Open 669 - Nightless Vengeful Mayhem [Game Over]

[Revan]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is my first game where mafia has daytalk, so this is going to be interesting.

UNVOTE:

[Revan]

VOTE: Hawk

My name isn't misspelled.

[Revan]

Magma how much experience to you have with mafia?

[Revan]

Magma how much experience to you have with mafia?

What are your thoughts on the game?

Woah, hold your horses. I need some time to analyze my brother.

[Revan]

Magna ill get to your question sometime D1 i promise. but i have another question if you don't mind

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its a 3v2 lylo. the game is fairly inactive. would you townread someone pushing for activity?

[Revan]

Sometime D1 is right now, luckily

I need some information so I can analyze you

Are you still reluctant to answer my second question?

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[Revan]

This is going to be a hard time for lurkers, all you pro-activity guys and all.

I've almost established a framework for this game. These interactions are really, really SOUR.

[Revan]

@Lucca how much do you value transparency in town on a scale from 1-10?

I personally rank it at a solid 7.

[Revan]

Town: Lucca
Town lean: Magna
Null: Everybody else

[Revan]

I do agree Doom's LAMIST was out of place, however in hesitant to scumread him for it.

[Revan]

What makes them garbage?

[Revan]

Town: Lucca
Townlean: Magna, wgeurts
Null: Everybody else
Nullscum: Doom

[Revan]

I'm townreading wguerts because he is driving the game, and I can hardly find any slipups in his play. This would be very hard to accomplish as scum.

Lucca seems like a nice fellow, and his game-solving looks genuine. So I am townreading him too!

I will try and find scum now!

[Revan]

I feel like mozamis's 68 read is scum KNOWING it wasn't a gambit. Mozamis is definitely in my lynch pool for today, but I still want some content before voting.

[Revan]

I don't think we should analyze the DKs, it's just a waste of time.

[Revan]

It's non-productive. I never analyze NKs or DKs, they are just a bunch of WIFOM. We should just continue scumhunting.

[Revan]

What? From my point of view, Hawk could've been killed for a lot of reasons. Since we don't know what reason, it's useless bothering.

[Revan]

Sesq why are you voting Family and not one of your scumreads? Like mozamis?

[Revan]

Fine, you guys continue trying to solve the mystery. I just think it's really easy for scum to send town down the wrong trail here if we analyze too deeply.

[Revan]

If we don't analyze the DK, we won't be set on the wrong track. If scum is trying to influence town to mislynch, it's up to town to ignore the influence, and analyze each player. That's where I stand on this.

I do have previous experience on a non-mafia forum. Fortunately, some of them play here so I'm familiar with the terminology. They are also the reason I'm here!

[Revan]

However, it might lead to the non-lynching of a mafia member.

[Revan]

I guess you're right, it isn't any more likely.

I still refuse to partake in this shenanigans. :/

[Revan]

Hawk can you explain your vote on Sesq more in-depth? Thanks.

[Revan]

Wow, I'm a little bit embarrassed that I asked that. Moving on.

[Revan]

havingfitz are you caught up yet?

[Revan]

I never said it was a good place to look for scum, I just agreed with one of UD's statements which I will quote.

[Revan]

Anything might lead to a town lynch. How is DK analysis in particular more likely to lead to a town lynch?
-M

[Revan]

I do think wheurts and UD are genuinely game solving.

[Revan]

Be patient, we have time.

I'm working on it.

[Revan]

I intent to pressure havingfitz once he catches up, though. He seems really on the fence about everything, and his posts are odd.

[Revan]

There's at least 1 scum in {havingfitz, Sesq, Superhans}

[Revan]

Possibly FC too, going to reread ISO now.

[Revan]

Friend Computer, could you explain your motivation for voting karnos?

What type of question is this?

FC's ISO is bare. I don't think voting him will change this.

This is the best place for my vote to be.

VOTE: Superhans

[Revan]

I feel like there's decent pressure on everyone else, but superhans is doing pretty well for himself right now, and I'm going to change that.

[Revan]

@Superhans

what was your purpose with these questions?

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What makes Lucca a 'nice fellow'?
Does Wguert and UD's game-solving also appear genuine to you?

[Revan]

Super answer my question.

[Revan]

And the other question?

[Revan]

How would your game solving benefit from knowing how I judge people's reads?

[Revan]

Ok time to do this little Q&A that you've all been waiting for!

I feel like lucca's attitude towards this game is good, so that's why I made the side comment about him being a nice fellow. Because he is!

Wgeurt's game solving does appear genuine, so does UD. They are looking town!

There's at least one scum because I scumread all of them, or not townread them. (I'm a lot better at town-hunting than scum-hunting, so if I'm not townreading someone, it's usually a sign they're scum). All 3 could be there, but I don't think my reads are that good.

I feel like there's one question that I missed that I will look for now.

[Revan]

Nah, a couple of people answered the same question so I think I'm good now.

There has been some new content, especially from Superhans, so I'll get back to analyzing.

[Revan]

Slight scum read on Lucca as a response to his response to Hawks death, being 'wtf' and 'random' which seems like a dismissal of an attempt to consider motivation behind the kill.

Why are you applying a double standard to lucca & I? I'm also not considering motivation behind the kill.

[Revan]

Slight scum read on Lucca as a response to his response to Hawks death, being 'wtf' and 'random' which seems like a dismissal of an attempt to consider motivation behind the kill.

Why are you applying a double standard to lucca & I? I'm also not considering motivation behind the kill.

Considering you are Super's only listed scum read I'm not sure you can say that there is a double standard in play even if he didn't directly mention you ...

If he was actually town, he would mention me.

[Revan]

Am I the only one getting the too scummy to be scum vibe from FC?

[Revan]

I guess I was the only one getting the too scummy to be scum vibe...

VOTE: Superhans

[Revan]

My Superhans vote was because I'm not townreading him.

The Sesq flip does strengthen my read on him, because it narrows down my lynchpool.

[Revan]

You can't scumread the both of us.

[Revan]

I guess you'll can, if you think I'd bus Super as scumz

[Revan]

Super hand attacking me instead of defending himself is terrible.

This is scum, let's do this now.

[Revan]

He would try to tie you down to try and get you mislynched.

Or to try to appear town, that's what makes the most sense.

[Revan]

Why doesn't it hold water? He could've been trying for a mislynch, but then realized it was going to be really hard so then he went back on it.

[Revan]

UD why am I scum?

Going to do some analysis to fit and catch some scummiez.

[Revan]

V/LA until the 29th due to exams

[Revan]

I have a little time on my hands this weekend.

SH is looking better, UD is looking worse. Moz is town in my gut.

[Revan]

Going to try and write up a case on UD tomorrow if I have the time.

[Revan]

I've done a lot actually, just haven't put it down yet. I have a lot of stuff in my head.

[Revan]

Before I start making my mega posts, MOO referred to me as lynchbait. On my home site, I was mislynched a lot and I came here trying to improve that. Does anyone have any tips?

[Revan]

I am doing stuff in my head. I have reads, and I have opinions on who I think is scum. I just haven't gotten to a computer so I can share that with you guys.

[Revan]

I'm using my phone.

I can't put down my opinions right now because it's hard to type a lot, and format it all.

[Revan]

I want vote to moz right now, but I won't until I write up my reads.

[Revan]

I don't think UD will be lynched today, so...

[Revan]

We're approaching deadline. I'll lynch whoever I think is scum and has a good chance of being lynched, doesn't have to be my top scumread.

[Revan]

Get ready my friends, shit is about to hit the fan.

[Revan]

Going to try and write up a case on UD tomorrow if I have the time.

fuck this shit

vote revan

could be useless town.
but really he has done nothing all game. no inclination to find scum whatsoever.

scum revan, ud and fitz/hans

Scummy vote. I'm being wagoned, and moz mentions the possibility of me being useless town to go back on.

fuck it, I'm gonna give him points for trying, unlike almost everyone else.
Also, although annoying for me personally, I find his combative approach quite towny.

UNVOTE

Lets put some pressure on Mr. Bland:

VOTE LUCCA

This post is not coming from town.

[Revan]

UD why did you scumread FC? I noticed that you offered no explanation D1 when I was reading your ISO.

[Revan]

TOWN
Wgeurts
Lucca
MOI
Doom
UD
Fitz
Superhans
Moz
SCUM

[Revan]

Idk, 799 looks town to me...

VOTE: UD

[Revan]

TOWN
Wgeurts
Lucca
MOI
Doom
Superhans
Fitz
Moz
UD
SCUM

Upon rereading, UD's ISO is pretty bare. Not many stances, and no explained scumread on FC.

[Revan]

UD and Doom are two of the scum, I think.

[Revan]

UD answer my question before I answer yours.

[Revan]

Sorry I had to focus on another game, catching up.

[Revan]

Currently debating if MoI is scum or not.

[Revan]

Went 2/3, yay.

[Revan]

Busy with life.

I don't think town would've won anyway, I think lucca had us all finished.