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Post Post #812 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:58 am

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Hi all.

First things first.
UNVOTE:
@accountant l seriously didn't know you were in the game before I asked GiF to play. I just remembered him from my earlier mafia career.
So. There's that. Let's keep things to this game. K? :good:

I iso'd my former slot's posts and I say disregard any soft claims you may think you see. I'm really a ....


I'll be back later.
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Post Post #813 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:59 am

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Hi all.

First things first.
UNVOTE:
@accountant l seriously didn't know you were in the game before I asked GiF to play. I just remembered him from my earlier mafia career.
So. There's that. Let's keep things to this game. K? :good:

I iso'd my former slot's posts and I say disregard any soft claims you may think you see. I'm really a ....


I'll be back later.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:08 am

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Damn phone posting. I hate it already.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:35 am

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In post 804, Accountant wrote:
You were likely hoping to get away with not having to explain them, and you probably felt confident you could give some decent reasons if asked.
Scum!DDD knows he's going to get pressed on his reads. Why would he not have reasons prepared? Furthermore, why would he feel confident he could give decent reasons unless he actually could?
Exactly. Are you saying DDD picked someone to scum read before coming up with reasons because he was confident?

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Post Post #817 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:57 am

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Hi gm no deathtunnels sounds nice. :lol:

What do you think of accountant? I think if he's scum hell be easily caught. Just my opinion.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:58 am

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Ebwop nicer
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Post Post #819 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:08 pm

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I be but a humble pirate. Some body explain their scum read simply. In small words
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Post Post #820 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:03 pm

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In post 35, Astyanaxx wrote:
copper223 wrote: Don't knock yourself down, your opinions are as important as everyone else's.

Ofc if you happened to draw scum I guess it sucks to be you and I'm coming for ya. Don't knock yourself down, your opinions are as important as everyone else's. Ofc if you happened to draw scum I guess it sucks to be you and I'm coming for ya.
If i was scum i'm pretty sure i would be unmasked after less than 48 hours. I'm a terrible liar, but you only have my word for it. Actually, it's also a very different timing and thought process than in a live one, so maybe i'm better at it. Or worse, we'll see. Anyway for now i don't have much to share with you guys ; i've skimmed through some of the other games and i'm impressed with how little people seem to work with when trying to figure out who's scum. I don't feel that in this domain i have a lot to share but i'll try to be as active as possible to not be a deadweight in the debates.
Copper sounds pretty scummy. If you ask me.
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Post Post #821 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:11 pm

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I remember reading somewhere about scum getting Day talk. Is this a thing!?

omg town tell. Just an answer would be nice.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:09 pm

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By all means don't wait on me.

I always call a scum team early. (In Rome games) I think its copper and dragon.

Time will tell.
It just seems way too easy.

Pedit @ ironstove why?
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Post Post #830 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:12 pm

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@ Guilty, soon to be shortened to GL. Why?
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Post Post #831 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:41 pm

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@ ironstone I think your compass malfunctioned. Its not reading right.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:56 pm

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No, it was the accountant push. I'd like a Reader's Digest version would be good there.
Do you think im off on my scum reads? I think I suspect copper the most right now.
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Post Post #839 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:40 pm

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@Dragon my accusations were made with very little reading done. So don't be too offended. But yeah, it might be something like that.

I haven't read the DDD spat, so for now it's only hearsay to me. I'll ISO him tomorrow. There's others I need to look into, but replacements bleh.
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Post Post #841 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:47 pm

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I think that if you're scum, the cog-dis will become obvious.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:11 pm

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I still think you'd out yourself if you were faking it for long enough.

Do you have a scum game I can glance at?
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Post Post #851 (isolation #16) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:18 am

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Wow, a lot of peeps are coming back from long breaks. I guess I picked a good time to come back myself.

My initial read of DDD is Town. I still don't get the copper/Dragon tag team. Just seems "too scummy to be scum." I'm almost sure one of them is scum. The argument is just so convoluted. It doesn't feel natural (to me).

Let me make sure I have this right. Copper/Dragon are Town reading each othrr, right? @ both Who do you think looks scummiest in regards to their DDD interactions? Who would you compromise lynch?
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Post Post #852 (isolation #17) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:33 am

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Fluff? I have s minor complaint (request). While ISOing I'm finding a lot of quote strips that have no reference as to who you are talking sbout. At the time it may be obvious, but going back over ISOs, its not always obvious. Quoting the first post (or part thereof), then quote stripping the rest (pertaining to the person) would help cut down on confusion. TIA
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Post Post #854 (isolation #18) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:48 am

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In post 853, Accountant wrote:No such thing
I know.

If someone is making arguments that don't seem to make sense, it's usually a good thing to push on it awhile.
Like if Dragon's really Town, she should be trying to show (me) why/how I'm so screwed up on my read on them, not just say yeah I knew you were gonna vote me(paraphrased).
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Post Post #857 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:41 am

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@Dragon Apologies. I'll try to keep it straight.

You two are my biggest scum reads, yes. I'm not certain though. You were just picked first. Copper's attacking GM's post throwing shade when there were so many question marks sounded disingenuous. The buddying of you, and other things make me more inclined to believe he's scum. I'm on a phone so quote stripping is a pain, but hopefully I'll have the case I believe up today so it can be analyzed. I know I kill Townies sometimes so I know i can be wrong. But sometimes I get it oh so right.
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Post Post #862 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:41 am

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In post 853, Accountant wrote:Why do you feel that convoluted natural arguments are difficult/impossible? What about the argument between DDD and copper?
I'm not quite as black and white on things as you are. I don't believe they're impossible. I believe they can be staged. I'm worried that might be happening. What's your opinion of how Dragon jumps in to agree with copper so often, or at least was where I've been reading?

I don't want to read the parts before all the replacements, unless someone references it in a post and it looks like it might be important, or in ISOs.

Pedit "When did copper attack GM's post? I don't remember where that was. Awaiting your case so I can reply properly." Phone posting r hard. Sorry, about the ??????? Thing.

@Dragon I'm still leaning copper over you. What's the vote count?
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Post Post #864 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:10 am

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@Dragon what I was asking about starts off @post 75 and goes on over several of copper's posts in his ISO before he says it wasn't that important.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:41 am

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@copper what was going on in the post I reference in 820?
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Post Post #867 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:00 am

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Your wording seems to have been lost in translation (of the post referenced) It still looks weird.
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Post Post #871 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:46 am

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@ copper its Day 1 and I'm late to the dance. My case is only going to get so good. Convince us that me or someone else is scum? What I'm trying to say, if you think I'm barking up the wrong tree (reading you as scum), then help consolidate votes where you think should go.

You and Dragon are the main people responding to me. What do you think of that?
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Post Post #872 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:14 am

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One thing to remember, when I jumped in and started looking over the thread, these things were being discussed. And what I pointed out then looked like slips to me. So I investigated. What strikes me as strange, no one else is chiming in. Except accountant, who I think is Town. I get all WIFOMy.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:33 am

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Conf-bias, honestly
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Post Post #875 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:54 am

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@accountant I haven't looked at your scum games yet, but I'm really interested to see how you did.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:41 pm

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In post 712, copper223 wrote::wink: I'd rather kick your ass today, I don't trust the rest of the stooges enough to forfeit a possible future mis-lynch and to follow through when I flip.
Accountant's being pretty convincing.

@ all what say you?
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Post Post #879 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:00 pm

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Scum reading copper.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:11 pm

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To make things Clearer, I was on that page when Deb yelled to get downstairs and eat. I put it in.as a place marker
Kinda. I started in accountant's ISO, then jumped to the thread. Decided I felt acountant was probably right. I'm gonna havta sheep. :oops:

VOTE: coppet
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Post Post #882 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:19 pm

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VOTE: copper

Err..... I'm using a really small phone. And it's the first and I hope the last time too.

Pedit what do you mean?
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Post Post #884 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:25 pm

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Post Post #916 (isolation #33) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:50 am

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In post 890, copper223 wrote:I have never been lynched as town, I have never reached lylo as town (other than as a tree-stump) and in a newbie I have never survived past D2 as town, this is how bad some of you are, read the flip and weep at your ineptitude.
I have, I have, and I have. It's all in my meta.
If your Town, I will. Then move on.
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Post Post #917 (isolation #34) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:02 am

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In post 905, ironstove wrote:The jon slot might be scum. People town reading that slot don't make sense.

I think trying to figure out alignments this early in the game is dumb, but I'll go out on a limb and say if DDD is scum, his partner is jon.
Your compass still didn't give you what you want. If you're Town. Why DDD?

I'll get to your other questions soonish.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #35) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:28 am

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In post 889, ironstove wrote:Jon, what are your reads of myself and guiltylion? Are we null or...?

Your biggest scum read is copper, but why did you say you're sheeping Accountant? Why do you have to say it's sheeping if you're voting for your biggest scum read?

Accountant is your strongest town read? Is that right?
Tbh I've kind of ignored you. I've carried out crusades on trolls just to find them Town almost every time.

You can say I'm sheeping gm now. I've finished her and Ddds ISOs and for now, they are my Town reads ATM.

I gotta look better at Jae, but that's it.

I don't know what I going to do tomorrow. I'll worry a out it then. Im learning respect for accountant's game, he looks like he can be pretty deceitful. Still thinking Town. GL Town.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:43 am

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I said it to a human being.

Is sorry I killed you, Hope we play
Again soon better?
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Post Post #924 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:08 am

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@copper appeal to intimidation? Sorry you take the game so seriously. If you feel its best we don't play again, fine.
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Post Post #925 (isolation #38) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:16 am

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In post 921, copper223 wrote:I do not hope to play with you anytime soon unless you flip scum and for the record I still don't think that's the case
So you're saying I'm playing a good scum game? Do you mean I just look like I'm scum hunting? What big revelations(besides you being town) would I have found as Town!
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Post Post #933 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:02 am

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@copper I've read a lot of your posts in every one else's posts. But you right about me not reading you in ISO. I still think of us nine, you are most likely to be scum. I'll try to get a wall put up to show why I think that but phone. Ugh.

Who knows, maybe I'll cave and unvote you. :wink:
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Post Post #934 (isolation #40) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:08 am

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Actually I think that is a waste of time. I think you're scum because of your attacks. They're weak, or meant to intimidate. I think you're scum.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #41) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:41 am

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Look, when reading ISOs I jump from it to the thread when I come across something I question. So its not like I haven't seen anything you've said. Putting out your suspicions (like some recent posts do) will help me better. I've read a lot of what you posted. I could be wrong. I don't think I am.

I won't convince you you're scum so I think we're done.
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Post Post #944 (isolation #42) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:53 am

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NGR @ gm about posts, yours are what I was asking for even before I asked. When in I iso I always knew who you were talking to. As long as the first quoted post indicates who you're addressing. I'll assume all other strips still refer back to the same person.
I think it'd profit everyone (especially replacements) if we all did it.

Carry on.
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Post Post #945 (isolation #43) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:50 pm

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To anyone Town reading copper, could you point me to the conversation or post that you think makes him Town?
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Post Post #949 (isolation #44) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:28 pm

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@ Jae have you played with copper before?

I know if I was scum, I wouldn't go quietly into the Night. I won't as Town either.
Do you think he's Town that's right about something. Or just Town? Who's looking worse out of those accusing him?

Pedit me too
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Post Post #972 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:36 pm

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In post 236, JaeReed wrote:I wouldn't put it past copper to buddy the fuck outta me tbh. Like him saying that I wouldn't call the scumteam on pg 5 is bs as you know because iraon did the same shit and got townread for it. HOWEVER the person who pointed that out I think was town weren't they? idunno I'm not looking that up atm but that's my thought process there. Basically, what he pointed out was not a towntell b
who pointed out what? How do you know they were Town, and how are you going to go back and check?
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Post Post #973 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:55 pm

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In post 254, copper223 wrote:
In post 251, Accountant wrote:VOTE: copper
This vote has a higher probability than average of coming from scum, if I am screwing up by misreading JaeReed (in which case I deserve the heat) this is where I'd look for their partner.
How does you misreading Jae make accountant more likely scum?
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Post Post #976 (isolation #47) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:53 pm

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In post 282, copper223 wrote:
In post 281, Accountant wrote:P -> Q by itself isn't an obvious statement at all so you need to justify that first.
Not for the point I made above I don't.

Why is town less likely to be opportunistic compared to scum?

Because scum have to mislynch a townie so they are on the look-out for opportunities to do so, sometimes they take them and sometimes they don't depending on many factors but on average it's more likely to reflect their behavior compared to a townie that has very little incentive (some cases exist where they are also at risk or we are getting close to the deadline and they believe that a lynch is better than none but they are mostly irrelevant at the moment) and will mostly only do so by happenstance.

Speaking of justification, you have as yet not told me what good arguments there are that you are aware of for my wagon, nor why scumGL would more likely side with Jae in his opening post (see ), according to you ignoring requests to clarify reads are an indicator that you are scum coasting.
Mushroom food. What does this even mean?
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #48) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:36 am

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@ copper I'm sure you meant that as an inb4, but it's the incredible amount of things said like this keeps me from doubting my read.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #49) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:05 am

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I solemnly promise not to claim, even on pain of death.there's honesty in death.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #50) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:22 am

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@copper can you point me to a game where you're proud of the reads you pushed. Were you successful convincing others?
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #51) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:10 am

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Things make Dragon more likely Town, but I want to say that as scum in the first game I played with GiF I didn't lynch uberninja when I had the chance. I NKed him.
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #52) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:26 am

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If cop has an innocent, for now my suggestion would be to Town read that slot. Why come out now?
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:29 am

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In post 1123, ironstove wrote:Yea forget this I'm lynching DDD and I don't care what you say GL

Make your case. I believe Jae believes his read (but I think he's wrong). I don't know your case on anyone really. You just seem to go with the flow.

@ anyone scum reading DDD, please make a concise case. I think he's Town.
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:04 am

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In post 1128, Dragonfire wrote:Why don't you give us some reasons why he's town? If you want reasons why he's scum, read most of what copper and I said yesterday with regards to him, then ask yourself why there would be two L-1 wagons on D1, both on townies, and nobody switching for ages until GL delivered the hammer.
Your agreeing with copper's case on DDD was what made me initially scum read your slot. It looked (s) like scum agreeing with a bad case on nothing. Even after re-rereading, I don't find the case credible.

One BIG reason not to move votes is because both wagons were Town.

Pedit I'm implying I think DDD is Town. Is there a difference?
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:57 am

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Sheeping :lol: DDD's GL read.

@accountant who u b sheeping?

Ironstove might be a good vote.
VOTE: ironstove

I'm sure everyone who's played more than a few games has seen this kind of play lynched as Town, but it can easily be scum cover too.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #56) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:51 am

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(my) Town bloc: DDD,accountant and GM. Applications being accepted.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #57) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:57 am

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@ gm can you describe why iron is Town? Tia
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #58) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:06 am

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Of your scum reads, I'd vote Dragon.

One thing that is(was) holding back my enthusiasm for a Dragon push was the fact that I read the last hand I played with him last Night. He was scum in it and replaced out right after I accused him of being scum. Gamblers' fallacy and all that, but I still think he's scum.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #59) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:19 am

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@ gm one thing that concerns me is accountant's seeming change in tone from Yesterday. What do you think? You have experience with him, right?
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #60) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:31 am

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I just realized gm is scum reading two slots Town reading her! Lol
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #61) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:20 pm

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In post 1156, RachMarie wrote:Back up mod reporting for duty

will do a VC shortly
Hi Rach!!! :]

@ gm yeah, that's why. I never ISOed the slot before iron. I'll do that now.
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Post Post #1161 (isolation #62) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:18 pm

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@ gm I think you're right. I think Stapler was frustrated Town.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dragon
Gotta make Rach earn her keep. :lol:
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #63) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:03 pm

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Post Post #1165 (isolation #64) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:10 pm

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My apologies. I really thought you were replaced by DP. It was wake's slot. Sorry again :oops:
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #65) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:49 pm

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@ iron what do his think of GM's telling me 'nah' when I voted you?
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #66) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:55 pm

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In post 1133, Dragonfire wrote:Also, you never said why you think he's town.
No one, not even copper, has shown me a credible case on DDD. That in itself doesn't make him Town, but (i) still disagree with the whole case on him, from beginning to end. Jae says he wants to follow copper's plan, but doesn't seem too concerned with if anyone else followed his plan.

I'm assuming no one has a guilty on him, so if we have a cop that did follow copper's plan that's even more evidence I'm right. If cop has an innocent,by all means stay quiet.
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #67) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:23 am

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In post 1269, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
In post 1259, ironstove wrote:Examine her mule-like behavior on D1 refusing to lynch her partner DDD on D1, then switching over to copper, saying I will lynch only 'copper' indicating copper is her strongest scum read, now she is trying her hardest to lynch another
town
Hey dargon.
In post 1267, goodmorning wrote:There's something specific that nearly confirms DDD is Town, but I can't tell you what it is because telling you would be much worse play than not telling you.

That's it. I'm not saying any more about it.
It was me linking to the George Thorogood song wasn't it? Who could scum read me after that.
:lol:
Still think copper is wrong about DDD, gm's Town, and I'm trusting gm(and my gut read of iron. Not so sure on accountant anymore.

Still like Dragon for scum.

@ Jae suppose DDD flipped Town. Where would you start your scum hunting Tomorrow? What do you think scum's distribution on the wagons is?
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #68) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:00 am

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@Dragon looking at the VC, you've been on DDD since your first vote, but you took several VCs to vote. What makes you SO sure he's scum, in your own words. If you aren't scum, i absolutely don't see the case so please make it simple.

Reading back over almost convinces me you're Town. If I move my vote, it won't be to DDD though.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #69) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:57 am

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NGR sorry for my absence. I've been fighting with American healthcare for a while, and on top of that, the DEA wants to turn me and thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens into felons. That's added even more stress in real life. On top of that, typing and especially researching is a lot harder thank I thought it would be on a phone. I can't afford to get my laptop looked at atm this is all ngr but it's the truth. I'll not play anymore games until I get something better to play on.

I think GM is still Town, or she's got me completely fooled. We've played a few times togdther, and I'm pretty solid there.

DDD, if he flips scum, in my eyes, I'll be suprised. I'm the opposite of Jae. I don't get the "case" on DDD.

Speaking of which, @ GM in most areas, we see things similarly
I can see Jae as scum, especially if DDD flipped Town. Would I be wise if I just put him in Town that I don't exactly agree with?
I think scum are accountant and Dragon.
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #70) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:50 am

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@ iron how sure do you feel about your GL vote?
Pedit :lol:
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #71) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:14 am

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It's a red flag day here in CO. They take it seriously too.
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Post Post #1335 (isolation #72) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:11 am

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In post 1333, Dragonfire wrote:Can you please explain why you said you were almost convinced I was town three pages back, but didn't unvote me, but now you're saying I'm scum, again with literally zero reasoning? That's really inconsistent
Not really. I don't know you're scum. I consider (or at least I try) every post. But after everything is said and done, the argument is about DDD's entrance and failing a reaction test. At the time(i read it) I felt like DDD was being set up. That's why I asked GM about Jae. He would be my only other suspect ATM, but of the three of you he seems the most sincere in his looking for scum.

Can you tell me what (if anything) we agree on?
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #73) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:06 pm

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In post 1333, Dragonfire wrote:This [bolded] is a misrep. What I said with regards to iron was that I don't finely read his posts looking for scumtells because I don't think he's scum.
Can you point me go to the original post? I'm going to ISO you now, but I'll pop back in often. Point me to anything specific if you want to discuss it.
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #74) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:28 pm

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@Jae you've never tunneled, and been wrong before? At this time, saying there was no NK proves you're right is a stretch.
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #75) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:08 am

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In post 1341, ironstove wrote:GM, Jon, GL: If Dragon flips town, who are you going to try to lynch on the last day that is left?
UNVOTE:

@ iron what's your opinion of accountant, especially considering his recent spat of posting? I'm unclear why he does anything he does.

@ accountant when you sheep, you actually just follow along blindly, huh ? Do you have any original thoughts about why Dragon or DDD might be scum?
As late in the Day as it is, I may not be able to sway enough votes your way, but I'm becoming convinced you're the better vote over Dragon.


@ Dragon Is there any chance you'd consider voting there Today?

Is anyone Town reading him enough to show me how his erratic play comes from Town. He keeps abdicating the responsibility for his vote, which makes it ever so easy to say "not my fault" after a Town flip.
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #76) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:19 am

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@ Jae what do you think of GL now? I have him as Town, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on him.
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #77) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:02 am

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I do see how you could call them misreps, but consider, I feel like he's been misrepped too. If you're Town and he's scum, why do you think he picked you to push?

Do you feel Town always win arguments?
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #78) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:15 am

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@ Dragon Do you think gm's rant yesterday was scum AtE?
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #79) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:45 am

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Let's put it another way, do you think scum GM would be willing to get jumped on in every game she ICs for trying to AtE in this one game?
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #80) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:12 am

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Let's consider a hypothetical situation. All three main wagons are Town, considering copper's flip. Who would most likely be scum?
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #81) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:19 am

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Why would accountant "climb on gm's shoulders" at the beginning of the Day? As far as I'm concerned she's not even a consideration Today.

He listed Jae first in his last list, so he's off the list Today too.

I'm half tempted to "climb on gm's shoulders"! :?
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #82) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:29 am

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This is all gut, iron's style is almost impossible to read, but, at times, he comes across as Town convinced he's found something scummie. I think he's Town too. That pretty much narrows down the list of slots I'll vote Today.
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #83) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:17 am

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Looking back over the vote counts, GL and DDD's votes stayed on seperate slots until the lynch was imminent Day 1. It looks like the same thing was happening Yesterday.

@ GL, you can start pushing the case on me all you want. I'm convinced it is you and DDD.

Pedit me either, I'd rather see your flip Today, tbh.

@ everyone else I don't care which goes first. I think we found the scum team.
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #84) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:32 am

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So, if DDD flips scum, you going to start pushing me as his partner? If you flip scum, will I then become your partner?
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #85) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:33 am

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Reboot if he(DDD)
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #86) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:35 am

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Sigh, I hope you get the gist. I'm betting both of you flip scum.
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #87) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:51 am

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In post 1421, GuiltyLion wrote:lol, that's absolutely a scumpost

VOTE: jon_h61
Omgus. Make a case, I'll still be Town. I'm interested to see your scum play anyway.
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #88) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:39 am

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In post 1433, JaeReed wrote:So yeah, best thing town can do right now is choose between myself or DDD, regardless of reads on anyone else
VOTE: DDD
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:08 am

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Personally, I don't care which of GL or I get lynched Today, as long as he's lynched Tomorrow. GL's Lynch will be game over.
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