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Alright, I can change the role up a bit. I kind of wanted to play with hated, but I understand it both ways. Instead, vampire would be granted a cop shot if the person dies, and the player targeted who doesn't die will turn into a weak vigilante the next day. If this is the case, I'd like either the werewolf Encryptor or MD to be turned into a werewolf doctor or 1 shot bp."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Alright, so I'm changing my flavor and setup. Hope that's alright. Just started from scratch and finished up another idea I was playing with."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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New Role Setup and Role PM's there. ^ Forgot to type that above the spoiler, sorry.
Leviathan Whisperer is a loud rolestopper variant."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I'd be willing to turn Mafia watcher into goon."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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is it the role itself or the noting of it? I can normalize the flavor away from the role more. and the message can just say something like..."You were targeted last night.""Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I just gave it a name due to calling something a Loud Rolestopper delayed paranoid gun owner variant. I should have taken out the flavor from the PM. I brought it out from a potential theme game I was going to make and copy pasted."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Every night, you may target a player. They will receive a message of "You were targeted last night." All other actions will be unable to affect this target for the night. If no actions are performed onto said target, the following nights, any action directed towards them will cause a kill to whoever targets the initial target. This effect is over when you target a new player or someone dies from this ability. You may not make the factional kill the same turn you use this ability."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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well, it's a variant role. i have more, though. I'd like to base a game around a chosen variant role, though."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I'll probably end up having to go multiball then, I guess."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Nah, I don't like themes too much. I'll figure it out. I get what you mean, though."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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When I get to a computer, I'll post some another setup."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Okay, let's stick with this one. This is the setup I'll work with. I feel the role (Town Symbiotic) fits normality more than the rest.
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In post 18, Boonskiies wrote:Okay, let's stick with this one. This is the setup I'll work with. I feel the role (Town Symbiotic) fits normality more than the rest.
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I'm fine to make it a 1 shot RB for scum, or change it to Vanilla Cop, as they would get a No Result if they targeted Symbiotic
I could give town a BP or JK as well, and/or make the 1-shot Weak cop into a 1 shot Loyal Cop. I think I would prefer Loyal over weak anyways."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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If I replace bodyguard with JK, and RB with Vanilla Cop, and turn the weak cop into a loyal cop. I'm not opposed to making the 1 shot loyal cop into odd night, either."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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6 VT
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Loyal Cop (either 1 shot or odd night)
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maf vanilla cop
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The bodyguard I could keep in there as well."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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bumpin'"Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Any investigative result would be treated as role blocked if it targets."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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More like if they were ascetic for investigative roles only, rather than roleblocked."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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It would be one grey listed, yeah."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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well, then let's work it out in a way where it could be? what can be changed about it to get it there."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I could change it to a Seraph Knight variant instead, which would somewhat bring my BG role back in itself, actually. That would take out the lovers entirely."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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"Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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This might even work better in my game anyways, and this is actually not too far off from a Seraph Knight in general, which in itself would be a grey listed role"Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I feel like it's the same concept as having a Gunsmith with mafia doctor/town vigilantes. The role doesn't change, it just adds that "did i get roleblocked or nah"
I don't think the role changes. It's an action. The player still has to target someone. I could make it so they have until the end of Day 1, to give less randomness from it. More similar to loyal modifier and getting a no result."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Like it's just a seraph knight that if it targets scum, investigative immune. The change to seraph knight has made it incredibly simple.
I see this as incredibly acceptable in normal games (much more than Desperado and whatnot?)
Am I allowed to speak of a role that's in a current game I am modding here considering none of you guys are in that game?"Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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it doesn't change at all, as technically, the seraph knight would save the mafia from being NK'd if there was a way for mafia to be NK'd this game.
An Investigative Immune Seraph Knight would be acceptable, I feel. So I don't get why a possible Investigative Immune Seraph Knight wouldn't be."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I also like giving Scum a little extra WIFOM, and with the vanilla cop potentially getting a No Result read from JK or investigating Symbiotic is like candy to me."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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This is what doesn't necessarily add up to me. Considering the Loyal modifier essentially has the same effect, but for itself, which is another reason I liked the addition of the Loyal modifier in the game.In post 39, mykonian wrote:I don't think people in a normal could expect a role to change depending on who they picked n0."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I really like the JK, Loyal Cop, Symbiotic combo actually, as it adds differing forms of No Result possibilities."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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ascetic is normal, though, and without the lover aspect of it all helps make it even closer to normal.
I do have my booneytoonz disclaimer there, and I do post this when my game goes into signups as well.
Am I not allowed to have the Virus part of it there, even if it's just mafia? I felt like that was just like calling it Blue Mafia, and whatnot. That's fine if I can't, just wondering."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Yeah, I think that the Symbiotic, Loyal Cop, and JK have a similar role that fits what I'm going for in this game."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I don't really see this role as crazy, though, is what I'm stating. I actually think this would be considered my least crazy setup once.
If the role was just seraph knight, I feel like it would go through, (as the variant role, of course) is what the argument essentially was. I feel this as a really subtle role that the setup would be perfect for and that is perfect for what that grey listed allowance could be.
I feel like the game revolves most around the Gunsmith, really."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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It's similar to like role stopper and loyal bodyguard, which are both normal roles now that Loyal is normal. I see it like:
X + Y = Z
X in this case would be Loyal, Y the target, and Z if no result is shown or not.
If we change it to Symbiotic instead of a Loyal role it becomes a matter of
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I feel like one of the biggest issues was my first two setups legit had a crazy role, so the third just seemed like it and immediately brought the idea of it being crazy to the forefront, but I feel we've worked with it enough to make it so it isn't a crazy role, and fits rather nicely in a normal game, as there really isn't some weird mechanic. It's pretty straight forward."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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(The lovers would have been a much bigger concept, but the new version of it incredibly flattened it down."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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what's crazy about it? What's not normal about it? Everything with in it is normal, I feel, or at least makes sense within the variant part of it. I definitely don't feel like it is there to spice it up. Maybe more of a sour than a spice, but I feel it comes from all normal mechanics similar to the way that the Loyal modifier works."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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I'm totally fine with the person targeting on N1. I don't know why I didn't bring that up earlier. That's generally how Seraph Knights work anyways if they aren't pre chosen in the setup anyways."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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and it allows for the random factor to be gone."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Oops, meant to have that in spoiler. Here's the new Town Symbiotic Role PM.
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Oh dang it. I copy pasted wrong. Haha. The correct one is in the role pm list, and I'll post it correctly in a seperate post in a second.
I think starting N1 it would take place, as that's when the kill protection aspect would work.
I can make the gunsmith even night. I can turn the goon into a 1-shot doc. It'll make them think they have a town killing role. I like the idea of having scum be able to get a no result from targeting Symbiotic if the symb targeted scum."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Oops. Didn't have the odd night in my description. Fixed it.
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Oo. Does this mean I'm good to go when/if Firebringer gives it the green light?"Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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Claiming color code as claiming the colors of what the role pm's are. Like he #080008 and what not.
Okay, I'll change the gunsmith to has a gun, does not have a gun.
And I'll make it unblockable."Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying." - Shinobi
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