Newbie 1742 dead topic

[Vampirate]

Hi all i'm actually surprised I was the first NK target, it's really been the first time it's ever happened to me.

[Vampirate]

Anyways I don't think Icy or Penguin is either scum.

Penguin's hammer just draws too much attention to himself if he were scum and whomever killed me had to have paid attention to the game somewhat to want me dead, why kill me over the IC anyways if you were a newbie.

If I were a newbie scum i'd probably kill the IC first.

Another thing though is since there was a lack of information, Blix accusation on myself might have been enough for a newbie to keep myself alive for a lynch target.

My guess is one of Huntress or Accountant is scum, no idea on who the 2nd one might be though.


Also to Blix, sorry about that day, to be frank you need to put more into a vote than just vote otherwise people will question it. (also yeah, I totally missed that question lol)

On the other hand you just got the easiest 1st game clear ever probably, I wonder if that lynch set a record for how fast it was.

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Hey I don't mind.

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I probably cleared off Penguin too easy.

1. Scum are human and can indeed derp hammer by mistake.

2. The derp hammer could have been a play to get players to sort of subconsciously clear him as a 'town mistake'.

But really, it isn't something people should read that much into either way imo.

[Vampirate]

Yesss feed my ego, talk about me morreee!

On a serious note I hope the game picks up more steam, I guess with the replacements there just weren't that many people talking.

[Vampirate]

We need blood people if not in the physical then in the mental, go get edgy and CUT with words! Let the game get life and let the circulation flow!

Yeah, I kinda just want something fun to watch.

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I feel so inconsequential to this game, I got like 3-4 posts in, get killed, then Day 2 hits and then the real meat of the game comes in. Blah!

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I was given appetizers then told to go home by the scum.

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Icy's logic seems to be all over the place.

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As a general rule though, the correct path if 'Penguin is scummy but I want to pressure Accountant due to whatever reasons', scum or town, would be to vote Penguin do to the reason you found him scummy and in the same post question Accountant while stating you found Penguin scummier due to X reasons.

Pressure only means anything if the target in question is getting closer to a lynch.

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^lol just realized i'm repeating Accountant's post 146 but in nicer words.

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I really like BlackVoid's post 137.

It looks like a really fleshed out thought process coming from town imo.

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I think another thing is if you had 2 scum reads however one scum read was much stronger than the other however the weaker read is getting voted by people it'd be alright to vote for the stronger read then.

[Vampirate]

Thing is if both your scum reads are at the same strength it makes more sense to put another vote for added pressure. One can always vote for the one scum read. Then in another post dedicate that post to go after the other scum read.

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They thought you were tracker. Specifically

I'm reading Penguin's ISO and I think you might be right.

No - we don't want the scum killing investigatives and preventing them from bringing their investigations and info to the table the next day. Plus, if we lynch Huntress, it won't be LyLo.

How do you know we're in a setup with investigatives?

It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place

No. I get that. It's just that now you and Shadow have both commented pretty specifically on our setup. It's off-putting.

I also found these little tidbits:

is it possible hunt is a roleblocker

Why do you think this?

Because Scarlet's move makes no sense unless there is some gain, and the setup is as of yet unknown to me.

But, why that specific role?

Only the tracker knows that there is no roleblocker so the skepticism of a roleblocker existing could point to a tracker trying to hunt for potential scum trying to fake-claim PRs.

Not wanting to discuss reads in twilight could be a sign that he didn't want to give away who he intended to track.

So basically I agree. Penguin is probably the tracker. We should be killing Penguin and it's best if you perform the kill.

I'm going to go over [redacted] posts to see if they crumbed anything just to make sure. Since [redacted], I'm guessing it's not him.

Penguin probably unintentionally helped the town out. Well that's if the the town can nail a scum here.

[Vampirate]

My sacrifice was atonement for D1 actions. May I be forgiven.

NO!

Jk, don't worry about it.

[Vampirate]

Did Scarlet just basically scum claim in that last post or is it just me?

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It looks like a bad scum slip butane I'm missing something.

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but maybe*

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Then again it could be a newbie mistake however if Scarlet is town it might be enough for the scum to latch on. If Scarlet is scum then it'll coat her team.

Or maybe I'm just not seeing this from the eight angle and am missing something.

[Vampirate]

Scarlet is definitely town or scum #spoilers

After some thought i've determined the scum to be in this list.

Accountant
hinanawiscarlet
Shadowlancerx
Icy
BlackVoid

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Silliness aside let's see if someone questions him on it.

[Vampirate]

General note to new players, try not to wall post as much as possible, it'll help with people to remember you posts and makes it easier to read.

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I knew I was missing something, Scarlet's post made me reactionary.

Well if someone counterclaims then town has a 50/50 chance of survival.

This is actually marginally better than the 40% chance of hitting scum though and the scum would obv kill the PR if town guessed who the scum was.

Then again, I guess if you KNOW one of the 2 are scum then you'd take an extremely good look at both players posts.

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Then again obviously counter claiming is taking on unnecessary risk if you are scum.

I've truly been out of the loop in mafia for a while lol.

[Vampirate]

Now that there is a tracker claim town has a 50/50 shot of nailing scum either way.

Either scum/town counterclaims and it's a choice between 2 people, or there are no counterclaims and there's a 50% shot of nailing 1 of the 2 scum out of 4 players.

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I honestly feel pretty silly considering in one of my earlier games I was a tracker myself and claimed and managed to clear someone else, town lost that game still lol.

[Vampirate]

Dear mhsmith0,

In compensation for my silly dead brain I demand cookies for the dead.

Signed - Vampirate

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Dear mod,

Thanks for the spoiler, btw before you reveal the link to the deadchat at the end of the game, can you give each alive player a cookie?

I kinda want to see their reactions. For fun you can give them all different flavored cookies to confuse them even further before they read the dead chat lol.

[Vampirate]

I can but not before game ends, gotta watch out for making game related content

Oh yeah of course, let the game end first THEN give them the wtf cookies haha.

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Lol trolly mod here ^ XD

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Dammit I got pagetop by accident, now it looks like i'm pointing at the topic title lol.

[Vampirate]

Icy never voted and at least 1 scum did, might be game.

If true don't forget about the cookie giveaways before giving out the dead chat link. ; p