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Newbie 1742 dead topic
If you are here, you are dead. Or an observer. Or maybe just lost? Either way you should tell us all about it.Last edited by mhsmith0 on Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:22 pm, edited 5 times in total.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Now that you're dead, feel free to check out some of the resources I've gathered about mafia from a number of players who I respect a LOT. It's like my practice IC post, that I work on every so often since some day I'll actually pick up that slot (probably should SE at least once first though).
Spoiler: Voting Analysis
Spoiler: Micro vote analysis
Spoiler: Macro vote analysis
Spoiler: D1 scumhunting
Spoiler: Theories about how scum place their votes
Spoiler: Crunkus List of Things to Focus on (irrelevant/joke ones removed)
Spoiler: Sample Scum-catch #1 – CTR on Thryfing
Spoiler: Sample Scum-catch #2 – TWC on Harb
Sample Advice for Scum
Spoiler: Sjg's Advice to Scum Team
Spoiler: Behaviors, by TWC
Spoiler: On engagement, effort, emotion and tone
Spoiler: Interactions
Spoiler: Game review of an EXCELLENT performance by the mafia, by one of the losing town (Sunbae)
Spoiler: Game review of a poor town performance, by one of the winning mafia (CTR)Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Very ridiculous.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Not spoiling dead chat but feel free to play along and guess who you think the scum are. Obviously not very much data to analyze though...Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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FYI newbie games don't do speed deadlines. Icy may or may not be scum, but that wouldn't be the reason.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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I have a feeling there will be salt after this game is over, though frankly the goings on have mainly just been silly. You, fortunately, get to be the vanillager who ate a n1 bullet. Can't ask for more than that really.
Ps "clearly you guys would have won if I was still alive", that's what everyone will love to hear from you post game
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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More seriously, I'd say playing along from dead chat is both fun and useful. Blix, I'd definitely say it's worthwhile to play at scum hunting here with a known townie to bounce ideas off of. Game solving with no pressure to justify your townieness at the same time as doing that is a nice way to get in practice.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Eating a bullet was very good for town. Scum in trouble if they hit a VT tonight even given a mislynch.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Fwiw I'm actually pretty fine w vote parking on a scummy slot that isn't getting momentum early in a game day. The key is whether the push itself is righteous imo; you gotta see if it's just getting a vote in a cushy out of the way place or if it's a real read.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I suppose I'm more of a wordsy scum-hunter than a voting pressure scum-hunter. Like I'm generally more inclined to push people with words (asking questions, building cases, etc) than a "voting=pressure=scum-hunting by itself" sort of thing. Of course this sometimes makes me a bit more conservative with voting, for both good and ill.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Requoting for truth...
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PP's d1 hammer was INCREDIBLY anti town. Regardless of his alignment, the lack of thoughtful scrutiny on him is poor play.
I look around at the board, and I'm not sure there's a single strongly substantiated read in play. It's an overall pro scum environment IMO.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Well bv only needs to understand that if he's town , 2/6 odds he doesn't need to know it
I will say I'm enjoying night chat right now, scum team doing good work to think through how they can take the win home.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Looks like PenguinPower will be joining us soon, barring a last second change. Tracker will once again see a target go nowhere (n1 tracker tracked huntress nowhere, but of course that's not actually an innocent...)Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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One thing that may make town feel better is that BP setups seem to be the most scum sided of the matrix6 setups. IMO the best setups to run are jk only and tracker/doc. Jk/bp/rb pretty decent too. Don't really love running the others though. Amusingly this is now 2/2 times I ran matrix6 (first was offsite) where I randed bp/tracker. The first time also had the trolliest flip I've ever done as a mod
http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/thr ... post559380
Although given that he somehow managed to turn the d1 lynch away from scum onto himself, I think he kind of did deserve the sarcastic jester flip.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Accountant vs huntress just swamped day two over anything else. Few other topics were really dealt with in a meaningful way (though icys wagon rise and fall was an exception), and a bunch of slots haven't really been pushed or forced to demonstrate their alignment. Tough for town to win when that happens.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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In post 39, PenguinPower wrote:It's Accountant and Icy.Spoiler:Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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One thing I will say is that a relatively careful tracking of vote counts and vote movement should make one slot not currently getting pressure VERY suspect. Like, just tracking votes and ignoring reasons, votes alone make one slot (IMO) look a bit ugly. No comment on if it's ugly town or scum, but there's someone whose votes should be getting a good deal more scrutiny than they'd been getting.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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They thought you were tracker. Specifically
I'm reading Penguin's ISO and I think you might be right.
In post 228, PenguinPower wrote:
How do you know we're in a setup with investigatives?In post 227, Accountant wrote:No - we don't want the scum killing investigatives and preventing them from bringing their investigations and info to the table the next day. Plus, if we lynch Huntress, it won't be LyLo.In post 231, PenguinPower wrote:
No. I get that. It's just that now you and Shadow have both commented pretty specifically on our setup. It's off-putting.In post 230, Accountant wrote:It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place
I also found these little tidbits:
In post 211, PenguinPower wrote:
Why do you think this?In post 207, Shadowlancerx wrote:is it possible hunt is a roleblocker
Only the tracker knows that there is no roleblocker so the skepticism of a roleblocker existing could point to a tracker trying to hunt for potential scum trying to fake-claim PRs.In post 213, PenguinPower wrote:
But, why that specific role?In post 212, Shadowlancerx wrote:Because Scarlet's move makes no sense unless there is some gain, and the setup is as of yet unknown to me.
Not wanting to discuss reads in twilight could be a sign that he didn't want to give away who he intended to track.
So basically I agree. Penguin is probably the tracker. We should be killing Penguin and it's best if you perform the kill.
I'm going to go over [redacted] posts to see if they crumbed anything just to make sure. Since [redacted], I'm guessing it's not him.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Yes. Amusingly the actual tracker assumed he'd be the night kill... But it wasn't particularly obvious who he was.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Scarlet is definitely town or scum #spoilersShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Cc in lylo can work but icy has somehow been a town read so scum won't bother I think
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Ps n1 icy tracked huntress, turned out to not be super helpful though if it was tracker/doc would have been a HUGE win.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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In post 382, Accountant wrote:What part, Shadow? And why the hell are you disheartened if you think I'n scum? You should be like "I knew it! Accountant is scum and THIS PROVES IT" not "woe is me, accountant didn't respond"
Let's wrap this up, please.
VOTE: Scarlet
If I am town and Scarlet is also town scum will quickhammer. I am going to sleep now. If there's no game over when I wake up then it's either me or scarlet.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Step right up, Step right up, guess the scum team for post game credits. Five cents a toss, you can take home a big teddy bear if you get it right.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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And that's a wrap. I'll give scum half hour or so to twilight troll if they want.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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No post hammer banter. Guess I should lock/flip then.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Yes will do that tonight.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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