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[Vedith]

Wtf are you all going on about?

VOTE: BlackStar

Scum found.

[Vedith]

Pretty sure that, considering we were discussing how scum had daytalk, no one's going to think it's a scum slip. ...

Pretty sure this is a scum slip.

[Vedith]

Pretty sure that, considering we were discussing how scum had daytalk, no one's going to think it's a scum slip. ...

well was wasn't at the time. you commented it offhandedly so I thought I'd reinforce it a little :3 But now no one will make the mistake

No one cares
Vote Blackstar...

[Vedith]

Why?

I have a day guilty on him...

[Vedith]

Kinda wanna lynch Naomi they're annoying

[Vedith]

He's not serious, so it seems like a reaction test

How the fuck do you know if I'm serious?

[Vedith]

1. xyzzy

2. Transcend

3. light_ganski
4. massive

5. Jordarrian
6. Killthestory
7. BlackStar
8. Creature

9. Skelda
10. Vedith
11. pistachi0n
12. Io

13. Naomi-Tan

I got a guilty on Blackstar, how is that crossed out?!

[Vedith]

Calm down guys, Creatures not scum!

[Vedith]

Calm down guys, Creatures not scum!

I am calm, but his push on me is the least genuine non-RV I have ever seen.

No.

[Vedith]

Yo Dawg! I heard you like scum hunting...

[Vedith]

Io, Creature, you guys can get a room after the game, vote Blackstar now please!

[Vedith]

And that's because tos is bottom tier garbage. I didn't get much from his posts up to your vote. Care to elaborate your scum read on him? Are you in a neighborhood with him or something and he made a bad post in your pt? I don't understand the death tunnel. Dibd your vote even start out as rvs? Help a guy pls.

Vote him and I'll help you understand why.

[Vedith]

Pretty sure that, considering we were discussing how scum had daytalk, no one's going to think it's a scum slip. ...

Pretty sure this is a scum slip.

You were able to explain your scum read on this guy. But yet never voted him or anything. You've tunneled Blackstar for reasons unknown and i wanna know why they outweigh your light read.

That was a joke.
Blackstar is scum though.

[Vedith]

Help us understand now

You already know why though.

[Vedith]

I just woke up from my nap and I noticed we are on page 10 now so here is my plan in order; Firstly I want to respond to stuff that happened during my nap in a multi-quote and then I wish to give out my read list so far. So Give me a sec

Why are you telling us this?

[Vedith]

Catch up tomorrow

[Vedith]

Sorry guys been trying to recover this weekend from a chest infection.
Trans scum reading me is lazy as fuck all I'm saying there.

[Vedith]

Thanks Trans

Blackstar us just obvious scum. If you ask if he's scum I Ber he says no... just like scum would.
Light I don't have a scum read on... where are you getting this information? From Blackstar in your PT?

Why is Blackstar not scum for you?

[Vedith]

3. BlackStar moves up a tier because I think his case on me albeit wrong was genuine and town processed.

wanna actually answer my question and not force lines in the process?

You're reason for not scum reading him is shit. He made a shit case on you and now he's all good.
Lazy Trans is a disappointing Trans.

Looks to me that you are budding up to Blackstar and the only reason you are voting me is because I'm voting your buddy

[Vedith]

How so, vedith? I mean he's not exactly towny but there's scummier looking people including yourself imo

Also why are you so interested in transcend not scum reading him?

Okay, who? I mean, I know I'm town so tell me who else I should be looking at in your opinion. Give your reasons while you're at it.
I want to know how Trans is thinking. Does it worry you that I'm questioning Trans?

[Vedith]

Ignore him. He's made nothing but troll posts throughout this game. He won't give any real reason for scum reading me,

he called you my scum buddy because you thought he scum read you

. And did you see when he said that I'm scum because if someone asked me if I'm scum I'd say no? Lol it's obvious that he's not taking this seriously

When did I call him your scum buddy?
That's a lie off the bat.

I've actually clarified twice before this post that I am not scum reading Light.

This is Blackstar not reading the game, and trying to discredit a scum read on him.

My scum read is 100% serious, and his response of "He must be trolling" is a lot worse than my reasoning.

[Vedith]

You said it right there

That's at Trans, not at Light...
So you have lied there.

[Vedith]

Oh, so you're saying that I'm scum with Transcend? That's still dumb.

No, you're dumb...
So I have proven that you lied.

Do town lie?
If yes, what benefit did town have there for that lie?

[Vedith]

@Vedith - I gave reasons for my read on creature in 448, perhaps you'd like to look there? Funnily enough you haven't actually told us why you scum read blackstar so hard, please do explain that

Creature seems like Creature to me so far. You're actually trying to explain your scum read and I like that and all, but you're in the wrong place imo.

My spidey senses tell me that Blackstar is scum, he just lied to try and pin you as my scum read, what's your opinion on that?

[Vedith]

I didn't lie. It was a misunderstanding. Can you tell us why you're bullshitting so hard and conf biasing?

Mis understanding?
I responded to Trans and asked if he was in a PT with you.

You then start telling people that I am calling Light scum....

Explain this mis understanding again?

[Vedith]

I didn't lie. Cut the crap please.

p-edit: You mentioned light and then right after that you said "Did blackstar tell you that in your pt?" It sounded like you were saying that we were scum together and I said something in the scum pt

Either you lied or you're not reading the game properly.
I've stated twice before that I'm not scum reading Light.
It was also a response to Trans not Light. You are discrediting my comments, and now it's biting you in the arse.

Which ever one it is, you are scum and you were trying to reflect my scum read on you onto Light.

[Vedith]

VOTE: vedith There's no way you're this dumb as town.

Oh there it is.
Caught out lying and then votes me.

[Vedith]

Town!Vedith wouldn't take so long to start posting content and then proceed to tunnel someone.

I've been ill. So GTFO!

[Vedith]

I didn't lie about anything. You're twisting around what I said to paint me in a bad light. And you haven't considered for a second that I could be town. There's no town motivation for that, so its obvious that you're scum

Okay, if you're magically town, where should I look?
All I see is scum.

[Vedith]

Town!Vedith wouldn't take so long to start posting content and then proceed to tunnel someone.

I've been ill. So GTFO!

Actually, this is bollocks, you know for a fact I tunnel all the time.
So explain to me how this is different again?

[Vedith]

Nah Vedith, I've seen you as town, and this doesn't strike me as town vedith. The fact you've been ill doesn't cut it, last time I played with you there was clear town motivation in the madness. Can't see any now. VOTE: Vedith, rn I think you + creature as scum makes some sense.

Point me to town where I don't tunnel.

[Vedith]

Do you usually tunnel people right from the get go?

Depends.
I can link games where I have and haven't as town.
I can link probably every town game where I do tunnel.

I'm actually starting to doubt Creature now considering he said I don't tunnel.

[Vedith]

What you're doing is more than tunnelling, you've given us no case on Blackstar whatsover. I can see a minor case for Blackstar being scum based on his ISO but not based on your posts about him

Show me a town game where that's different.
You said you have seen me playing differently as town, so you can surely provide this proof.

[Vedith]

reading this toxic attitude is nasty.

Because I don't tip toe around fake posts like 48



Anyway, enough of responding to children...

So far Blackstar has lied about my reads, then blamed it on not reading properly then ignores questions at him.
He's scum. I would like to explain more but site rules are site rules.

[Vedith]

WHY DOES THE SITE LOOK WONKY AM I THE ONLY PERSON THIS IS HAPPENING TO?

I guess?

[Vedith]

[Vedith]

[Vedith]

1. I didn't lie about anything
2. What questions have I ignored?
C. You're distorting the truth in order to justify your read

Either you lied or you didn't read the game properly before accusing me of calling Light scum.
Either way, it was scummy.

However, tell me this... Why did you not comment on me calling Trans scum with you, but when you thought it was Light (apparently) it was a big deal?

@Maomi - It's okay kiddo, you can go colour in the corner.

[Vedith]

Not trading properly isn't scummy. It's a mistake anyone can make. You insisting that only scum can do it is much scummier. I did comment on it. I said it was dumb. Oh, you didn't read properly so by your logic that means you're scum lol.

But it's not just that 1 comment you haven't read, it's my comments in general.
I stated twice that I wasn't scum reading Light before hand. So you are telling me that you refusing to notice peoples reads isn't scummy? You trying to make it look like I'm scum reading someone else isn't scummy?

That's not a comment to it. When you said I said Light, you got defensive, when I said Trans, you didn't get defensive.
You questioned me on Light and didn't actually post anything from Trans (correct, posting, that's dumb isn't counted)

[Vedith]

i think they should be our lynch man

Blackstar scum, no thanks.

[Vedith]

i think they should be our lynch man

Blackstar scum, no thanks.

if bs is scum, why can't xyzzy be scum with him?

Do you think both are scum together?
If so vote Blackstar, then we can vote xyz tomorrow.

[Vedith]

Also, if I'm lynching one of { Vedith, Blackstar } it's gonna be Vedith.

[Vedith]

i don't think bs is scum lol

i'm asking you why bs/xyz is impossible for you.

I never said impossible. Quote where I said that.
I put that I'm lynching Blackstar.

[Vedith]

What do you think about KTS?

KTS kind of fell off the radar...

[Vedith]

Yeah that was more of a "recently" posted list.

[Vedith]

Yeah, prod my buddies!

[Vedith]

I'm just not feeling this game so far, honestly

Because I rattled your cage?
Talk to me about Maomi.

I'm not buying her bullshit play sadly, and I'm not sure if I should be.

[Vedith]

That clearly said Naomi!

[Vedith]

You didn't rattle my cage lol. I'm just not that interested in this game so far. And if you scum read me, why do you want me to convince you that Naomi is town?

I'd like your opinion there, helps me decide if she's your buddy.

[Vedith]

Now, I want to put Light to L1 because last time Blackstar thought I had him as scum, he got stressed.
As it stands, I don't have a reason but need to read the last few pages, someone give me the jip?

[Vedith]

I've been agonizing over whether or not to do this for like 2 days now. I knew from the start of the game that if I was going to use this it had to be on the first day. I didn't want to get nked or some thing before I had a chance to use it. Anyways, I went back and forth on whether to use it on Vedith, light or to wait and if see an even stronger scum read appeared. There's a lot of speculation around Light and his flip could bring us some good information, so I figured that this was the best choice. Plus the VC will reset and we'll have time to lynch someone else. I really really hope that this hits scum and I didn't screw things up.

Shoot: Light_ganski

Doesn't vig killing end the day?

[Vedith]

@Vedith, do it.

@BlackStar, You forgot the bold.

For what reason?

[Vedith]

Because light is scum? You need a better one?

I don't see it... Sell me.

[Vedith]

OK, where's the scumhunting?

Probably same place as where people on his wagon are at?
If you are sure that he's scum, you can give me a valid case.

[Vedith]

So Light was about to be lynched and Blackstar dayvigs him for town credit.

[Vedith]

If I had thought about it more, I either would've shot Vedith or I wouldn't have used my shot at all

But that's what bugs me... As town you would have shot me.
You didn't shoot me though...

Can you explain your case you had on on him again, or was it only gut?

[Vedith]

Vedith can I have sheeps?

Will you vote Blackstar with me tomorrow?
I can see both scum trying to push onto me now.

[Vedith]

@Blackstar - Views on Seraphim?

[Vedith]

Can you have scum dayvigs in normal games?

This is what I was wondering.
If you can I think you are 100%, if not then you're obviously cleared.

Seraphim opinion please?

[Vedith]

Creature will know!

[Vedith]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante

In normal games, vigs are always town. I don't like how your immediate reactions was to try and make me look like scum

You vigged someone who was about to be lynched.

What you linked is a night vig, not a day vig.
Day scum vigs do happen and not always town so that's incorrect on your part

However;

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

This proves you are town I guess.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Seraphim

Baaah!

[Vedith]

Told you BlackStar was town.

Inside knowledge?

[Vedith]

And you're still wrong.

Nope, sadly he can't be wrong.

Roles which are explicitly Normal for Mafia only include:
Mafia Goon, Encryptor, Ninja, Strongman, Traitor, any roles listed as "for any alignment"

[Vedith]

And you're still wrong.

Nope, sadly he can't be wrong.

Roles which are explicitly Normal for Mafia only include:
Mafia Goon, Encryptor, Ninja, Strongman, Traitor, any roles listed as "for any alignment"

Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Doctor, Follower, Gunsmith, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Voyeur, Watcher

[Vedith]

Why would you be sad about that?

Because I had you as scum...
Makes me wrong.

[Vedith]

You're embarrassing yourself, Titus. And no, I didn't town read jord

Why am I?

[Vedith]

Vedith is here!
I shall catch up later, weekend stuff!

[Vedith]

Who pushes a person who literally just killed scum >_< This is scummy as heck!

I once dayvigged scum that was an obvious lynch when I was scum before, why can't others?
I went the whole game with town town reading me.
So pushing for him being scum here wouldn't be so bad, if it wasn't normal.

Regardless, this is town Titus 100%

[Vedith]

lol vedith's reads are so terrible i honestly have no idea what to make with him

My reads can only be terrible if you already know peopls aligns...
Titus won't be scum, this is not scum Titus.
Blackstar won't be scum.

Any other reads I haven't given as I need to catch up and re read to get reads.

Explain how my reads are terrible?

[Vedith]

k so youre one good read is on obvtown, but then you're going on about "oh this is 100p% titus xd" no its not. town titus is smert lmao.

Town Titus always has odd theories...
You obviously haven't played with her enough to say that town Titus is smart (assuming you mean in the sense of logical).
Have you ever been on a scum team with Titus?

[Vedith]

ive played with titus enough to know how they play.

Obviously not.
Unlogical Titus = town.

Prove me wrong.

[Vedith]

Is it possible xyzzy and Seraphim are distancing themselves?

Where do you work this kind of stuff out?

[Vedith]

I'll catch up tomorrow.

[Vedith]

Post later

[Vedith]

I'll catch up tomorrow.

Post later

Sorry - Busy weekend and all. :<

[Vedith]

So let me get this straight. Blackstar is claiming to have another shot?
So because he was stupid enough to claim that, he has to make his shot today otherwise he'll just be killed tonight (depending on setup blah blah blah).

You're pool is stupid though BlackStar. You have me in it, which I'm town. You have Titus in it, and she's obvious town. Sera I'm not so sure on now.
Trans or Naomi might be an okay shot imo.
KTS, Io, Creature and all town.
Skelda less likely scum than Trans and Naomi but the scum pool won't be outside of

Trans
Naomi
Skelda
Sera

[Vedith]

You haven't done anything town-like. The only reason I'm hesitant to use the shot on you is that your play in this game has been the exact opposite of how you were in our scum game that just finished. Titus is acting the same as usual, but I can't rule out the possibility that she's playing to her town mega on purpose so that I won't suspect her. And jord was really scummy plus light was possibly distancing him, but sera's posts haven't really been that bad. So I don't know who to go after. Why'd you say transcend and Naomi are good shots?

Regardless, that's my opinion on the game.
I'm saying from my prespective no yours you wally.
So why would Titus play differently to trick you and I wouldn't?
If you check my last 5 scum games I bet they are all different in some way or another. Your argument to me playing differently is invalid.

Regardless, killing me would be a bigger mistake here and killing Titus would be just terrible.
Because I find Trans and Naomi to be fake as shit. I don't like how Trans is avoiding my wagon considering, as you said, I've done nothing town like in this game.

[Vedith]

Actually, this probably is the best option right now

VOTE: seraphim

Why?

[Vedith]

Okay fair enough.
Personally I like Trans or Naomi for my choice but Sera is okay.
Lets wait for the replacement and until then talk to me about Naomi. You agreed with me on Trans yet you didn't really mention Naomi. Town for you? Why?

[Vedith]

I also don't see Trans as extremely likely

Show me how he's been town.
This also means you agree on Naomi, right?

[Vedith]

What's the case against Naomi? I know you said that you think they're fake, but could you elaborate?

Everything I read of them just looks too over thought.
Looks to be trying too hard to give a good impression rather than solve the game and just looks fake.

[Vedith]

I don't give a shit what reason you give.
You are saying why your posting looks fake with self meta. Self meta to say why you look scummy is so scummy anyway.

The fact you are trying to add in a fear tactic of saying that scum use these tactics against you means fuck all. You just want to be let off all game and give a bullshit reason.
Your posting looked a lot less fake in lazy Mafia, given that I could be more biased as I know you were town there when I joined.

[Vedith]

And you only decided to point this out in this one game? Have you actually posted this else where? I mean, it's a standard trait for you to look scummy so you should be saying this all the time, right?

No, I am saying you are trying hard to look town instead of trying hard to solve the game and fake post. And you answer it with that you do stuff that look scummy
How on earth is your augment that you look scummy in par to what I am saying?

[Vedith]

And your KTS vote is stupid, just to add.
Talk to me about Trans. You've not mentioned him too much as of late... Once I did notice was your response to 1265
Now tell me, if you look scummy and do scummy things, why did you expect to be the night kill?

[Vedith]

Your response is dreadful.
I'm going to pick it up tomorrow but feel free to give a read on Trans.
And quote every player that had you as town day 1.
Are you more town read than Blackstar?

[Vedith]

@Naomi
Take out scum and take out the multi posts you have 5 people calling you town and Creature crossing your name oit as scum, which coming from Creature doesn't mean a lot.

That's 5 people who could include scum in the whole game.
And yet you think you were more town read than Blackstar? Are you sure about that?
Over half those posts you showed not even called town .
You quoted light keep calling you town which just means he probably buddied you and a few posts from KTS who you are calling scum.
The reason you want everyone to skip it is because you don't want people to catch you out on it.

@everyone else - if you don't know this is fake then dear God.
I mean, read Naomi's iso and tell me that she is actually trying to game solve.

[Vedith]

Side note - when I try to phone post I'm getting what I got previously and it says that my IP is banned (Not sure how that works ).
most of my posting comes from my phone so I need to resolve this - Any ideas anyone?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Naomi

[Vedith]

So here comes the lies from Naomi?
I never once said I town read Light. I said I didn't scum read him. That's a huuuuge fucking difference.
You also changed to me scum reading Blackstar at day end of day 1? That's also a lie.

You are saying that everyone said to you that they town read you. However, you're quotes suggested 5 people if you don't include Light.
You are saying that I had everyone as scum in day 1 apart from Light and Titus. That's another lie.

When I get home I'm going to provide everyone who said you're town with words of actually town and not something like "not scummy" I'm going to show everyone I called scum and everyone I called town considering I was throwing shade on everyone but Light and Titus, correct?

Then once you're caught out we can just lynch you.
Here's some self meta to go with your self meta - as scum I push or join easier wagons. As town I push who I actually think is scum which normally tends to be the harder wagons. Either you're an easy wagon that 'everyone' town reads or your not.

Either way, I'm calling out your bullshit and I'll be on about 7pm to prove the shit you're talking.

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If this can't be resolved by tomorrow I will be replacing out as I'm on holiday by tomorrow with only phone access. Some feel free to advise as I'm shit with this kind of stuff. :<

[Vedith]

You say multiple people are scum, suspicious or ask when they are on a team and keep referencing there PT. I don't need much more than that.

I'm not going to read your 5 person theory post so don't waste your time. its not worth even considering.

Point me to a player that hasn't had multiple people as scum in this game.
You are saying that me questioning/commenting on peoples actions is me calling them scum. Either one of us are mis reading something here or you are mis repping my ISO.

Why would you not read my counter to your comment of everyone calling you town?
You are giving false information out, and if you're not giving false information then that means my response will be false information. Either way it should be addressed, correct me if I'm wrong?

[Vedith]

I did say that they was town before this happened >_< but they want me to fight them.. and I'm thinking there less town when I researched and the harder they pushed.

So I'm scum because I called you scum...
That's what this basically says.
And KTS is my buddy, yeah?

[Vedith]

You also need to stop being a self righteous prick. You're free-styling on blatant town.

And here's Trans defending Naomi.
I also believe you both calling me 'V' is a scum slip but I'll add to that later when home.
I need to check first to see if you have both been calling me that all game, or if it's probably in your PT talking about me.
It's about the small slip ups.

Also, you claiming TvT is such a cop out for if/when I flip. "See, it's TvT, lets keep town on Maomi". Not buying it.

[Vedith]

I no longer care about your alignment I just want you gone from this game.

You've heard it here first.
Naomi wants me gone because I am calling her scum, not because of my align.

@Blackstar - If 1 is calling me V all game and 1 is calling me Vedith all game, I can see them slipping here from talking about me in PT as the other taking habbits from one another.
You find scum a lot more by the small things than you do the big things imo, and I think that talking in PT has great influence on how people react, respond and just generally type. That's something I stand by.

Do you not find how they talk about each other or their bad interaction together even remotley odd?

Comments of TvT normally come from scum with a TvS, and TvS normally come from scum against a TvS.

Challenge me on that, go for it.

Before I even put my actual post in to prove Naomi wrong, Trans is trying to stop the conversation further and Naomi is already refusing to read it.
That's scared scum.

[Vedith]

Vedith is far from anything extremely toxic. He's just being conceited and silly.

This is false.
When I know that I'm right I am very toxic (or at least seen as that).
Tell me where I've been in a game as town as not toxic in this kind of situation, Trans.

[Vedith]

What I'm saying is you're toxic and make games unpleasant sometimes but you're not even remotely close to as bad as some other players I've met in my mafia career.

I mean, that's pot kettle there, but fair enough I mis understood your comment.

[Vedith]

Hi Rach.
View on Trans please?

[Vedith]

KTS, Skelda, Transcend, Vedith

Who's scum here?

Trans.

[Vedith]

Um vedith what about what else is going on?

What do you think of titus (blitz) and her tunnel on me?

What do you think of tran's feelings about blitz (titus) being scum?

What about the updates I made plus my vca stuff and looking at light's ISO?

Anything about any of that?

Titus is town... Titus is wrong more than right as town, but this is Titus town.
Trans see's an easy mis lynch, and you guessed it, that's Titus!
You basically agree with me that Naomi and Trans are his scum buddies from what I saw, the VCA doesn't mean a great deal as there wasn't a lynch. Pushing a buddy to L1 without a real push waiting for an opportunity to vote else where is common.
Other than that, no one seems as scummy as Naomi and Trans.

I think Naomi's posting is fake as shit, and she even tried to say that she was more town looking than Blackstar at the end of the day.

Creature is going to be town and is Vig, meaning that scum were blocked or doc healed their target (blackstar).

Skelda I feel is being an easy push as scum here and I'm going to take a guess that Trans and Naomi get to float on by with stupid mis lynches.

Naomi even said herself she doesn't care about my align (ready to say, "oh he's town, he was a dick anyway").

[Vedith]

how do you see her as scum with her posting so much stuff? I have never put half that effort into a game when I have been scum?

It kind of reminds me of all the flippin effort I put into Mastin's game recently or into Homestuck.

I was 3rd party town allied and won with town, in mastin's game, and the town jk who jailed with long impassioned speeches in homestuck.

Amount of posting or effort into a game is not an alignment indicator. Her posts seem too much of her wanting people to town read her more than anything.
Naomi seems to post a lot regardless from what I've seen, so it's more of a personality trait imo.
The difference is, she normally looks more genuine. I mean, she even came into the game saying that scum will push her for looking scummy. It's that's not a cop out I don't know what is.

[Vedith]

Me and V are not getting along. I've done blowing up at V being a jerk for now. So I'm just kinda letting his stuff sit. but I don't like it at all..

I'm a jerk because I think you're scum!

[Vedith]

Your a jerk beacuse you spent the majority of day one tunnelling blackstar who was town. and then switched to tunnelling others when they turned out to be town. you hound people regardless of alignment or efforts they are putting into trying to scum hunt! I put so much effort, reading and re-reading and your just like; pfft they are trying too hard bet they are scum.

I'm a jerk because I'm pushing who I believe is scum!
Does this make Titus a jerk too? Lets be truthful here, you are just AtE right now... "He called me scum, omg what a jerk lets lynch him regardless of alignment".
Effort can be put in by either align, it's if it's believable or not, and I don't believe yours.

[Vedith]

NO! >_< Thats not even how town thinks ! URGH Go away!!

Again, this just seems so fake...

[Vedith]

could you two please stop arguing sigh the TvT stuff is just noise that is getting in the way of actually finding scum


hmm Black that is also a lynch I could support.

Why?
The way KTS has been is NAI for him.

Apart from posting a lot, why is Naomi town for you.
Why not Trans over KTS?
What has stood out from KTS to deserve the vote?

[Vedith]

I have played with KTS in a few completed games, he seems more apathetic here, not invested, in those games he was a bit off the wall but at least he seemed more motivated to help town, even if sometimes his stuff was way out there.

As of late, I feel he's put less effort into games.

[Vedith]

I'll be on tonight.

[Vedith]

Can we vote Trans if Naomi is off the table?
I'm still v/la so I haven't caught up but I know that they're both scum.

VOTE: Trans

[Vedith]

no expedience is scum stop ! being ! bad !

That's what I do best...
But seriously, vote Trans and we can look into your idea when we lynch Naomi tomorrow and have 2 of the scum

[Vedith]

I'm still V LA until Monday just for the record.
VOTE: Naomi

I am calling her out as I am only VT.
The fact Naomi has already said she wants to vote me regardless means that she will say tomorrow that she lied as she just wanted me lynched.

Naomi is confirmed scum now like I've been saying all game.

[Vedith]

Pretty sure Transcend is scum here and is likely a scum watcher.

The proper play hands down is to lynch Vedith. If Vedith flips scum, then scum have to use what ability they have to prevent follow the cop. Naomi will likely get another result, thus wrecking scum.

VOTE: Vedith

I can be the lynch as long as Naomi and Trans get lynched the next 2 days
Trans is obviously going for town cred on me and Naomi is just telling little prokies.
Don't let "Oh hehe I just wanted him lynched and was so sure!" Get played though.

[Vedith]

Transcend and Naomi-Tan being scum together would mean town had no investigatives.

2 town vigilantes + bodyguard isn't balanced even if mafia are all goons.

Town don't have 2 vigs a BG, tracker and neo.
2 vigs and BG is very reasonable for town from tracker goon and goon.

[Vedith]

Pretty sure Transcend is scum here and is likely a scum watcher.

The proper play hands down is to lynch Vedith. If Vedith flips scum, then scum have to use what ability they have to prevent follow the cop. Naomi will likely get another result, thus wrecking scum.

VOTE: Vedith

I can be the lynch as long as Naomi and Trans get lynched the next 2 days
Trans is obviously going for town cred on me and Naomi is just telling little prokies.
Don't let "Oh hehe I just wanted him lynched and was so sure!" Get played though.

Your the one who put us in this situation not me. I looked into you and called that you had a non-VT. You decided to make this a 1v1 and now one of us is going down and then you'll die. regardless of which one of us goes today. This was a stupid wreckless move as scum. if this was lylo it would of been an easy win but as its not... You'll either die and people will say; naomi was right. or you'll flip and be scum. if not I'll flip they'll see town neo and your dead tomorrow.

You pushed on someone that's V LA and not been posting in the game claiming not VT.
You were probably hoping for a fast lynch and then to say you took a gambit
I'm not sure what "put in this situation" means as I've already said you and Trans are scum and I want you both lynched before or after me.

[Vedith]

Run Titus up in votes, flip the scum outside of Vedith/nay, win the fucking game. Do this while I'm at work.

This is Trans trying to get a flip on another town so tomorrow they can lynch me.
Today has to be me or Naomi no questions.

Then the other tomorrow then Trans the day after.

[Vedith]

Thanks for modding Dunn good job
Sorry for being useless Trans, nice play to pull it back though.

[Vedith]

Yeah I don't mind lol