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Kain you have to vote the hydra lmao.
I accidentally fucked up cuz I'm trying to get used to posting on a seperate acc
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Also I don't really like this shadethrowing. Personal insults aren't nice ;~;In post 18, James3 wrote:Okay I need to figure out if you're stupid, ignorant, or scum. So tell me ssbm, what if anything so you know about my game history?
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I know right! Grey didn't die for this shit!In post 25, Vifam wrote:Yeah that was pretty mean
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BTW Hi Kyouko.In post 16, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:sup nerds and LUV and Alisae head
ok that image has been quoted enough times now
I'm also a 1-shot cop so our roles directly conflict therefore I must destroy you
VOTE: James3
Also I am assuming that this is RVS?
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I think what Ali was asking was if you took James' claim seriously and seriously cc'ed him or if it was just a pile of bs being bandied about.In post 34, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:yeah LoX there can only be 1 1-shot cop
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Bolded = Ad hominemIn post 42, James3 wrote:In post 21, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I don't know anything about your games, we've never played together and I don't usually read completed games
Okay so you're simply ignorant/unaware, not unintelligent.
You see, I came here from the ToS Forum Mafia section. For about a year I played Mafia on that forum, and by the end I was without a doubt the most skilled active player there. Eventually the disparity was so vast that I had to be banned to keep things fair for the rest of the players (officially it was for abrasiveness, as many of their players suffer from SSS and my personality conflicted with that).
Anyway, I always claim day one (and yes it was serious, for those that didn't understand that), and press others for their claims. I do this for the purpose of analyzing the behavior of others to determine if they are scum or town. Already I'm picking apart your posts and those of others for a level of analysis that is probably higher than you could comprehend.
ToS Strategies don't work as well on here.
Also nice navy seal copy pasta.
Show me this analysis you got
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Pedit: nice OMGUS. Also probability is shit when most of the playerbase in this game hasn't posted.- Land of Xanth
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Um, it's the insults and attitude I am having a problem with. It looks bad. I don't care about the you're wrong or right. It looks as if you're purposely trying not to get along and you're trying to be anti-town.
And we don't do those claiming strategies here. Adapt.
And what probability bullshit. I can say the exact same thing from your behavoir. Grey's behavoir is based on his playstyle, so if you're calling his playstyle scummy, that in itself is scummy.
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You are terrible.In post 42, James3 wrote:Anyway, I always claim day one (and yes it was serious, for those that didn't understand that)
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Voting a claimed cop d-1 is bad. Don't be as bad as James.
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Play it? I can't even spell it.In post 53, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I didn't know you used to play Yu-Gi-Oh Grey.
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Wrong. Since you like meta so much, peruse http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69704In post 57, James3 wrote:And that Grey is unvoting me now that he realized it'll be hard to lynch me, only further shows that the push was opportunistic and therefore indicative of his being scum.
I claimed cop d-1. RainbowDash pushed me anyway. I lynched her and she flipped scum.
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Wrong. Since you like meta so much, peruse http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69704In post 57, James3 wrote:And that Grey is unvoting me now that he realized it'll be hard to lynch me, only further shows that the push was opportunistic and therefore indicative of his being scum.
I claimed cop d-1. RainbowDash pushed me anyway. I lynched her and she flipped scum.
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Yeah, I'll save you some time on your read. Start hereIn post 62, James3 wrote:So you're admitting that pushing cop claims is scummy. Would you like to add any other details to your confession?
Subject: Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.
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Want to find scum? Start with those who have pushed for my lynch todayIn post 1115, -Grey- wrote:Cop claims don't die d1 period, even if they're shitty claims.
Doing so denies town information if the claimer actually is a cop and actually does live through the night due to a protective role.
Only Scum has the need to see a cop claim lynched because not doing so forces you to shoot me and pray I'm not protected.aftermy claim.- Land of Xanth
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LolIn post 58, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I remember the monster in your avi getting banned just before I quit and people losing their shit
But I want you to talk to me about the gamestate. Cause your vote was sorta oppertunistic.
Why did you hop onto the wagon on James after he confirmed his claim was real?
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I voted him because I thought your CC was serious.In post 65, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Alisae head voted you iirc
I unvoted him because yours wasn't and his was.
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I'm tired of trying to talk to you because all you care about is sung your agenda down my throat instead of actually trying to sort me.In post 71, James3 wrote:
So rather than actually try to act in the best interest of the town, you are admitting that you were just trying to avoid being seen as scummy (and thus avoid being lynched).In post 66, Land of Xanth wrote:
Yeah, I'll save you some time on your read. Start hereIn post 62, James3 wrote:So you're admitting that pushing cop claims is scummy. Would you like to add any other details to your confession?
Subject: Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.
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Want to find scum? Start with those who have pushed for my lynch todayIn post 1115, -Grey- wrote:Cop claims don't die d1 period, even if they're shitty claims.
Doing so denies town information if the claimer actually is a cop and actually does live through the night due to a protective role.
Only Scum has the need to see a cop claim lynched because not doing so forces you to shoot me and pray I'm not protected.aftermy claim.
Go to hell.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't like it either, but I can see it being town motivated.In post 75, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I didn't like his vote for you after it was confirmed he wasn't trolling.In post 67, Land of Xanth wrote:
LolIn post 58, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I remember the monster in your avi getting banned just before I quit and people losing their shit
But I want you to talk to me about the gamestate. Cause your vote was sorta oppertunistic.
Why did you hop onto the wagon on James after he confirmed his claim was real?
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Why does him confirming his claim was real make you feel my vote was opportunistic? He's in no danger of being lynched and I don't have to believe his claim.
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Uzi, as much of a cancerous growth as some town may seem to be, it doesn't make them not town.
Move on from James and find someone else to vote, because the only people with any notice for killing a claimed cop on d1 is Scum.
I was voting James because there was a counter against him. End of story. My vote went away when the counter did. So should yours, or you can swing.
James is NK bait. That's all he's good for. Don't try to take that away from him.
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I don't think there is a framer in the game considering I don't believe the game is bastard. Hold on, let me check.In post 80, James3 wrote:I've given you a taste. That's sufficient.
Or does your framer need to know who I'm checking?
And I don't see how hiding analysis is pro town. If you genuinely believe in seeing my lynch at the end of the day, you'll pull out everything you got to get me lynched.
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Because the longer you make excuses for staying on his wagon, the stronger my scumread for your slot gets.In post 84, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why does it seem like you want me to move on so badly? My vote is where it is because he's my strongest scum read at the moment due to the current game state.In post 81, Land of Xanth wrote:Uzi, as much of a cancerous growth as some town may seem to be, it doesn't make them not town.
Move on from James and find someone else to vote, because the only people with any notice for killing a claimed cop on d1 is Scum.
I was voting James because there was a counter against him. End of story. My vote went away when the counter did. So should yours, or you can swing.
James is NK bait. That's all he's good for. Don't try to take that away from him.
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Both of the players that continued voting me after I claimed cop on d1 in the game I linked earlier were scum. Your behavior is lining up with theirs - RainbowDash (maf) & krylea (SK).
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This makes no sense to me. You're basicly saying that because he jumped on you after the cop claim makes him bad town? If so I guess that makes sense. If not, explain it to me like I am a pre-schooler.In post 80, James3 wrote:While unlikely, there is a greater probability that they are just a bad town player (how experienced is Uzi btw?) than there is for you. I've seen townies jump on existing wagons in ways that appear to be scum opportunistic before, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility, although doing it to a cop claim would require a profound lack of skill from a town member. OTOH, I see basically no way that you're town.
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Pedit2: Eh yeah I guess I can agree with you
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He said it was real.In post 87, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Tone. I'm not sure how to describe the feeling in words but his use of the word immediately makes me believe the claim isn't real. I didn't like the way he seemed to try to lead the town in something that could come back to bite us in the ass.In post 83, Land of Xanth wrote:I buy it because he's probably used to that kind of stuff. Basicly I think it's based off of his playstyle.
Why don't you buy it? What about the way he did it do you not buy about it?
To me you're coming across as avoiding the question
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I quoted him saying it was real.
He wants to own the claim, it's his barring an actual cc.
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Well Grey jumped on you after the cop claim as well. So did Kyouko and Camm. Does that make us all scum? Does that make us VI? What makes or breaks the difference between being VI and/or being scum in this case?In post 93, James3 wrote:Because he jumped on me after the cop claim, he's very probably scum. But there's an offchance of him being a VI, and that offchance is greater for him than it is for you.
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Hydra slipped again #ripIn post 96, Alisae wrote:Like you claimed here.
So is everyone VI and/or Scum for voting you after this post 7?
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I would also like to add that by this logic, me and grey are newbs.In post 101, Tywin Lannister wrote:His join date makes me think newbscum.
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Oh really? Cause Kyouko says exactly what he was trying to accomplish with his vote here:In post 105, James3 wrote:
Kyouko's vote and fake CC could've been a town-motivated reaction test. It doesn't indicate either alignment for him. Grey is more clearly scum than Uzi or Comm because he made bad faith arguments along with his vote, that highly contraindicates being newbsheep. Uzi and Comm are both basically in the same boat, though I'd scumread Uzi a bit more because he's obstinate, whereas newbsheep usually will retract after being called out.In post 95, Land of Xanth wrote:
Well Grey jumped on you after the cop claim as well. So did Kyouko and Camm. Does that make us all scum? Does that make us VI? What makes or breaks the difference between being VI and/or being scum in this case?In post 93, James3 wrote:Because he jumped on me after the cop claim, he's very probably scum. But there's an offchance of him being a VI, and that offchance is greater for him than it is for you.
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He also stated it was RVS earlier.In post 38, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:No I didn't take his claim seriously nor is my claim serious, it was a joke vote
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My point is he said it was a joke and you read it as a reaction test, but the fact that you decide to descredit me as well as throw shade at me instead of attempting to fight the arguement is shitty.
And this is a hydra. If you are reading Grey's play as scummy, how do you read the Alisae's head play as?
Also give me a reason to believe you aren't conf biasing us.
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James has been here long enough to be a game moderator, so no, he doesn't get that kind of leeway.In post 112, Zekromaster wrote:For now, from what I've read, either LoX or James is scum, but James has some chance of just being used to another meta. As an occasional ToS and IRL player, there it's pretty common to massclaim even on D1, as the "day" phase lasts like 3 to 5 minutes, so you can't get some "serious" discussion on, and falseclaiming is made more difficult by the fact that you have less time to "organize" yourself.
I did the same error on my first game here (for some background: I had to replace out on IIRC D2, because IRL stuff happening, and after that I left the site for some time. I don't even consider that game in my site's "Mafia Experience" section), of reasoning like I was actually playing "IRL Mafia/ToS with longer messages".
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I spy with my little eye... a PerV!
About time you got in here.
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No, he's not. And his claim is a magnet for scum votes.In post 130, Vifam wrote:He's not a good lynch today regardless tho
Between Comm and Uzi, Comm looks worse in his push. Uzi's vote remains on him out of laziness at this point from what I've read, but I would be suspicious if he didn't remove it if James' wagon actually got traction.
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Tywin, what do you make of Pepto saying James is not the Lynch today but continuing to poke at him?
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Do you seriously think for half a second that there isn't a second investigative role if you're a 1-shot cop?In post 165, James3 wrote:Okay, so Comm is confirmed scum.
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If he really were cop he would've immediately CCed.
This shit is redonkulous. No investigative claims are getting lynched on day fucking one.
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Go for it, Sparky.In post 169, CommKnight wrote:
You know, I actually really want to check the hyrdra's role. Just because of how defensive they've been of a 1-shot cop. I've already claimed the pointlessness of a 1-shot and now I've even CC'd.In post 167, Land of Xanth wrote:
Do you seriously think for half a second that there isn't a second investigative role if you're a 1-shot cop?In post 165, James3 wrote:Okay, so Comm is confirmed scum.
UNVOTE: Xanth
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If he really were cop he would've immediately CCed.
This shit is redonkulous. No investigative claims are getting lynched on day fucking one.
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Now, I can believe there's other investigatives out there, but a cop? Maybe, maybe not. A 1-shot cop at that? Hell no. I'm sticking to my guns with this one. I can believe a Tracker, a Watcher or some other claim. But 1-shot. Nope, he receives the bullet train to the noose today.
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You are projecting what you would so in a given scenario as what anyone do in that same scenario.In post 174, James3 wrote:If he were really a role cop, and he really believed that was incompatible with me being a 1-Shot Cop, he would have claimed it immediately. He didn't, ergo he's lying.
That is bad. Stop it.
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Edit.In post 175, Land of Xanth wrote:
You are projecting what you would do in a given scenario as what anyone would do in that same scenario.In post 174, James3 wrote:If he were really a role cop, and he really believed that was incompatible with me being a 1-Shot Cop, he would have claimed it immediately. He didn't, ergo he's lying.
That is bad. Stop it.
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Watson: No shit sherlockIn post 152, James3 wrote:
I fakeclaim as scum obviously.In post 151, PeregrineV wrote:
What do you claim if you are scum?In post 148, James3 wrote:I always claim day one. It provides ample information for me to read people off of.
Sherlock: Push harder Watson.
What role would you fakeclaim as scum?
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PercyIn post 163, Vifam wrote:How are you guys playing Yu gi oh when dueling network shutdown
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You missed the because porition to this sentence.In post 168, Vifam wrote:Comm is obv town here though
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Hi my name is James I really like pre-flip association and saying people are scum without using maxium effort to attempt to get them lynch.In post 177, James3 wrote:Grey is really trying hard to save his scumbuddy.
See, I don't believe you truely think you think that your scumreads are scum. If you truely thought that your scumreads were scum, you would push them as hard as you can. You've shown disinterest in doing this and you're being very lazy about pushing your scumreads.
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The Ali head personally thinks he's just playing badly.In post 182, Vifam wrote:Yeah I don't like James OMGUSING everyone that calls him out, when he said he always claims D1 for reactions I expected more but I don't see any reads so far that go deeper than "he thinks im scum"
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