Newbie 1735 - Banana Split (Game Over!)


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Post Post #34 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:04 am

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Hey guys, I just got home. I see everyone's already picking the guy with the funniest name. We're off to a wonderful start.

Just need to take care of work and I'll be back in a few hours, hopefully having read all this lovely wall of text.


Anyways, I'm a long time lurker but a first time player. Ever. I've played a few ranked EM games but that was a long time ago and I imagine chat is different from forum around here. Other than that, I've tried hosting a few games myself, but they weren't really as serious and I was more into hosting just for the flavor. So feel free to lambaste the new guy as it were.

Vote: copper223


See you in a few hours.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:12 am

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Btw I'm countervoting based on solely the first 2 posts. I haven't read a thing yet.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:52 am

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Okay I'm back. Been reading for the past hour. I feel like an idiot noob, but trying my best here:

To reiterate, I've never truly played a single game and I'm basically as new as how Astyanaxx describes. Though, I wouldn't put it past him to say that just to be looked over. I dunno, maybe its cos I've been burned a few times by obfuscating newbs in EM in the past. Don't mean to presume, but coming out to describe yourself as bumbling and foreign from the getgo is a bit on the nose, doncha think? Just a curious thing to say

So. Let's go with that: Unvote.
Vote Astyanaxx
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drealmerz' vote for me was warranted. But dude, you gotta stop being so verbose. I almost fell asleep just trying to sift through your madness. I agree with copperz on his previous quip, however I'm a little conflicted about em. I guess he would have no true reason for bandwagoning against me from the getgo, other than because rvs. And his latest post seems logical enough. The same goes for Accountant. So, hopefully I'm reading this right and thinking that the 3 of you are just trying really hard to paint Town.

@goodmorning, does this mean everything drealmerz started with his nonsense NL theorycrafting can be deemed irrelevant to this case?
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Post Post #68 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:29 am

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In post 62, goodmorning wrote:The reasons why dreal and Accountant are continuing the conversation could be, though.
This is exactly why I asked. I can't help but feel at the back of my mind that your vote may have some merit, if only for this. Thanks to dreal's babbling though, I cannot discern if Accountant legit wanted to discuss theory or if he just felt really offended and needed to iron things out.

Leaning a bit on Accountant as well.
In post 63, Astyanaxx wrote:@Stapler That's just a way to explain my future behaviour, which will probably be more passive than the average player. I'm trying to get a grip of this form of Mafia play and people would probably have wondered why i'm not participating as much as the other if i didn't justify it some way or another. If i was to defend myself mid-Day 1 with "sorry i'm new" i feel like it would have made me very suspicious. I can see how that would make a fitting stance for a mafia player trying to go under the radar, so i understand you being wary of me.

As for the NL conversation, i don't have much to add, although i'm not quite sure why it dragged that long.
I know. It's just. Saying all that and nothing else adds a little caveat to it, you know? Like "please im new dont hurt me" and then nothing else but non-comittal agreements (not bandwagonning). I mean, I'm as new as what you're purporting but I'm trying my best here. At best I might just be overthinking, at worse you've played this before and you think this is a unique in for you.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:12 pm

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Sorry, for those not in the know...wat does "buddying" mean? Is it the same as bandwagoning?
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Post Post #95 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:52 pm

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So, its normal to metagame on rvs right? Or is it just something you guys are doing because you've already gamed with each other and know each other better than us newbs.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:35 pm

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I think drealmerz' heart is in the right place but his actions are making things harder to discern.
In post 115, drealmerz7 wrote:It's not really a "joke" even, just an amusing flavor-based (I do like flavor) role-play of sorts based on what there is to use to do so, as I stated that I like to do. Because there was nothing else going on and I thought it'd be fun/funny.

What serious discussion was it in the middle of? I don't agree that there was such a discussion going on. If there had been serious discussion going on, I wouldn't have said "I think it is time to try and analyze the most important thing we have available to us so far:" because 1.) the "I think it is time" wouldn't be accurate in the middle of a serious discussion so I wouldn't want confuse things by saying this and, 2.) I'd be talking about the content of the serious discussion instead of amusing myself with some meaningless flavor-talk.
Whether or not you agree that there was any kind of serious conversation going on before you dropped that joke, it doesn't excuse the fact that it IS a joke, and a really non-sequitur one at that. I was actually stunned by how late that kind of post was because that's usually the kind of joke you make during an RVS, so then I thought you were just trying to sarcastically prove a point that the NL convo was as fruity and over the top as this joke, but no. Apparently you really did mean to play a straight joke and expected us to accept it as nothing.

Possibility 1: You made an inquiry towards Jae, got bored waiting for 33 minutes of nothing, and decided to further develop your persona as verbosely established (something which you were warned against doing btw because of how counter intuitive it is) by making jokes.

Possibility 2: You made the joke on purpose. I mean even if the playstyle of all 11 normal games over wherever were different from how this one was played, you would know that making that kind of post in that moment was highly inappropriate. So I dunno...a gambit? Or possibly a distraction or deflection? I can't possibly be the only person who's thinking this.
In post 115, drealmerz7 wrote:And now you're rephrasing things by saying I'm "new to...the playstyle and methods of this site...[because my] earlier ideas about No Lynch [were] one manifestation of this" which is not true at all and something I thought I made clear (I wasn't purporting no-lynch for this game! AND where I'm from also holds the same general view on no-lynch.)

And now it seems to me you're essentially saying "if you don't agree with the general policy about D1 no-lynch held here on this site, then your opinion/viewpoint on it are simply not going to be taken seriously or considered by me" or something similar, and that is a problem and scummy, to me, regardless that you're not actually taking issue with my no-lynch stance in this game.

*sigh*
And you know you could've let it go, right? Accountant neatly explained that the the banana split is nothing more than flavor. This terrible incident could have been cleared so easily, but no. You decided "well, it's not in my persona to just not concisely accept things as they are. I'm going to argue about this meaningless tirade and it's not like it's theorycrafting because what the parts of a banana split represents isn't something you'd actively want to discuss post game like NL on D1."
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Post Post #173 (isolation #7) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:55 pm

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Not to question inefficiency, but why did it take this long to replace Kuroshira? Shouldn't he have been booted the moment the game started?
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Post Post #176 (isolation #8) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:16 pm

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Does it take elements from copper's 145?
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