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[BK201]

@Transcend, care to explain your scumread on Mini? I've seen it asked multiple times and you have continued to ignore it.

OH GOD I MISSED RVS
I really like the interaction between mariar and transcend. She keeps on protecting transcend in a manner not far from masons protecting each other.
Or scums protecting each other; I'm just leaning on the first one. Mariar said (jokingly?) in #30 that she's voting her mason partner and now she's defending him. The interaction is actually really towny to me.

I

...Oh shit
So as town we should not find masons, but rather to find scums? Thats kinda against my normal play style but I guess I'll have to adopt.

Thank for the explanation anyway! It was really helpful

I think you were trying to fish because you're scum, not because you "need to adapt" what possible meta hunts town prs as town???
VOTE: SAD

[BK201]

Hi

Ari's a mislynch

Have a nice day

What's up with your read on Ari?

[BK201]

@Transcend wagon, Transcend is probably town he seems to be actually scumhunting in a way I think would be difficult to fake.

[BK201]

before i answer you do you have any other accounts on this website?

No but how is that relevant at all?

[BK201]

before i answer you do you have any other accounts on this website?

I said no? I do NOT have any other accounts on this website. Now answer me.

[BK201]

sry i missed 174. u have the same avi as someone else and i'm wondering if u were the same person but i just realized your join date.

anyways.

i don't like how she acted like a victim and asked everyone to explain their votes on her and made such a big deal about it.

I can't remember if I found this avatar from a search engine or if I commissioned it from a friend, but I understand now.

I got the same read on Mini but after reading the rest of the thread I don't think she's the scummiest choice. Also SAD is a better lynch than Aubrey.

[BK201]

More like overzealous noob scum.

[BK201]

Deep down you know I'm probably right.

Is that a pun on the game-type, lol...?

[BK201]

VOTE: Aubrey

Care to explain your switch from Ari to Aubrey? What's your read on Ari atm?

actually nah, i won't hard townread sad but i wanna see if he's consistently scummy or consistently towny

thanks for making me think twice tho BK

VOTE: Aubrey

You're welcome.

Back at EM we always followed the cop. Always. So guessing who PR is (and not lynching them!) was the priority

I've never been to EM, but I find this hard to believe. Do the mafia not simply kill the person people announce as the cop?? Anyone with EM experience? Is this bs?

[BK201]

I'm literally one of the most seasoned players on EM. I can confirm what he's saying is true.

So it would be normal to announce to everyone who you think the cop is, as town?

[BK201]

Ok thanks for the info. SAD isn't my top suspect anymore.

VOTE: Ari This is scum.

P-edit: I Agree Toe needs to post more but Ari has posted more without actually posting anything of substance. I find that more incriminating.

[BK201]

Care to talk me through Ari!Scum?

I like listening to what you have to say, but I think he's a mislynch as well.

Sure, I have 3 reasons for you. 1) Ari notes suspicion of SAJ #90, but doesn't vote for SAJ even though Ari was not voting for anyone. 2)After 5 posts has not voted for anyone.
3) After 2nd post has not posted anything of substance.

[BK201]

Also it's been a while, how do you hyperlink the post #?

[BK201]

town: creature, tojam2, oddmusic
scum: mariaR

Sell me on Mariar scum and Tojam town.

[BK201]

VOTE: Maria
Get me out of this.

If it makes you feel any better I think you're town, but if I'm right then you need to contribute rather than giving up. You can start by voting someone other than yourself. Hope you feel better.

...
Prime example. Ari is some supposed mislynch in your mind, and has a strong likelyhood of being a townie. Where in the 9 circles of hell did that come from!? This dude, of all dudes, should be a null read right now. I can even understand where people might see him as scum lean. Please visit all the other times I've questioned why you have town read people.
...

Aubrey is scum

I'm not seeing any reason to vote Aubrey over several other choices.

[BK201]

@Aubrey Why don't you join me and vote for Ari?

[BK201]

If you didn't have a vote on Ari who would you pick?

Burgerking.

Now that Mariar and MDS has requested replacement what do you people think of their slot?

Hasn't changed my opinion at all, I don't think replacing out should change anyone's opinion.

*she

yeh idrc if guys wanna pretend to be girls on the internet, but ok "she"

Plenty of girls are on the internet, and you should just respect whatever pronoun they prefer to go by. That's all I'll say on the matter b/c it's not relevant here. Can we just drop the topic, please?

[BK201]

havent u heard

it's the era of catfishing

K fuck you
VOTE: BurgerKing
I don't want a person like this in my game.
Congratulations on becoming my first official WOTC list member

omgus

omgus is when Person A votes Person B because Person B voted Person A
I voted you because you're an insensitive jerk.

honestly it seems like you're just trying to justify the omgus as not being an omgus when it is. i dont believe you really cared about my one post on misgendering and that you just used that as an excuse to vote me back

Your ignorance is showing, please drop it.

[BK201]

@IO Can you fix that please? I said "Your ignorance is showing, please drop it."

Fixed

[BK201]

^Already addressed.

[BK201]

Ari's VLA ends today.

[BK201]

ok. u never answered:

why would u vote me if u had to vote someone other than ari?

Oh shit I missed that post somehow. You know why, and it has nothing to do with the off-topic discussion.

[BK201]

ok. u never answered:

why would u vote me if u had to vote someone other than ari?

Oh shit I missed that post somehow. You know why, and it has nothing to do with the off-topic discussion.

i dont know why otherwise i wouldnt be asking.
dodging the question is scummy.

Considering how likely it is you're scum, I feel this conversation is pointless.

[BK201]

yeah BK201 is scum for dodging a simple question.
i also doubt he "missed" the post and intentionally ignored it bc he cant answer why, just like now hes still refusing to answer it by coming up with excuses.
hes probably buying himself more time to try and think up of a reason

Nice OMGUS. And I literally missed the post, I was a little upset by your ignorance and that's also why I posted inside your own quote on accident.

[BK201]

HOW AM I BEING IGNORANT, BURGERKING IS THE IGNORANT ONE!

I was calling Burgerking ignorant, not you.

ok. u never answered:

why would u vote me if u had to vote someone other than ari?

Oh shit I missed that post somehow. You know why, and it has nothing to do with the off-topic discussion.

i dont know why otherwise i wouldnt be asking.
dodging the question is scummy.

Considering how likely it is you're scum, I feel this conversation is pointless.

BK should address the question none the less. I detest the "you know what you did!" argument. I don't have much love for either of these two slots as of right now.

@creature, I already explained why.

To answer your question, b/c it seems like everything he says is just him appearing to contribute. Like his 510 and 517. I see Burgerking asking that question as scum, because regardless of the answer he can use that as his excuse to vote them without much risk. I just can't see town trying to lynch someone over their answer to such a joke question.

I still think we should lynch Ari if he is never going to vote anyone though.

[BK201]

If Ari isn't here how can he vote someone?

My point is has not voted yet, in the posts he did make there should have been at least one vote.

[BK201]

510 is creature btw

/facepalm, well I need to reconsider then. I still do not like Burgerking's reason for voting Gamma though.

[BK201]

Hi Gamma Emerald, hopefully you don't mind playing scum.

You have to reconsider because you though this was BK?

Correct. Please don't call him BK though, even to me it's a bad habit to start in this game.

P-edit, ha

[BK201]

VOTE: Burgerking

Maybe I was wrong about Ari, doesn't clear him but I'm second-guessing myself now. Haven't read yet but saw Ari replacing so give me while I catch up.

Ari, hope everything works out for you.

[BK201]

Aubrey-Transcend scumteam

Doubt it, there's no way they're both scum.

510 is creature btw

/facepalm, well I need to reconsider then. I still do not like Burgerking's reason for voting Gamma though.

yeh i dont buy this "misread"

he happened to miss my post questioning why he scumread me and then refused to answer it and now the reason is something that wasnt even my post. its all way too convenient. this guy is scum with gamma

This case on me is scummy as fuck.

Alright.

Oddmusic, Burgerking, Creature lock town (inb4 that's the scum team)

I'm just gonna say Aubrey is probably town too, I may have misinterpreted his efforts.

Tojam and Aristophanes feel like mislynches, but Aris does need to post more.

I'm also still pretty sure sad is town.

Mhsmith town? Maybe null? Idk. Controversial slot.

I don't think I'll be able to read SAJ this game, but from what I remember, I felt mostly town on him. I do wish he'd set his grudge aside.

I'm missing someone but I'll talk about them next post.

The two people I'm scum reading right now are Gamma Emerald and BK201. Maria's sub out was really scummy among other things. I don't think Gamma is genuinely advancing in his reads. As I said before I don't think his reads are genuine, and his tone is pretty off. As for BK201, I haven't liked his progression through the game at all. He picked a handful of players, who, to me, look like mislynch bait and put them in his scum pile. I don't like the reasons for any of them. And he hasn't made any genuine pushes. He's only defended others and himself, and I don't think he's been genuinely advancing through this game. With all this said, I'm gonna place a vote that I want others to greatly consider.

VOTE: BK201

What will you do after you lynch me? Who will you pursue if you're mistaken?

shit, I missed the last two sentences to your response Odd. Sorry. That still doesn't address what I brought forward for Toejam.

Welp three replaces goodbye Ari i'll miss you
Anyway while ever since the beginning of the game I was townreading Transcend but other than me and oddmusic and burger and creature he has practically accused everyone else. His votes generally stay on for 2 pages or so before coming up with an entirely new scum team.
He's either scum trying to keep his options as open and swingy as possible, or extremely skeptical town. While I still lean on the latter I just feel like something's wrong...
Anyway UNVOTE: MariaR I'll reserve my vote for someone else

VOTE: Burgerking

Maybe I was wrong about Ari, doesn't clear him but I'm second-guessing myself now. Haven't read yet but saw Ari replacing so give me while I catch up.

Ari, hope everything works out for you.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you were scum reading Ari while he was around for not voting. Not exactly because of his absence. All of a sudden he replaces out and you have to reassess the slot?

VOTE: Burgerking

Maybe I was wrong about Ari, doesn't clear him but I'm second-guessing myself now. Haven't read yet but saw Ari replacing so give me while I catch up.

Ari, hope everything works out for you.

1. Any reason you didn't react to my vote/FOS

2. Why is your vote so empty?

Okay, tracked down your quote on tojam:

All that being said, why would Toejam offer his life when Maria is getting shat on for doing it by me, and when he really isn't under fire at that given time? Yes the lil guy has 2 voters on his ass, but is that enough to really attempt the damsel in distress play as scum? Unlikely. Reads more like a lazy townie. Could totally be wrong here, but that is what it reads as to me.

Problem is, I can't tell what you're referring to exactly. When did tojam "offer his life"? I just don't get what you're talking about here honestly.

Yes, I was offering my life, and still will if necessary

[BK201]

Sorry I'm high as fuck, difficult to read my eyes hurt. I'm trying.

[BK201]

Keepin' it real.

[BK201]

Happy Election Day in the USA!

[BK201]

695, Aubrey - Happens to the best of us.

709, Sad - Do you suspect any of the players that Transcend has not accused?

711, Aubrey - I didn't like his failure to vote in 5 posts. Playing it too safe. He's not my top scum-read anymore.

712, Transcend - Hadn't read past my latest post, and I was in a hurry and had already expressed why I thought Burgerking was scummy.

724, Toejam - Why aren't you doing anything?

[BK201]

VOTE: sad1492

What was your reason for voting this guy?

ok I've read through the majority of the game

Transcend is scummy

Maria/Gamma is scummy

Aubrey is scummy

VOTE: Aubrey

What about Aubrey is scummy exactly? Do you have any townreads?

[BK201]

Please consider my case on Burgerking. His case on me is so artificial.

[BK201]

Aubrey is playing weird and i think he's scum

How many games have you played with Aubrey, and what alignment was he? What's weird about his playstyle this game?

@BK201 oh crap I just realized I didn't answer your questions
709: odd seems obv town, creature seems town. I just don't agree about burger, guts.
Also my strongest scumread right now actually is Burger. I just can't fucking explain it's mostly guts
@Tojam: It may or may not pressured you but at least I get the reaction

You missing something is the same reason Burger is voting for me, I missed something. Or at least that's part or most of what his scummy case on me is. Reconsider your gut on him.

Also, yes Dunn your predecessor (Ari) did have a wagon on him, albeit briefly. It kind of went away when he stopped posting. It was, at various points me, Doomfeathers (Flubberslot), Creature and BK. It wasn't much of a wagon but it did happen, it was there.

This will sound dumb but for some reason I thought I replaced doomfeathers

I can see scum forgetting who they replaced too but considering you have to know who your scum buddies and even more who yourself was as scum, I have a strong townread on Dun now.

Yeah. Aubrey could be scum pushing this tojam mislynch way too hard.

He's said that Gamma has been scummy.

But has he ever voted him?

NO.

All of Aubrey's votes feel tactical as opposed to genuine as in he's chessing everyone.

Post 919 is kinda out there though. I give you that. Tojam has been useless all game. How is it that he is all of a sudden distracting from the Transcend lynch possibility? Not that there ever was much of a chance of a Transcend lynch possibility since everyone just loves them some Transcend it seems. Throw out a few reads and votes and you instantly townread. Gotta love it.

Trancend-Aubrey starting to feel more and more like Death Note's Kira and L, in no particular order.

[BK201]

Can we get some more votes on Burger?

[BK201]

I'm hammering Burgerking if he reaches L-1
I'm still pissed at him

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Scumclaim.

[BK201]

This is such a bad misslynch.

[BK201]

Well I'm going to reconsider my thoughts about Burgerking after I ISO Maria/Gamma and their place in the game.

VOTE: Transcend
I'm voting my mason partner.

I don't think I've ever caught scum from RVS but this either points to or away from Transcend. Always possible it's literally random though, but I feel like scum have to think about every action. Now that I think about it I've seen a player joke about being scum with his actual scum buddy in front of everyone before.

I don't townread Transcend let's make that clear but you're doing 1 of the 2 things I hate the most
(fast wagons lol)
Plus I know his play better than any of you so I want to explain that the 4 posts he's made aren't scummy what so ever.

Transcend and Maria have established history.

VOTE: Transcend
*taps foot*

Aubrey/MariaR/?????

WHO IS THE FINAL MR MAFIA MAN

i townread everyone else lol

pedit: what even

I need to have a srs talk with about 4 people when this game is over cause I just don't understand.

Anyway back to this and making Io's vote count life hard
VOTE: Creature

Voting Transcend only to change it 3 minutes later right after he posted stands out to me. Possible Maria was soft-bussing Transcend. I don't see a reason for her to back off if he's town.

You're honestly an asshole sometimes matt

When yo girl says your name like that you know you in the dog house.

VOTE: Maria
Get me out of this.

Mafia hammering themselves isn't necessarily a bad thing for scum because it's less information given to town, but this could be Maria punishing scumbuddy Transcend.

You're honestly an asshole sometimes matt

When yo girl says your name like that you know you in the dog house.

VOTE: Maria
Get me out of this.

This is the last of Maria's ISO. She only had any meaningful interactions with Transcend.

Aubrey-Transcend scumteam

The interactions between Aubrey and Transcend on Page 16 look like scumbuddies.

IIRC Gamma was the first to suggest Aubrey-Transcend team, and there was a decent amount of discussion on the possibility so it at least put the idea in our heads. Could be setting Aubrey up for lynch upon scum Transcend flip.

So I know a lot of people are liking SAJ (and even I liked his earlier posts) but I feel as if he has pretty much been playing under the radar...

A quick skim of his play suggests he's newb!town (even with his experience)

White-knighted SAJ, or soft-protected buddy SAJ. Leaning towards white-knighted.

I think tojam takes too much upon himself

What do you mean?

Your statement that you are the hardest to read, but I don't think that's necessarily the case, and you say you'd be willing to be lynched because of that. It's not your fault if people can't sort you.

This exchange reminds me of scum coaching scum, or he's just encouraging him to keep his minimal content posting because that can be good for scum.

Gamma, I still suspect you for trying to create hostilities between me and Transcend. I don't think my comment to Transcend was as hostile as you implicitly portrayed it as. Would you like to respond?

I was reacting to you
Sorry if it escalated anything
I like your play style

Seems like scum buddying up to town.

@Aubrey: I think tojam wouldn't get the distancing

Possibly more coaching from Gamma to Tojam.

VOTE: Transcend
I can't put up with another 3 months worth of s***posting, I thought I'd seen the end of it but NO, Transcend comes back to haunt me AGAIN.

I see this
Thinking Transcend and Tojam buddies for the voting patterns of tojam

I wanted a Transcend lynch but NO, tojam had to distract us
Actually that makes a lot of sense
VOTE: Tojam2

Tojam flopped as an attempt to distract from better scum

Lots of focus on Transcend and Toejam. I think it's a good idea to bus both of your buddies but I don't know how common it would be. I'm suspicious of Transcend and Toejam but I don't think Gamma would bus both of his buddies like this. Would be floored if he did.

I'm hammering Burgerking if he reaches L-1
I'm still pissed at him

Considering Burger wagon never got close to L-1 this looks like distancing.

i dont think Transcend scumtold but i think maria's defence of that was really scummy

VOTE: MariaR

town: creature, tojam2, oddmusic
scum: mariaR

After reviewing the nothing that is Burgerking's ISO, Burger parked his vote on his buddy so it looks like he's doing something without having to put any effort in. I don't think a guy barely playing the game expertly caught scum. Worst case for him is parked vote on buddy gets him lynched and Burger looks town. Having created sufficient distance between himself and Gamma, Burger's scummy case on me conveniently gives him a reason to vote someone other than his buddy. Later when he realizes the BK wagon is going nowhere fast, Burgerking does the only other thing he can do and busses Gamma putting him at L-3. It's the only explanation for his play and his scummy case.

VOTE: Burgerking

Have not read Day 2 yet but I'll get caught up tomorrow morning. Doubt anything will change my mind on Burger but I challenge you to do so.

[BK201]

VOTE: Burgerking

make it easier for IO

[BK201]

Do you not trust me or something?

I led on a mafia day 1 and you opposed it.

You're really gonna try and lynch one of my townreads?

I want to trust you, but for now I'm reserving judgement. Either way Burgerking is scum.

[BK201]

She could be one of these players that get emotional so their wagon dies.

Oh nvm, she doesn't act emotional.

What exactly changed your mind?

Read List based on Gamma's ISO

Town: Transcend, Burger King

Town Lean: Tojam, Dunn

Scum: Flubber

I will read up on some people more and post a better read list.

Burger is coasting scum. Explain your read on Flubber.

Gamma replaced Maria. So that's a combined scum slot.

Then that means i will have to ISO Maria

Possible town-slip.

So uhhh can somone explain to me why the idea framing someone that was a counterwagon to scum seem like a reasonable play?

You're right, Transcend wasn't framed that would never work. Either scum himself or Aubrey looked like a mason.

VOTE: flubbernugget any reason why or just a pressure vote?

1) nobody seems to care that you are scum, and I don't have the time or patience to harass everyone over it

2) Transcend is screaming about how he's not scum because he was a big contribution to the Gamma wagon. One push doesn't make someone town, and it looks to me like Transcend is trying to coast off a bus. He is not furthering his reads in any reasonable proportion to his aggression.

1.) I don't agree, but you if really think so then convince me. 2.) That would make sense, not sure Transcend is scum though.

Burgers town tho

Just a banned user that doesn't care about this game

You're writing Burger off. Makes me question if you're his buddy and I don't like it.

Alright pick a lynch:


mhsmith

Flubbernugget

Creature

Transcend

Are these your scum-reads, if not why did you pick these 4?

IIRC there was a "well Aubrey never took off as a wagon therefore maybe mason" idea floated, but unless there's a reason Aubrey SHOULD have taken off (there wasn't IMO) then it's a spurious argument born if lazy reasoning. And if that's the best argument for Aubrey as a maybe mason, then it's a shitty pr hunting shot, and it's again not a shot I'd have had motive for.

Ps I'm now the second counter-wagon to trans (flubber #1). I feel like trans-saj is too easy of a scum team, but I'd say it's highly likely at least one is scum.

I doubt mafia thought like that, but they could have picked up on some mason-tell we're missing. Is your read on SAJ

dependent

on Transcend being scum?

Lol ok
VOTE: Mhsmith0 seeya
I always wanted to lol hammer.

Really? I think this is the quickest hammer for Day 2 I've ever witnessed....really sketchy.

FOS

Sad unless Mhsmith is scum then we're almost done here and good job. Still that hammer was reckless either way. Not everyone got to chime in and we had a replacement (Fitz) that only got to post once or twice.

Good news: I'm not a mason
Bad news: I'm town

Tomorrow wagons should be SAJ/trans and maybe sad

Aubrey kill is EXACTLY what I'd expect from trans and his shitty kills, and SAJ hop on my wagon was horrific.

Any other reads?

if mhsmith is scum we're still lynching transcend btw

I can respect a good double bus

Is this a joke? No scum in their right mind would double-bus in this 3 confirmed town set-up lol. If Mhsmith is scum then almost everyone on his wagon is borderline confirmed town. We'll see.

[BK201]

Too bad we have no idea what Burger thinks of all this. Convenient for him isn't it?

[BK201]

Sad's lolhammer yesterday was shady but my strongest town-read is on Sad. And if you disagree with me you're not paying attention or you're scum.

I refuse to believe town can be aware of their own confbias and make no attempts to correct it

Your attempt to hand wave smith's flip is pathetic

Couldn't agree more, Flubber.

VOTE: Transcend

L-1

Partner Titus for trying to lynch Sad and for Burgerking making him look bad.

[BK201]

I'm pretty sure it's a rule that you play to your win-condition, and I don't think Transcend followed that rule by betraying us like that. I've only seen that shit from scum.

Sucks Sad died, but at least we have that lolhammer cleared up. I think mafia were mason-hunting with that kill since he was so suspected.

As much as I'd love to be right about Titus I am going to ISO everyone, and a couple dead players too after Thanksgiving.

[BK201]

Actually fuck any townread I had before.

VOTE: BK201

I promise you I'm town, just help me find scum.

This is such a bad misslynch.

???

And?

Very useful performance from Titus.

Titus is probable scum, why don't you look at how easy it was for Burgerking to do everything he did so far from Scum perspective.

[BK201]

Titus can't be the only scum, who else is?

I find SAJ's entrance into Day 4 scummy. I'm going to see if I can meta anyone after I ISO them because almost everyone is equally suspicious. I think the problem with lynching scum Day 1 is we have less tells to hunt. You're my strongest town-read mostly for your Day 1. Everyone else is null to scum.

[BK201]

UNVOTE:

Might as well take my vote off a player I know is never going to get lynched. I thought Maria self-voting is more a sign of pressure and not an appeal to us, no matter how Maria frames her argument.

Can you elaborate on what you were thinking in this post?

I think tojam takes too much upon himself

So this looks like it was in response to Toejam saying he would sacrifice himself Day 1(?). This may have been Gamma coaching Toejam into chilling out with the sacrifice himself business. Worth mentioning.

[BK201]

@BK, if my vote isn't somewhere useful, I'm not helping town.

I understand that, let me be clear. I am specifically referring to the second sentence in that post of yours. Please explain to me what you meant.

[BK201]

This is what I've gathered.

Toejam: Very often lynched Day 1 as town. Found 2 games for Toejam scum, in both he made it to endgame and won. In one he bussed his buddy hard and the other he only had 15 posts and put a neutral read on his buddy in that one. Slight town lean for the day 1 sacrifice himself thing.

Titus: Only looked at Burgerking since Titus has only one(?) post. Only found one completed game from Burgerking, he was town and looks like he was actually scumhunting and being effective in that game, unlike this one. Scum.

SAJ: Unfortunately nothing to review. Slight scum lean but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now since he's new.

Decent TR on everyone else.

@Titus, Your predecessor's scummy case on me, lack of authentic scumhunting, and you've done nothing to convince me I'm wrong so.

Titus

@SAJ, What do YOU think?

[BK201]

VOTE: Titus

[BK201]

I think Titus only having one post is a bit suspicious and they arent really contributing either plus they did replace for Burgerking which i had a scumread on. They are probably a great place to start. I will look into some others more and get back to you soon.

Did you look into others yet? What do you think of Titus now that she has more posts? If you really are a mason, why claim VT at L-1?

[BK201]

What if we try to lynch the other scum?

How do you suggest we do that without any confirms/flips. I'm voting for who I believe is scum, it's less reliable to go for who I think that person's partner is because I have to be right about 2 things instead of 1 thing. Same goes for everyone on SAJ wagon too.

[BK201]

So SAJ is town.

2/3 of Tojam, Havingfitz, and Flubber are scum guaranteed....so I just need to figure out which one of you 3 is town.

I'm leaning towards Tojam because of his meta but I'm not sure because he was saying he would sacrifice himself Day 1 and I don't see why scum would do that.

[BK201]

SAJ you have any words of wisdom from mason chat that you want to share? If Tojam is scum then which one is his partner? We should take the time to be sure on both players before going into Day 6.

[BK201]

Everyone that was on the Gamma lynch has died, except for Tojam. So we either had 8(?) town on mafia lynch Day 1 or Tojam bussed.

[BK201]

I find it highly unlikely that Flubber and Tojam are both scum, so one of them has to be town. And if I had to pick I would say Flubber is town between the two. So I think the scum-team is Tojam-Havingfitz. If I'm wrong then it would probably be Flubber-Havingfitz, just because I can't see Tojam and Flubber as buddies.

Havingfitz is POE. Tojam is a combination of meta and POE.

[BK201]

SAJ, how possible do you think Tojam-Flubber team is? Some teams buss hard, some don't, but I find most teams do at least a little bit of bussing. Which is also why I find Tojam being the only unaccounted vote for Gamma suspicious.

[BK201]

FOS Tojam. Have not quite figured out who is more likely to be Tojam's partner.

[BK201]

You might be right.

[BK201]

^Scummy af

[BK201]

Why are you writing me off, Havingfitz?

[BK201]

I'm starting to think you're scum with Tojam.

[BK201]

VOTE: flubbernugget

[BK201]

gg wp

[BK201]

I'm not sure whether I played well or poorly?

I thought you played well.

thank you

Yes, thank you for hosting.

If I didn't out myself to save SAJ, maybe I would still be there and could do something.

We had you figured out as soon as SAJ claimed. I said this in our PT but Flubber and Titus were bussing SAJ ridiculously hard if they were masons, and it'd be weird for Tojam to try to sacrifice himself Day 1 as a mason. Leaving only you.

Transcend - you played well, and did correctly guess 2/3 of the scum but you pretty much accused everyone of being scum iirc Aubrey was a framing kill, but Dunnstral was mason kill that just happened to also frame you. And I still don't understand your self-hammer but it made things easier for us.

Dunnstral - You're the reason I thought Sad was a mason, so good job throwing me off.

Burgerking - I really did miss your post. I didn't intentionally ignore it. And I was really stoned that one day. It's NAI.

My first game in over a year. Was a very interesting game, so thank you all! Will answer any questions about my play, just ask.

[BK201]

if only i wasnt replaced out of this game.

i nailed 2 scums. bk201 was obv maf but dumb ppl be like hurr durr maf wouldnt hard defend their partner.

You would have changed your mind on me. You changed your mind literally the whole time you were playing. So get off your high horse buddy.

[BK201]

^I thought you were Transcend because you have his avatar.

Burger your case on me was bullshit. Just because I turned out to be goon doesn't mean your case was not bullshit. You accused me of being goon because I didn't see something you asked me. You would have never got the support to lynch me with the way you were playing. Titus did a much better job with your slot.

[BK201]

If anyone is interested in playing with me again just hmu. These days I only play one game at a time though.

[BK201]

Spoiler:

yeah BK201 is scum for dodging a simple question.
i also doubt he "missed" the post and intentionally ignored it bc he cant answer why, just like now hes still refusing to answer it by coming up with excuses.
hes probably buying himself more time to try and think up of a reason

510 is creature btw

/facepalm, well I need to reconsider then. I still do not like Burgerking's reason for voting Gamma though.

yeh i dont buy this "misread"

he happened to miss my post questioning why he scumread me and then refused to answer it and now the reason is something that wasnt even my post. its all way too convenient. this guy is scum with gamma

VOTE: BK201

Burgerking's 'case' on me. I literally did miss whatever his question was. That is NAI.

[BK201]

Transcend you played well (minus your self-hammer), but Burgerking contributed nothing to this game as far as town goes. Maybe some town-cred for being anti-Gamma but by no means did Burgerking have any good points against me. The ONLY thing would be him quoting me saying "such a bad mislynch" and repeating his vote on me.

[BK201]

Alright

I appreciate your feedback


And yeah oddmusic the sick fuck's plan at framing me pretty much destroyed my game.

;(

Also dunn softed mason with you so that's why i backed off.

Odd played well but if you look at the Scum PT you will see that it was my plan to frame you which pretty much destroyed your game. And I see what you mean about Dunn soft-masoning me when he said a couple times "BK is a fine member of this town".

[BK201]

@Burger, When the game is over, the acting is done. I do not carry on some charade post game, that's a waste of energy and serves no purpose.

I really did miss your question, and me missing your question was essentially your entire 'case' on me. It's NAI whether you want to believe that or not. I think that's NAI for just about any player, anyone can misread or miss something entirely. The fact that you are so convinced that I'm lying about this post-game is absurd. Congrats you thought I was scum, but it was pure luck that I was scum because anybody can miss something when reading, especially when reading on a screen.

[BK201]

uh ive seen scum act like they genuinely missed something postgame after i nailed them bc they dont like to admit it stuff.___idrc either way.

my case on u wasnt purely based on u missing that stuff. the main point was that u were attacking me when i was obv town and u hard defended the most obv maf ever lol

I've never kept an act going post-game, never will, and never been accused of it before. But I'm over it.

Good points, you should have included those in your case against me then. Might have got me lynched. But I don't see how you were obv-town. Maybe that's my error but I didn't see anyone besides Transcend say you're obv-town.

[BK201]

i death tunnelled 3 players.

MariaR ----------> Gamma ----------> bk201

all of which were scum. "pure luck" my ass lol

MariaR/Gamma same person so....you got one scum. Good job, I mean it. But you had nothing on me but a gut.

[BK201]

Well Burger, hopefully next time you try harder if we're on the same team