nancy's Mini Normal review

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh dear this gained a lot of prs since last time I looked at it T:

[RadiantCowbells]

What's teh setup with gunsmith removed?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't feel like it needs the commuter. maybe put an encryptor instead

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok then I would say just goon or if you're not willing to you could throw in something that's purely wifom like a 2-shot cop

[RadiantCowbells]

1-shot Roleblocker / Jailkeeper is a really really swingy interaction

[RadiantCowbells]

idk like I feel like right now the power is at a stage where no one would expect a roleblocker in the setup and a false clear there could just end it for town in a very dissatisfying way

[RadiantCowbells]

the second setup feels better to me personally

[RadiantCowbells]

but it might still be scumsided

[RadiantCowbells]

Well this comes down to you. Which version of the setup are you more interested in and I'll focus on reviewing that?

[RadiantCowbells]

2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Gunsmith
Town Vigilante
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

2-shot Mafia Doctor
Enabled Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Roleblocker Enabler

[RadiantCowbells]

If anything I'd remove the vig tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

Vig has SO much potential to fuck up town in this setup between the mason recruits which will be targeted at scummy people and the fact that they might not even kill scum they shoot

[RadiantCowbells]

Verified that bulletproof is a modifier so we're good to go on normalcy.

The setup as is is kinda scumsided now

[RadiantCowbells]

Ehh maybe not that weak neighbourizer packs one helluva punch

[RadiantCowbells]

Well meh.

I would not like it if there was no neopolitan because that'd be townsided.

This setup's ridiculously swingy. I don't know where it goes balance wise.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think weak neighbourizer is an inherently swingy role

[RadiantCowbells]

Well I don't want to discourage you from doing innovative stuff

[RadiantCowbells]

Weak Neighbourizer is technically normal

[RadiantCowbells]

Neighbour is a role, not a modifier, so unfortunately yes that is non-normal

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Uhh.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nope it's both. You're good.

[RadiantCowbells]

For the new page.


Town 2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Goon

Tbh this is fine. there's some niche really shitty cases but ehh

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm fine with that setup balance wise. VERY swingy but it's always going to be with that weak neighbourizer.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's a sketchy setup in a lot of ways but I also don't see how to do it better sorta

town is going to murder each other on setup spec

[RadiantCowbells]

just tell the players no setup speccing if they setup spec and you should be good to go

[RadiantCowbells]

WELL WHEN THEY START SETUP SPECCING U SAY NO SETUP SPEC AND SLAP THEM WITH UR MOD POWERS

[RadiantCowbells]

I was joking.

Uhh Mason Recruit isn't actually a thing. Don't worry it's fine I think?

[RadiantCowbells]

Hold on I'm busy tonight i'll be on later

[RadiantCowbells]

This will be today but not right this minue

[RadiantCowbells]

I see what Empking is saying about the amount of protectives potentially feeling bad for scum and I think that because of the setup if town gets really ahead they will stay ahead

but

I don't think that it's imbalanced. If you reduce the power of the JK/BG I'd want town to get some other power I think

[RadiantCowbells]

Honestly I'd rather leave it as is and just call it a game where scum have trouble making predictable kills and I would be happy with that.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm wondering about scum having two investigatives though but ehh

[RadiantCowbells]

It has the potential to go really badly for scum if they don't reevaluate the first time one of their kills fails

[RadiantCowbells]

Nahhh

What about giving scum a watcher instead of a neapolitan?

[RadiantCowbells]

That should make Empking happier because that's definitely a buff to scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not 10

[RadiantCowbells]

If the resolution for the same target being bodyguarded and jailkept is sorted out then I can pass it

[RadiantCowbells]

If others can confirm that is an acceptable normal resolution then I

pass

[RadiantCowbells]

I SEE A NANCY

[RadiantCowbells]

Uhh this isn't really my place to interject so I'll bail out.