Open 678 - White Flag GAME OVER!

[Pine]

Pine, Transcend, and BTD are the scum team.

Gin told me so.

Oh man, that's an exciting team!

BTD is lynchbait, Transcend is fun to lynch, and Pine is gonna roll us!

Fantastic!

Gawrsh.

My primary goal in life is to become a D1 policy lynch because people are so fucking paranoid.

[Pine]

VOTE: nancy

Pansied out of playing because she's scared of me.

I can't count this vote

[Pine]

Hey Ari, are you Town?

[Pine]

VOTE: Trans
obv
-Ali

What about his maybe a townslip?

Nah.

oh this started

i didn't get a pm

VOTE: frogisae

This might be though. Post 1 role PMs tell me that scum don't have daytalk, so he wouldn't have actually thought day had started. It could be a fabricated tell, but I'm leaning towards it being real.

[Pine]

@Gin - Mod advice: People don't see edits into their posts. Why would they go back to look for them? Usually better to quote a reply. And obv it was a fake vote.

[Pine]

Gonna show Firebringer how to actually drop a Vote Count >_>

Fire, do me a solid and fite this sucka

[Pine]

Real. I don't do RVS votes.

So you're announcing a scumread on Fire?
Okay why.
-Ali

65 felt forced.

Maybe. Still, we aren't lynching Fire until he fites Gin.

[Pine]

VOTE: Fire

Foudn the first scummo

[Pine]

VOTE: Fire

Foudn the first scummo

You were supposed to answer me in the PT.

Sorry bb my bad

[Pine]

Okay then, why does forced = scummy, Luv?

Because basic mafia theory.

[Pine]

I claim Scum.
Please hammer.

Such salt.

I think I buy it.

UNVOTE:

Drinking right now. I think I'll examine that whole run up to L-1 in the AM.

[Pine]

Yeah, this is happening:

VOTE: Siblings

Nascent Town bloc: Ari, Fire, Trans, me.

[Pine]

Let's lynch before midnight please, kthx.

It's already 1:23 AM. Move to a civilized time zone, barbarian.

[Pine]

NOT SO PAGE TOP VOTE COUNT

NOT SO EASY! IS IT!?!?!?

Scoring the fite:

Fire: 1
Gin: 0

[Pine]

Hi.

I'm Scum.

Scum wifom!
-Ali

How can a confession be WIFOM?

Because of that very question. Thank you for playing along, let the grownups scumhunt plzkthx

[Pine]

Third vote count

Fire: 1
Gin: -1

[Pine]

HI EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE !!!!!


VOTE: FIREBRINGER

he said he was talking in the scum PT!!

Oh fuck, Kain?

GOT THE PAGE TOP

damn, fail snipe.

Fire: 1
Gin: 0

[Pine]

Riley, no offense. But I am probably going to ignore every post you make and everything you do for my own sanity.

Yup. Kain and Kain imitators can fuck right off. Reminds me of Deity Kabuto (holy shit blast from the past there).

I'm sticking on scum suspect Siblings right now, but if I don't have a solid suspect after they're dead, I'm defaulting to a policy vote on the troll.

[Pine]

Riley, no offense. But I am probably going to ignore every post you make and everything you do for my own sanity.

Yup. Kain and Kain imitators can fuck right off. Reminds me of Deity Kabuto (holy shit blast from the past there).

I'm sticking on scum suspect Siblings right now, but if I don't have a solid suspect after they're dead, I'm defaulting to a policy vote on the troll.

Kain's the best mafia player of all time though

No. Do not encourage this.

[Pine]

Kain should write wiki articles about how to hunt scum.

Only so those articles may be burned, and their ashes buried in the deepest ocean trenches.

I legit now think Siblings is scum with Riley and that they are trying to force some distance right here.

anyone sharing this thoughts at all?

I'm not seeing the associative as strongly as you are. Kain/Riley's chief sin is a complete irrationality, which makes any kind of reading frustrating. A Siblings scumflip would progress to a Riley lynch though.

VOTE: Riley Cake

I am also taking a break. It's bed time.

[Pine]

Midnight with no Lynch.

I has a sad.

You put the Sword of the Morning back right this instant.

[Pine]

What do you think are the chances that he's town overblowing your interactions with Siblings?

Maybe he is!!! But maybes are for babies and I'm a big girl!!! It's more likely that he's just scum!!!

Oh now you're just posturing.
VOTE: Riley Cake
-Ali

This is opportunistic.

Okay, going to bed for real now

[Pine]

I should be in bed (it's 2:15 AM, I get up at 6 AM for work), don't have time to read this game and even if I did I'm honestly not sure where my priority game-wise would be but: as panicked as I was to see red in my PM, I'm town.
As a result, instead of playing optimally, I get to do what I deem best.

VOTE: Pine.
Because let's face it.
Pine's going to MAGNIFICENTLY bus one scumbuddy, and then keep his other scumbuddy alive, cruising to victory off of it. He may or may not pull the white flag gambit, bussing his second scumbuddy, but he'll manage to avert their death and pull out the win from the towncred Pine will get in lynching his scumbuddy.

As for why Pine is scum...
...Well, he's always scum.

Mastina, I don't bus. I dare you to find a counterexample that doesn't involve a guilty or something in the last three years. You know better.

Scumbuddies are way too valuable a resource to squander. I can get Towncred lots of other ways, just by talking.

U scum sis?

Can we lynch Riley?

No. We're lynching scum Siblings, not executing a PL right now.

[Pine]

Aww.

Mastina.

I am disappoint.

Why can't we ever be Town together? I swear, we need to keep going until we pull Mason together, and then we'll just wreck shit.

But you scum girl. Sorry.

VOTE: Mastina

Town bloc, to meeeeeee!

(Also, I'm TRing Grey pretty solid now too. Some games you win by scumhunting, some by Townhunting. This one it's both!)

[Pine]

I again wish I was scum.

Scum with you and Trans would be really fun.

Alas.

I don't read transcend as possible scum with you or cake and my reads on both you two are much stronger than my weak scum pings from transcend.

FUCKING. TAUNTING. ME.

Swear to god you guys are legitimately shitting on me intentionally.

IT'S LIKE THIS GAME IS ACTUALLY SECRETLY THE SEQUEL TO CAMN'S REVENGE AND GIN IS LAUGHING MANIACALLY AS HE WATCHES YOU SLAUGHTER US AGAIN.

Like.
Aristophanes is town.
I am town.
Pine is scum.
Gin, the slighted player, is the mod.

PERFECT. SETUP.
Transcend is Aeronaut.
Firebringer is SirCakez.
And Pine is fucking Pine, except I can actually lynch him this time.

BUT I WON'T GET TO.
BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING PINE.

It DOES feel like the sequel, but it ISN'T. Notably, I'm Town and you're scum.

Pine/Mastina feels TVT to me

This feels like a Townpost. Wrong, but Townposting.

Spoiler: /me does the catching up

So was Trans.

but he stopped!!!!! the reason why policy lynches are scummy is cos it doesn't really help town find mafia!!!! it's just an excuse to bully people for talking different!!!! if someone is scum and pushing a policy lynch it's cos they wanna kill a townie for free!!!!! but if transy stopped, then he can't be scum who pushes a policy lynch, right?

So he stopped pushing a PL, therefore he's town...This doesn't make sense to me, sorry ;~; What else makes you think Trans is town?

i've learned that btd is the biggest lynchbait this website will ever see

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE

VOTE: mastina

Good vote btw.

I should be in bed (it's 2:15 AM, I get up at 6 AM for work), don't have time to read this game and even if I did I'm honestly not sure where my priority game-wise would be but: as panicked as I was to see red in my PM, I'm town.
As a result, instead of playing optimally, I get to do what I deem best.

VOTE: Pine.
Because let's face it.
Pine's going to MAGNIFICENTLY bus one scumbuddy, and then keep his other scumbuddy alive, cruising to victory off of it. He may or may not pull the white flag gambit, bussing his second scumbuddy, but he'll manage to avert their death and pull out the win from the towncred Pine will get in lynching his scumbuddy.

As for why Pine is scum...
...Well, he's always scum.

this is a terrible vote mastina.

Good posting.

I should be in bed (it's 2:15 AM, I get up at 6 AM for work), don't have time to read this game and even if I did I'm honestly not sure where my priority game-wise would be but: as panicked as I was to see red in my PM, I'm town.
As a result, instead of playing optimally, I get to do what I deem best.

VOTE: Pine.
Because let's face it.
Pine's going to MAGNIFICENTLY bus one scumbuddy, and then keep his other scumbuddy alive, cruising to victory off of it. He may or may not pull the white flag gambit, bussing his second scumbuddy, but he'll manage to avert their death and pull out the win from the towncred Pine will get in lynching his scumbuddy.

As for why Pine is scum...
...Well, he's always scum.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE MAKING RVS VOTES ON PAGE 15!!!!!!!!!

True but you're still scum.

UNVOTE:
i quit the site if riley's scum and i don't policy lynch him d1

What's up with the sudden turnaround?
-Ali

It's because Transcend is scum.

Explain this to me, because honestly I see scum moreso wanting to stick to their guns here.

Mastina why is Pine scum again?
-Ali

Fear. Scum!Mastina is like "Fuck fuck fuck Pine's gonna wreck me oh noeeeess."

@Pine - Was the Mastina vote based off of 344 or an RV? Feel like I'm missing something here.

What the fuck is an RV?

Scumteam is {Siblings, Mastina, <someone not Fire, Trans, or Grey, prob not TB>}. I've played upwards of two dozen games with, against, and/or hydra'd with Mastina. We can pretty much soulread each other at this point, and we're definitely not on the same team. Since my role PM says I'm Town, that means she's scum.

TL;DR - It's her whole ISO so far. She comes out the gate with an immediate full frontal assault on me to eliminate a threat, works on breaking up the nascent Town bloc, and effectively dismantled a solid wagon on scum!Siblings. She scum, take it to the bank.

[Pine]

...Too soon?

[Pine]

I'm here, I'm here. Gin prodded me and I replied by PM, then gently prodded me again. I've been sick and dumping time into Darkest Dungeon, which Andrius bewitched me into buying. I've sworn it off for a couple of days (unlikely) to focus here.

[Pine]

What'd I miss?

[Pine]

Gin called me a 'daft wonderbread' in my prod. How rude.

[Pine]

(>'-')> <('-'<) ^('-')^ v('-')v(>'-')> (^-^)

[Pine]

Dunno. I haven't really read any of it.

Can we lynch Siblings yet?

[Pine]

moar prodge

[Pine]

Titus ewww

[Pine]

Get this game out of D1 and I'll be on board

[Pine]

Titus ewww

So you are capable of engagement. Why not?

Because 60+ pages and apathy.

I suck at D1, lady-bro. It's really easy for me to not give a shit until D2.

Sigh.

Sorry. I'll try to be more engaged. For Gin, if no one else.

[Pine]

to everyone not voting tojam, who would you rather lynch and why

(outright opinion, do not worry about likelihood of it happening

You. Mostly for this post. Looks like scum trying to secure ML before a counterwagon gains traction.

Also Mastina and Siblings, because fuck them, I found scum in the first couple of pages then checked out.

[Pine]

Dude, fuck if I know. I'm barely skimming.

[Pine]

Love to Gin

[Pine]

Pine what're your thoughts on TB?

Shrug. What thoughts would you like me to have?

[Pine]

Shrug. Imma ISO

[Pine]

TB looks pretty righteous to me, Trans.

[Pine]

Hey senpine.
Can you do me a favor and read my case on TB?
I posted references to said case in 1378 and also added 1468 and every time I refereed to 1468 I got crickets.
-Ali

Pass. I just ISO'd TB and he looks fine. Plus you're scum, so pass double.

I've played a bunch with TB and hydra'd with him. This looks like his Towngame.

[Pine]

1) Nah.
2) Mastina and Siblings.

It just does.
Because you are.

[Pine]

Really Pine?
I'm scum just because I am?
Come'on! I thought you know better then that.
-Ali

I have real reasons. I just don't feel like explaining myself right now. I'm on my way to a play with the wife an phoneposting

[Pine]

Let's hear from Nancy first. Can't conclude it won't happen without hearing from more people.

Also if TB doesn't work out, I'd much rather kill someone in the lurkerish-unreadable category (BTD, momo, toejam) than someone ranging and tilted in the thread (Mastina).

This is kinda a scumpost. Level of activity should not factor in your reads, much less be the basis for them. Could also be rank newbie tho

[Pine]

Also don't capitalize nancy's name. Agency and self-determination, huzzah!

[Pine]

Titus I forget are we friends this game?

[Pine]

Hey guy, do me a favor and cut the attitude. You don't know me. I don't know you. I do, however, see your post count. It isn't unreasonable to wonder at your level of experience.

Also, past performance is a poor predictor of the future. It's a pretty common newbie and semi-newbie error to assume that because they were right in the past that they're right now. Let the facts speak for themselves.

Finally, kindly cram it. I have the experience and skill to get away with early game quirkiness. When shit gets real, I'll be on task.

[Pine]

Do you like the Titus wagon, Pine?

Lukewarm. I vaguely recall having a TR on her, a vague TR isn't enough for me to fight for her. I could read up on it. Anything in particular you'd like to point me to?

[Pine]

Lol this guy thinks he knows me

Just because I'm not tryharding isn't a good reason to get bent out of shape. Overreactive defensiveness is scummy too, guy

[Pine]

I'm sorry Pine. Let's be friends.

Pass. Getting a scum vibe from you. Discrediting me didn't work because you didn't do your homework on who you were dealing with, so I don't care to be flattered.

Another game, maybe.

[Pine]

IM SO ANNOYED

Use your words like a big boy, Trans.

Who's on Titus right now?

[Pine]

Wait a sec. Titus replaced Fire, and her wagon is Tojam, Mastina, nancy-kohai, and lurkers? Fuck no that slot is Town. Lynch her and we start systematically lynching from that wagon

PEdit: Still pass. I do my own work and I do it at my own pace. Having a fit about your case isn't making me want to read it. It just heightens my suspicions
PEdit2: INORITE? I did my own research after petulantly asking you. Did not realize Titus replaced obvTown Fire, I think I was conflating another game with Titus, maybe NY199. We've played together a bunch lately.

[Pine]

VOTE: hapahauli

Hey let's do this first.

nancy you're on record as suspecting Hap. Switch over and you can make Trans and I happy, save a Townie, and also lynch actual scum. It's full of win.

[Pine]

Ali, sheep me and we can talk about getting a re-read on your slot

[Pine]

UNVOTE:

I was thinking hapa was someone's alt, but that's a major newbietell. I'm willing to reset and re-evaluate based on that.

[Pine]

Newbies have different tells and different thought processes. More jaded players who have been around a while are more immersed in site meta and patterns. Those don't apply to you, and you need to be assessed differently.

[Pine]

Oh right this game is still a thing.

VOTE: mastina

[Pine]

VOTE: Siblings

Reasons

[Pine]

Why are we not lynching Siblings yet. Stop being lame.

[Pine]

You think I could be paranoid about the Pine slot?
Like he's not even doing things anymore.
Idunno I'm just worried because i'm scared of Pine.
-Ali

For the record, this is why Ali is scum. Early game (not talking about recent OMGUS) Ali lashed out and worked at discrediting people he saw as threats. That's a scum move.

[Pine]

*re-lurk*

[Pine]

My meta makes me a confident player. Your skepticism makes you weak.

[Pine]

My gut tells me tojam is who scum want us to lynch.

[Pine]

Wait what. I are prodded despite posting on this page.

Sorry, Mass Effect Andromeda came out yesterday

[Pine]

Whoa hey what the fuck. I stop playing Mass Effect for five minutes to check in here and prod dodge and you jackasses have me at L-1?

Et tu, Trans?

[Pine]

btw lynching Pine was fun.

Yeah, I imagine lynching an empty slot is often fun.

I was a crapsack this game. No excuse.