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The critical parts of the setup are the willbooster, JK, weak RB, and mafia RB.
About the tracker claiming early, would it be amenable that I make it so that willbooster stops one roleblock?
Also I was worried about scum power coming in to this. I'll remove the Bullletproof and see how it looks.
@Regfan lynches will be majority, thanks for noting that.
For roleblocker resolution I'll resolve the weak roleblocker first, then the mafia roleblocker (this is so there isn't a false innocent with the weak roleblocker), then the jaikeeper.
I've noted a few issues with the Tracker: should that be removed as well?
About the tracker claiming early, would it be amenable that I make it so that willbooster stops one roleblock?
Also I was worried about scum power coming in to this. I'll remove the Bullletproof and see how it looks.
@Regfan lynches will be majority, thanks for noting that.
For roleblocker resolution I'll resolve the weak roleblocker first, then the mafia roleblocker (this is so there isn't a false innocent with the weak roleblocker), then the jaikeeper.
I've noted a few issues with the Tracker: should that be removed as well?
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Adding the note on deadlines and lynching and a possible NAR notation, as well as fixing some formatting in the playerlist post.
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New role list
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Be aware that your planning assumes the roles are public in game, when they will not be.
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Will fix the Tracker PM btw
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Correct.In post 24, RadiantCowbells wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong: willbooster doesn't prevent weak roleblocker from dying if they both visit the same, mafia-aligned target?
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I'll say no here. Is that something that should explicitly be stated in the rules?In post 22, Regfan wrote:Can the same player submit the night kill + roleblock while other mafia members are alive. Can they do it if they're the last alive?
How are you using this.
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Fixed to OP. It said the opposite because I'm also working on a mini theme and I wrote up the rules for it and that was one of the rules and I forgot I had that.
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I'll see if Regfan agrees that it's sketchy. If so I'll make it so it renders the target immune to any abilities that would roleblock it, therefore making it completely unaffected by jailkeeper.
And FYI Willbooster WILL flip it's PM.
And FYI Willbooster WILL flip it's PM.
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The jailkeeper is kinda integral to the setup though
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The setup is based around the multiple roleblocking roles
I could add a couple of ascetics and use a standard doctor
The setup is based around the multiple roleblocking roles
I could add a couple of ascetics and use a standard doctor
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I'll wait for RC's input before finalizing the change
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No input so I'll implement the change and see RC's thoughts after the fact.
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New role list
1 Town Willbooster
1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper
1 Town Weak Roleblocker
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Vigilante
9 Vanilla Townies
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1 Mafia Roleblocker
1 Mafia Neapolitan
2 Mafia Goons
1 Town Willbooster
1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper
1 Town Weak Roleblocker
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Vigilante
9 Vanilla Townies
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1 Mafia Roleblocker
1 Mafia Neapolitan
2 Mafia Goons
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1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper
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Thoughts?
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The Neapolitan would have to be nerfed if so because I'm not touching the RB
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Seems okay
With two saying nerf the neap I'll do that
With two saying nerf the neap I'll do that
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Oh btw inspectorscout has switched to Zaphkael so I'll be changing that in the OP
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New role list
1 Town Willbooster
1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper
1 Town Weak Roleblocker
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Vigilante
9 Vanilla Townies
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1 Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan
2 Mafia Goons
1 Town Willbooster
1 Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper
1 Town Weak Roleblocker
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Vigilante
9 Vanilla Townies
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1 Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan
2 Mafia Goons
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1 Mafia Odd Night Neapolitan
Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Odd Night Neapolitan. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
Sure I can do a full list of PMs too
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I'm back for now
I thought this got run without me
I'll ask Zaphkael if he's still good as a back-up
I thought this got run without me
I'll ask Zaphkael if he's still good as a back-up
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Wait
I forgot I can't access the sub forums on my phone
I can still work on this but actually modding this will have to wait
I forgot I can't access the sub forums on my phone
I can still work on this but actually modding this will have to wait
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Okay I should be able to do this now
will do the full role list and PMs
will do the full role list and PMs
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1 Town Weak RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Willbooster. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town Non Consecutive Night JailkeeperHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Weak Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town TrackerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player on nights not consecutive to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town VigilanteHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Tracker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
9 Vanilla TowniesHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Vigilante. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aVanilla Townie. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia Odd Night NeapolitanHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
2 Mafia GoonsHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Odd Night Neapolitan. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
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btw you'll put me back in the moderating queue once we get reviewers right? Or do I have to post the /in again?
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ok I did it
I figured being in the moderator queue on the first page would possible help drum up interest in my game
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Note: tracker will get no visit on a roleblocked PR
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Correct.In post 71, PenguinPower wrote:It's probably been address, but I haven't read through yet...how what happens if the Willbooster targets scum and the Weak Roleblocker targets same scum. WRB still dies, but scum is not blocked? From the wording of the PM, that's what I get.
So, the Willbooster is basically a Roleblocker-blocker, but they have to target the Roleblocker's intended target. Hrm.
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YesIn post 78, PenguinPower wrote:To confirm, as an example, if "the Vig" shoots player x but is roleblocked by the JK/Maf!RB/Town!WRB, player x is not killed; and, the Tracker get a "the Vig visited no one."In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:Note: tracker will get no visit on a roleblocked PR
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Yep, but probably removing the NAR point as that could be used to read into the setup
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Thinking on it now if the WRB visits mafia and is not roleblocked, or attempts to visit a mafia roleblocker blocking it, it dies, but if it attempts visit mafia and the jailkeeper targets it, or it attempts to target a mafia other than the roleblocker and the mafia roleblocker targets it, it lives. Of course the willbooster targeting the WRB means if it targets mafia it dies.
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Yes.In post 85, PenguinPower wrote:Confirming that you mean that WRB action supersedes MRB action. Also, if the Willbooster, JK, and MRB target WRB, then WRB would live.
Got it on the JK wording, will fix.
If so, then probably just change the JK PM to read "on non-consecutive nights" to match the flow of the others, and I'm good. What about it leaves you unclear, Reg?
Swing can still be balanced and normal (learned that from my modded game), so I'm good to pass given the above.
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1 Town Weak RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Willbooster. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town Non Consecutive Night JailkeeperHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Weak Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town TrackerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper. You have your voice and vote. You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town VigilanteHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Tracker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
9 Vanilla TowniesHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Vigilante. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aVanilla Townie. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia Odd Night NeapolitanHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
2 Mafia GoonsHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Odd Night Neapolitan. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
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Also updated the OP with the new reviewer. Left a mention to Ceph since he was involved.
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1 Town Weak RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Willbooster. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town Non Consecutive Night JailkeeperHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Weak Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town TrackerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper. You have your voice and vote. You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as roleblocking them, prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town VigilanteHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Tracker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
9 Vanilla TowniesHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Vigilante. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aVanilla Townie. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia Odd Night NeapolitanHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
2 Mafia GoonsHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Odd Night Neapolitan. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
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Figured it should be clear by what the role is but tbh I think it may have been needed
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All have passed fyi
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how 2 release this?
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