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^ i'm firing this if you don't dance with me ^ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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last game the mafia was forced into pairing up with each other after townies proposed to each other fairly quickly which ended up screwing them over bigtime later.In post 10, Dunnstral wrote:Stop proposing
also, i want to be your partner because you can read me easily and i can read you easily and if we're both town then scum is totally bonedShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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but then it still doesn't make sense. gentlemen are the one who make propositions to the ladies in this game. so you already knew you were a gentleman.In post 53, PsychoticDave wrote:I thought about being a Lady and forgot I chose to be a Gentleman.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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gamma is probably not scum though.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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can't wait for the other half of the game to arrive tho. reread what we have so far and nothing is really standing out either way except gamma being a townlean. meh. what are you gonna do when four players have yet to postShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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so let me get this straight.
you were completely oblivious to your own role, as well as to the game rules, when you asked someone to dance.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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it's just
it's excuse after excuse with you.
you didn't read the setup at all when you were /in-ing? you didn't read the game rules at all? yet you knew somehow that you had to pair up with people???ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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if he's a lady and scum it's suicidal to not accept the dance requestIn post 73, Dunnstral wrote:
Why not????In post 65, Parama wrote:gamma is probably not scum though.
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what push?? when did i ever say he was scum? i'm just. incredibly confused and bothered by his play.In post 75, MariaR wrote:dislike para's push on dave more to comeShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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the hardest part of mafia is parsing whether something is scummy or just really stupid playShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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why would it be scummy to accept a request right away.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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you are going to have to learn to deal with the aggressiveness. that's literally just part of my playstyleIn post 81, MariaR wrote:Your tone comes off extremely aggressive and it seems like a push from my few pointShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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maybe i'm just speaking from experience since the last time i played this setup i'd accepted a dance proposal within like 5 posts of daystart and nobody seemed to give a damn about thatShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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pondering. scum probably would not make a dance proposal so quickly just in case they need to save their partner later
a 2-scum pairing is better than a 1-scum pairing and a dead, flipped scum that association tells can be wringed out of
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actually, that's also not true. if one scum plays like crap and the other is playing really well the 2-scum pairing is worse for scum than the scum being flipped and dead because that way they're not dragging the other player down with them
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y'all post too much and i'm gonna have to spend most of my pre-work hour catching up lol, sigh
yup.In post 88, PsychoticDave wrote:Accepting my proposal wouldn't be AI at all.
One of the Ladies is going to die. Accepting it means it wont be you.
Not wanting to die isn't really AI.
whereas on the other hand not accepting the proposal very much is alignment indicative. hence my townlean on gamma.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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honestly i really think it's best for each gentleman to pick their own dance partner without influence from the rest of the town. we can sit through all these convoluted, time-wasting scenarios and at the end of the day the result won't be any better, more than likely. literally the only thing worth doing d1 is identifying a strong scumread in the opposite gender and avoiding pairing with them. that goes for both ladies and gentlemen.
pedit: psychotic, i have literally no clue what that is because i am on page four and will be on page four until i catch up to page five, at which point i will be on page five, and not page nine.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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crap. dunn is maf. oh well. no wonder he didn't insta-pair with me.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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there's this air of fake bravado around his posts. it looks like he's trying to play to his town meta but it comes off as a cheap imitation.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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hey vedith are you scum with dunnShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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so why aren't you? if you have a strong townread, what's stopping you from proposing? you do have that power.
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why did this take almost 2 pages of posting to reach after the initial comment?
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too scummy to be scum is a fallacy, y'knowIn post 201, Human Sequencer wrote: despite all of this, i townread them. i really don't think scum would let all of this slip because it's all simple stuff they could easily fix w/ just a little thought. reads to me like they don't really care about that, perhaps because they're more focused on actually finding scum. i'm willing to bet that scumhunting will start tomorrow.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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now that i'm caught up:In post 219, PsychoticDave wrote:Parama, pick a guy to remove a line of sets.
i don't like this plan. coupling all the pairings together means that people will choose in their own best interest and ignore the rest. and odds are most of the gentlemen will be unhappy with the end result. almost certainly scum can abuse this system to keep their partner alive, too, so it's just gonna end up with a dead townie and most likely one or two pairings nobody is happy with.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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sup. i post how i want. i don't even care that dunn did propose later because the timing of it was the issue. it's the kind of reluctance and safe play that scum tend to prefer, making an assertion but not following through on it, testing the waters and seeing how people react to make sure it's not a horrible mistake before they go ahead and do what they were planning to for real.In post 227, PsychoticDave wrote:You should read a little bit more before posting. He did propose.
and especially since this is dunn we're talking about here. safe play is like the polar opposite of his norm.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i never said the plan was scum-motivated to propose.In post 231, Vedith wrote:That's why DIG is scum Para!
also, the system dave is going with is completely different from what DIG proposed. DIG's plan was stupid, probably even worse (it gives way too much power to gentleman 4) but it doesn't necessitate ill intent to come up with a stupid plan.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i just feel like you're being too quick to dismiss the stuff you pointed out about dunn.In post 240, Human Sequencer wrote: i'm not applying a rigid concept to the game. i'm intepreting dunn's actions in this particular game as towny, because that's how i read the motivations behind their posts
'too scummy to be scum' is doubting yourself because you're reading them as definite scum
i'm reading dunn differently than that, i've seen a few things that ping me but the feeling i get behind his posts are towny and genuineShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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generally liking human's posting thus far but not enough to be more than a townlean because i know it's easy to fake that kind of stuff. still, between their comments on dunn and maria it feels like genuine thought and effort is going into scumhuntingShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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you don't do this even for wifom reasons. because if one of the players comes off as scummy then it doesn't matter if the other player is the towniest looking scum in history, they're still goin' down with the sinking ship. scum will only buddy with each other if necessary for one of them to not die, and even then only if they think their buddy wouldn't drag them down (+ it gives the scum who doesn't buddy with scum some delicious bussing points)In post 250, PsychoticDave wrote:But WIFOM though...
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i really like this post but i can't put my finger on why.
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why did you say you were ready to choose your partner ifIn post 258, Dunnstral wrote:
Had to be a page top for maximum shock factor and the last pagetop wasn't rightIn post 228, Parama wrote:why did this take almost 2 pages of posting to reach after the initial comment?
Also I wasn't sure I was set to goyou literally weren't ready to choose your partner
this is just a weak excuse.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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it's overestimating you if anythingIn post 260, Dunnstral wrote:In post 223, Parama wrote:there's this air of fake bravado around his posts. it looks like he's trying to play to his town meta but it comes off as a cheap imitation.
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(1) playstyle, honIn post 272, DIG wrote: Parama I also don't like all that much. (1) She seems overly confident on all of her reads, and (2) she was pushing for quick early pairings instead of thinking about it and trying to milk as much info as possible out of the pregame.
(2) okay, and now state the scum motivation in doing this. go on. will give you a moment.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i'd agree, if i was townreading you hard for it. but it's just something that earns you decent townpoints at best, but not a strong read.In post 289, Gamma Emerald wrote:Parama probs scum, their reasoning for tring me feels weakShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i try to keep my posts short and sweet to get to the point. i also hate reading textwalls so i try to avoid posting them in return.In post 301, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Some of her posts feel empty too.In post 291, Sickofit1138 wrote:Interesting I am uncertain on Parama. Is there any reason that warrants a scumread beyond her townread of you?
but i can assure you my posting is far from empty.
if you want empty posts? go through dunn's iso and point out all the things of substance he's actually said. there's really not much there.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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category A: dunn posts where he makes a point against someone
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i feel like i'm being pretty generous with the few posts in category A too
this honestly isn't that far out of the norm for dunn (except he's kinda blatantly omgusing me) but if you're saying someone's posting looks empty you better not ignore the elephant in the roomShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i honestly want this to happen just to spite dunn. the pairing part, not the getting lynched part. that's not gonna happen
i'd also love to get a better read on sick first, thoughIn post 116, Dunnstral wrote:Anyways whoever sickofit pairs with is getting lynched tomorrow, fair warningShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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@gamma who do you suspect in the dudes?ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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vedith has been useless and unnecessarily contrarian thus far and that's all i can remember about their playShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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+1 +1 +1 +1 +1In post 351, PsychoticDave wrote:Meta is a shitty reason to scumread anyone.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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some pressing questions for sickofit:
1. why is gamma townier than vedith to you?
2. out of DIG and Psychotic, who would you prefer to lynch?
3. is there any basis to your townread on me other than my non-alignment-indicative comment about posting style?ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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there's a difference between not being an active poster and not actively contributing to the game, and i'm pretty sure human is talking about the latter hereShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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uuuggh this is awful.
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why's this pot calling that kettle blackIn post 383, Vedith wrote:
Because it's you, and you never do?In post 382, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can shitpost too!
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In post 396, PsychoticDave wrote:In post 395, Gamma Emerald wrote:I find your behavior simply atrocious, Vedith.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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you're saying this like it's a good thing, but it's definitely loud and obnoxious in a way that hurts the townIn post 403, Vedith wrote:
I'm sure you do. You want to rush the game so no one calls you out, and it's obvious that I'm loud and obnoxious.In post 402, PsychoticDave wrote:Look at you, contributing nothing and memeing all day.
I want to do anything that gets you lynched quicker.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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this is literally the same awful post that dunn made except switching sick out for vedith.In post 412, PsychoticDave wrote:Also, if anyone proposes to Vedith, expect to be lynched.
i hate it.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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see, the thing that bothers me most about your posts vedith is the tone.In post 413, Vedith wrote:
This kid thinks he has any power.In post 412, PsychoticDave wrote:Also, if anyone proposes to Vedith, expect to be lynched.
You are with Gamma - Always gets lynched.
this reads as cocky and arrogant, like there's an air of superiority around you or something.
i will state, for the record, that your play has been the *worst* in the game, though not necessarily the scummiest.
you do not have a single goddamn thing worth feeling cocky or superior about. you have done nothing productive and have clogged up the thread with spammy, useless posts, all while acting like you're some king of townies.
that's the biggest reason why i and several others want to lynch you, i'd betShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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goddammit, maybe you are the scum after all.
human's done more work to explain their reads than most anybody else in the game.
you can't just magically make scumreads disappear by dismissing them outright. it doesn't work that way.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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between that and 412 i really am starting to dislike dave more and more. combine that with the fiasco from the first few pages as well because i'm not over that yet.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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sickofit, I accept your dance proposal
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fairly confident that the scum in the guys is between dunn and dave anyways, so.
@sick:i still want your answers to these thoughShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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there's a difference between acting superior whilst being vastly inferior and actually being superior.In post 448, Vedith wrote:
At least you've noticed my superiority.In post 439, Parama wrote:see, the thing that bothers me most about your posts vedith is the tone.
this reads as cocky and arrogant, like there's an air of superiority around you or something.
Normally takes overs a few more pages to understand it. Good job!
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it doesn't help that the last game i played with you, you lurked after replacing in then got nightkilled as scum
it came off as very weak play, so i put you in the bad player pile to begin with and you're definitely not clawing your way out of there with your performance here
also i second that dig should go with human, if only for the fact that human is probably the towniest player alive right now, and vedith the most uselessShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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the pot is doing that calling the kettle black thing again, someone shut it up alreadyIn post 462, Vedith wrote:I'm not going with DIG, However, you need to stop trying to look like scum Dave, I promise you that Parama isn't bright, and the scum with use it against you.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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