Newbie 1806 - The Ffery Garden: GAME OVER!

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What's up

Hi RC

VOTE: RC

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mhsmith looked really townie, idk why RC scumread them

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RC can we play the the game of sheep RC

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Also if your a PR you CC right now

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whymafia flips scum, period

wheme you can get lynched too

Also I'm not getting lynched I'm town

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wheme your vote on me was terrible you're not making endgame

My thought process was

RC scumread Mhsmith
Mhsmith looked townie
RC kills Mhsmith

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It was a good thought process imo

I thought you knew he was a PR so you were trying to scumread him

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Idk

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VOTE: Whymafia

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What I think miles is town

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Sorry for voting you I thought you were scum?

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One of these days I will get page top

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Hey guys can we start posting I don't like dead games

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Lol ok

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That's a bad vote btw

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Sure let's do it

VOTE: Wheme

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Oh no! No content! Must be scum!

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Hi!

I'm sorry that I shut down conversation. It wasn't my intention and I got really frustrated that I was getting wagoned when I thought that I was obvtown.

Can I get a readslist with reasons from eveyrone?

I don't know if I can make a reads list

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I kind of have no idea what's going on anymore but whatever here's my reads list.

RC: Confirmed town. Moving on.

Whale: Was towny yesterday; keeping up the same attitudes and activities now. Almost too towny really :p

Cankles: No data since yesterday, default to my previous townread. Reactions to wagon yesterday were town despair not scum despair.

Miles: I don't know if he has a scummy tone or a towny tone, but he sure has a Tone. I wish this wasn't his first game so I could know if he always talks like this. Analysis looks good but he kind of looks like he's showing off? Works out to slightly scummy I think. Really wish I had meta.

WM: RC's opinion counts for something. Tone looks increasingly bad to me but that's probably me being impressionable so I'll just fold it into RC. Other than that, no evidence really. Scummier than most other people I guess.

Wheme: Flippant votes, opportunism and no content. Not even doing that good a job trying to look busy. Trollish self vote. And like all of Ciara's very few semi-contentful posts were scummy too. Seriously, lynch this slot.

VOTE: WhemeStar That's L-1, at least until he takes off his stupid self-vote.

How am I opportunistic

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The only thing I can agree with PS vote on me is the no content thing.

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Since when is self voting opportunistic

Is self unvoting opportunistic?
UNVOTE:

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WM's partner would probably be Miles in this scenario, because if you look at ISO he kind of defends WM a lot.

I find in newbie games scum tend to try to avoid talking about their partner

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Also page top

Also IDK if anyone knows this, but recently I found out that highlighting the one piece you want to quote of a post and then clicking the quote button will quote only the highlighted section

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Off to work for 6 hours.

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WM's partner would probably be Miles in this scenario, because if you look at ISO he kind of defends WM a lot.

I find in newbie games scum tend to try to avoid talking about their partner

I suppose that makes sense psychologically; I haven't read enough games to know one way or another. Who would you think WM's partner would be instead?

Not sure yet need more posting to sort people

Also I voted WM to sheep RC hence "RC can I play the game where I sheep you"

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My reasoning for voting RC at the start of the day because I thought RC knew smith was tracker, that's why RC scumread smith at start of day and didnt mention him at end of the day

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My reasoning for voting RC at the start of the day because I thought RC knew smith was tracker, that's why RC scumread smith at start of day and didnt mention him at end of the day

But why did you think that RC knew that? What posts are you responding to?

This may sound rude but isn't meant to be but why does it matter?

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RC: Read Ciara/Wheme's ISO
Tell me with a straight face that it's towny

Persephone is obv town.
Gamesolved
Team is either Canckles/Miles (more unlikely) or Wheme/Miles/Cancklss
Way more convinced on wheme

Go read some games of mine please

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RC: Read Ciara/Wheme's ISO
Tell me with a straight face that it's towny

Persephone is obv town.
Gamesolved
Team is either Canckles/Miles (more unlikely) or Wheme/Miles/Cancklss
Way more convinced on wheme

Go read some games of mine please

I can even link you my first and only scum game which was painful

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=70834

My scumgame I replaced into

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If I remember correctly I played horribly and lurked hard that game then made excuses for my inactivity, I'm surprised I didn't get lynched that game

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RC: Read Ciara/Wheme's ISO
Tell me with a straight face that it's towny

Persephone is obv town.
Gamesolved
Team is either Canckles/Miles (more unlikely) or Wheme/Miles/Cancklss
Way more convinced on wheme

Go read some games of mine please

I can even link you my first and only scum game which was painful

Self meta is easily changeable, especially if you have

one

scum game
Invalid try again

Lmao

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this push on wheme is roflcakes

So do you think I'm town

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Why whalebarnicle

Also whalebarnicle is there a way to spoiler your posts or make more posts but not as big. I hate wall posts

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VOTE: Whymafia

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I'd ask for a reason but 506 was just so terrible that vote doesn't even need justification

This is why you are town

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Just hammer him

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I don't have a lot to say right now, because I'm kind of on a flowchart that is waiting for Wheme and Whale to post answers to questions they've been asked. People have been talking a lot but from my end it looks like rehashing the same arguments. Maybe I should analyse the tone more when have have some more time tonight, but I really hope there'll be new posts from Wheme and Whale by then. I'm inclined to vote WM if both of them give good answers, but I'm very much not in a hurry. We have over a week to gather more information after all.

What questions

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Whymafia, sing me a lullaby

Also:

We are not lynching Whemestar today. Foot down.

Why

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I'll lynch u tomorrow after I get ur buddy

Sounds good who is it tho

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PS go read any of my games I don't think I explain my reads in all of them

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Like I don't refuse to it but I tend to keep them to myself because I'm bad at explaining

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Whymafia, sing me a lullaby

Also:

We are not lynching Whemestar today. Foot down.

Your scum

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Hmm is Miles scum

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Someone said cases are scummy and I agree

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What is going on with this game?

Is it scummy to try ask RC put to words what he is doing here?
I said I grew to admire his play by reading games he was in, but I know realize playing with him feels rather terrifying..
Like someone has a gun with one bullet in it, and he is pointing it wildly around..!

What baffles me the most is how hard he pressured WhyMafia, and now seemingly is willing to relieve the pressure?
Also the way he just declares that Wheme isn't lynched today..WHY?

I'm leaning more towards Wheme being obv.scum, but I'm hesitant in putting my vote on him (in case he really is town, and scum quickhammers or RC flips out )
And for the same reasons I am now hesitant to put my vote on my first #1 candidate WhyMafia.
I can't even sheep our one conf.town because he is voting me!

I usually think sitting on your vote and not committing is scummy play, but currently I'm more afraid about the potential abuse that could happen if I vote.

Please, anyone, give me something to do! (bored at work)

RC thinks he knows who scum is but he wants to find scum partner because RC is super duper good so he's trying to act carelessly to make his target feel comfortable

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If you vote me RC is gonna flip out so be careful!

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I want at least one good post more from him before we end the day

Why

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Sorry RC VOTE: Una

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FFS FFERY I WAS SO CLOSE

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Sorry RC VOTE: Una

wtf

What

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Y r u voting una and y r u not voting why

Because his last page was scummy

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No!

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I disliked yesterday's lynch and it didn't flip town. Do you really want to try to push through another lynch I don't support?

You don't support a una lynch?

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whale if you scumread whymafia vote him please

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Voteee why mafiaaa

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VOTE: Whymafia

Finallyyyy

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so from one perspective this is sort of easy: I have 3 townreads and 2 null-scum reads.

Okay who

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So scum already know what happened tonight.
So I'm going to straight up ask RC, were you the target last night?

No need to dance around the question anymore.
Like I said the previous day, I now trust you, where do we go from here?

To mod: I'm at a caravan site until sunday morning (gmt +3), but if all goes well, I can participate with my phone.

Small chance I don't have Internet action at times, and I need to spend time with my godson.

what.

That can only mean one of three options:
1) RadCow is telling the truth about BP and was targeted last night. Scum must have not trusted that claim though because why the hell would they waste a night kill on him?
2) RadCow is actually doctor (He could have claimed BP knowing that there would be no CC since he is the doctor) to avoid him getting killed in the night and correctly saved who was targeted. If this is the case, who did you save RadCow? That person is now confirmed town.

I can't see scum just passing up the opportunity to at least try for a night kill. That just wouldn't benefit them at all, right? I don't think the possible confusion it could cause town would be worth the extra person they have for voting.

Feel like one of these came from scum

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Wheme you're on here, what say you about last night? Why shouldn't we all think its you, the person who so gleefully dropped the hammer with very little reason?

Didn't know dropping hammers is scummy

I thought he would flip scum, I was wrong

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Wheme, I want to lynch you right now.

Why's that

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So, Miles could be scum here.

I was thinking this when looking at VC's

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lol what am I doing

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I'm doing some things

Like I think Miles may be scum

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Yeah I didn't post my thoughts first because I wasn't sure

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Like from his posts I get a towny vibe but then at the same time I think he may be scum

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That post confuses me

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RC how confident are you that Persephone is town

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VOTE: Una

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Yeah I don't care who Una partner is I just want to lynch scum

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RC is dying tonight

If we miss scum today we prob lose

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Yeah I has

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In my head

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What are fighting

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Also RC read through king cankles ISO and vote Una with meh

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I don't think that town wins this one just on account of how much trouble I am having finding townreads.

It's okay your dead at night :/

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My only real scumread is Una

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Unvote please.

lol Una is scum

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Sigh

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I mean your not wrong if I'm scum I'm usually voting my partner

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Sigh

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GG thanks for modding Ffery

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Eh I didn't think Barnicle was scum and you had a townread on Pere and I didn't think we would get a Miles lynch

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Eh I didn't think Barnicle was scum and you had a townread on Pere and I didn't think we would get a Miles lynch

None of these are good reasons to be voting early and giving scum team a chance to quick hammer.

I felt like it was either me or Una getting lynched. And I thought eh if I get lynched we lose

RC probably would of voted me over Miles

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Why don't you say "hey Wheme Una not might be scum unvote and let me reread I haven't been feeling well this past week so give me some time "

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Like your saying I didn't give you a chance to play but it didn't even look like you were trying to play

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I don't wanna help you bus because bussing is my job.

This was the reason

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If I'm honest I forgot it was mylo