Creature's Large Normal Review

Creature · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:12 pm

Btw, my original setup also included a Town Odd-Night Neapolitan and a Town 2-shot Bulletproof besides Tow Non-Consecutive Doctor being Town Non-Consecutive Target Doctor.

Creature · Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:04 am

Remove the traitor and replace it with a Vanilla Town?

Creature · Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:29 am

Okay, 20-player it is then.

Btw, do you review rules? I think some of them are good looking at.

Creature · Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:17 am

Creature wrote:Opening post:

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Spoiler: Events

Rules:

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Follow the site rules here.

Play to win.

Be respectful.

Be active.

If you have questions about your role, ask them by PM.

Don't:

Don't discuss ongoing games.

Don't copy, quote or screenshot your role PM, mod communications or anything that isn't public.

Don't pretend to break the rules.

Don't use very small, invisible or encrypted text.

Don't use shades of blue.

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Deadlines

Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.

Nights will last 2 (real life) days.

Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.

If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.

I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags. Bolded votes won't be counted.

You may also vote nolynch.

A majority is reached if more than half the players have voted the same player/nolynch.

If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched. If there's a tie, the first player to have reached that number of votes will be lynched. If no player got higher than 2 votes, the day will end in a nolynch.
P.S.: I won't edit your posts.

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Activity Points

This game uses Activity Points mechanism, based on callforjudgement's Timepoint mechanism.

Every player starts with 5 activity points. 5 activity points is the maxium ammount of activity points you can have.

If you don't post for 48 hours, you lose 2 activity points.

If you don't post for 72 hours (24 hours after prod), I'll start searching your replacement and you'll lose one additional activity point.

If you hit 0 activity points, you're going to be force-replaced.

When the dayphase ends, if you haven't been prodded, you'll gain 3 activity points. Otherwise you'll only gain one.

Calling V/LA

V/LAs must be called by PM and must be specified.

Not-Real Deal (NRD) V/LAs:
Little less posting than usual. Your prod time will be extended to 72 hours (24 will stay the same). Every 3 days will cost one activity point.

Real Deal (RD) V/LAs:
Near to zero posting. You won't be prodded at all until your time ends. The activity points cost will be (days-2)/2 rounded down.

You may also consider replacing out.
Note: You may replace back to your slot, as long your activity points didn't go down to 0.

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Daytalk is active.

This game uses plurality lynch mechanism.

This game has the potential to be swingy.

Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM
Vanilla TownieWelcome, X. You are a
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You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

I'd like this reviewed for normalcy.
At balance, just make sure it isn't notably favorable for a side.
I don't mind this game being swingy. (maybe I should tell that this game has a potential of being swingy)
I don't have backup mods yet.

I changed it a bit. (Including taking away one slot)

Creature · Post Post #12 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:20 am

21 players

Town One-Guilty Cop
Town 2-shot Vigilante
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante
Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Town Innocent Neighbor
Town Neighbor
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Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
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Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Vanilla Town

Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop

Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Spoiler: Town Neighbor

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

Notes:

Town One-Guilty Cop will only stop functioning if it gets a guilty result. Even if it targets scum, a "no result" result won't count.
Town 2-shot Vigilante won't be refunded shots if its action fails.
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante will die if it targets scum and isn't stopped. If rolestopped, it won't die. If target doctored, it will die.
Town Innocent Neighbor can't be roleblocked at all.
Mafia Gunsmith will get positive on Town One-Guilty Cop, Town 2-shot Vigilante, Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante and on anyone from the mafia team.
Mafia Rolestopper may rolestop their own factional kills. AKA Mafia Rolestopper + Mafia Factional Kill on the same target = Fail.

Creature · Post Post #13 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:20 am

*20 players

Creature · Post Post #14 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:24 am

I'm planning to announce this game in the Upcoming Games thread.

What info should I disclose?

I have so far:
Daytalk is active.
Plurality lynch mechanism.

I'm wondering if I should put:
Potential to be swingy

I don't really want to say the alignment distribution, I want to feed the possibility of there being an SK or it being multiball.

Creature · Post Post #16 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:09 am

I can allow bolded votes as long it isn't in the middle of a sentence.

Creature · Post Post #17 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:10 am

And if someone drops a vote, they still count as "reached the number of votes first"

Creature · Post Post #18 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:13 am

How would you word the no shades of blue rule? It uses more than one shade of blue.

Maybe make: "Don't post posts entirely blue"?

Creature · Post Post #19 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:17 am

I got an alternative for Activity Points:

The first time you are prodded, you'll get a warning. If after 24 hours you don't post, I'll search for your replacement.
If you're prodded twice in the same day (barring D1), I'll straight out force-replace you.
Being prodded three times mean automatically force-replace.
If you're not prodded for two entirely dayphases, you'll have one prod discounted from your total.
Calling V/LA: Prods after 72 hours without posting rather than 48 hours. Please, don't abuse V/LAs.

Creature · Post Post #20 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:18 am

In post 15, mastina wrote:"If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched"

Seems fine.

Creature · Post Post #22 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:18 am

Though, say a player is at 4 votes and another player gets put to 4 votes, wouldn't it be confusing?

Creature · Post Post #23 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:23 am

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

Creature · Post Post #24 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:44 am

20 players

Town One-Guilty Cop
Town 2-shot Vigilante
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante
Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Town Innocent Neighbor
Town Neighbor
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Vanilla Town
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Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia Goon
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Spoiler: Vanilla Town

Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop

Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Spoiler: Town Neighbor

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

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Town One-Guilty Cop will only stop functioning if it gets a guilty result. Even if it targets scum, a "no result" result won't count.
Town 2-shot Vigilante won't be refunded shots if its action fails.
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante will die if it targets scum and isn't stopped. If rolestopped, it won't die. If target doctored, it will die.
Town Innocent Neighbor can't be roleblocked at all.
Mafia Gunsmith will get positive on Town One-Guilty Cop, Town 2-shot Vigilante, Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante and on anyone from the mafia team.
Mafia Rolestopper may rolestop their own factional kills. AKA Mafia Rolestopper + Mafia Factional Kill on the same target = Fail.

Creature · Post Post #25 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:42 am

In post 15, mastina wrote:I also would drop the 2 votes clause from plurality. If you want plurality, you should consistently enforce it across the whole game. Don't give players an out.

idk, it's possible for the players to stay the entire day not voting anyone or the day to end with no wagons.

Creature · Post Post #29 (isolation #16) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:55 am

Slight change to opening post:

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Spoiler: Events

Creature · Post Post #30 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:57 am

Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Btw, you may check for bad spellings.

Creature · Post Post #31 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:16 am

Rules with some modifications:

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Follow the site rules here.
Play to win.
Be respectful.
Be active.
If you have questions about your role, ask them by PM.

Don't:

Don't discuss ongoing games.
Don't copy, quote or screenshot your role PM, mod communications or anything that isn't public.
Don't pretend to break the rules.
Don't use very small, invisible or encrypted text.
Don't write your posts almost entirely with shade of blue (
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Deadlines

Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags, like VOTE: Someone.
You may instead bold your vote. However, they must be isolated in one paragraph.
You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched. If there's a tie, the first player to have reached that number of votes will be lynched. If no player got higher than 2 votes, the day will end in a nolynch.

P.S.: I won't edit your posts.

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Prods

If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1), I'll automatically search for your replacement. You can't return to your slot.
If you were to receive your third prod, you'll be force-replaced. You will be unable to return to your slot.
I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.

V/LAs and Replacing

V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile (https://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings) because I may miss them.
By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 72 hours rather than 48 hours.
If you absolutely can't post anything for over 72 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.

Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.

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This game uses plurality lynch mechanism.
This game has the potential to be swingy.

Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM

Creature · Post Post #32 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:30 am

Btw, I'd like some review on the upcoming announcement:

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Creature · Post Post #33 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:33 am

Actually I got a better PM:

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Feel free to change the spelling.

Creature · Post Post #34 (isolation #21) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:40 am

I forgot to fix it here:

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags, like VOTE: Someone.
You may instead bold your vote. However, they must be isolated in one paragraph.
You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
If there's a tie, the player who was going to be lynched most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.

Creature · Post Post #35 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:54 am

One-Guilty Cop: Can X make me lose my ability?
"No matter what happens to you, if you don't explicitly receive a

Guilty

result, you'll still function.
2-shot Vigilante: If my action doesn't succeed, will I receive my ability back?
"No"
Weak Vigilante: If X happens, will I still die?
"If your action succeeds, even if your target doesn't die, you'll die, as long it's on scum"
Weak Vigilante: Can X prevent me from dying?
"Yes, you can be saved from dying"
Town Non-Consecutive Doctor: If a bodyguard protects my target, what happens if the target is attacked?
"The bodyguard" (After all, the doctor only saves after the target was shot, the bodyguard saves when the target is about to be shot)
Town Innocent Neighbor: Can my action be blocked?
"No"
Mafia Gunsmith: If I target a mafia JOAT with a doctor ability, will I see them with a gun?
"Yes"
Mafia Rolestopper: If I rolestop and kill the same target, will my kill be stopped?
"Yes"

idk, there are many questions that I may receive.

Creature · Post Post #36 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:00 am

Refixed and added another clause:

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags, like VOTE: Someone.
You may instead bold your vote. However, they must be isolated in one paragraph.
You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.

Creature · Post Post #37 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:01 am

Is it necessary or recommended to say that role PMs will be flipped?

Also, maybe I should warn mafia and neighborhood that their PTs will be released as soon game ends.

Creature · Post Post #41 (isolation #25) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:31 am

All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or

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. If it looks like a vote, it'll be counted.

Creature · Post Post #42 (isolation #26) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:31 am

Anything else?

Creature · Post Post #44 (isolation #27) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:26 am

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Spoiler: Events

Creature · Post Post #45 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:38 am

It'd look like this throughout the game:

Players	Status	Role	Death
TwoFace	Alive
Nexus	Alive
BTD6_Maker	Alive
RadiantCowbells	Alive
Empking	Dead	Town Compulsive Doctor	Killed N1
mastina	Dead	Mafia Goon	Killed N1
Raskolnikov	Dead	Vanilla Town	Lynched D1

Spoiler: Events

Creature · Post Post #46 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:44 am

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Don't discuss ongoing games.
Don't copy, quote or screenshot your role PM, mod communications or anything that isn't public.
Don't pretend to break the rules.
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Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or
vote: Someone
. If it looks like a vote, it'll be counted.
You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.

P.S.: I won't edit your posts.

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If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1), I'll automatically search for your replacement. You can't return to your slot.
If you were to receive your third prod, you'll be force-replaced. You will be unable to return to your slot.
I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.

V/LAs and Replacing

V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile (https://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings) because I may miss them.
By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 72 hours rather than 48 hours.
If you absolutely can't post anything for over 72 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.

Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.

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This game has the potential to be swingy.

Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM

Creature · Post Post #47 (isolation #30) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:45 am

Maybe the "This game has the potential to be swingy." should be removed.

Creature · Post Post #48 (isolation #31) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:54 am

20 players

Town One-Guilty Cop
Town 2-shot Vigilante
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante
Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Town Innocent Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town

Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Vanilla Town

Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop

Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Spoiler: Town Neighbor

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

Notes:

Town One-Guilty Cop will only stop functioning if it gets a guilty result. Even if it targets scum, a "no result" result won't count.
Town 2-shot Vigilante won't be refunded shots if its action fails.
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante will die if it targets scum and isn't stopped. If rolestopped, it won't die. If target doctored, it will die.
Town Innocent Neighbor can't be roleblocked at all.
Mafia Gunsmith will get positive on Town One-Guilty Cop, Town 2-shot Vigilante, Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante and on anyone from the mafia team.
Mafia Rolestopper may rolestop their own factional kills. AKA Mafia Rolestopper + Mafia Factional Kill on the same target = Fail.

Creature · Post Post #49 (isolation #32) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:55 am

Should I rename the Town One-Guilty Cop to Town One Hit Cop?

Creature · Post Post #50 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:00 am

How each role is flipped:

Spoiler: Vanilla Town

Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop

Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Spoiler: Town Neighbor

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

Creature · Post Post #51 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:11 am

Town One-Guilty CopYou received an

Innocent

result on X.

You received an

Guilty

result on X.

You received no result.

Mafia GunsmithYou received a

Positive

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You received a

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You received no result.

Town Innocent NeighborX is aligned with the

Town

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DeathYou died! However, you may still talk here.

Creature · Post Post #52 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:20 am

Does "You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring." sounds singleball?

Should I change it to "You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring."?

Creature · Post Post #55 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:43 am

Spoiler: Day 1 VC

Spoiler: When night starts

Spoiler: Kills during the night

Creature · Post Post #56 (isolation #37) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:48 am

Updating...

In post 48, Creature wrote:
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Rolestopper
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Rolestopper
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night. You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

In post 50, Creature wrote:How each role is flipped:

Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night. You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Creature · Post Post #57 (isolation #38) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:57 am

Oh right, I forgot:

Should mafia be allowed to both nightkill and use their action?

Creature · Post Post #58 (isolation #39) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:18 am

I guess I'd not allow allow one mafia member to nightkill and use their action the same night.

Creature · Post Post #60 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:42 am

So don't allow simultaneous nightkill and night action?

Also, if someone asks about it, should I say it's not allowed?

Creature · Post Post #62 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:54 am

like putting that mafia can't both kill and action in the rules (or even announcing the rule in the upcoming games thread)?

Creature · Post Post #64 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:02 pm

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Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or
vote: Someone
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You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.

P.S.: I won't edit your posts.

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If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1), I'll automatically search for your replacement. You can't return to your slot.
If you were to receive your third prod, you'll be force-replaced. You will be unable to return to your slot.
I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.

V/LAs and Replacing

V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile (https://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings) because I may miss them.
By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 72 hours rather than 48 hours.
If you absolutely can't post anything for over 72 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.

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Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM

Creature · Post Post #69 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:15 pm

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Don't discuss ongoing games.
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Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or
vote: Someone
. If it looks like a vote, it'll be counted.
You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.

P.S.: I won't edit your posts.

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If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1), I'll automatically search for your replacement. You can't return to your slot.
If you were to receive your third prod, you'll be force-replaced. You will be unable to return to your slot.
I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.

V/LAs and Replacing

V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile because I may miss them.
By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 72 hours rather than 48 hours.
If you absolutely can't post anything for over 72 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.

Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.

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Daytalk is active.
This game uses plurality lynch mechanism.
A single player can't both kill and take another action.

Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM

Creature · Post Post #70 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:16 pm

In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:
\You may target one player per night.
You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail.
You cannot target yourself.
This still ought to be reworded.

I thought about replacing the bolded with "Any action on that player won't succeed"

If not, do you have suggestions?

Creature · Post Post #71 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:18 pm

Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop

Creature · Post Post #73 (isolation #46) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:29 am

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

How it would be if flipped:

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

Creature · Post Post #75 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:22 pm

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Creature · Post Post #78 (isolation #48) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:04 pm

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Creature · Post Post #79 (isolation #49) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:05 pm

Also, does BTD6_Maker have access to this thread?

Creature · Post Post #82 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:06 am

Maybe I'll confirm with BTD6_Maker first if he's fine with the setup.

Creature · Post Post #85 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:42 pm

What about the 2 same-day prods being changed to immediatelly search replacement though don't force-replace?

Creature · Post Post #86 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:44 pm

Also, how could I word that the rolestopper will also stop mafia (including factional) actions?

Creature · Post Post #87 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:43 pm

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If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1) or three times the entire game, I'll automatically search for your replacement. You may return to your slot, however, any further prod is a force-replacement with no return (with the exception being in the next rule).
I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.

V/LAs and Replacing

V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile because I may miss them.
By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 96 hours rather than 48 hours.
If you absolutely can't post anything for over 96 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.

Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.

Creature · Post Post #89 (isolation #54) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:00 am

Okay, I'll see what the reviewers think.

Anything else?

Creature · Post Post #91 (isolation #55) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:19 am

Should I specify Rolestopper and Gunsmith can't kill and use their action the same night?

Creature · Post Post #92 (isolation #56) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:20 am

It's already specified in the rules, however, not in PMs.

Creature · Post Post #94 (isolation #57) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:56 am

Updating...

Also, it's rolestop, not roleblock.

In post 48, Creature wrote:
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Rolestopper
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Rolestopper
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may
not
commit the kill and investigate in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night. You will cause any action that targets this player to fail, including any other action performed by you or your teammates. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may
not
commit the kill and perform a rolestop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

In post 50, Creature wrote:How each role is flipped:

Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may
not
commit the kill and investigate in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night. You will cause any action that targets this player to fail, including any other action performed by you or your teammates. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may
not
commit the kill and perform a rolestop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Creature · Post Post #95 (isolation #58) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:28 am

Any comments?

Or just pass?

Creature · Post Post #97 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:56 am

Reviewers?

Creature · Post Post #99 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:06 am

Oh right, I guess I should use only one shade of color in PT or maybe not even use it.

Creature · Post Post #100 (isolation #61) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:07 am

What is better?

This

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This[/url]?

Creature · Post Post #101 (isolation #62) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:07 am

This

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This

Creature · Post Post #103 (isolation #63) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:24 am

Mafia PT:

Mafia Members

W, the

Mafia Gunsmith

X, the

Mafia Rolestopper

Y, the

Mafia Goon

Z, the

Mafia Goon

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

You may talk here anytime.

Spoiler: W's role PM

Spoiler: X's role PM

Spoiler: Y's role PM

Spoiler: Z's role PM

Neighborhood PT:

Neighborhood Members

W
X
Y
Z

You may talk here anytime.

Creature · Post Post #104 (isolation #64) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:25 am

Heh, I need to fix the role PMs because they're outdated.

Creature · Post Post #105 (isolation #65) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:25 am

Is this approved?

This can already go in signups.

Creature · Post Post #107 (isolation #66) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:55 am

20 players

Town One-Guilty Cop
Town 2-shot Vigilante
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante
Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Town Innocent Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town

Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Vanilla Town

Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop

Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante

Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor

Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor

Spoiler: Town Neighbor

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper

Notes:

Town One-Guilty Cop will only stop functioning if it gets a guilty result. Even if it targets scum, a "no result" result won't count.
Town 2-shot Vigilante won't be refunded shots if its action fails.
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante will die if it targets scum and isn't stopped. If rolestopped, it won't die. If target doctored, it will die.
Town Innocent Neighbor can't be roleblocked at all.
Mafia Gunsmith will get positive on Town One-Guilty Cop, Town 2-shot Vigilante, Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante and on anyone from the mafia team.
Mafia Rolestopper may rolestop their own factional kills. AKA Mafia Rolestopper + Mafia Factional Kill on the same target = Fail.

Creature · Post Post #108 (isolation #67) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:03 am

Rules:

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Follow the site rules here.
Play to win.
Be respectful.
Be active.
If you have questions about your role, ask them by PM.

Don't:

Don't discuss ongoing games.
Don't copy, quote or screenshot your role PM, mod communications or anything that isn't public.
Don't pretend to break the rules.
Don't use very small, invisible or encrypted text.
Don't write your posts almost entirely with shade of blue (
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Deadlines

Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.

Voting

All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or
vote: Someone
. If it looks like a vote, it'll be counted.
You may also vote nolynch.
A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.

P.S.: I won't edit your posts.

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Prods

If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1) or three times the entire game, I'll automatically search for your replacement. You may return to your slot, however, any further prod is a force-replacement with no return (with the exception being in the next rule).
I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.

V/LAs and Replacing

V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile because I may miss them.
By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 96 hours rather than 48 hours.
If you absolutely can't post anything for over 96 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.

Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.

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Daytalk is active.
This game uses plurality lynch mechanism.
A single player can't both kill and take another action.

Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM

Creature · Post Post #109 (isolation #68) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:06 am

Mafia PT:

Mafia Members

W, the

Mafia Gunsmith

X, the

Mafia Rolestopper

Y, the

Mafia Goon

Z, the

Mafia Goon

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

You may talk here anytime.

Spoiler: W's role PM

Spoiler: X's role PM

Spoiler: Y's role PM

Spoiler: Z's role PM

Neighborhood PT:

Neighborhood Members

W
X
Y
Z

You may talk here anytime.

Creature · Post Post #110 (isolation #69) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:06 am

Did I miss anything?

Creature · Post Post #114 (isolation #70) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:32 am

Signups time

Creature · Post Post #116 (isolation #71) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:53 am

I don't have none that I can publicly provide besides daytalk and pluralism mechanism. Are these worth announcing?

Creature · Post Post #118 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:06 am

This game uses Plurality Voting mechanism.

(sorta noticed it's plurality, and not pluralism, my bad)

Creature · Post Post #119 (isolation #73) » Mon May 15, 2017 10:06 am

Bump.

Creature · Post Post #120 (isolation #74) » Mon May 15, 2017 10:08 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=71847

That's the mod PT.

You may check here to see if I'm not doing anything wrong.