the need to try and grudge lynch me coming in this game as mafia like P L E A S E

don't fucking put words in my mouth
this has nothing to do with 1721
this has everything to do with your association to saru

[Zyf]

If we could just get a votecount because i don't even know what goes where anymore because people are throwing around accusations/scumreads in a very sporadic form...
SARU-Where do you reads stand? All of them. Not just a few.
SONIA-Articulate why Transcend/Me are scum with more than just "because I say so." You're just being noisy at this point.
Xkfyu--Where do all of your reads stand right now? If you could give me some reasons too I might be more willing to get on the Vedith train in the nearer future.

[Zyf]

I just find it sad Zyf felt the need to try and grudge lynch me coming in this game as mafia like P L E A S E

don't fucking put words in my mouth
this has nothing to do with 1721
this has everything to do with your association to saru

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA CALL IT NOW EH? EHHHH? Okay I see we can go with that but EVERYONE will know the truth

Please tell me you aren't just in a bad mood and therefore not thinking straight lol

[Zyf]

Xkfyu--Where do all of your reads stand right now? If you could give me some reasons too I might be more willing to get on the Vedith train in the nearer future.

because transcend is kinda right you've been pointing fingers to like 6 different places which is 2x the number of ppl on the scumteam

[Zyf]

Transcend has you as obv town omg never lynch when you've done NOTHING to get a town read and then when you DIRECTLY CONTRADICT YOURSELF he's like "still obv town lol" you guys are also the 2 main people on the Saru wagon trying to get it lynched getting attention off snakes f up

so do you actually support the saru wagon or nah
because you're being inconsistent

[Zyf]

Tell me how i'm being inconsistent

And I don't.

you said earlier your second choice for wagon was saru
but now you don't
you've changed your mind at least 4 times

[Zyf]

Lynch: mimi, saru, Vedith, tex, tier, xkfyu

Don't lynch: sonia, gerry, Zyf, Transcend, Lowell, algebra, black

>mimi should be lynched
>algebra is fine

what

[Zyf]

She's emotional rn and nothing she says will make sense.

fuck ow fuck oww fuck
my hand fell asleep

duly noted

i guess i trust you to know her

[Zyf]

HOW THE FUCK DO NONE OF YOU SEE HOW OBV ZYF IS BEING LIKE EVEN IF HE CLAIMED MAFIA I DON'T THINK YOU'D LYNCH HIM

maybe if you explained it

yeah she's getting emotional
she's even spelling my name correctly

[Zyf]

Tell me how i'm being inconsistent

And I don't.

you said earlier your second choice for wagon was saru
but now you don't
you've changed your mind at least 4 times

Hello welcome to the game of mafia where people change there minds all the time! I already said why I changed my mind and it's not like it w as random PLEASE TRY AGAIN THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEADLOCKS READS ARE SUBBONRN ASSHOLES OR MAFIA

changing your mind while little to nothing new happens is, well, scummy
also
*their
*was
*deadlocked
*stubborn

[Zyf]

btw i don't really see where you explained the change on the saru read

[Zyf]

@Sonia & Xfkyu

Can you quote some stuff to back up the possibility of a transcend, zyf, ved scum team?

Nah, not really. Transcend and zyf are probably just 2 town players with strong town reads on each other double teaming Saru. Vedith just happens to be the direct beneficiary of that double team.

we need to not rope before tonight
just in case the direct beneficiary is scum

[Zyf]

Yeah wtf why are you evading saru rope

have you considered waiting for vedith
dude we have a lot of time
it's been TWO DAYS

[Zyf]

Fine sonia, I'll give you botd

Take this time to compile a list of scummy zyf posts that you think will make me think you genuinely scum read him and aren't just grudging him.

wait, what?

grudging me for what? losing?

[Zyf]

Yeah Vedith only has 2 posts lol. Not coin flipping his lynch lol.

What do you mean by coin flipping?

[Zyf]

Can I lynch Transcend today lynch myself tomorrow and then everyone sheeps me and make zyfucker eat rope?

>continues not giving any reasons for anyone to believe anything

[Zyf]

Yeah Vedith only has 2 posts lol. Not coin flipping his lynch lol.

It's not a coin flip. Vedith replacing in doesn't nullify everything that snake did.

"everything"
yeah that was poor play
but still
I want vedith to talk to me about saru.
It's an interesting interaction when flipped the other way around

[Zyf]

Can I lynch Transcend today lynch myself tomorrow and then everyone sheeps me and make zyfucker eat rope?

oh by the way
even if you flip town that isn't in any way indicative of me being scum
so if you ARE town, could you not flip yourself because that is ALWAYS a poor play as town?

[Zyf]

ZYF I HAVE GAVE AT LEAST FUCKING 2O REASONS AND YOU CAN'T EVEN ANSWER ONE ARE YOU FUCKING SRS

YOU CAN'T GIVE 1 REASON I'M SCUM ONE ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

AND YET YOU'RE PARTNER IS UP YOUR ASS SAVING YOU FROM ROPE

where are these reasons you speak of
oh right
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"
"Zyr is scum"

You are scummy for drawing attention away from saru, creating noise, and pointing fingers to random people with no evidence.
You are also scummy for repeatedly misrepping me while getting nothing done

[Zyf]

Most of us know that there are very, very few circumstances when self-voting and/or hammering (as Town) is actually helpful to the town. This type of behavior should be kept out of Newbie games, because it does not teach the new players how to play the game correctly. You are not playing to fulfill your win condition as a Town player when you self-vote or self-hammer - a better example to set would be to show the new players how to talk your way out of that situation. Failing that, let the other players lynch you, as you're supposed to do. Remember that voting is the primary method we use to judge people's alignments, and by taking away someone's vote by self-voting, you are denying the town needed information.
Of course, if you're scum then feel free to self-vote/self-hammer. Self-voting/self-hammering as scum denies the town information and IS playing toward your win condition by confusing the remaining townies and allowing your partner to hide in the confusion.

It seems sonia isn't among the majority